[Antennas] How to ask a question of the list.

David J. Ring, Jr. n1ea at arrl.net
Thu Jul 27 00:22:17 EDT 2006


Sam,

I gave you what I thought was a very good answer for your most recent
inquiry.  I think your posting to the group doesn't reflect what this group 
has done for you.

I gave you a web link for alternate sources of a cheaper dipole, however I
recommended extending your antenna to the full 36 inch height and then add
"spurs" or capacitive top loading which would greatly increase the
efficiency of your antenna.

What wasn't specific about my answer?

I do not believe that there is a more effective transmitting antenna for
your particular situation.  I also gave you information on a "phase noise 
nulling system" such as the one sold by MFJ (one is also sold by TimeWave 
but I didn't give you their name because their units are much more 
ineffective, but you could have searched).

This unit gets rid of noise no noise blanker of DSP can handle.  It phases 
out local noise.

Would additional information have helped?  Sure.

An antenna for 160 meters is much different than an antenna for 10 meters
due to "wavelengths above ground" factor.  A wavelength at 160 meters is
about 160 meters long :-)
So an antenna used on 160 meters has to be 480 feet high to be comparable to
a 10 meter antenna that is 30 feet high.

Thinking that the roof might be of metal, it would be of use to a vertical
as it would be perpendicular to the plane of maximum radiation and of harm
to a horizontal antenna as the metal would be in the plane of maximum
radiation.

I believe I gave you a specific, accurate and free information that I
learned and earned.

A "thank you" email - which I didn't receive personally, nor a group "thank
you" would have been appropriate.

Have you gotten any books and read them about "HF Antennas" for restricted
environments?  There are a few published - one of which I highly recommend
is "HF Antennas for All Locations" by recently deceased Les Moxon, G6XN.
Published by RSGB, Distributed in USA by ARRL and sold at many bookstores.
www.google.com shows many places it is sold.

When asking questions to an email list, you may not get an answer, you also
may get an incorrect answer, but to write a general message to the whole
mail list saying that you haven't gotten a specific answer, without even
communicating with those who have attempted to help you - something we are
not "required" to do but something that we give out of generosity and
charity.

I've also learned that when you offer help, and you don't even get a "thank
you", but rather get a message of blame, the most charitable thing is to let
that person learn without your experience in the matter.

I believe you owe the group in general your thanks for the help you've
received, and an appology to the group for mistating the truth of the
matter - in other words - people (at least one) responded to the best of
their ability to give you as good advice as they knew.  I know I did, and I
believe there were others beside myself.

73

David N1EA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Morgan" <ka5oai at cox.net>
To: "antennas - qth.net" <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: [Antennas] How to ask a question of the list.


I need some help with a general, overall question for the list. How do I
formulate a specific question to the list, in a way that I can receive,
specific
answers to the question I need answered?




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