Re(2): [Antennas] A floating Beverage?

Eugene Hertz ehertz at tcaf.org
Mon Oct 24 16:24:03 EDT 2005


sounds like an ideal ground plane! Fish out to the center and set up a vertical! 
Eugene

>-----Original Message-----
>From: DavidE Benedict [mailto:iam at pmug.org]
>Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 03:15 PM
>To: micah at 9250x.com
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>Subject: Re(2): [Antennas] A floating Beverage?
>
> 
>Water will attenuate RF quite a bit, it's better a lower frequencies, but 
>even 
>an inch or so will hose the signal. I'm not familiar with a beverage 
>antenna, 
>but I'd assume it's just near water, not under it. 
> 
> 
>On Monday 24 October 2005 12:47 pm, Lefczik, Larry D wrote: 
>> Just a wild idea- 
>> My property boarders on a small lake averaging 3-5 feet of fresh water. 
>> Sitting on the dock I look out over this vast openness and think there 
>> must be sum way to exploit it for radio antennas. I have thought about 
>> stretching a long wire to use as a Beverage type antenna, but I don't 
>> want to hang boaters or ice skaters. But, since the water is not salt 
>> water, hence, a dielectric, I got an idea of floating a wire just under 
>> the surface of the water by using floats every 3-4 feet. 
>> 
>> Am are way off base here? I have an idea how a Beverage works, but have 
>> not studied it in depth. 
>> 
> 
>No idea is a bad idea until it is proven to be bad. 
> 
>And thinking outside the box has led to some wonderful inventions. 
> 
>But, guys, isn't ground GROUND? Impure quite water conductive? 
> 
>Aren't E (RF) propagation waves caused mostly by voltage nodes...voltage 
>which would be very effectively shorted to ground by putting the hot wire 
>in the water (which with impurities is conductive)? And, where is the 
>other side of the coax or open-wire-line connected? ...ground, too? 
> 
>RF sometimes does the unexpected, but... ?? 
> 
>But, as a dreamer/inventor myself, I see your point in trying to meld all 
>that water with a better RF antenna or RF transmission. I hope you succeed 
>in a great invention! 
> 
>David B. 
>w7dbh 
>Oregon 
> 
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