[Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 12

Larry Fields n6hpx_du1 at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 21 15:12:35 EDT 2004


    I have no plans to divorce to XYL just because she didnt want that 
antenna as I found out a few things about the owner. Wont mention it here. 
But on the other shoe I was told her I could get a newer one at a later 
date. We needed the money at the time for my son's school enrollment.
    Plans to set up 2 beams in the future and one is the A3S and a 6 meter 5 
element type.

    Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1


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>    1. Raising hogs instead of antennas (Richard Barth)
>    2. RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11 (Larry Fields)
>    3. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (David Sher)
>    4. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (David Sher)
>    5. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Dan Arney)
>    6. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Don Havlicek)
>    7. RE: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Buck)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:59:42 -0400
>From: "Richard Barth" <Richard.Barth at noaa.gov>
>Subject: [Antennas] Raising hogs instead of antennas
>To: antennas at mailman.qth.net
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>Ed Griffin [mailto:egriffin at vnet.net]  wrote:
>
> >>B> Tell your neighbor that your choices for hobbies were either ham 
>radio
> >>or
> >>B> raising hogs..............  that should make the antenna look better.
>
>Actually, it's been done.  I forget the details, but there was an item in
>the news within the past few weeks about a fellow who wanted to re-zone
>his property from agricultural to commercial.  The neighbors objected.  He
>installed a hog pen on his front lawn.  Negotiations began.
>
>Haven't heard the results.  Has anyone else?
>
>73,  Dick, W3HWN
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:32:47 +0000
>From: "Larry Fields" <n6hpx_du1 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11
>To: antennas at mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <BAY10-F15tf3z2d7VcA0004b8e8 at hotmail.com>
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>    About a year ago one of my ham friends in Manila was selling out his
>whole antenna farm and radios to come back to the states. He had one 
>antenna
>I wanted, a cushcraft A3S. He wanted about 30000 peso's for the whole
>package. The peso was running 55 to 1 american.
>    I wanted it in the worst way as I had only run dipoles for 5 years now. 
>I
>   made one mistake and that was talking about it to my wife. Her first
>comment was the neighbors would complain about TVI. I lied an mentioned 
>that
>beams would never cause TVI. So next comment was it would damage the house
>from the strong winds in the area.
>    Seemed like I was on the losing end. I guess the dipoles will always be
>on the good side.
>
>    Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1
>    Manila Philippines
>
>
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> >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 04:00:40 -0400 (EDT)
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> >    1. RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Larry Fields)
> >    2. Coaxial Colinears (W0OXJ)
> >    3. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (fkamp at comcast.net)
> >    4. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Tom Bates)
> >    5. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Chris BONDE)
> >    6. On The Glass Antennas (Doug Weaver)
> >    7. Re: RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 (Mark - AA6DX)
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> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:25:49 +0000
> >From: "Larry Fields" <n6hpx_du1 at hotmail.com>
> >Subject: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
> >To: antennas at mailman.qth.net
> >Message-ID: <BAY10-F19uJwJJ1VZ9y00041147 at hotmail.com>
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> >
> >     I had a friend a few years back who kept buying antennas like the 
>old
> >Hygain 18avt and some Hustler HF ones but refused to put em up, only
> >because
> >he felt the neighbors might object to it. He finaaly settled on smaller
> >ones
> >like discones and vhf/uhf ones. I kept thinking maybe his wife was 
>talking
> >him out of it. Mine sometimes does the same but I still have 4 dipoles on
> >the roof.
> >
> >      Larry Fields, n6hpx/du1
> >
> >
> > >From: antennas-request at mailman.qth.net
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> > >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:33:51 -0400 (EDT)
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> > >Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. hiding antennas (Greenacres113 at aol.com)
> > >    2. Re: FS: Antenna Books (Fernando Quinones)
> > >    3. Thanks For All the Ideas (Jared)
> > >    4. Re[2]: [Antennas] Antenna (Elliott Olson)
> > >
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> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Message: 1
> > >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:31:25 EDT
> > >From: Greenacres113 at aol.com
> > >Subject: [Antennas] hiding antennas
> > >To: antennas at mailman.qth.net
> > >Message-ID: <159.3cd66ab8.2e54a61d at aol.com>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > >
> > >i have 4 of my towers painted camo. they blend into the  treed 
>background
> > >very well.
> > >
> > >k9il
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------
> > >
> > >Message: 2
> > >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:47:11 -0700
> > >From: Fernando Quinones <n2fq at sbcglobal.net>
> > >Subject: [Antennas] Re: FS: Antenna Books
> > >To: forsale-swap at mailman.qth.net, Antennas at mailman.qth.net
> > >Message-ID: <4123880F.9040909 at sbcglobal.net>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Fernando Quinones wrote:
> > >
> > > > 73 Vertical, Beam and Triangle Antennas by Ed Noll  Wire Antennas by
> > > > William Orr
> > > > Antenna Compendium Vol 1 by ARRL
> > > >
> > > > All $20.00  shipping is extra via USPS Priority Mail just because I
> > > > have one of their envolopes and
> > > >          these books fit nicely.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >73
> > >Fernando N2FQ/NNNØJYM
> > >San Jose, CA
> > ><http://pages.sbcglobal.net/n2fq>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------
> > >
> > >Message: 3
> > >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:48:02 -0500
> > >From: Jared <kc0rjc at arrl.net>
> > >Subject: [Antennas] Thanks For All the Ideas
> > >To: Antenna Reflector <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> > >Message-ID: <4123CE92.8080102 at arrl.net>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> > >
> > >I appreciate all the responses. I will definitely use some of the 
>ideas.
> > >
> > >73,
> > >
> > >Jared
> > >KC0RJC
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------
> > >
> > >Message: 4
> > >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:57:02 -0500
> > >From: Elliott Olson <n0ukf at wiktel.com>
> > >Subject: Re[2]: [Antennas] Antenna
> > >To: Antennas at mailman.qth.net
> > >Message-ID: <949068474.20040818165702 at wiktel.com>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > >Hello Antennas,
> > >
> > >Now there's an idea, get a junk antenna and make him think you aren't
> > >putting any antenna up yet. If he asks about the other antenna (in
> > >plain view leaning against the house), say you are missing parts for
> > >it.
> > >
> > >Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 2:03:03 AM, Buck wrote:
> > >
> > >B> If you could borrow a really big ugly tv or cb antenna like the 
>PDL-2s
> > >and
> > >B> show them then put the antenna you want up and nothing else, they 
>will
> > >B> eventually quit worrying about that pole that you never put the
> >antenna
> > >on.
> > >
> > >B> Buck
> > >
> > >B> -----Original Message-----
> > >B> From: Ed Griffin [mailto:egriffin at vnet.net]
> > >B> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:42 PM
> > >B> To: Antennas at mailman.qth.net
> > >B> Subject: [Antennas] Antenna
> > >
> > >B> Tell your neighbor that your choices for hobbies were either ham 
>radio
> > >or
> > >B> raising hogs..............  that should make the antenna look 
>better.
> > >
> > >B> 73
> > >B> Ed
> > >
> > >
> > > >>I am going to be putting up the following j-pole.
> > > >>http://www.rason.org/Projects/ant54/ant54.htm
> > > >>
> > > >>I have a neighbor dead set against my placement of such antenna. 
>They
> > > >>highest point of placement is the chimney 30ft up which faces his
> >house.
> > >I
> > > >>could use and would greatly appreciate any advice on camouflaging 
>the
> > >B> antenna.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Jared
> > > >>KC0RJC
> > > >>- - -
> > > >>Your moderator for this list is:
> > > >>Larry Wilson KE1HZ antennas-owner at mailman.qth.net
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Best regards,
> > >  Elliott   N0UKF                      mailto:n0ukf at wiktel.com
> > >www.qsl.net/n0ukf/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:57:32 -0600
> >From: "W0OXJ" <rfjones at ris.net>
> >Subject: [Antennas] Coaxial Colinears
> >To: <Antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> >Message-ID: <003301c48605$3e09bac0$911c7142 at robert>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >Does anyone have experience with installing these antennas in PVC 
>tubing?I
> >understand this will lower the design frequency and the sections of the
> >antenna will need to be shortened.I have heard 5 percent shorter and have
> >heard 19 percent shorter.
> >
> >Does anyone have definitive info on this subject?Has anyone actually
> >measured a commercial antenna and calculated the length of the half wave
> >sections relative to free space as well as installed space?
> >
> >Thanks for the info.
> >
> >73,
> >Bob
> >W0OXJ
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:06:51 -0500
> >From: fkamp at comcast.net
> >Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
> >To: Larry Fields <n6hpx_du1 at hotmail.com>
> >Cc: antennas at mailman.qth.net
> >Message-ID: <4124DE2B.D41BFDC8 at comcast.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> >
> >Larry Fields wrote:
> > >
> > >     I had a friend a few years back who kept buying antennas like the
> >old
> > > Hygain 18avt and some Hustler HF ones but refused to put em up, only
> >because
> > > he felt the neighbors might object to it. He finaaly settled on 
>smaller
> >ones
> > > like discones and vhf/uhf ones. I kept thinking maybe his wife was
> >talking
> > > him out of it. Mine sometimes does the same but I still have 4 dipoles
> >on
> > > the roof.
> > >
> >
> >This is an interesting topic.
> >
> >What do you do about neighbors who mighnt not approve of a boudacious
> >antenna installation?
> >
> >Well, first off, you dont tell them about your intentions.
> >
> >A proven fact is that is much easier to ask forgivness than permission.
> >
> >Dont ask for permission.  Do it.  If that generates complaints, deal
> >with them.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Frank Kamp
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:47:59 -0400
> >From: "Tom Bates" <tlbates at lr.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
> >To: <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> >Message-ID: <001401c4861d$0dba4020$1902a8c0 at weenieroom>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > >>A proven fact is that is much easier to ask forgivness than 
>permission.
> > >>Dont ask for permission.  Do it.  If that generates complaints, deal
> > >>with them.
> >
> >
> >How true.  My method is to put antennas up in bad wx or at night.  
>Firstly,
> >because they always seem to work better, and secondly ( when the XYL
> >finally
> >notices them) I can say with a straight face  " Oh, that antenna ???  
>It's
> >been
> >up there for a while" .    She's forgiven me many times over the years, 
>and
> >never made me take one down I wasn't ready to do away with.
> >
> >I really liked the choice of radio vs hog raising idea, and will bank 
>that
> >one
> >for future needs.
> >
> >73,   Tom   AA1NZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 5
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:13:45 -0700
> >From: "Chris BONDE" <ve7hcb at rac.ca>
> >Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
> >To: fkamp at comcast.net, antennas at mailman.qth.net
> >Message-ID: <4124B599.30282.11A47BD at localhost>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >I put up an antenna after I have been working on it for about a month.
> >That is I
> >leave it up.
> >
> >The month routine is put up the masts, take down the masts, put up masts
> >and wire
> >etc,  Take all down.  Put all up with feedline but do not connect the
> >feedline.  Leave
> >for awhile.
> >
> >If any complaints just say,  "I wonder how bad the interference will be
> >when I
> >connect it up to may radio?"  "Would you please log the date time and
> >frequency
> >you received the interference on so that I can work towards correcting 
>it."
> >
> >Never had any complaints after that.   Neighbours TV dishes are just as 
>bad
> >for
> >sight.
> >
> >Chris opr VE7HCB
> >
> >
> >
> >Larry Fields wrote:
> > >
> > >     I had a friend a few years back who kept buying antennas like
> > >     the old
> > > Hygain 18avt and some Hustler HF ones but refused to put em up, only
> > > because he felt the neighbors might object to it. He finaaly settled
> > > on smaller ones like discones and vhf/uhf ones. I kept thinking
> > > maybe his wife was talking him out of it. Mine sometimes does the
> > > same but I still have 4 dipoles on the roof.
> > >
> >
> >This is an interesting topic.
> >
> >What do you do about neighbors who mighnt not approve of a boudacious
> >antenna installation?
> >
> >Well, first off, you dont tell them about your intentions.
> >
> >A proven fact is that is much easier to ask forgivness than
> >permission.
> >
> >Dont ask for permission.  Do it.  If that generates complaints, deal
> >with them.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Frank Kamp
> >- - -
> >
> >Your moderator for this list is:
> >Larry Wilson KE1HZ antennas-owner at mailman.qth.net
> >_______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 6
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:45:48 -0400
> >From: "Doug Weaver" <dweaver at dtnspeed.net>
> >Subject: [Antennas] On The Glass Antennas
> >To: <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> >Message-ID: <008301c4863e$459fa040$8235010a at DTNSPEED.NET>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >Is any one out there using a on the glass antenna on the side window of a
> >2002 Ford Explorer?  While looking through HRO catalog I found a 2M/440
> >glass mounted antenna made by ATOC Technologies. In the product 
>description
> >it states (Note: Some newer automobiles are equipped with "passavated
> >glass"
> >which does not permit on-glass antennas to work properly)  The owners
> >manual
> >says nothing and a 20 minute phone call to Ford also comes up with 
>nothing.
> >I also tried an e-mail to the antenna manufacturer and got no response.
> >This is the first time I've heard of this issue.
> >
> >Doug....KD8KX
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 7
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:49:47 -0700
> >From: "Mark - AA6DX" <aa6dx at pacbell.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
> >To: "Tom Bates" <tlbates at lr.net>, <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> >Message-ID: <003101c4863e$e90e7670$7562ce3f at main>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >	reply-type=original
> >
> >HOGS VS AERIALS ...
> >Funny ... 1980S, in the midst of purchasing a country home outside of Red
> >Bluff, CA, went over the subdivision covenants, the only one really was
> >that
> >you could NOT raise hogs there!  Really!   There was a large pork farm
> >nearby, and I guess the folks who set up the paperwork had had it with
> >pigs!
> >Nothing about aerials, though!
> >73, Mark  AA6DX
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:46:33 -0500
>From: David Sher <davew9lya at juno.com>
>Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>To: tlbates at lr.net
>Cc: antennas at mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <20040820.213955.-131051.14.davew9lya at juno.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Also, ask your wife if she prefers a husband who forgets to put tje
>toilet seat down, or one who forgets to put the toilet seat UP!
>
>Dave             W9LYA
>What wrought doG hath?
>
>On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:47:59 -0400 "Tom Bates" <tlbates at lr.net> writes:
> > >>A proven fact is that is much easier to ask forgivness than
> > permission.
> > >>Dont ask for permission.  Do it.  If that generates complaints,
> > deal
> > >>with them.
> >
> >
> > How true.  My method is to put antennas up in bad wx or at night.
> > Firstly,
> > because they always seem to work better, and secondly ( when the XYL
> > finally
> > notices them) I can say with a straight face  " Oh, that antenna ???
> >  It's been
> > up there for a while" .    She's forgiven me many times over the
> > years, and
> > never made me take one down I wasn't ready to do away with.
> >
> > I really liked the choice of radio vs hog raising idea, and will
> > bank that one
> > for future needs.
> >
> > 73,   Tom   AA1NZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - - -
> >
> > Your moderator for this list is:
> > Larry Wilson KE1HZ antennas-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > Antennas mailing list
> > Antennas at mailman.qth.net
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> >
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:44:05 -0500
>From: David Sher <davew9lya at juno.com>
>Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>To: fkamp at comcast.net
>Cc: n6hpx_du1 at hotmail.com, antennas at mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <20040820.213955.-131051.13.davew9lya at juno.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Just a reminder - (1) the FCC has decreed that nobody can be prevented
>from putting up an antenna for TV reception and (2) SSTV is available on
>HF bands, 20M, 15M, 10M, etc.
>
>Dave             W9LYA
>What wrought doG hath?
>
>On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:06:51 -0500 fkamp at comcast.net writes:
> >
> >
> > Larry Fields wrote:
> > >
> > >     I had a friend a few years back who kept buying antennas like
> > the old
> > > Hygain 18avt and some Hustler HF ones but refused to put em up,
> > only because
> > > he felt the neighbors might object to it. He finaaly settled on
> > smaller ones
> > > like discones and vhf/uhf ones. I kept thinking maybe his wife was
> > talking
> > > him out of it. Mine sometimes does the same but I still have 4
> > dipoles on
> > > the roof.
> > >
> >
> > This is an interesting topic.
> >
> > What do you do about neighbors who mighnt not approve of a
> > boudacious
> > antenna installation?
> >
> > Well, first off, you dont tell them about your intentions.
> >
> > A proven fact is that is much easier to ask forgivness than
> > permission.
> >
> > Dont ask for permission.  Do it.  If that generates complaints,
> > deal
> > with them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Frank Kamp
> > - - -
> >
> > Your moderator for this list is:
> > Larry Wilson KE1HZ antennas-owner at mailman.qth.net
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>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:55:46 -0700
>From: Dan Arney <hankarn at pacbell.net>
>Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>To: David Sher <davew9lya at juno.com>
>Cc: tlbates at lr.net, antennas at mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <4126B9B2.9060609 at pacbell.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>It boils  down to who has the GONADS and really wears the the pants.
>PUT Up OR SHUT UP.
>Who pays the bills???
>Hank
>KN6DI
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:00:38 -0500
>From: Don Havlicek <n8de at thepoint.net>
>Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>To: Dan Arney <hankarn at pacbell.net>
>Cc: tlbates at lr.net, David Sher <davew9lya at juno.com>,
>	antennas at mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <4126C8E6.4000507 at thepoint.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>A friend of mine, who will remain nameless/callless, was told by his
>wife to choose .. "it's those radios or me!" .... My friend answered,
>"I'll help you pack!"
>Don
>N8DE
>
>Dan Arney wrote:
> > It boils  down to who has the GONADS and really wears the the pants.
> > PUT Up OR SHUT UP.
> > Who pays the bills???
> > Hank
> > KN6DI
> >
> > - - -
> > Your moderator for this list is:
> > Larry Wilson KE1HZ antennas-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:22:03 -0400
>From: "Buck" <na4fm-list at towncorp.net>
>Subject: RE: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>To: <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <20040821042712.264128582AF at mailman.qth.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
>Don't laugh, when I proposed to my wife, I told her "I was a ham years
>before I you her and I will be a long after you're gone.  If there has to 
>be
>a choice, make it now!"  And that's the truth.
>
>She never had anything to say about my hobby that was unreasonable.
>
>Buck
>N4PGW
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Havlicek [mailto:n8de at thepoint.net]
>Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:01 AM
>To: Dan Arney
>Cc: tlbates at lr.net; David Sher; antennas at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>
>A friend of mine, who will remain nameless/callless, was told by his
>wife to choose .. "it's those radios or me!" .... My friend answered,
>"I'll help you pack!"
>Don
>N8DE
>
>Dan Arney wrote:
> > It boils  down to who has the GONADS and really wears the the pants.
> > PUT Up OR SHUT UP.
> > Who pays the bills???
> > Hank
> > KN6DI
>
>
>
>
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>End of Antennas Digest, Vol 7, Issue 12
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