True...all very true Ed....well put! Chris WB5ITT Advanced Class since 1974 (ONE day I MAY get my Extra! :) Ed wrote: > > I have a BandW up about 50 ft.in an inverted vee. I have worked the world over, listened to shortwave broadcast, utility stations, pirates and checked into many a net on 75 and 40 meters. I have even made a few contacts on 160 with it. I love it for it's <SNIP>