de WB2CPN South Central Pennsylvania 2002.07.10 Perhaps someone has a plot of discone patterns at 2-mtr and 70-cm freqs. Or perhaps someone has a way to model them. I'm wondering if they flatten the pattern any, or tilt it down any. I use a Radio Shack discone, and a Diamond discone, and I still don't have any performance data except my Ringo Ranger works better on 2-mtr. 73 Clete