de WB2CPN South Central Pensylvania 2002.08.13 I used a 180 foot center fed with 25 feet of ladder line. Used an ICOM AH-2 for the tuner, 65 feet of coax to the shack. Worked well on 160 also. Not much good on 10 though. Primary use was USAF MARS on 2.5, 3.3, 4.5, 7.3 and 13 MKz. 73 Clete