[Antennas] no radial vertical antennas

Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:26:32 -0700

Ron, I think that your comment  is the gist of the thread!
Although amateurs often use the term 'vertical' somewhat loosely, it 
usually refers to a single radiating element placed vertically over the 
ground.  A vertical is usually 1/4 wl long electrically ...
However, the strict definition, IMHO, is the orientation of the E vector to 
the ground.  In space there is no vertical or horizontal antenna.  As we 
advance in out own knowledge as well as the science, some of the terms that 
are used have to be used concisely or defined.  To me a vertical is the way 
the E vector is oriented, (watch for eliptiall or circular antennas).

Chris opr VE7HCB

At 07:31 PM 2002-04-16 -0400, Ron W7MRR wrote:
>  Danny:
>
>    You need to distinguish between a vertical antenna and an antenna that 
> is vertically orientied.  In the case of a dipole that is vertically 
> oriented, one side to the dipole is the vertical radiator and the other 
> could be considered a single counterpoise or radial.
>
>Ron W7MRR
>
>
>--- On Mon 04/15, Dan Richardson  wrote:
> > Are you saying that a vertical dipole will not work *correctly* without a
> > counterpoise?
> >
> > Not all vertical antennas are a monopole.
> >
> >
> > Danny, K6MHE
> >
> > At 04:29 PM 4/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > >No VERTICAL ANTENNA WILL WORK CORRECTLY WITH OUT A COUNTERPOISE
> > normally
> > >that means radials but, a grid screen or metal surface will work as a
> > >counterpoise
> > >
> > >Randy
> > >AC7NJ
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