[AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 245, Issue 6
Douglas Rowlett
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> 1. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (VZW engr)
> 2. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (Jim Wilhite)
> 3. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (Rob Atkinson)
> 4. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (VZW engr)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 10:55:33 -0700
> From: VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com>
> To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as the
> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4. Not really. :-)
>
> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas. I live on 20 acres and the
> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
> noise", both of which help, even if only a little. I'll have to listen on
> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
>
> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
> cabinet. Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
> mouse intrusion. I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical stuff
> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse. :-) However, this
> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
> it's below freezing for most of the day. After that, a careful inspection
> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
> chew on stuff.
>
> Eric
> WB6TIX
>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it. With that transmitter
>> you have the power and audio. You'll need to get a decent antenna
>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>> system. You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>> receiving setup is. Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>> doesn't work too well. 160 is typically a fall and winter band. A
>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>> masochists.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>>
>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>> It
>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> WB6TIX
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:13:47 -0600
> From: Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com>
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> Eric,
>
> Be very careful with the? mouse leavings.? In that country they can
> carry hantavirus which is a real booger.? Wear a dust mask and medical
> gloves when working with that transmitter and be careful cleaning out
> the rest.? ?Once clean and disinfected, you will be ok.
>
> There is/was some activity around here OK, TX on 1.885 in the winter.?
> Until my wife became so ill, I operated with the stations that were
> regular at 9 PM.? W5KO, WB5HAK and KG5CW.? I have not been on with them
> in quite a while so am unsure of their activity.? It has been a very
> long time since I have heard much activity from AZ, NM and Southern
> Cal.? Most of the patrons have passed or moved, but there is always the
> possibility of you getting a bunch going.
>
> Two things are required for successful operation on 160.? A very good
> antenna and high power.? As Rob said, put up a good vertical over a good
> ground field.? Here I have very good ground conductivity so I use an
> inverted L.? 50 ft. of which is vertical and another 125 ft.
> horizontal.? My tower and mast for the beam is 70 ft. and I shunt fed it
> till I decided to put a TV antenna on it to get the distant larger city
> stations.? Under it I have about 12 radials of varying length and have
> been fairly successful.
>
> I can hear a bunch out in the NE of the USA but many have low dipoles or
> poor antenna systems, so I cannot work them unless I have a beverage,
> which I had till we moved.? Don, K4KYV can, probably be heard if he is
> on, however he has not been as active as he was a few years ago.? If you
> do SSB, there is a weekly net on Tuesday night on 1.960 run by Matt
> KD0OS at 8 PM Mountain Time.? Matt runs it SSB and stations from MO, TX,
> OK, KS, NM, CO, SD and occasionally S. CA check in.? If You can check
> in, it would be a good place to stir up some activity.
> There are several AM capable stations who check in there, Arne/K0AS in
> Spearfish, SD among them.? Give it a try.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim,
> W5JO
> Southern OK
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2025 11:55 AM, VZW engr wrote:
>> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as the
>> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4. Not really. :-)
>>
>> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas. I live on 20 acres and the
>> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
>> noise", both of which help, even if only a little. I'll have to listen on
>> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
>>
>> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
>> cabinet. Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
>> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
>> mouse intrusion. I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical stuff
>> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
>> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse. :-) However, this
>> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
>> it's below freezing for most of the day. After that, a careful inspection
>> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
>> chew on stuff.
>>
>> Eric
>> WB6TIX
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it. With that transmitter
>>> you have the power and audio. You'll need to get a decent antenna
>>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>>> system. You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>>> receiving setup is. Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>>> doesn't work too well. 160 is typically a fall and winter band. A
>>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>>> masochists.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Rob
>>> K5UJ
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>>>
>>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>>> It
>>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>> WB6TIX
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:07:25 -0600
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com>
> Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> I recall some fellows out in 0 land operating on 1985 in a military
> net on Tuesday evenings? Western MO, OK and maybe TX. One or two
> strapping but others not all good copy here. A number of hams seem to
> think that if a dipole at 40 feet works okay on 40 m., one at that
> height will work on 160. Not true, unless you truly only want to work
> stations not far away. But they will hear me calling CQ, call me, I
> can't hear them, and I get flack for that. They have a great rx
> antenna but not so good for transmit. As I have said before, with the
> high cost of copper now, I don't expect folks to invest in an
> extensive ground system but the vertical has to have something besides
> a ground rod.
>
> 73
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:01:42 -0700
> From: VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com>
> To: Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com>
> Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> It was probably a bit overboard......N100 respirator (because that's what I
> had), rubber gloves, goggles, scrub cap and a Tyvek apron, plus a spray
> bottle of dilute bleach solution.
>
> A lot of time and money was spent teaching me how to work in areas where
> it's "shields up" and I figured it was a bad idea to ignore it all just
> because I was at home. :-)
>
> Eric
> WB6TIX
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 2:14?PM Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Be very careful with the mouse leavings. In that country they can
>> carry hantavirus which is a real booger. Wear a dust mask and medical
>> gloves when working with that transmitter and be careful cleaning out
>> the rest. Once clean and disinfected, you will be ok.
>>
>> There is/was some activity around here OK, TX on 1.885 in the winter.
>> Until my wife became so ill, I operated with the stations that were
>> regular at 9 PM. W5KO, WB5HAK and KG5CW. I have not been on with them
>> in quite a while so am unsure of their activity. It has been a very
>> long time since I have heard much activity from AZ, NM and Southern
>> Cal. Most of the patrons have passed or moved, but there is always the
>> possibility of you getting a bunch going.
>>
>> Two things are required for successful operation on 160. A very good
>> antenna and high power. As Rob said, put up a good vertical over a good
>> ground field. Here I have very good ground conductivity so I use an
>> inverted L. 50 ft. of which is vertical and another 125 ft.
>> horizontal. My tower and mast for the beam is 70 ft. and I shunt fed it
>> till I decided to put a TV antenna on it to get the distant larger city
>> stations. Under it I have about 12 radials of varying length and have
>> been fairly successful.
>>
>> I can hear a bunch out in the NE of the USA but many have low dipoles or
>> poor antenna systems, so I cannot work them unless I have a beverage,
>> which I had till we moved. Don, K4KYV can, probably be heard if he is
>> on, however he has not been as active as he was a few years ago. If you
>> do SSB, there is a weekly net on Tuesday night on 1.960 run by Matt
>> KD0OS at 8 PM Mountain Time. Matt runs it SSB and stations from MO, TX,
>> OK, KS, NM, CO, SD and occasionally S. CA check in. If You can check
>> in, it would be a good place to stir up some activity.
>> There are several AM capable stations who check in there, Arne/K0AS in
>> Spearfish, SD among them. Give it a try.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jim,
>> W5JO
>> Southern OK
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2025 11:55 AM, VZW engr wrote:
>>> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as
>> the
>>> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4. Not really. :-)
>>>
>>> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas. I live on 20 acres and the
>>> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
>>> noise", both of which help, even if only a little. I'll have to listen
>> on
>>> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
>>>
>>> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
>>> cabinet. Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
>>> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
>>> mouse intrusion. I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical
>> stuff
>>> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
>>> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse. :-) However,
>> this
>>> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
>>> it's below freezing for most of the day. After that, a careful
>> inspection
>>> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
>>> chew on stuff.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> WB6TIX
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>>>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it. With that transmitter
>>>> you have the power and audio. You'll need to get a decent antenna
>>>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>>>> system. You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>>>> receiving setup is. Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>>>> doesn't work too well. 160 is typically a fall and winter band. A
>>>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>>>> masochists.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>> K5UJ
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>>>>
>>>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>>>> It
>>>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> WB6TIX
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