From mharmon at att.net  Mon Dec  8 18:48:43 2025
From: mharmon at att.net (Michael D. Harmon)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 17:48:43 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Interesting Article
References: <81e40d58-14e4-4b59-a565-1d0c93ce9a52.ref@att.net>
Message-ID: <81e40d58-14e4-4b59-a565-1d0c93ce9a52@att.net>

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/articles/divers-found-lost-shipwreck-remarkably-190000783.html


From Foltarz at rocketmail.com  Mon Dec  8 20:34:30 2025
From: Foltarz at rocketmail.com (Mark Foltarz)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 01:34:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
In-Reply-To: <AABWMNAUNABQUPMS@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABWMNAUNABQUPMS@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <40282262.815139.1765244070134@mail.yahoo.com>

 Does anyone? know whose is an Admin for amfone.net?
The site has been down too long. There is such a wealth of information in the site it would be a terrible loss.
tnx
de WA4AMMark

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From manualman at juno.com  Mon Dec  8 21:01:08 2025
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 21:01:08 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
Message-ID: <AABWVRA4CAN2XD22@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>

Generally, if you wait till after 10PM EST, the site will be up and
running. Sometimes it even works during the morning hours. 
On the Home page, click on STAFF LIST.

If in a hurry, you can use Internet Archive:
http://web.archive.org/web/20240614051148/https://amfone.net/Amforum/inde
x.php?action=staff
The URL will probably wrap to a second line. Copy the entire URL and put
it in your browser.

Pete, wa2cwa



On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 01:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Foltarz via AMRadio
<amradio at mailman.qth.net> writes:
>  Does anyone  know whose is an Admin for amfone.net?
> The site has been down too long. There is such a wealth of 
> information in the site it would be a terrible loss.
> tnx
> de WA4AMMark


From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec  8 21:55:20 2025
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 20:55:20 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
In-Reply-To: <AABWVRA4CAN2XD22@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABWVRA4CAN2XD22@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <D51BBFDE-7771-408A-B47C-F117330E338A@sbcglobal.net>

Try https://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php

73,

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Dec 8, 2025, at 20:03, manualman at juno.com wrote:
> 
> ?Generally, if you wait till after 10PM EST, the site will be up and
> running. Sometimes it even works during the morning hours.
> On the Home page, click on STAFF LIST.
> 
> If in a hurry, you can use Internet Archive:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20240614051148/https://amfone.net/Amforum/inde
> x.php?action=staff
> The URL will probably wrap to a second line. Copy the entire URL and put
> it in your browser.
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 01:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Foltarz via AMRadio
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net> writes:
>> Does anyone  know whose is an Admin for amfone.net?
>> The site has been down too long. There is such a wealth of
>> information in the site it would be a terrible loss.
>> tnx
>> de WA4AMMark
> 
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From jcandela at prodigy.net  Wed Dec 10 09:11:57 2025
From: jcandela at prodigy.net (Jim Candela)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 14:11:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
In-Reply-To: <D51BBFDE-7771-408A-B47C-F117330E338A@sbcglobal.net>
References: <AABWVRA4CAN2XD22@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
	<D51BBFDE-7771-408A-B47C-F117330E338A@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1715277310.4720875.1765375917578@mail.yahoo.com>

 
I have tried to enter the site about 6 times over the last few days, Nada..500 error

I fear that whatever the issue is, a data purge might be necessary to update, and fix the site. Without the 20+ years of data, the site would never recover. Activity today on AM message boards is elsewhere. 
A reflection as to why the big posters moved away is only partially due to aging members, and silent key syndrome. 
I remember a time when I uploaded an image from a 1930's R9 magazine, and I was warned about copyright laws...Admin said, a descendant of the author might be triggered, and sue. Never a mention about copyrights that all expire, if they were ever copyrighted in the first place. I once contacted the ARRL about the copyright issue regarding posting QST articles from the 1950's, and they would not answer my question. Therefore some board admins enforce the copyright issue, even going back to R9 magazine in the 1930's, much like an HOA Karen.

Jim
Wd5JKO

     On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 08:56:08 PM CST, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:  
 
 Try https://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php

73,

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Dec 8, 2025, at 20:03, manualman at juno.com wrote:
> 
> ?Generally, if you wait till after 10PM EST, the site will be up and
> running. Sometimes it even works during the morning hours.
> On the Home page, click on STAFF LIST.
> 
> If in a hurry, you can use Internet Archive:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20240614051148/https://amfone.net/Amforum/inde
> x.php?action=staff
> The URL will probably wrap to a second line. Copy the entire URL and put
> it in your browser.
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 01:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Foltarz via AMRadio
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net> writes:
>> Does anyone? know whose is an Admin for amfone.net?
>> The site has been down too long. There is such a wealth of
>> information in the site it would be a terrible loss.
>> tnx
>> de WA4AMMark
> 
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From w3slk at verizon.net  Wed Dec 10 09:46:29 2025
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 09:46:29 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
In-Reply-To: <1715277310.4720875.1765375917578@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <AABWVRA4CAN2XD22@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>	<D51BBFDE-7771-408A-B47C-F117330E338A@sbcglobal.net>
	<1715277310.4720875.1765375917578@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901dc69e3$c598f260$50cad720$@verizon.net>

Jim, (et al),
	I am not a lawyer and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I was always under the impression that so long as you didn't use an image, passage, paragraph etc, for monetary or promotional gain and it was in the public domain it didn't fall under copyright laws. But who am I to know, maybe Pete, WA2CWA can speak more to that since he deals with it as a matter of course. 
	Now your last sentence touches on the 900lbs gorilla in the room or the website if you will. Many AMers, myself included felt that the board was being over moderate and left for more 'friendlier' spaces. I returned from self-imposed exile but only to check up on some others who felt their 'rigs' were cast in concrete and remained and as stated, the board is a plethora of technical information. I remember being on the old AM Window before it being merged into what is now AMfone.net. 
	Many former posters went to either QRZ.com or started their own websites dedicated to the mode, and some of those evaporated into the aether, never to be heard from again. I could only wish that some, (NOT ALL) of the moderators could moderate themselves. I could espouse on some of that activity but I want to maintain a positive outcome not a negative one. 
	We are in an era of great change with regards to the mode. We all have our reasons for using it and with many SW stations going the way of the wild goose, areas in the HF arena are becoming more open. There are stalwarts like myself who 'won't give up my 807 until they pry it from my dead hands' and there are others pushing the arena of MOSFETS all to new levels. I think there is room for all of us. But it all has a beginning and we need to preserve our origins and our technical data. 
	Sorry for the old buzzard transmission!

Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)/W3SLK


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Candela
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2025 9:12 AM
To: manualman at juno.com; Kim Elmore
Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMFone

 
I have tried to enter the site about 6 times over the last few days, Nada..500 error

I fear that whatever the issue is, a data purge might be necessary to update, and fix the site. Without the 20+ years of data, the site would never recover. Activity today on AM message boards is elsewhere. 
A reflection as to why the big posters moved away is only partially due to aging members, and silent key syndrome. 
I remember a time when I uploaded an image from a 1930's R9 magazine, and I was warned about copyright laws...Admin said, a descendant of the author might be triggered, and sue. Never a mention about copyrights that all expire, if they were ever copyrighted in the first place. I once contacted the ARRL about the copyright issue regarding posting QST articles from the 1950's, and they would not answer my question. Therefore some board admins enforce the copyright issue, even going back to R9 magazine in the 1930's, much like an HOA Karen.

Jim
Wd5JKO


From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 09:59:44 2025
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:59:44 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
In-Reply-To: <000901dc69e3$c598f260$50cad720$@verizon.net>
References: <AABWVRA4CAN2XD22@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
	<D51BBFDE-7771-408A-B47C-F117330E338A@sbcglobal.net>
	<1715277310.4720875.1765375917578@mail.yahoo.com>
	<000901dc69e3$c598f260$50cad720$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CALWD7Z4c-yhSFrE4UjsJS8qjXS=syEiE=E4L2MPZj5F1cju7Cw@mail.gmail.com>

>maybe Pete, WA2CWA can speak more to that since he deals with it as a matter of course.

He's not a copyright lawyer.  The only bankable authority on this is a
lawyer who works in the area of copyright.  Anyone else is just
gassing like a jailhouse lawyer.
If you get flack about copyright ask the self appointed adjudicator if
he is a lawyer.  If he says no then tell him to shut up (politely).

73
Rob
K5UJ

From manualman at juno.com  Wed Dec 17 02:36:34 2025
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 02:36:34 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
Message-ID: <AABWWEZQEAN3B68S@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>

If you want information about ARRL's Copyright rules, go here:
http://www.arrl.org/copyright

As I said in numerous forums over the years, the use of word or words
"Copyright" and the "right to copy" or "copy right" mean two different
things.

Pete, wa2cwa


On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 14:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Jim Candela
<jcandela at prodigy.net> writes:

I have tried to enter the site about 6 times over the last few days,
Nada..500 error

I fear that whatever the issue is, a data purge might be necessary to
update, and fix the site. Without the 20+ years of data, the site would
never recover. Activity today on AM message boards is elsewhere. 
A reflection as to why the big posters moved away is only partially due
to aging members, and silent key syndrome. 
I remember a time when I uploaded an image from a 1930's R9 magazine, and
I was warned about copyright laws...Admin said, a descendant of the
author might be triggered, and sue. Never a mention about copyrights that
all expire, if they were ever copyrighted in the first place. I once
contacted the ARRL about the copyright issue regarding posting QST
articles from the 1950's, and they would not answer my question.
Therefore some board admins enforce the copyright issue, even going back
to R9 magazine in the 1930's, much like an HOA Karen.

Jim
Wd5JKO


On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 08:56:08 PM CST, Kim Elmore
<cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 




Try https://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php

73,

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as
the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Dec 8, 2025, at 20:03, manualman at juno.com wrote:
> 
> ?Generally, if you wait till after 10PM EST, the site will be up and
> running. Sometimes it even works during the morning hours.
> On the Home page, click on STAFF LIST.
> 
> If in a hurry, you can use Internet Archive:
>
http://web.archive.org/web/20240614051148/https://amfone.net/Amforum/inde
> x.php?action=staff
> The URL will probably wrap to a second line. Copy the entire URL and
put
> it in your browser.
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 01:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Foltarz via AMRadio
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net> writes:
>> Does anyone  know whose is an Admin for amfone.net?
>> The site has been down too long. There is such a wealth of
>> information in the site it would be a terrible loss.
>> tnx
>> de WA4AMMark
> 
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From manualman at juno.com  Wed Dec 17 03:12:55 2025
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 03:12:55 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AMFone
Message-ID: <AABWWE3VLA4UUTFJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>

The Copyright laws gained some additional teeth with the passing of the
Copyright Act of 1976 and then gained bigger teeth with the passing of
the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act of 1998. 

AM Window still exists,  http://www.amwindow.org/
Only the bulletin board (forum) was disabled.

As far as moderation on AMfone:
W2INR, Gary, was the Founder and Administrator from 2002 to 2011. He and
other Administrators defined the rules and regulations of the forum which
they felt would be in the best interest of "all" members. As moderators
(and I was/is part of that team), it was our position to follow those
rules and regulations that the Administrators set down for all members to
read and accept. Those rules are still posted under the main title "Using
AMfone" - "Rules and Regs". 

Members move on for any number of reasons. AMfone, like a number of
forums that have been around for a number of years have a swinging door
that allows members to come and go for whatever reason. And. for those
that demanded control and no censorship, the moderator held the swinging
door open.

Pete, wa2cwa


On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 09:46:29 -0500 Mike Sawyer via AMRadio
<amradio at mailman.qth.net> writes:
> Jim, (et al),
>         I am not a lawyer and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express 
> last night, but I was always under the impression that so long as 
> you didn't use an image, passage, paragraph etc, for monetary or 
> promotional gain and it was in the public domain it didn't fall 
> under copyright laws. But who am I to know, maybe Pete, WA2CWA can 
> speak more to that since he deals with it as a matter of course. 
>         Now your last sentence touches on the 900lbs gorilla in the 
> room or the website if you will. Many AMers, myself included felt 
> that the board was being over moderate and left for more 
> 'friendlier' spaces. I returned from self-imposed exile but only to 
> check up on some others who felt their 'rigs' were cast in concrete 
> and remained and as stated, the board is a plethora of technical 
> information. I remember being on the old AM Window before it being 
> merged into what is now AMfone.net. 
> r,
> Mike(y)/W3SLK
> 
> 
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Candela
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2025 9:12 AM
> To: manualman at juno.com; Kim Elmore
> Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMFone
> 
>  
> I have tried to enter the site about 6 times over the last few days, 
> Nada..500 error
> 
> I fear that whatever the issue is, a data purge might be necessary 
> to update, and fix the site. Without the 20+ years of data, the site 
> would never recover. Activity today on AM message boards is 
> elsewhere. 
> A reflection as to why the big posters moved away is only partially 
> due to aging members, and silent key syndrome. 
> I remember a time when I uploaded an image from a 1930's R9 
> magazine, and I was warned about copyright laws...Admin said, a 
> descendant of the author might be triggered, and sue. Never a 
> mention about copyrights that all expire, if they were ever 
> copyrighted in the first place. I once contacted the ARRL about the 
> copyright issue regarding posting QST articles from the 1950's, and 
> they would not answer my question. Therefore some board admins 
> enforce the copyright issue, even going back to R9 magazine in the 
> 1930's, much like an HOA Karen.
> 
> Jim
> Wd5JKO
> 
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From ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 18 14:29:10 2025
From: ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net (Ron.K3PID)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 13:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 40 meter AM window
References: <1UkY3CubWF.1VDGIjGWGoG.ref@zeus>
Message-ID: <1UkY3CubWF.1VDGIjGWGoG@zeus>

So, I 
haven't fired up the T3/R390 station in awhile but today I had a few hours to myself so I flipped the breakers and tuned up on 7290 only to discover a sideband net in progress and in fact there were sideband QSO's 
blasting in all the way down to 7250. Most winter days I can catch someone on 
AM in that area but not a chance today! Have we(they) moved the AM window(s)? I 
know the "league" 
doesn't have much time for the AM gang, too much bandwidth I suppose.
 
 
Just wondering? I'll 
give it a try tomorrow morning...Helps heat the shack...
 
73
Ron K3PID
 
 

From manualman at juno.com  Thu Dec 18 15:23:42 2025
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 15:23:42 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 40 meter AM window
Message-ID: <AABWWJ22ZA2UULGJ@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>

Years ago, 7290 KHz was designated by some worldly power to be an AM
calling frequency. 
There was never an imaginary "AM Window" on 40 meters. 
The "AM Window" tag was generated by joke (secret handshake) by several
New England teenagers back in the "good old days" to meet up on 75
meters.
Today, it's still an imaginary tag that should be forgotten. You're
allowed to use the AM mode anywhere on the bands where phone is allowed
and your license allows.
It makes no sense to frequency limit yourself. AM operators don't operate
in a pen.

Yesterday afternoon around 4 PM EST (12/17/25), I heard (from NJ)  three
QSO's on AM. One at 7295 KHz, one at 7290 KHz, and one at 7280 KHz.
Life is good!

Pete, wa2cwa



On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 13:29:10 -0600 "Ron.K3PID" <ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net>
writes:
> So, I 
> haven't fired up the T3/R390 station in awhile but today I had a few 
> hours to myself so I flipped the breakers and tuned up on 7290 only 
> to discover a sideband net in progress and in fact there were 
> sideband QSO's 
> blasting in all the way down to 7250. Most winter days I can catch 
> someone on 
> AM in that area but not a chance today! Have we(they) moved the AM 
> window(s)? I 
> know the "league" 
> doesn't have much time for the AM gang, too much bandwidth I 
> suppose.
>  
>  
> Just wondering? I'll 
> give it a try tomorrow morning...Helps heat the shack...
>  
> 73
> Ron K3PID


From ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 18 17:09:39 2025
From: ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net (Ron.K3PID)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 16:09:39 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 40 meter AM window
In-Reply-To: <AABWWJ22ZA2SJN82@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABWWJ22ZA2SJN82@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1UkY3EoD5O.1coI67LSFs7@zeus>

Hi Pete, I realize that the "AMWindow" is not a real thing but I used it because everyone with an AM rig knows what you are talking about when you say AMWindow. Real or fake it serves the purpose. I was on about an hour before you yesterday and it was 100% sideband and loud stations too here in west central WI.
 
73 and catch you on 40!
Ron 

----- Original Message -----
From: <manualman at juno.com>
To: <ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 12/18/2025 2:23:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 40 meter AM window
________________________________________________________________________________

> Years ago, 7290 KHz was designated by some worldly power to be an AM
> calling frequency. 
> There was never an imaginary "AM Window" on 40 meters. 
> The "AM Window" tag was generated by joke (secret handshake) by several
> New England teenagers back in the "good old days" to meet up on 75
> meters.
> Today, it's still an imaginary tag that should be forgotten. You're
> allowed to use the AM mode anywhere on the bands where phone is allowed
> and your license allows.
> It makes no sense to frequency limit yourself. AM operators don't operate
> in a pen.
> 
> Yesterday afternoon around 4 PM EST (12/17/25), I heard (from NJ)  three
> QSO's on AM. One at 7295 KHz, one at 7290 KHz, and one at 7280 KHz.
> Life is good!
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 13:29:10 -0600 "Ron.K3PID" <ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net>
> writes:
>> So, I 
>> haven't fired up the T3/R390 station in awhile but today I had a few 
>> hours to myself so I flipped the breakers and tuned up on 7290 only 
>> to discover a sideband net in progress and in fact there were 
>> sideband QSO's 
>> blasting in all the way down to 7250. Most winter days I can catch 
>> someone on 
>> AM in that area but not a chance today! Have we(they) moved the AM 
>> window(s)? I 
>> know the "league" 
>> doesn't have much time for the AM gang, too much bandwidth I 
>> suppose.
>>  
>>  
>> Just wondering? I'll 
>> give it a try tomorrow morning...Helps heat the shack...
>>  
>> 73
>> Ron K3PID

From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Thu Dec 18 21:20:20 2025
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 20:20:20 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 40 meter AM window
In-Reply-To: <AABWWJ22ZA2UULGJ@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABWWJ22ZA2UULGJ@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAOhDOk3e_xtPHC9W4kCUfb3Bj05gFqNgx39jyrHGD8QFuLntFQ@mail.gmail.com>

There's a Saturday group that meets on 7.160 at 11am central. They're also
on, Daily, same frequency, at 3pm cst.

Operating your AM rig without a scope is like driving our car at night
without headlights. (~K4KYV)

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 14:25 <manualman at juno.com> wrote:

> Years ago, 7290 KHz was designated by some worldly power to be an AM
> calling frequency.
> There was never an imaginary "AM Window" on 40 meters.
> The "AM Window" tag was generated by joke (secret handshake) by several
> New England teenagers back in the "good old days" to meet up on 75
> meters.
> Today, it's still an imaginary tag that should be forgotten. You're
> allowed to use the AM mode anywhere on the bands where phone is allowed
> and your license allows.
> It makes no sense to frequency limit yourself. AM operators don't operate
> in a pen.
>
> Yesterday afternoon around 4 PM EST (12/17/25), I heard (from NJ)  three
> QSO's on AM. One at 7295 KHz, one at 7290 KHz, and one at 7280 KHz.
> Life is good!
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 13:29:10 -0600 "Ron.K3PID" <ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net>
> writes:
> > So, I
> > haven't fired up the T3/R390 station in awhile but today I had a few
> > hours to myself so I flipped the breakers and tuned up on 7290 only
> > to discover a sideband net in progress and in fact there were
> > sideband QSO's
> > blasting in all the way down to 7250. Most winter days I can catch
> > someone on
> > AM in that area but not a chance today! Have we(they) moved the AM
> > window(s)? I
> > know the "league"
> > doesn't have much time for the AM gang, too much bandwidth I
> > suppose.
> >
> >
> > Just wondering? I'll
> > give it a try tomorrow morning...Helps heat the shack...
> >
> > 73
> > Ron K3PID
>
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From vzwengr at gmail.com  Thu Dec 18 21:48:42 2025
From: vzwengr at gmail.com (VZW engr)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 19:48:42 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
Message-ID: <CAMtUwNrTU1joKrfmZjxVVJsJXkvgmn2a=DkJ9uU6xh_S1Z=UXw@mail.gmail.com>

 Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?

I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.  It
will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.

Eric
WB6TIX

From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 10:35:38 2025
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 09:35:38 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
In-Reply-To: <CAMtUwNrTU1joKrfmZjxVVJsJXkvgmn2a=DkJ9uU6xh_S1Z=UXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMtUwNrTU1joKrfmZjxVVJsJXkvgmn2a=DkJ9uU6xh_S1Z=UXw@mail.gmail.com>
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I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
masochists.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>
> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.  It
> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>
> Eric
> WB6TIX
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From vzwengr at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 12:55:33 2025
From: vzwengr at gmail.com (VZW engr)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 10:55:33 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
In-Reply-To: <CALWD7Z5f8bRnBKyYYEPEug9PzHVU9j+qDOjmaFNum=Vy_gyzQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMtUwNrTU1joKrfmZjxVVJsJXkvgmn2a=DkJ9uU6xh_S1Z=UXw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMtUwNrLNFSor366nHH_bsmu=pnhdGeZ3gzN_C5AZzqinzyknA@mail.gmail.com>

I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as the
final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4.   Not really.  :-)

I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas.   I live on 20 acres and the
nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
noise", both of which help, even if only a little.  I'll have to listen on
160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".

I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
cabinet.  Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
mouse intrusion.  I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical stuff
and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse.  :-)  However, this
will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
it's below freezing for most of the day.  After that, a careful inspection
of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
chew on stuff.

Eric
WB6TIX

On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
> you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
> system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
> receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
> doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
> masochists.
>
> 73
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
> >
> > I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
> It
> > will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
> >
> > Eric
> > WB6TIX
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From ars.w5jo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 16:13:47 2025
From: ars.w5jo at gmail.com (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:13:47 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
In-Reply-To: <CAMtUwNrLNFSor366nHH_bsmu=pnhdGeZ3gzN_C5AZzqinzyknA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMtUwNrTU1joKrfmZjxVVJsJXkvgmn2a=DkJ9uU6xh_S1Z=UXw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAMtUwNrLNFSor366nHH_bsmu=pnhdGeZ3gzN_C5AZzqinzyknA@mail.gmail.com>
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Eric,

Be very careful with the? mouse leavings.? In that country they can 
carry hantavirus which is a real booger.? Wear a dust mask and medical 
gloves when working with that transmitter and be careful cleaning out 
the rest.? ?Once clean and disinfected, you will be ok.

There is/was some activity around here OK, TX on 1.885 in the winter.? 
Until my wife became so ill, I operated with the stations that were 
regular at 9 PM.? W5KO, WB5HAK and KG5CW.? I have not been on with them 
in quite a while so am unsure of their activity.? It has been a very 
long time since I have heard much activity from AZ, NM and Southern 
Cal.? Most of the patrons have passed or moved, but there is always the 
possibility of you getting a bunch going.

Two things are required for successful operation on 160.? A very good 
antenna and high power.? As Rob said, put up a good vertical over a good 
ground field.? Here I have very good ground conductivity so I use an 
inverted L.? 50 ft. of which is vertical and another 125 ft. 
horizontal.? My tower and mast for the beam is 70 ft. and I shunt fed it 
till I decided to put a TV antenna on it to get the distant larger city 
stations.? Under it I have about 12 radials of varying length and have 
been fairly successful.

I can hear a bunch out in the NE of the USA but many have low dipoles or 
poor antenna systems, so I cannot work them unless I have a beverage, 
which I had till we moved.? Don, K4KYV can, probably be heard if he is 
on, however he has not been as active as he was a few years ago.? If you 
do SSB, there is a weekly net on Tuesday night on 1.960 run by Matt 
KD0OS at 8 PM Mountain Time.? Matt runs it SSB and stations from MO, TX, 
OK, KS, NM, CO, SD and occasionally S. CA check in.? If You can check 
in, it would be a good place to stir up some activity.
There are several AM capable stations who check in there, Arne/K0AS in 
Spearfish, SD among them.? Give it a try.

73,

Jim,
W5JO
Southern OK



On 12/19/2025 11:55 AM, VZW engr wrote:
> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as the
> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4.   Not really.  :-)
>
> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas.   I live on 20 acres and the
> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
> noise", both of which help, even if only a little.  I'll have to listen on
> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
>
> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
> cabinet.  Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
> mouse intrusion.  I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical stuff
> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse.  :-)  However, this
> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
> it's below freezing for most of the day.  After that, a careful inspection
> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
> chew on stuff.
>
> Eric
> WB6TIX
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
>> you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>> system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>> receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>> doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>> masochists.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>   Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>>
>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>> It
>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> WB6TIX
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 17:07:25 2025
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:07:25 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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I recall some fellows out in 0 land operating on 1985 in a military
net on Tuesday evenings?  Western MO, OK and maybe TX.  One or two
strapping but others not all good copy here.  A number of hams seem to
think that if a dipole at 40 feet works okay on 40 m., one at that
height will work on 160.  Not true, unless you truly only want to work
stations not far away.  But they will hear me calling CQ, call me, I
can't hear them, and I get flack for that.  They have a great rx
antenna but not so good for transmit.  As I have said before, with the
high cost of copper now, I don't expect folks to invest in an
extensive ground system but the vertical has to have something besides
a ground rod.

73
Rob
K5UJ

From vzwengr at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 20:01:42 2025
From: vzwengr at gmail.com (VZW engr)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:01:42 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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It was probably a bit overboard......N100 respirator (because that's what I
had), rubber gloves, goggles, scrub cap and a Tyvek apron, plus a spray
bottle of dilute bleach solution.

 A lot of time and money was spent teaching me how to work in areas where
it's "shields up" and I figured it was a bad idea to ignore it all just
because I was at home. :-)

Eric
WB6TIX





On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 2:14?PM Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Be very careful with the  mouse leavings.  In that country they can
> carry hantavirus which is a real booger.  Wear a dust mask and medical
> gloves when working with that transmitter and be careful cleaning out
> the rest.   Once clean and disinfected, you will be ok.
>
> There is/was some activity around here OK, TX on 1.885 in the winter.
> Until my wife became so ill, I operated with the stations that were
> regular at 9 PM.  W5KO, WB5HAK and KG5CW.  I have not been on with them
> in quite a while so am unsure of their activity.  It has been a very
> long time since I have heard much activity from AZ, NM and Southern
> Cal.  Most of the patrons have passed or moved, but there is always the
> possibility of you getting a bunch going.
>
> Two things are required for successful operation on 160.  A very good
> antenna and high power.  As Rob said, put up a good vertical over a good
> ground field.  Here I have very good ground conductivity so I use an
> inverted L.  50 ft. of which is vertical and another 125 ft.
> horizontal.  My tower and mast for the beam is 70 ft. and I shunt fed it
> till I decided to put a TV antenna on it to get the distant larger city
> stations.  Under it I have about 12 radials of varying length and have
> been fairly successful.
>
> I can hear a bunch out in the NE of the USA but many have low dipoles or
> poor antenna systems, so I cannot work them unless I have a beverage,
> which I had till we moved.  Don, K4KYV can, probably be heard if he is
> on, however he has not been as active as he was a few years ago.  If you
> do SSB, there is a weekly net on Tuesday night on 1.960 run by Matt
> KD0OS at 8 PM Mountain Time.  Matt runs it SSB and stations from MO, TX,
> OK, KS, NM, CO, SD and occasionally S. CA check in.  If You can check
> in, it would be a good place to stir up some activity.
> There are several AM capable stations who check in there, Arne/K0AS in
> Spearfish, SD among them.  Give it a try.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim,
> W5JO
> Southern OK
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2025 11:55 AM, VZW engr wrote:
> > I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as
> the
> > final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4.   Not really.  :-)
> >
> > I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas.   I live on 20 acres and the
> > nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
> > noise", both of which help, even if only a little.  I'll have to listen
> on
> > 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
> >
> > I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
> > cabinet.  Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
> > cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
> > mouse intrusion.  I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical
> stuff
> > and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
> > mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse.  :-)  However,
> this
> > will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
> > it's below freezing for most of the day.  After that, a careful
> inspection
> > of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
> > chew on stuff.
> >
> > Eric
> > WB6TIX
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
> >> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
> >> you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
> >> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
> >> system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
> >> receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
> >> doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
> >> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
> >> masochists.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Rob
> >> K5UJ
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>   Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
> >>>
> >>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
> >> It
> >>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>> WB6TIX
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
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From douglas.rowlett at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 22:57:03 2025
From: douglas.rowlett at gmail.com (Douglas Rowlett)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:57:03 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 245, Issue 6
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>   1. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (VZW engr)
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>   3. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (Rob Atkinson)
>   4. Re: 160 meter AM in Arizona (VZW engr)
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 10:55:33 -0700
> From: VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com>
> To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as the
> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4.   Not really.  :-)
> 
> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas.   I live on 20 acres and the
> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
> noise", both of which help, even if only a little.  I'll have to listen on
> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
> 
> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
> cabinet.  Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
> mouse intrusion.  I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical stuff
> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse.  :-)  However, this
> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
> it's below freezing for most of the day.  After that, a careful inspection
> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
> chew on stuff.
> 
> Eric
> WB6TIX
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
>> you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>> system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>> receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>> doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>> masochists.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>> 
>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>> It
>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> WB6TIX
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:13:47 -0600
> From: Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com>
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> Eric,
> 
> Be very careful with the? mouse leavings.? In that country they can
> carry hantavirus which is a real booger.? Wear a dust mask and medical
> gloves when working with that transmitter and be careful cleaning out
> the rest.? ?Once clean and disinfected, you will be ok.
> 
> There is/was some activity around here OK, TX on 1.885 in the winter.?
> Until my wife became so ill, I operated with the stations that were
> regular at 9 PM.? W5KO, WB5HAK and KG5CW.? I have not been on with them
> in quite a while so am unsure of their activity.? It has been a very
> long time since I have heard much activity from AZ, NM and Southern
> Cal.? Most of the patrons have passed or moved, but there is always the
> possibility of you getting a bunch going.
> 
> Two things are required for successful operation on 160.? A very good
> antenna and high power.? As Rob said, put up a good vertical over a good
> ground field.? Here I have very good ground conductivity so I use an
> inverted L.? 50 ft. of which is vertical and another 125 ft.
> horizontal.? My tower and mast for the beam is 70 ft. and I shunt fed it
> till I decided to put a TV antenna on it to get the distant larger city
> stations.? Under it I have about 12 radials of varying length and have
> been fairly successful.
> 
> I can hear a bunch out in the NE of the USA but many have low dipoles or
> poor antenna systems, so I cannot work them unless I have a beverage,
> which I had till we moved.? Don, K4KYV can, probably be heard if he is
> on, however he has not been as active as he was a few years ago.? If you
> do SSB, there is a weekly net on Tuesday night on 1.960 run by Matt
> KD0OS at 8 PM Mountain Time.? Matt runs it SSB and stations from MO, TX,
> OK, KS, NM, CO, SD and occasionally S. CA check in.? If You can check
> in, it would be a good place to stir up some activity.
> There are several AM capable stations who check in there, Arne/K0AS in
> Spearfish, SD among them.? Give it a try.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim,
> W5JO
> Southern OK
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2025 11:55 AM, VZW engr wrote:
>> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as the
>> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4.   Not really.  :-)
>> 
>> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas.   I live on 20 acres and the
>> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
>> noise", both of which help, even if only a little.  I'll have to listen on
>> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
>> 
>> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
>> cabinet.  Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
>> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
>> mouse intrusion.  I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical stuff
>> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
>> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse.  :-)  However, this
>> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
>> it's below freezing for most of the day.  After that, a careful inspection
>> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
>> chew on stuff.
>> 
>> Eric
>> WB6TIX
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
>>> you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
>>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>>> system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>>> receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>>> doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
>>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>>> masochists.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> K5UJ
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>>> It
>>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric
>>>> WB6TIX
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:07:25 -0600
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com>
> Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> I recall some fellows out in 0 land operating on 1985 in a military
> net on Tuesday evenings?  Western MO, OK and maybe TX.  One or two
> strapping but others not all good copy here.  A number of hams seem to
> think that if a dipole at 40 feet works okay on 40 m., one at that
> height will work on 160.  Not true, unless you truly only want to work
> stations not far away.  But they will hear me calling CQ, call me, I
> can't hear them, and I get flack for that.  They have a great rx
> antenna but not so good for transmit.  As I have said before, with the
> high cost of copper now, I don't expect folks to invest in an
> extensive ground system but the vertical has to have something besides
> a ground rod.
> 
> 73
> Rob
> K5UJ
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:01:42 -0700
> From: VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com>
> To: Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com>
> Cc: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 160 meter AM in Arizona
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> 
> It was probably a bit overboard......N100 respirator (because that's what I
> had), rubber gloves, goggles, scrub cap and a Tyvek apron, plus a spray
> bottle of dilute bleach solution.
> 
> A lot of time and money was spent teaching me how to work in areas where
> it's "shields up" and I figured it was a bad idea to ignore it all just
> because I was at home. :-)
> 
> Eric
> WB6TIX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 2:14?PM Jim Wilhite <ars.w5jo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> Be very careful with the  mouse leavings.  In that country they can
>> carry hantavirus which is a real booger.  Wear a dust mask and medical
>> gloves when working with that transmitter and be careful cleaning out
>> the rest.   Once clean and disinfected, you will be ok.
>> 
>> There is/was some activity around here OK, TX on 1.885 in the winter.
>> Until my wife became so ill, I operated with the stations that were
>> regular at 9 PM.  W5KO, WB5HAK and KG5CW.  I have not been on with them
>> in quite a while so am unsure of their activity.  It has been a very
>> long time since I have heard much activity from AZ, NM and Southern
>> Cal.  Most of the patrons have passed or moved, but there is always the
>> possibility of you getting a bunch going.
>> 
>> Two things are required for successful operation on 160.  A very good
>> antenna and high power.  As Rob said, put up a good vertical over a good
>> ground field.  Here I have very good ground conductivity so I use an
>> inverted L.  50 ft. of which is vertical and another 125 ft.
>> horizontal.  My tower and mast for the beam is 70 ft. and I shunt fed it
>> till I decided to put a TV antenna on it to get the distant larger city
>> stations.  Under it I have about 12 radials of varying length and have
>> been fairly successful.
>> 
>> I can hear a bunch out in the NE of the USA but many have low dipoles or
>> poor antenna systems, so I cannot work them unless I have a beverage,
>> which I had till we moved.  Don, K4KYV can, probably be heard if he is
>> on, however he has not been as active as he was a few years ago.  If you
>> do SSB, there is a weekly net on Tuesday night on 1.960 run by Matt
>> KD0OS at 8 PM Mountain Time.  Matt runs it SSB and stations from MO, TX,
>> OK, KS, NM, CO, SD and occasionally S. CA check in.  If You can check
>> in, it would be a good place to stir up some activity.
>> There are several AM capable stations who check in there, Arne/K0AS in
>> Spearfish, SD among them.  Give it a try.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Jim,
>> W5JO
>> Southern OK
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2025 11:55 AM, VZW engr wrote:
>>> I was considering starting out with a TX using a grid modulated 1AD4 as
>> the
>>> final, and a mobile whip on a wood 4 by 4.   Not really.  :-)
>>> 
>>> I don't yet have any 160 meter TX antennas.   I live on 20 acres and the
>>> nearest neighbors are far, far away, so I'm dealing only with "natural
>>> noise", both of which help, even if only a little.  I'll have to listen
>> on
>>> 160 meters and "see what I hear" before I decide "what's next".
>>> 
>>> I (carefully) cleaned out the mouse "debris" from the meter deck of the
>>> cabinet.  Unfortunately some mouse "debris" went down the sides of the
>>> cabinet and the smell remains.There appears to be no other issues with
>>> mouse intrusion.  I do want to remove all the electronics/electrical
>> stuff
>>> and gently pressure wash out the cabinet interior so I can minimize the
>>> mouse smell..not sure if mouse or cigar smell is worse.  :-)  However,
>> this
>>> will be a summertime project as I don't like "playing in the water" when
>>> it's below freezing for most of the day.  After that, a careful
>> inspection
>>> of the wiring harness in the meter deck will be in order as mice like to
>>> chew on stuff.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> WB6TIX
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 8:35?AM Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think there's 160 m. AM activity in the southwest (S. Cal., AZ and
>>>> maybe NM) but I don't know much more about it.  With that transmitter
>>>> you have the power and audio.  You'll need to get a decent antenna
>>>> which on 160 usually means some kind of vertical with a good ground
>>>> system.  You can listen to 160 and get an idea of how good your
>>>> receiving setup is.  Using the tx antenna for receiving usually
>>>> doesn't work too well.  160 is typically a fall and winter band.  A
>>>> few die-hards operate there in the summer, but most of us aren't
>>>> masochists.
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> 
>>>> Rob
>>>> K5UJ
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 8:49?PM VZW engr <vzwengr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>  Does anyone know of activity in Arizona on 160 meters?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I picked up CCA AM-1000D TX that I'm planning on moving to 160 meters.
>>>> It
>>>>> will be awhile, as the TX just arrived to its new home in my garage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> WB6TIX
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