[AMRadio] Fw: ARLB031 ARRL Urges Members to Join in Strongly Opposing FCC's Application Fees Proposal

Wed Oct 28 23:00:21 EDT 2020

I agree $110 is quite a bit.  I pay half that.  However, we find it
necessary to drive unless we live in a major metro area with lots of public
transportation.

Our hobby is not a necessity.  Excessive impediments to entry will have
negative consequences.

I still think amateur radio contributes much to this country.  If the
majority disagrees (or the commercial interests convince the government we
don’t) I think our hobby will go away more quickly if these increases are
implemented without due consideration of the consequences.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:23 PM Poetter Bruehl <pbruehl at gmail.com> wrote:

> 16 year olds have to pay for their drivers license (my last renewal was
> over $110). A drivers license is more important than an optional ham
> license. One must pay to play.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Bob <robertisselhard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If I may, yes, I and many other hams can afford to spend tons of money
> on
> > our hobby.
> >
> > However, as a VE I test many young people who can not afford to do so.
> >
> > If you are a pilot, did you buy a Learjet immediately after obtaining
> your
> > pilot’s license?  Probably not I would suspect.
> >
> > If you obtained your drivers license at 16, did you (not mom and dad)
> buy a
> > brand new luxery car?  Most of us would say no.
> >
> > Please understand I am not trying to start an argument here.  I merely
> > point out that not all hams can afford multi-thousand dollar rigs.  They
> > start out with older, less expensive rigs and long for something better,
> > just like we did when we were kids.
> >
> > Maybe some of us older hams who have benefitted financially from the
> > knowledge our hobby gave us should offer to pay the license fees for the
> > kids as an incentive to study and pass the test?  Nothing like incentive
> is
> > there?
> >
> > And frankly, if we don’t continue to recruit more youngsters into our
> hobby
> > we won’t have it much longer as the commercial interests look at our
> > numbers to potentially use any decline against us when lobbying against
> us
> > to take our frequencies.
> >
> > Okay I’m taking my 78 year old tired body down from the soapbox now.  I
> > wish all of you the best.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob, K5INW
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 6:21 PM W. Harris <nbcblue at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hams can spend thousands of dollars on plastic radios and tower/antenna
> >> systems but can't afford a $50 renewal fee ever ten years? Really?
> >> Bill - K5MIL
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net <amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> >> on behalf of w5jo at brightok.net <w5jo at brightok.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:17 PM
> >> To: AM Radio List <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Subject: [AMRadio] Fw: ARLB031 ARRL Urges Members to Join in Strongly
> >> Opposing FCC's Application Fees Proposal
> >>
> >> Everyone should take note .
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> W5JO
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> SB QST @ ARL $ARLB031
> >> ARLB031 ARRL Urges Members to Join in Strongly Opposing FCC's
> >> Application Fees Proposal
> >>
> >> ZCZC AG31
> >> QST de W1AW
> >> ARRL Bulletin 31  ARLB031
> >> From ARRL Headquarters
> >> Newington CT  October 28, 2020
> >> To all radio amateurs
> >>
> >> SB QST ARL ARLB031
> >> ARLB031 ARRL Urges Members to Join in Strongly Opposing FCC's
> >> Application Fees Proposal
> >>
> >> ARRL will file comments in firm opposition to an FCC proposal to
> >> impose a $50 fee on amateur radio license and application fees. With
> >> the November 16 comment deadline fast approaching, ARRL urges
> >> members to add their voices to ARRL's by filing opposition comments
> >> of their own. The FCC Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) MD Docket
> >> 20-270 appeared in the October 15 edition of The Federal Register
> >> and sets deadlines of November 16 to comment and November 30 to post
> >> reply comments, which are comments on comments already filed.
> >>
> >> The NPRM can be found online at, https://tinyurl.com/yyk8f2yp .
> >>
> >> ARRL has prepared a Guide to Filing Comments with the FCC which
> >> includes tips for preparing comments and step-by-step filing
> >> instructions. File comments on MD Docket 20-270 using the FCC's
> >> Electronic Comment Filing System (ECFS).  The instructions can be
> >> found online at, http://www.arrl.org/FCC-Fees-Proposal .
> >>
> >> Under the proposal, amateur radio licensees would pay a $50 fee for
> >> each amateur radio application for new licenses, license renewals,
> >> upgrades to existing licenses, and vanity call sign requests. The
> >> FCC also has proposed a $50 fee to obtain a printed copy of a
> >> license. Excluded are applications for administrative updates, such
> >> as changes of address, and annual regulatory fees. Amateur Service
> >> licensees have been exempt from application fees for several years.
> >>
> >> The FCC proposal is contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking
> >> (NPRM) in MD Docket 20-270, which was adopted to implement portions
> >> of the "Repack Airwaves Yielding Better Access for Users of Modern
> >> Services Act" of 2018 - the so-called "Ray Baum's Act." The Act
> >> requires that the FCC switch from a Congressionally-mandated fee
> >> structure to a cost-based system of assessment. In its NPRM, the FCC
> >> proposed application fees for a broad range of services that use the
> >> FCC's Universal Licensing System (ULS), including the Amateur Radio
> >> Service. The 2018 statute excludes the Amateur Service from annual
> >> regulatory fees, but not from application fees. The FCC proposal
> >> affects all FCC services and does not single out amateur radio.
> >>
> >> ARRL is encouraging members to file comments that stress amateur
> >> radio's contributions to the country and communities. ARRL's Guide
> >> to Filing Comments includes "talking points" that may be helpful in
> >> preparing comments. These stress amateur radio's role in
> >> volunteering communication support during disasters and emergencies,
> >> and inspiring students to pursue education and careers in
> >> engineering, radio technology, and communications.
> >>
> >> As the FCC explained in its NPRM, Congress, through the Ray Baum's
> >> Act, is compelling regulatory agencies such as the FCC to recover
> >> from applicants the costs involved in filing and handling
> >> applications.
> >>
> >> In its NPRM the FCC encouraged licensees to update their own
> >> information online without charge. Many, if not most, Amateur
> >> Service applications may be handled via the largely automated
> >> Universal License Service (ULS). The Ray Baum's Act does not exempt
> >> filing fees in the Amateur Radio Service, and the FCC stopped
> >> assessing fees for vanity call signs several years ago.
> >>
> >> See also "FCC Proposes to Reinstate Amateur Radio Service Fees,"
> >> reported by ARRL in August, at,
> >>
> >>
> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-proposes-to-reinstate-amateur-radio-service-fees
> >> .
> >>
> >> A summary page of the proceeding can also be found online at,
> >> http://www.arrl.org/FCC-Fees-Proposal .
> >> NNNN
> >> /EX
> >>
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