[AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 113, Issue 20

Wed Jun 19 08:11:21 EDT 2013

I'm a newbe to AM .. I got my feet wet so to speak just over a year ago,but
the bug has bit me bad. For over 20 years contesting and working DX was all
I wanted to do, but that has gotten old same as I have and I wanted to get
back to where being around the radios was fun again. A buddy of mine and my
best friend now has helped me with getting on the air and building and
restoring rigs. The one thing all of this has tought me is how much some of
the old AM'ers know about eletronics it's almost unreal. I wish I could
soak up like a spungs every thing they pass along to me. I don't think AM
is dieing it's just growing and newbies will keep it going it's just going
to take some time for people like me to get enough time to get on the air,
were we work and don't have the time to get on the radio as much as we'd
like it will happen soon for me as I'm getting close to retirement. One
reason I know it isn't going to the way side is every thing I try to buy on
ebay gets bought by someone spending a lot more money they I want to pay
for some nice peice that are out there. I have a good base to work with as
soon as I get the time .. I have a T3 and the R390A's and SP 600's and I've
restored 2 of the SP 600's myself and that is what's keeping the fire going
for me. I'm building my own power supply for my ART 13 and I can't wait to
get it on the air ..

Don WC4D

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>    1. Re: AM Presentation (manualman at juno.com)
>    2. AM on 7290 Right Now (Mike Duke, K5XU)
>    3. Re: AM on 7290 Right Now (n9jcq at aol.com)
>    4. Re: AM Presentation (WA?STX/4)
>    5. Re: AM Presentation (CL in NC)
>    6. Why AM (john nelson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:39:50 -0400
> From: manualman at juno.com
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Presentation
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> I operate 40 meters and always to seem to find an AM contact. On 20
> meters, generally after one or to CQ transmissions, I can make an AM
> contact. Whether it's a dye-in-the-wool  AM'er or just someone who pushed
> the AM button on is rig, doesn't make a difference to me. They're always
> fun QSO's. I generally try to stay clear of any large AM roundtables and
> AM anarchy-type operating that generally you can find on bands like 75
> meters. To me, they're zero fun, unless you just like to stare at your
> equipment for long periods of time.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:53:13 -0400 "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> writes:
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Donald Chester <k4kyv at charter.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Something I have noted recently though, is that the BC stations on
> > 7200-7300
> > > seem to be thinning out, especially in the early evening hours
> > before
> > > several loud ones from the middle east region fire up at 0400Z.
> > >
> >
> > I've had good success on 40 in the evening. The station on 7.290
> > (RCI?)
> > leaves the frequency sometime around 8-9 pm and there's been a group
> > on
> > there fairly often from 8 land and other areas. I joined them a
> > couple
> > weeks back. 7.220 is another spot that has been open a lot, have
> > worked
> > Steve/K4HX there a few times.
> >
> > Between the summer static and my reduced schedule due to the new
> > harmonic,
> > I'm pretty much restricted to 40m for a while. And the storms last
> > week
> > took down my dipole in grand style, so that needs repairs.
> >
> >
> > > The most effective way to promote AM is to simply make sure that
> > AM signals
> > > are heard on all the bands, daily.
> > >
> >
> > Man, isn't that the simple truth! I give you high marks for being on
> > there
> > for more years than I can remember, Don. You tend to be on much
> > later at
> > night when many other stations have hit the hay, but it's good to
> > know
> > there are a few stations to be found at that time of the night.
> > Doug/VE4BX
> > was another anchor heard often in the evening/late night hours. His
> > signal
> > is greatly missed.
> >
> > The frustrating part to me is hearing the reports of 'I listened
> > but...'.
> > If only half of these folks would just find a spot, throw out a few
> > CQs, it
> > would be an amazing transformation.
> >
> > ~ Todd/KAQ
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:53:27 -0500
> From: "Mike Duke, K5XU" <k5xu at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] AM on 7290 Right Now
> Message-ID: <59ECBE5E769E42C7BBC8752E27FA6F67 at K5XU>
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> A group is there as I write this. Some are down in my
> static, but several are very readable here in Mississippi.
>
> I would jump in with my plastic rig if the static were a bit
> less, and mostly if my 40 meter dipole weren't rolled up
> lying atop the air conditioner compressor waiting to be
> re-hung by some friends after Field day.
>
> The nerve of that 40 meter tree limb to decide to break just
> because the wind was blowing one day about a month ago.
>
>
>
>
> Mike Duke, K5XU
> American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:06:08 -0400 (EDT)
> From: n9jcq at aol.com
> To: k5xu at comcast.net, amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 7290 Right Now
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>  They are here in the central midwest,,  8 & 9 calls.  Listening to them
> on my Zenith TO B600 and Grundig Sat800
> Joe N9JCQ
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Duke, K5XU <k5xu at comcast.net>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 7:54 pm
> Subject: [AMRadio] AM on 7290 Right Now
>
>
> A group is there as I write this. Some are down in my
> static, but several are very readable here in Mississippi.
>
> I would jump in with my plastic rig if the static were a bit
> less, and mostly if my 40 meter dipole weren't rolled up
> lying atop the air conditioner compressor waiting to be
> re-hung by some friends after Field day.
>
> The nerve of that 40 meter tree limb to decide to break just
> because the wind was blowing one day about a month ago.
>
>
>
>
> Mike Duke, K5XU
> American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:40:39 -0400
> From: WA?STX/4 <AAR7IR at Hotmail.Com>
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> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Presentation
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> fyi ...
>
> There are a number of stations in QSO at 7290 this evening.   W?VMC, KC9QJE
> and W3HM (who is particularly loud this evening).
>
> Nice copy on everyone...
>
> de WA?STX/4
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WA?STX/4 [mailto:AAR7IR at Hotmail.Com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:14 PM
> To: 'W. Harris'; amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Presentation
>
> I too have enjoyed listening to quite a bit of activity here in the DC
> Metro
> area @ 7.295.   I wasn't aware of any AM activity around 7.160 but I will
> begin stalking that frequency too now.
>
> Thanks for the tip !
>
> --... ...--
> John, WA?STX/4
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: W. Harris [mailto:nbcblue at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:05 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Presentation
>
> You need to listen around 7.295. I hear AM activity there every day and
> evenings and manage to put my Viking Ranger on every now and then.
> Occasionally some AM activity pops up around 7.160.
>
> Bill - K5MIL
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:48:20 -0700
> > From: "Bob Macklin" <macklinbob at gmail.com>
> >
> > I wish there was 40M AM activity. I have used my DX-60 for local rag
> > chew operation. But there is no one left here that wants to play.
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
> To: "amradio at mailman.qth.net" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
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> My 2 cents.? Hams that used/use AM are passing on, and AM is not promoted
> anywhere except among AM'ers as a mode.? The 'Old Buzzard' transmissions do
> not appeal to the majority of hams that like PTT/VOX and can interject into
> conversations.? The computer rig crowd also do not like it that you are not
> on their freq. to 10 to the minus 12th power with their TCXO, and their
> apparent lack of ability to operate RIT.? Here is one of my sore points
> that will tick off a few, the lack of treble people seem to desire in a lot
> of AM operation makes weak signal work very difficult.? It sounds great
> when you are 20 over, but when you are S6, it sounds like burbling mud.?
> Maybe you are not getting those distant stations because you are
> unintelligible.? The number one avenue we have to keep the fires going is
> forum like this, coordinating events, and working AM as much as possible,
> and going onto the spotting sites and posting AM DX.? We have a pretty good
>  group of AM ops in Western NC and the SC Upstate, around 24 fairly active
> and 35 total with the dabblers.? We meet once a month for lunch, on the air
> at 3715 Sundays at 2000Z and Tuesdays at 1300Z, and a 6 meter group that
> meets on 50.4? Tuesday at 8PM DEST, or 0000Z Wednesday.? One thing though,
> other than a couple of fellows, I am the youngest at age 60, the rest go up
> into their 90's.? Maybe the various local groups across the county could
> coordinate and have a nationwide? QSO party, you can bet the ARRL won't.?
>
>
> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:25:36 -0500
> From: john nelson <solarelectricjohn at gmail.com>
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [AMRadio] Why AM
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> I have been following the threads for a few days and it is a very
> interesting discussion to say the least. I have a few am rigs DX30,DX60 and
> a Drake T4-XC and I have limited time to keep these rigs running so I am
> not on the air as much as Iwould like to. But this might just be the reason
> that there is a dwindling interest in AM. When most of us were much younger
> AM was our first dabbling in armature radio. Today there is a lot of (tech
> savvy) much younger hams that do what they know how to do and that is go
> digital. Many of us started with old surplus equipment we were given or
> bought from the AX-Man surplus stores in the 60's and 70's and if you could
> save enough money buy a Heath Kit. Now days the young hams have grown up
> behind a computer and feel most comfortable hiding behind a screen making
> social interactions and it carries over to their hobby of armature radio.
> Let?s face it most of the AM?ers are in their 60's and in 20 years it will
> be all but gone.
>
>
>
> We learned the basics of radios by leering theory learning to read a
> schematic and figuring out how to solder, oh ya let?s not forget your first
> real shock from a soon to be respected power supply. If AM is to survive it
> will have to be with the help of clubs. There is still an interest in
> armature radio or the younger hams would be doing something else rather
> than joining a club and attending meetings. perhaps it is our fault that
> the ranks of AM?ers are dwindling. AM is so simple but at the same time
> very complicated to the plug and play generation.
>
>
>
> There is a tremendous amount of knowledge in the old men that make the
> ranks of the AM?ers and if there is not a transfer of this knowledge it
> will be gone in a few decades. There needs to be a Manhattan type project
> to develop a (Heath Kit style) AM transmitter with all of the knowledge of
> decades of experimentation  so the younger hams can build their first tube
> rig. This would allow the younger hams to learn the basics of a real radio
> and develop the pride we all had when we powered up our first home brew or
> kit. if there was a kit or a least a very good set of step by step plans
> that would cover all the basics and it could be integrated in many of the
> clubs around the country this would regenerate interest in the old soon to
> be lost art of AM. It is not that young people would rather go digital on
> VHF/UHF it is they have not a lot of options. If you handed a young ham a
> DX-35 and told them to get it working they would not have any idea where to
> begin and just toss it in the trash. Let?s face it there is a lot of guys
> and gals that have a wealth of knowledge in AM and they need to figure out
> a way to safely put it in the hands of the younger hams.
>
>
>
> This is just my view but I think it is what is necessary to keep the
> interest in this fascinating part of the armature radio hobby
>
>
>
> John W0XAZ
>
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