[AMRadio] Valiant Tank Caps

JohnPerz at aol.com JohnPerz at aol.com
Wed Feb 22 20:06:09 EST 2012


Larry,
           I  had to redo the output caps after one section of the 
turnstile got shorted.Got  some from a fellow in the midwest who had to purchase 
quanitity. Had to  series/parallel them to get proper values but is working out 
fine with loading  to 200 watts cw, 150 plus on AM.If they are what I 
think, they will have flat  leads, much sturdier than others, bit of a pain to 
work with but manageable.Some  where have pix of how I did it. Write if I can 
help to the extent I know  how.          Regards, John,  WA2FNS
 
 
In a message dated 2/22/2012 7:33:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lcbs at sbcglobal.net writes:

Good  day, Thanks so much for the leads, I found some 3.5KV RF caps on 
Ebay. These  are Russian Military guys but surely should not smoke like the 
1.5KV snubber  and silver mica ones did. I know what the owners manual from 
Johnson says but  the caps on the market today do not seem to handle large 
amounts of RF very  well. Then maybe the ones I got were defective. Let you know 
in several weeks  after caps come over the big pond.
73's
Larry K9LWI

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Today's  Topics:

1. Re: Valiant PI net caps (James R. La  Frieda)
2. Re: 15 AM Open Right Now (Don  Cunningham)
3. Re: Valiant PI net caps  (ne1s at securespeed.us)
4. Re: Valiant PI net caps  (JohnPerz at aol.com)


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Message:  1
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:20:54 -0800
From: "James R. La Frieda"  <lafrieda at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Valiant PI net  caps
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Hi Larry,

Have a Valiant, and  although I haven't replaced the tank caps, I looked 
at the Valiant  schematic and noticed that the tank caps are C 38 A, B, 
C, D at *150 mmf  500 V 5% silver mica*, and that the C39A, B, C and D 
are *350 mmf , 500  V  5% silver mica capacitors.*

If you go to justradios.com and  look at their on-line Excel Order Form, 
you will note that they sell  Silver mica capacitors at 500 V, 1000 V, 
1600 V and 6000V.

150 pf  at 500 V  are .79 each

350 pf at 500 V are  .99  each

All the Best,
Jim ( N6MV)




On 2/21/2012 8:36  AM, Lawrence Steeno wrote:
> Good day, I have 2 Valiant transmitters on  my bench now with leaky tank 
caps, especially the 300 mmf one. The octagon one  with 3 caps in it are 
some what okay but suspect. There is another Valiant  that is waiting for some 
also. Now I am wondering where I may get some of  these for replacement. I 
tried RF Parts with no luck. I tried regular ceramic  caps and they failed 
soon so I tried snubber caps at 2KV and they failed also.  Where may I look 
and for what?
> I am lost and these transmitters are  great units and should be warming 
up the ionosphere rather than holding down  the top of my bench.
> Thanks a bunch.
> Larry  K9LWI
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Message:  2
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:38:28 -0600
From: "Don Cunningham"  <donc at martineer.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 15 AM Open Right  Now
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Sorry I missed you, Todd.  I was hearing  W1GUD, I believe it was, in 
Florida 
so we could likely have worked!!   I plan to get on there more often.  I 
just 
forget 15M for some  reason, and that's ALL I worked as a Novice, hi.  
Worked 
all states  except Mississippi.  Just couldn't find a station there on  
15M!!
73,
Don, WB5HAK  



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Message: 3
Date: Tue,  21 Feb 2012 16:58:03 -0500 (EST)
From: ne1s at securespeed.us
Subject: Re:  [AMRadio] Valiant PI net caps
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> Good day, I have 2 Valiant  transmitters on my bench now with leaky tank
> caps, especially the 300  mmf one. The octagon one with 3 caps in it are
> some what okay but  suspect. There is another Valiant that is waiting for
> some also. Now I  am wondering where I may get some of these for
> replacement. I tried RF  Parts with no luck. I tried regular ceramic caps
> and they failed soon  so I tried snubber caps at 2KV and they failed also.
> Where may I look  and for what?

I used 4 snubber caps (the large silver micas) in  series-parallel to
replace each of the postage-stamp micas used as padders  for 160M and 80M
(IIRC) on the high-impedance side of the pi-net output in  a friend's
(KB1IAW) Valiant. In addition to the RF voltage across them,  there is
significant RF current flowing in these caps, so paralleling them  helps
out there.

That transmitter has seen a lot of use on those  bands since I did that
work at least five years ago, and there has not been  a  failure.

73/GL,
-Larry/NE1S




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Message:  4
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:01:54 -0500 (EST)
From:  JohnPerz at aol.com
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Valiant PI net caps
To:  amradio at mailman.qth.net
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I was not able to keep the smoke in the 500 volt  caps.Got 1500  volt ones, 
so far, holding up. Not sure if this  indicates another problem, There  was 
a 
discussion about this on the  AM radio forum..........de  WA2FNS


In a message dated  2/21/2012 12:21:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
lafrieda at earthlink.net writes:

Hi  Larry,

Have a  Valiant, and although I haven't replaced the tank caps, I  looked 
at  the Valiant schematic and noticed that the tank caps are C 38 A,  B,  
C, D at *150 mmf 500 V 5% silver mica*, and that the C39A, B, C and  D  
are *350 mmf , 500 V  5% silver mica capacitors.*

If  you go to  justradios.com and look at their on-line Excel Order Form,  
you will note  that they sell Silver mica capacitors at 500 V, 1000  V, 
1600 V and  6000V.

150 pf at 500 V  are .79  each

350 pf at 500 V  are  .99 each

All the  Best,
Jim ( N6MV)




On  2/21/2012 8:36 AM, Lawrence  Steeno wrote:
> Good day, I have 2 Valiant  transmitters on my  bench now with leaky tank 
caps, especially the 300 mmf one.  The  octagon one with 3 caps in it are 
some what okay but suspect. There  is  another Valiant that is waiting for 
some 
also. Now I am wondering  where I may  get some of these for replacement. I 
tried RF Parts with  no luck. I tried  regular ceramic caps and they failed 
soon so I  tried snubber caps at 2KV and  they failed also. Where may I 
look 
and  for what?
> I am lost and these  transmitters are great units and  should be warming 
up the ionosphere rather  than holding down the top  of my bench.
> Thanks a bunch.
> Larry   K9LWI
>
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