[AMRadio] Ebs Test failure

Fri Nov 11 12:04:26 EST 2011

I also have twisted pair, and it used to go down all the time in the rain.
Verizon will NOT spend any money fixing it, wont pay to keep air pressure on 
the cables, as its like old tube broadcast stuff, to old and expensive to 
keep up.
Might make the stock price go down.

I can get fios, or comcast, comcast uses the cable for house entry, so 
getting TV, internet, and voice is just a box they install, no fiber or new 
cables outside.

Verizon came out with a huge list of give backs demanded of the union, 
holidays cut, pension eliminated, pay cuts, the ability to fire anyone for 
any reason, crappy medical plan, the ability to tell you you will be working 
up to 150 miles away from your current location, cuts to the 401K plan, the 
ability to outsource many more jobs (bozo's) and lots of other stuff.
They put out that all the techs just work on old copper lines that are going 
away, when MOST work on fiber and very high bandwidth equipment.
As part of the old MCI that verizon bought, I never worked on copper in my 
life, but hey, they got to find a way to get that stock price up somehow, 
ceo's can not get by on 16 million dollars a year!

My big problem with verizon is the company is so poorly run its mind 
blowing, 10,000 computer systems that do not talk to each other, and that 
extract any useful information and delete it.
Its VERY hard to figure out what you are supposed to do, where the equipment 
is (maybe 100 miles away, they are not clever enough to ship it to your 
office), then who to call to turn it up (some guy in Manila), sometimes no 
customer name, or contact, or address, or circuit number!

Its the American way of doing business, what's customer service? We have 
customers?
Who cares, what's the stock price doing?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ebs Test failure

> Yep!  I still have a twisted pair line in my house.
>
> Verizon keeps wanting me to get *FIOS*, and Comcast wants me to get
> *Triple Play*.
>
> The funny part is that while Verizon at LEAST is on my side of the
> street, Comcast is NOT.  It would be a major feat for them to get their
> fiber over here.  They'd have to dig up the city's street to get here!
>
> I use Direct TV for television, and have the *OLD* Comcast buried cable
> for Internet.
>
> They can both pound salt if they even dream of changing me!
>
> I will NOT allow either of them to tear up my driveway, again, to put in
> their crap.  I had to put up with the Keystone Cops brigade installing
> the fiber as it was a disaster when they first put it in.
>
> Verizon was tearing up their own twisted pair legacy system, and
> Comcast's old cable.  Then Comcast came through and put fiber on the
> other side of the street, tearing up Verizon's 100 pair lines, AND their
> own.
>
> Both had hired contractors to do the work.
>
> A friend of ours was working as a plumber for a small company, and he
> made enough from side work when the broke water lines, that he bought
> out the company.
>
> What a zoo!
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 11/11/2011 10:05 AM, BILL GUYGER wrote:
>> Here in Dallas I had to get what the phone guys call a "nailed up ISDN" 
>> for a
>> program circuit back to the station from American Airlines Center for
>> Dallas Stars program audio. It's a one direction on all the time (you 
>> don't have
>> to dial) ISDN using APT-X coding. It does require a PCAU (Program Channel 
>> Access
>> Unit) on each end but Broadcast Loops required a send coil and an 
>> equalized amp.
>>
>>
>> I don't know if you can even get a traditional loop any more at least 
>> around
>> here. If it can't be done in software there's a lot of young whipper 
>> snappers
>> who'll just give you a blank look.
>>
>> Bill AD5OL
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:38 AM, James M. Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Do you guys have any idea how hard it is to get a "TELEPHONE LINE" into 
>>> ur
>>> home these days.
>>
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