[AMRadio] AM power

Mon Jun 20 23:26:43 EDT 2011

If I get the gist of your comments about not letting them in, Bob in fact was 
part of having the DARC people come over since he had nothing to hide either, he 
just wanted to prove that he was not at fault to head the feds off at the pass.

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From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:32:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power

Ok, I went to the ARRL site and looked at current duties of OOs. It looks to 
me like some OOs have assumed a lot more that they were supposed to do if 
they are were reviewing stations and dealing with neighbors..   Not 
surprising. If an OO arrived here and said he wanted to see my station, I 
would tell him to get the h--- off of the property.  It was clear to me at 
the time that contact should be limited to a mail notification  in nearly 
all cases.  The concept of a ham going to a neighbors home and telling that 
person that his TV is junk and that the other ham is not causing a problem 
is simply wrong.   IE potential conflict of interest, not an independent 
party, etc etc.    I have some knowledge of what I am saying here, I am a 
forensic engineer.   please do not be stupid and say I must have something 
to hide or I would let an OO in.      yes, I also had the FCC contacted when 
I operated 15 m back at the big cycle in the 50s.   as I recall they sent me 
a copy of the letters and asked if I would consider operating at times that 
would have a minimal impact, IE other than prime TV watching time.  never 
came out and no other communication from the FCC.---- Original Message ----- 
From: "BILL GUYGER" <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power

A guy I went to Jr. High with back in the 60's was interfering with the TV
of the neighbor across the street when he operated on 15M. They called the 
FCC
etc. etc. and the Dallas ARC TVI committee plus the OO came out, determined 
that
the neighbor had an ancient TV with a 21 Mc. IF and told them to get a new 
TV
Bob was operating perfectly legally.

Bill AD5OL

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From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 5:50:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power

At the time I lived in San Jose Ca. The FCC office was in San Francisco 75
miles north.

I had a neighbor complain about me interfering with Ch 2 at 10PM when he
wanted to watch the news. Ch 2 was also in San Francisco.

I had a 1 watt 6M RC transmitter. I also had a 6M trap on my TV lead-in.

The OO went next door and informed my neighbor he needed to get his antenna
repaired before making any more complaints.

This was about 1962.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power

> I was an OO for many years, they have no authority what so ever and
> nothing to do with the FCC. it is only a courtesy. I can not imagine one
> actually coming out unless he lived very close. one of the main reasons I
> quit was because more than a few wanted to argue about what was observed .
> I suppose a local club could send out another ham for an interferance
> complaint if they were contacted, my experiance has been that they usually
> contact the local TV or radio station and they tell them to contact the
> FCC.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Macklin" <macklinbob at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power
>
>
>> My personal experience has been that before the FCC visits you an OO will
>> make a visit. It happened to me in the early 60's and I was found "NOT
>> GUILTY"!
>>
>> Bob Macklin
>> K5MYJ
>> Seattle, Wa.
>> "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 3:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dennis: that matches with what I have gleaned over the years, The FCC
>>> has
>>> far too much to do to be wasting time with hams. Except as you pointed
>>> out
>>> the interference issue. But of course that does not make a good story!
>>> The last I heard of a on site visit (ham)was probably 50 years ago.
>>> The
>>> FCC has not even been able to stop that clown that broadcasts on 160 and
>>> I
>>> think 80. I beleive that his license is on hold ( renewal) and he
>>> appealed
>>> and is then allowed to continue. operation while the appeal is in
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> From: "Dennis Gilliam" <dennisgilliam at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power
>>>
>>>
>>>> In my years as a broadcast engineer, I got to rub elbows with FCC
>>>> operatives
>>>> many times. It was always cordial. From that experience, I relate the
>>>> following:
>>>>
>>>> On the West coast, at least the Southern part to include AZ and NV, the
>>>> FCC
>>>> runs a custom pink metalflake Tahoe with an extensive array of antennas
>>>> under a fiberglass top, made to look like stock. Nothing appears
>>>> mounted
>>>> on
>>>> top. Tinted windows and fancy big mags finish off the look, like that
>>>> of
>>>> some drug kingpin. The idea is nobody will screw with it, nor ask
>>>> questions. It is a rented vehicle, and carries a plain Calif. plate.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sneaky.
>>>>
>>>> Inside, there is a bank of computers in the rear, with a dashboard
>>>> replaced
>>>> with heads-up data displays. It can take a look at any type of radio
>>>> communication, compare it to existing licenses, and give a directional
>>>> heading. Modulation, frequency, and audition measurement happens with
>>>> this
>>>> in real time up to several hundred miles away.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to hams, it doesn't roll unless there is a serious
>>>> complaint,
>>>> usually about interference with Public Service radio or part 74 from 2m
>>>> or
>>>> 440.
>>>>
>>>> Checking HF ops was never done (yet) by the field agent, as with the
>>>> various
>>>> antenna and transmission powers checking at a distance would prove
>>>> little.
>>>>
>>>> In all the years this gent had worked for the Commission, he never
>>>> called
>>>> on
>>>> a ham QSA operating under 30 MHz.
>>>>
>>>> YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> 73DG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Bernie Doran
>>>> <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Really! what was the last time you heard of them doing that?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Neal Newman" <cozy659 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>>>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM power
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> YES THEY DO...
>>>>>
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