From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Sun Sep  5 07:43:23 2010
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 06:43:23 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Peoria Superfest 2010
Message-ID: <003a01cb4cf0$49b2aea0$6a01a8c0@KWM380>

Peoria Superfest 2010

(An ARRL Sanctioned Hamfest)
Amateur Radio Hamfest, Computer Show and Flea Market
September 18,19 2010
Exposition Gardens, Peoria IL
Northmoor and University Streets
(off 6300 Block of N. University)
Friday Hours 3pm - Dusk
Sat 6:00am - 4:00pm
Sun 6:00am - 1:00pm
Commercial Buildings Open to the Public at 8:00am Sat & Sunday

GPS Coordnates: 40 deg 45 min 47 sec N, 89 deg 37 min 04 sec W

Please check www.peoriasuperfest.com for the latest information on Peoria
Superfest.



Advance tickets ($6 each) and Flea Market spaces ($5 each) can be purchased 
on-line until September 10.

You may change them via Paypal, or use a credit card via Paypal.  See 
www.peoriasuperfest.com.

Tickets will be $8 at the gate.  Flea Market spaces will be $5 at the gate.



Commercial (indoor) tables are still available in the Opera House (ticket 
barrel building).  Contact w9uvi at arrl.net with your needs.

Forums Saturday (in the Ameren-CILCO Building):
9 am - OPEN; perhaps related to Hams and EMA's, and Weather Spotting
Activities
10 am - ARRL ARES & RACES activities in Illinois
11 am - ARRL Forum, with Dick Isely, W9GIG, Central Division Director, and
other ARRL Officers; a Q&A session on what ARRL is doing for Hams.
12:30 - D-STAR Forum, with Mark Thompson,
1:30 pm - OPEN, but may be a Scanner & Listeners Forum


New this year -- Special Raffles for a D-STAR portable, and for a Kenwood
TS-2000 HF rig. Tickets will be limited to 150 max for each raffle; $5
tickets for the D-STAR radio; $20 tickets for the TS-2000. Sales will begin
at 1 pm on Friday on the grounds, with the drawings probably mid-day
Saturday. (Hourly and Grand and 1st Place prize drawings will take place as
usual, based on regular admission tickets.)

Check www.peoriasuperfest.com as the time nears, for the latest information 
on Peoria
Superfest, including hotel and restaurant information.


From navy.radio at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 14:32:16 2010
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:32:16 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby hamfest photos
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=uwaqySprJa+y6kYUF3uDXX7JeVCZFSAbwfnER@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW
http://www.virhistory.com/shelby_2010.htm

See you there next year!
Nick K4NYW

From wrl at gwltd.com  Wed Sep  8 23:07:32 2010
From: wrl at gwltd.com (Dave Mayfield W9WRL)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:07:32 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?
Message-ID: <4C884F74.5070507@gwltd.com>

Howdy guys, I'm trying to help a TV production company in locating an 
Enigma code Machine for an upcoming TV show on USA network. Anyone have 
one, know of one for sale, rent, loan.

I just sent them a Heathkit HW-12 for a upcoming episode of White collar 
on USA network.. Should be interesting to see what they do with it, 
perhaps they will use it to locate enemy subs or something such. What 
ever it is I'm sure it will be used incorrectly. But it will be a hoot 
to see my radio on a TV show.

Any way if you have or know of an Enigma let me know and I will put you 
in touch with them, it's a long shot I know.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

From tchesek at epix.net  Thu Sep  9 07:41:54 2010
From: tchesek at epix.net (Tom Chesek)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:41:54 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?
References: <4C884F74.5070507@gwltd.com>
Message-ID: <2705CD9F7E6A4C2D892F1FD588618C08@bonton01.bonton.com>

I can't speak for Tom Perera, W1TP, but he is an expert on these machines 
and has several of his own.  Check out his website and contact him with your 
request. His email address is listed at the bottom of his webpage. 
www.w1tp.com

Tom K3TVC


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Mayfield W9WRL" <wrl at gwltd.com>
To: <AMRadio at mailman.qth.net>; "Tom Laird" <w9qi at arrl.net>; "w0kh Frank 
Baker" <franklinbaker at mchsi.com>; "Terry Nixon" <tlnixon357 at gmail.com>; 
"Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>; "Walt" <hollingw at geneseo.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:07 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?


> Howdy guys, I'm trying to help a TV production company in locating an
> Enigma code Machine for an upcoming TV show on USA network. Anyone have
> one, know of one for sale, rent, loan.
>
> I just sent them a Heathkit HW-12 for a upcoming episode of White collar
> on USA network.. Should be interesting to see what they do with it,
> perhaps they will use it to locate enemy subs or something such. What
> ever it is I'm sure it will be used incorrectly. But it will be a hoot
> to see my radio on a TV show.
>
> Any way if you have or know of an Enigma let me know and I will put you
> in touch with them, it's a long shot I know.
>
> 73 Dave W9WRL.com
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 08:22:51 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:22:51 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?
In-Reply-To: <2705CD9F7E6A4C2D892F1FD588618C08@bonton01.bonton.com>
References: <4C884F74.5070507@gwltd.com>
	<2705CD9F7E6A4C2D892F1FD588618C08@bonton01.bonton.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVFxWB==d9D3o+gU8TkfwTcBxM6Uxy494Gz8YJ@mail.gmail.com>

There is some guy at Dayton flea market every year with a big CW
display, lots of vintage gear under (plexi)glass and I think he has
had code machines like Enigma on display.  Unfortunately I can't
remember anything else about him but he is always there.  Maybe
someone else knows who I am writing about.

Rob
K5UJ

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Tom Chesek <tchesek at epix.net> wrote:
> I can't speak for Tom Perera, W1TP, but he is an expert on these machines
> and has several of his own. ?Check out his website and contact him with your
> request. His email address is listed at the bottom of his webpage.
> www.w1tp.com
>
> Tom K3TVC
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Mayfield W9WRL" <wrl at gwltd.com>
> To: <AMRadio at mailman.qth.net>; "Tom Laird" <w9qi at arrl.net>; "w0kh Frank
> Baker" <franklinbaker at mchsi.com>; "Terry Nixon" <tlnixon357 at gmail.com>;
> "Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>; "Walt" <hollingw at geneseo.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:07 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?
>
>
>> Howdy guys, I'm trying to help a TV production company in locating an
>> Enigma code Machine for an upcoming TV show on USA network. Anyone have
>> one, know of one for sale, rent, loan.
>>
>> I just sent them a Heathkit HW-12 for a upcoming episode of White collar
>> on USA network.. Should be interesting to see what they do with it,
>> perhaps they will use it to locate enemy subs or something such. What
>> ever it is I'm sure it will be used incorrectly. But it will be a hoot
>> to see my radio on a TV show.
>>
>> Any way if you have or know of an Enigma let me know and I will put you
>> in touch with them, it's a long shot I know.
>>
>> 73 Dave W9WRL.com
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 10:34:38 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:34:38 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinVFxWB==d9D3o+gU8TkfwTcBxM6Uxy494Gz8YJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C884F74.5070507@gwltd.com>
	<2705CD9F7E6A4C2D892F1FD588618C08@bonton01.bonton.com>
	<AANLkTinVFxWB==d9D3o+gU8TkfwTcBxM6Uxy494Gz8YJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmUX7h+TJ_CF_NL4M0Hwk3=YzXU2hr5fT5YFKi@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is some guy at Dayton flea market every year with a big CW
> display, lots of vintage gear under (plexi)glass and I think he has
> had code machines like Enigma on display. ?Unfortunately I can't
> remember anything else about him but he is always there. ?Maybe
> someone else knows who I am writing about.

That's Tom. He's been doing the CW thing for years and developed an
interest and later, collection of Enigma machines over the last
decade. He was our first confirmed key note speaker when we started
NEAR-Fest in 2007, I asked him at Dayton oddly enough.

Tom has done some movie work before, including a bit where he dressed
like Walter Winchell to recreate a famous photo, which was used to
promote a HBO special about Winchell back in '98.

http://chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/mww.htm

You can contact him via his site. If you have any trouble, let me know
and I'll send him your email info Dave.I'm sure he'd be willing to
work something out for use of an Enigma machine, though it might
require his presence. It's not the kind of thing you just drop in the
mail and say 'send it back when you're done'.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From ne1s at securespeed.us  Thu Sep  9 14:39:32 2010
From: ne1s at securespeed.us (Larry Szendrei)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:39:32 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Enigma?
In-Reply-To: <4C884F74.5070507@gwltd.com>
References: <4C884F74.5070507@gwltd.com>
Message-ID: <4C8929E4.8060309@securespeed.us>

  Try W1TP, Tom Perrera. He may be willing to rent or lend one from his 
collection.

73,
-Larry/NE1S

On 9/8/2010 11:07 PM, Dave Mayfield W9WRL wrote:
> Howdy guys, I'm trying to help a TV production company in locating an
> Enigma code Machine for an upcoming TV show on USA network. Anyone have
> one, know of one for sale, rent, loan.
>
> I just sent them a Heathkit HW-12 for a upcoming episode of White collar
> on USA network.. Should be interesting to see what they do with it,
> perhaps they will use it to locate enemy subs or something such. What
> ever it is I'm sure it will be used incorrectly. But it will be a hoot
> to see my radio on a TV show.
>
> Any way if you have or know of an Enigma let me know and I will put you
> in touch with them, it's a long shot I know.
>
> 73 Dave W9WRL.com
> ______________________________________________________________
>


From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 15:43:12 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:43:12 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Testing 845 Tubes
Message-ID: <AANLkTimb8AY=bRdbBdto4POzgxWaxQR=LeHQq5pmrz-N@mail.gmail.com>

Please excuse the multiple list coverage -

In sorting through and clearing out excess radio stuff, I've come
across a stash of these tubes from many years ago. Some are supposedly
NOS, a few are clearly labeled as used. Most are RCA, some that appear
new are Amperex.

How does one go about testing these big bottles in a simple but
reliable fashion? I don't have a transmitter or audio amp to pop them
into to test thoroughly, which limits me to checking for the obvious:
continuity, opens, or direct shorts.

I've passed a few of the used examples to friends over the years with
zero problems, but times have changed and I'd feel better being able
to more accurately describe what I'm selling.

Barring a method to check them myself, is there anyone around Raleigh
NC with a rig I could test these in? Happy to pay a 'per tube' fee, of
course.

TNX -

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From farrerfolks at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  9 16:23:22 2010
From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Testing 845 Tubes
Message-ID: <146578.8663.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello,

Well, I have had good results with the following reactivation setup.? Very simple. According to my old RCA transmitting tube manual, it takes 10 VAC/DC at 3.25 A.? The max plate current is rated at 120 mA.? So adjust the voltage in the setup accordingly.? Good Luck.

Mel, K6KBE



--- On Thu, 9/9/10, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
Subject: [AMRadio] Testing 845 Tubes
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>, "Boatanchors" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>, "BOATANCHORS" <BOATANCHORS at lists.tempe.gov>
Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 12:43 PM

Please excuse the multiple list coverage -

In sorting through and clearing out excess radio stuff, I've come
across a stash of these tubes from many years ago. Some are supposedly
NOS, a few are clearly labeled as used. Most are RCA, some that appear
new are Amperex.

How does one go about testing these big bottles in a simple but
reliable fashion? I don't have a transmitter or audio amp to pop them
into to test thoroughly, which limits me to checking for the obvious:
continuity, opens, or direct shorts.

I've passed a few of the used examples to friends over the years with
zero problems, but times have changed and I'd feel better being able
to more accurately describe what I'm selling.

Barring a method to check them myself, is there anyone around Raleigh
NC with a rig I could test these in? Happy to pay a 'per tube' fee, of
course.

TNX -

~ Todd,? KA1KAQ/4
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From dennisgilliam at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 17:22:11 2010
From: dennisgilliam at gmail.com (Dennis Gilliam)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:22:11 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Testing 845 Tubes
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimb8AY=bRdbBdto4POzgxWaxQR=LeHQq5pmrz-N@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimb8AY=bRdbBdto4POzgxWaxQR=LeHQq5pmrz-N@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZfYp9tx8RxkGSfTor8sc5WCpGcHrnPm_gRGOX@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Todd,

I'd be happy to test them free for you.  I have a DIY tester that can
run big tubes at up to 1600 Volts at half an amp, and can check for
gas, eTc.  I call it 'The Judge'

It might be a bit to ship them, I am in AZ 85139

73 DG W7TFO

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please excuse the multiple list coverage -
>
> In sorting through and clearing out excess radio stuff, I've come
> across a stash of these tubes from many years ago. Some are supposedly
> NOS, a few are clearly labeled as used. Most are RCA, some that appear
> new are Amperex.
>
> How does one go about testing these big bottles in a simple but
> reliable fashion? I don't have a transmitter or audio amp to pop them
> into to test thoroughly, which limits me to checking for the obvious:
> continuity, opens, or direct shorts.
>
> I've passed a few of the used examples to friends over the years with
> zero problems, but times have changed and I'd feel better being able
> to more accurately describe what I'm selling.
>
> Barring a method to check them myself, is there anyone around Raleigh
> NC with a rig I could test these in? Happy to pay a 'per tube' fee, of
> course.
>
> TNX -
>
> ~ Todd, ?KA1KAQ/4
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 20:32:56 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:32:56 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] [Boatanchors] Testing 845 Tubes
In-Reply-To: <015c01cb5078$3816b160$6501a8c0@DAVES>
References: <AANLkTimb8AY=bRdbBdto4POzgxWaxQR=LeHQq5pmrz-N@mail.gmail.com>
	<015c01cb5078$3816b160$6501a8c0@DAVES>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimTsLexsupT6nq93XLqV6VK+7cW8mCHjNjWAhq-@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all for the ideas and offers to test these tubes. I'm
reluctant to send them through the mail anymore than once to the new
owner. Just can't see USPS wanting to pay out a claim for hundreds of
dollars for a broken tube, I'm sure they'd find a way out of it.

Forgot the 211 connection, I get lost between the 211/VT-4/845 types
and interchangeability. Should be someone around here with a BC-375 or
191 on the air.

> Put em on Fleabay with a filaments OK and appear NOS notation and let the
> audiofools fight it out. With the money you make you can treat us all at the
> AM dinner.....

That's pretty much the case so far for the few I've checked, Carl.
Glass looks clean and clear, filament continuity on pins 2 & 4, no
continuity with other pins. But I'm fine with assuming they might have
been used lightly or, at least, run for testing purposes at some point
so as to make them less-than-new. Even clean, used US examples bring
2-3 times more than the new Chinese knock offs it seems. I don't
expect to retire from the proceeds, they just need to find a new home.
It's like having boxes laying around with money in them that you could
be using for other stuff.

You can bet you'll be covered at the AM Dinner. Wouldn't have it any
other way. You're our invited guest, after all!

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From kf0xo-1 at msn.com  Thu Sep  9 21:43:30 2010
From: kf0xo-1 at msn.com (kf0xo-1 at msn.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:43:30 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby hamfest photos
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=uwaqySprJa+y6kYUF3uDXX7JeVCZFSAbwfnER@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=uwaqySprJa+y6kYUF3uDXX7JeVCZFSAbwfnER@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU140-W347CBB5F2B53D9B815BD52F3740@phx.gbl>


Wow! I live in SD and we  don't have swap meets like this! Thanks for posting the pictures I rely enjoyed them.

> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:32:16 -0400
> From: navy.radio at gmail.com
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby hamfest photos
> 
> FWIW
> http://www.virhistory.com/shelby_2010.htm
> 
> See you there next year!
> Nick K4NYW
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Fri Sep 10 10:26:34 2010
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:26:34 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby hamfest photos
In-Reply-To: <BLU140-W347CBB5F2B53D9B815BD52F3740@phx.gbl>
References: <AANLkTi=uwaqySprJa+y6kYUF3uDXX7JeVCZFSAbwfnER@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU140-W347CBB5F2B53D9B815BD52F3740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik2Tdnma9uKCWE9aZ_XxtDVLPHm9BMm=oqxLemK@mail.gmail.com>

The rest of ours aren't like this either! Shelby is one of the largest
in the country (maybe second to Dayton?) and attracts folks from
Florida to Michigan. Glad you enjoyed the photos.
73 & Have Fun,
Nick K4NYW

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:43 PM,  <kf0xo-1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Wow! I live in SD and we ?don't have swap meets like this! Thanks for posting the pictures I rely enjoyed them.
>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:32:16 -0400
>> From: navy.radio at gmail.com
>> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby hamfest photos
>>
>> FWIW
>> http://www.virhistory.com/shelby_2010.htm
>>
>> See you there next year!
>> Nick K4NYW

From jmac6235 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 10 21:52:32 2010
From: jmac6235 at yahoo.com (J.D. MacAulay, WQ8U)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:52:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] CX is this Sunday! - and next Sunday too!
Message-ID: <696089.89400.qm@web112606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The Classic Exchange (CX) is an on-the-air contest celebrating ?those wonderful old rigs that were the?pride and joy?of ham shacks decades ago. ?Boat Anchors?have a distinct scoring advantage however modern rigs are welcome.??The CW CX will Be?September 12?& 13The Phone CX will be?September 19?& 20.
The details?as well as the CX?Newsletter?for the February 2010 CX are posted on the ?NEW?CX WEBSITE????www.classicexchange.org
The old website is not up to date and is being shut down.
The August 2010 edition of?ELECTRIC RADIO?magazine?also has details of the event.

73 and hope to work you in the CX,MacWQ8UHillsborough, NCCX Newsletter Editor



      

From normsclassicradio at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 10:21:44 2010
From: normsclassicradio at yahoo.com (Norm Palin K7NCR)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
Message-ID: <568970.91073.qm@web56308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

http://www.vbh8.xmedx.com


      


From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 19:15:18 2010
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
Message-ID: <478710.76197.qm@web53207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC, for many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.

I think we are the kings of hamfests not where they are.  We have the Asheville hamfest in Weaverville, the Greenville hamfest in Spartanburg, and now the Shelby hamfest in Dallas.

Charlie, W4MEC in NC


      

From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Sat Sep 11 23:05:56 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:05:56 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
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Charlie, when is the Asheville (Weaverville) hamfest?  tnx  I might
have to schedule my visit to my brother who lives in Weaverville for
that weekend.

rob
K5UJ

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC, for many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.
>
> I think we are the kings of hamfests not where they are. ?We have the Asheville hamfest in Weaverville, the Greenville hamfest in Spartanburg, and now the Shelby hamfest in Dallas.
>
> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
>
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sat Sep 11 23:12:12 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:12:12 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
Message-ID: <00a001cb5228$4c471f10$e4d55d30$@net>

 

Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys  LOL

 

Bob W1PE


From W4AWM at aol.com  Sat Sep 11 23:57:37 2010
From: W4AWM at aol.com (W4AWM at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:57:37 EDT
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
Message-ID: <a6f3e.74227dae.39bda9b1@aol.com>

On XLs, Pin 1 us the normal default ground.
 
 
 
73,  John,  W4AWM
 
 
In a message dated 9/11/2010 8:13:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rwpeters at swbell.net writes:



Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR  ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and  ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys   LOL



Bob  W1PE



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From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
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Hey Bob and the group.?Some good info here an many pin outs.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html


September 11, 2001



--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net> wrote:

From: Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 10:12 PM

 

Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys? LOL

 

Bob W1PE


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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:23:00 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 80, Issue 6
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I believe the 4 pin XLR question can be found on this page:

http://www.qsl.net/g4wpw/date.html

73, Dick / K1DPM 

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
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Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC, for
many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.

I think we are the kings of hamfests not where they are.  We have the
Asheville hamfest in Weaverville, the Greenville hamfest in Spartanburg, and
now the Shelby hamfest in Dallas.

Charlie, W4MEC in NC


      


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:05:56 -0500
From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
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Charlie, when is the Asheville (Weaverville) hamfest?  tnx  I might have to
schedule my visit to my brother who lives in Weaverville for that weekend.

rob
K5UJ

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC,
for many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.
>
> I think we are the kings of hamfests not where they are. ?We have the
Asheville hamfest in Weaverville, the Greenville hamfest in Spartanburg, and
now the Shelby hamfest in Dallas.
>
> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:12:12 -0500
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'"
	<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <00a001cb5228$4c471f10$e4d55d30$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 

Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys  LOL

 

Bob W1PE


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:57:37 EDT
From: W4AWM at aol.com
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

On XLs, Pin 1 us the normal default ground.
 
 
 
73,  John,  W4AWM
 
 
In a message dated 9/11/2010 8:13:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rwpeters at swbell.net writes:



Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR  ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and  ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys   LOL



Bob  W1PE



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
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Hey Bob and the group.?Some good info here an many pin outs.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html


September 11, 2001



--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net> wrote:

From: Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'"
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 10:12 PM

 

Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys? LOL

 

Bob W1PE


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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sun Sep 12 12:24:43 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:24:43 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
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On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC, for many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.

Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it should come
as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it can
actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much rather
wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or tables
of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number of
those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far more
annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some nice
boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy gear,
and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.

If you want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
gear, head north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
a point to keep out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
sneak in, we make sure they don't come back. And no vehicles are
allowed on the ground after set up except for the handicapped or
hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as Shelby but not as many
gaps, with a lot less 11m gear.  (o:

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sun Sep 12 12:51:07 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:51:07 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 80, Issue 6
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That is what I thought as well and it is there but does not show the heil
pinout... I think that I got it by ringing it out... Good to see you back
active Dick... 
Are you back on the air??? Have not heard from you in ages...Have you
changed your e mail adr???

Bob W1PE

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I believe the 4 pin XLR question can be found on this page:

http://www.qsl.net/g4wpw/date.html

73, Dick / K1DPM 

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC, for
many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.

I think we are the kings of hamfests not where they are.  We have the
Asheville hamfest in Weaverville, the Greenville hamfest in Spartanburg, and
now the Shelby hamfest in Dallas.

Charlie, W4MEC in NC


      


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:05:56 -0500
From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
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Charlie, when is the Asheville (Weaverville) hamfest?  tnx  I might have to
schedule my visit to my brother who lives in Weaverville for that weekend.

rob
K5UJ

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC,
for many years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a hamfest.
>
> I think we are the kings of hamfests not where they are. ?We have the
Asheville hamfest in Weaverville, the Greenville hamfest in Spartanburg, and
now the Shelby hamfest in Dallas.
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> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:12:12 -0500
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'"
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 

Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys  LOL

 

Bob W1PE


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:57:37 EDT
From: W4AWM at aol.com
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <a6f3e.74227dae.39bda9b1 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

On XLs, Pin 1 us the normal default ground.
 
 
 
73,  John,  W4AWM
 
 
In a message dated 9/11/2010 8:13:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rwpeters at swbell.net writes:



Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR  ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and  ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys   LOL



Bob  W1PE



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
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Hey Bob and the group.?Some good info here an many pin outs.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html


September 11, 2001



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From: Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 PIN XLR
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'"
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 10:12 PM

 

Does anyone know what the pin out is on the Heil 4 Pin XLR ??? I need to
convert the 4 pin to a 3 pin XLR.So what is hot cold and ground on the 4
pin????

Thanks to the smart guys? LOL

 

Bob W1PE


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From W4AWM at aol.com  Sun Sep 12 13:29:33 2010
From: W4AWM at aol.com (W4AWM at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:29:33 EDT
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
Message-ID: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>

Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer!  Do the food venders sell Moon  Pies 
and RCs?
 
73,
 
John,  W4AWM
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/12/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ka1kaq at gmail.com writes:

On Sat,  Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not  to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC, 
for many  years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a  hamfest.

Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it  should come
as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it  can
actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much  rather
wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or  tables
of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number  of
those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far  more
annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some  nice
boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy  gear,
and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.

If you  want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
gear, head  north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
a point to keep  out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
sneak in, we make sure  they don't come back. And no vehicles are
allowed on the ground after set  up except for the handicapped or
hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as  Shelby but not as many
gaps, with a lot less 11m gear.  (o:

~  Todd,   KA1KAQ/4
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Sun Sep 12 20:26:26 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:26:26 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 pin XLR pinout
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpiakYUXOLTgqVDSbt3-toNNEk8Njqv-oJyyye@mail.gmail.com>

Bob, why don't you call or email Bob Heil and ask him.  He won't mind,
or someone there will help you if he isn't around.

73

Rob
K5UJ

From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Sun Sep 12 20:30:27 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:30:27 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=iRhtaRgB-HKaee+291UpPF0LzBqeXxM+XJj_L@mail.gmail.com>

The CB rigs from the 60s and earlier that had xtal pairs for every
channel and glowed in the dark are kind of interesting to look at.
The solid state PLL stuff can stay at home.

Rob
K5UJ

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM,  <W4AWM at aol.com> wrote:
> Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer! ?Do the food venders sell Moon ?Pies
> and RCs?
>
> 73,
>
> John, ?W4AWM
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/12/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> ka1kaq at gmail.com writes:
>
> On Sat, ?Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Not ?to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby NC,
> for many ?years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a ?hamfest.
>
> Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it ?should come
> as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it ?can
> actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much ?rather
> wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or ?tables
> of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number ?of
> those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far ?more
> annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some ?nice
> boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy ?gear,
> and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.
>
> If you ?want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
> gear, head ?north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
> a point to keep ?out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
> sneak in, we make sure ?they don't come back. And no vehicles are
> allowed on the ground after set ?up except for the handicapped or
> hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as ?Shelby but not as many
> gaps, with a lot less 11m gear. ?(o:
>
> ~ ?Todd, ? KA1KAQ/4
> ______________________________________________________________
>

From crawfish at surfmore.net  Sun Sep 12 20:57:00 2010
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (crawfish at surfmore.net)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:57:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=iRhtaRgB-HKaee+291UpPF0LzBqeXxM+XJj_L@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
	<AANLkTi=iRhtaRgB-HKaee+291UpPF0LzBqeXxM+XJj_L@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1396.208.86.68.68.1284339420.squirrel@webmail.surfmore.net>

The tube type CB's can be improved by converting them to 10m AM phone.
Ditto on what Rob said.
                                                    Joe W4AAB

> The CB rigs from the 60s and earlier that had xtal pairs for every
> channel and glowed in the dark are kind of interesting to look at.
> The solid state PLL stuff can stay at home.
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM,  <W4AWM at aol.com> wrote:
>> Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer! ?Do the food venders sell Moon
>> ?Pies
>> and RCs?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John, ?W4AWM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/12/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> ka1kaq at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> On Sat, ?Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC <mjcal77 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Not ?to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby
>>> NC,
>> for many ?years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a
>> ?hamfest.
>>
>> Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it ?should come
>> as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it ?can
>> actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much ?rather
>> wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or ?tables
>> of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number ?of
>> those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far ?more
>> annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some ?nice
>> boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy ?gear,
>> and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.
>>
>> If you ?want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
>> gear, head ?north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
>> a point to keep ?out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
>> sneak in, we make sure ?they don't come back. And no vehicles are
>> allowed on the ground after set ?up except for the handicapped or
>> hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as ?Shelby but not as many
>> gaps, with a lot less 11m gear. ?(o:
>>
>> ~ ?Todd, ? KA1KAQ/4
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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From w4rl at bellsouth.net  Sun Sep 12 21:28:25 2010
From: w4rl at bellsouth.net (Robert Lawson)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:28:25 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <1396.208.86.68.68.1284339420.squirrel@webmail.surfmore.net>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>	<AANLkTi=iRhtaRgB-HKaee+291UpPF0LzBqeXxM+XJj_L@mail.gmail.com>
	<1396.208.86.68.68.1284339420.squirrel@webmail.surfmore.net>
Message-ID: <4C8D7E39.3080603@bellsouth.net>

  And when a pre-teen Boy Scout, there was a lot more advertising about 
CB than ham radio.  I read an ad in Boy's Life magazine about CB radio 
and getting into electronics, and I went for it like a bear on honey.  
It was my entry into wireless communications in 1962 with my father 
applying for the FCC CB license.  From such in 1964 and the Popular 
Electronics "Novice Column" I obtained my Novice license WN4VDZ on my 
own studying the Ameco Novice Study Guide text.  The rest is history.  
So yes, I do enjoy plying over the old tube CB rigs at hamfest.  Such 
good memories.  And yes, I've converted some to 10 meters.   It was a 
different (radio) world back then.

And add to the fact that lots of us ol'timers have scarfed off the face 
of the Earth in recent years the supply of Ham Radio boatanchors now 
piled in storage awaiting our bench projects.  The prices for them now 
has soared with same collectors realizing they ain't gonna get to'em all 
on the bench at their age and also the gear's weight.  And now with some 
of the misconceived thought that they're as priceless as gold bars 
begrudgingly attempt to sell them off at sky high prices thus preserving 
their image as smart investors in the hobby.

For me, all I want to attempt to do in selling off my stash is to come 
close to breaking even and call it a happy ending day, and then go 
fishing with my grandson.   Things change you know regardless.

Ham Radio for most of us is not a for profit hobby.  It's just a hobby 
with the chance to provide public service.  Think of it as a non-profit 
hobby venture and enjoy the chance in having discovered it.   Don't 
allow it to be a stubborn load carried upon your back.  Share your 
initial thrill of Ham Radio and it's so important history.

Regards,

Robert W4RL Pensacola FL



On 9/12/2010 7:57 PM, crawfish at surfmore.net wrote:
> The tube type CB's can be improved by converting them to 10m AM phone.
> Ditto on what Rob said.
>                                                      Joe W4AAB
>
>> The CB rigs from the 60s and earlier that had xtal pairs for every
>> channel and glowed in the dark are kind of interesting to look at.
>> The solid state PLL stuff can stay at home.
>>
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM,<W4AWM at aol.com>  wrote:
>>> Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer!  Do the food venders sell Moon
>>>   Pies
>>> and RCs?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> John,  W4AWM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 9/12/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> ka1kaq at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> On Sat,  Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC<mjcal77 at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>>> Not  to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby
>>>> NC,
>>> for many  years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a
>>>   hamfest.
>>>
>>> Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it  should come
>>> as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it  can
>>> actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much  rather
>>> wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or  tables
>>> of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number  of
>>> those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far  more
>>> annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some  nice
>>> boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy  gear,
>>> and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.
>>>
>>> If you  want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
>>> gear, head  north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
>>> a point to keep  out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
>>> sneak in, we make sure  they don't come back. And no vehicles are
>>> allowed on the ground after set  up except for the handicapped or
>>> hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as  Shelby but not as many
>>> gaps, with a lot less 11m gear.  (o:
>>>
>>> ~  Todd,   KA1KAQ/4
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sun Sep 12 22:41:00 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:41:00 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com>

Hey! You're several hours closer than me, John. I make the trip over
three days, with stops along the way. First VA (MD this fall), then
Long Island, then NH. Leave here Tuesday, arrive at the motel Thursday
night in order to be there to open the gates Friday. Warren W1GUD
travels up from Tampa with a crew of Florida guys, and we have a
fellow who comes to sell each time all the way from 6 Land because he
enjoys the 'fest so much.

The two big things up that way are some kinda sausage sandwich and
apple crisp with ice cream. I avoid the former and greatly enjoy the
latter. Haven't seen RC in yars! We also have an AM breakfast Friday
morning at a nearby diner before heading over, and the infamous AM
Dinner on Friday night. Food is as much a part of the event as the
friends and radio gear, after all.

You'll make it up one of these days and ask yourself "why did I wait so long??"

~ Todd/KAQ

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:29 PM,  <W4AWM at aol.com> wrote:
> Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer! ?Do the food venders sell Moon ?Pies
> and RCs?
>
> 73,
>
> John, ?W4AWM

From W4AWM at aol.com  Sun Sep 12 23:09:32 2010
From: W4AWM at aol.com (W4AWM at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:09:32 EDT
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
Message-ID: <458de.267e4034.39beefec@aol.com>

Maybe some day.
 
73,
 
John

From sbjohnston at aol.com  Mon Sep 13 09:24:30 2010
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:24:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 pin XLR pinout
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpiakYUXOLTgqVDSbt3-toNNEk8Njqv-oJyyye@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpiakYUXOLTgqVDSbt3-toNNEk8Njqv-oJyyye@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CD215E21B2F5EA-620-2993B@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>


Here's what is shown on the G4WPW microphone pinout page

Heil HM-10 DUAL, GM-4,GM-5,GMV. HANDIMIC-HM-4, HM-5, HM-iC, HM-PRO. 
CLASSIC.
4 PIN XLR PLUG
    PIN 1    GROUND/SHIELD.
    PIN 2    MIC.
    PIN 3/4  PTT.


Steve  WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 12, 2010 7:26 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 pin XLR pinout


Bob, why don't you call or email Bob Heil and ask him.  He won't mind,
or someone there will help you if he isn't around.

73

Rob
K5UJ
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From ranickel at comcast.net  Mon Sep 13 10:18:37 2010
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:18:37 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
	<AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>

  On 9/12/2010 9:41 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
> Food is as much a part of the event as the
> friends and radio gear, after all.
I guess I can't let that line pass without mentioning that the Peoria 
Hamfest and Chow-a-Thon is this coming weekend!   If any AM'ers are 
planning to attend and haven't already heard from Larry WA9VRH, let me 
know, as we can probably still get you in on the Sat. night Smoked Prime 
Rib Dinner and Sunday morning Champagne Breakfast

It's sure nice of the radio club to hold a hamfest the same weekend as 
our get-together - gives us something to do between meals ;-)

73, Bob W9RAN


From rwpeters at swbell.net  Mon Sep 13 10:26:36 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:26:36 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>	<AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000f01cb534f$ad01a8c0$0704fa40$@net>

Now that is my idea of a hamfest... Smoked Rib and Champagne breakfast...
WOW do I wish I could make it add a few more pounds to my 350 lb body  LOL

Bob W1PE

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Nickels
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:19 AM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest

  On 9/12/2010 9:41 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
> Food is as much a part of the event as the
> friends and radio gear, after all.
I guess I can't let that line pass without mentioning that the Peoria 
Hamfest and Chow-a-Thon is this coming weekend!   If any AM'ers are 
planning to attend and haven't already heard from Larry WA9VRH, let me 
know, as we can probably still get you in on the Sat. night Smoked Prime 
Rib Dinner and Sunday morning Champagne Breakfast

It's sure nice of the radio club to hold a hamfest the same weekend as 
our get-together - gives us something to do between meals ;-)

73, Bob W9RAN

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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 10:55:47 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:55:47 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
	<AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinY7RpoeW+zhuaRS0csfBLCDjB=RrsQJKsW85Us@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Robert Nickels <ranickel at comcast.net> wrote:

> I guess I can't let that line pass without mentioning that the Peoria
> Hamfest and Chow-a-Thon is this coming weekend! ? If any AM'ers are
> planning to attend and haven't already heard from Larry WA9VRH, let me
> know, as we can probably still get you in on the Sat. night Smoked Prime
> Rib Dinner and Sunday morning Champagne Breakfast

It's on my list of Things to Do, Bob. Had hoped to make it out this
year but still trying to sell the other house. Maybe in a couple more
years when things settle down domestically and economically. I've
heard nothing but good things about the event and been envious every
time!

~ Todd/KAQ

From ranickel at comcast.net  Mon Sep 13 15:51:59 2010
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:51:59 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 4 pin XLR pinout
In-Reply-To: <8CD215E21B2F5EA-620-2993B@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTimpiakYUXOLTgqVDSbt3-toNNEk8Njqv-oJyyye@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CD215E21B2F5EA-620-2993B@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C8E80DF.8090702@comcast.net>

  FYI, Mouser can supply the mating 4-pin XLR to mate with Heil mics - 
p/n 800-0400

73, Bob W9RAN

From Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net  Mon Sep 13 20:13:12 2010
From: Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net (Brett Gazdzinski)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:13:12 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <4C8D7E39.3080603@bellsouth.net>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>
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	<4C8D7E39.3080603@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <44D1D864DC8C4C43B9D6F476DD6F62BA@brettPC>

I started radio with one of those CB boxes radio shack used to sell.
It was tunable receive, ch 14 transmit, 100mw output, with built in code 
key!

I added a light behind the tuning dial, and worked some friends with walkie 
talkies a block away.

Not knowing anything, we all thought the trick setup was a coat hanger 
hanging from the gutter fed by a wire. SWR?
It was a long time till I got something better, a 6 channel 5 watt Lafayette 
rig that was very poor.

CB was civilized, and I enjoyed working some of the older guys around the 
hood.
I lusted after the tube rigs, teabury (copy of something else?) with meters 
and mic gain and everything!

I still have an attraction to the rigs, and in some parts of the country, 
its still nice, around here its all CB jive talk.
Other then something like wifi/4g, radio is a dead wasteland besides ham AM 
and CW.


Brett
N2DTS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Lawson" <w4rl at bellsouth.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest


>  And when a pre-teen Boy Scout, there was a lot more advertising about
> CB than ham radio.  I read an ad in Boy's Life magazine about CB radio
> and getting into electronics, and I went for it like a bear on honey.
> It was my entry into wireless communications in 1962 with my father
> applying for the FCC CB license.  From such in 1964 and the Popular
> Electronics "Novice Column" I obtained my Novice license WN4VDZ on my
> own studying the Ameco Novice Study Guide text.  The rest is history.
> So yes, I do enjoy plying over the old tube CB rigs at hamfest.  Such
> good memories.  And yes, I've converted some to 10 meters.   It was a
> different (radio) world back then.
>
> And add to the fact that lots of us ol'timers have scarfed off the face
> of the Earth in recent years the supply of Ham Radio boatanchors now
> piled in storage awaiting our bench projects.  The prices for them now
> has soared with same collectors realizing they ain't gonna get to'em all
> on the bench at their age and also the gear's weight.  And now with some
> of the misconceived thought that they're as priceless as gold bars
> begrudgingly attempt to sell them off at sky high prices thus preserving
> their image as smart investors in the hobby.
>
> For me, all I want to attempt to do in selling off my stash is to come
> close to breaking even and call it a happy ending day, and then go
> fishing with my grandson.   Things change you know regardless.
>
> Ham Radio for most of us is not a for profit hobby.  It's just a hobby
> with the chance to provide public service.  Think of it as a non-profit
> hobby venture and enjoy the chance in having discovered it.   Don't
> allow it to be a stubborn load carried upon your back.  Share your
> initial thrill of Ham Radio and it's so important history.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert W4RL Pensacola FL
>
>
>
> On 9/12/2010 7:57 PM, crawfish at surfmore.net wrote:
>> The tube type CB's can be improved by converting them to 10m AM phone.
>> Ditto on what Rob said.
>>                                                      Joe W4AAB
>>
>>> The CB rigs from the 60s and earlier that had xtal pairs for every
>>> channel and glowed in the dark are kind of interesting to look at.
>>> The solid state PLL stuff can stay at home.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>> K5UJ
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM,<W4AWM at aol.com>  wrote:
>>>> Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer!  Do the food venders sell Moon
>>>>   Pies
>>>> and RCs?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> John,  W4AWM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 9/12/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>> ka1kaq at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat,  Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC<mjcal77 at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Not  to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby
>>>>> NC,
>>>> for many  years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a
>>>>   hamfest.
>>>>
>>>> Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it  should come
>>>> as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it  can
>>>> actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much  rather
>>>> wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or  tables
>>>> of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number  of
>>>> those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far  more
>>>> annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some  nice
>>>> boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy  gear,
>>>> and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.
>>>>
>>>> If you  want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
>>>> gear, head  north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
>>>> a point to keep  out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
>>>> sneak in, we make sure  they don't come back. And no vehicles are
>>>> allowed on the ground after set  up except for the handicapped or
>>>> hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as  Shelby but not as many
>>>> gaps, with a lot less 11m gear.  (o:
>>>>
>>>> ~  Todd,   KA1KAQ/4
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>
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From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Mon Sep 13 20:14:48 2010
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:14:48 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com><AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com><4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>
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Hi Todd,
You are certainly welcome any time as well as any other members of the 
group. We have been doing this at Peoria and also Princeton IL hamfests for 
a number of years. I was originally doing ribs at Princeton and prime rib at 
Peoria and the group decided to skip the ribs for the prime rib!

I was happy because that was my choice also!

Also do prime rib for my family for Christmas. When it's 9 degrees it's a 
real challenge but haven't failed yet!

73 Larry WA9VRH



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: <W9RAN at oneradio.net>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest


On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Robert Nickels <ranickel at comcast.net> 
wrote:

> I guess I can't let that line pass without mentioning that the Peoria
> Hamfest and Chow-a-Thon is this coming weekend! If any AM'ers are
> planning to attend and haven't already heard from Larry WA9VRH, let me
> know, as we can probably still get you in on the Sat. night Smoked Prime
> Rib Dinner and Sunday morning Champagne Breakfast

It's on my list of Things to Do, Bob. Had hoped to make it out this
year but still trying to sell the other house. Maybe in a couple more
years when things settle down domestically and economically. I've
heard nothing but good things about the event and been envious every
time!

~ Todd/KAQ
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From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Mon Sep 13 20:20:02 2010
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:20:02 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>	<AANLkTimkVsb4LewzBhnQce6dqDyMYeEj3ddk+eg1kcAW@mail.gmail.com><4C8E32BD.6050301@comcast.net>
	<000f01cb534f$ad01a8c0$0704fa40$@net>
Message-ID: <007301cb53a2$9fb8b200$6a01a8c0@KWM380>

Hi Bob,

Your always welcome!

73 Larry WA9VRH


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
To: <W9RAN at oneradio.net>; "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest


> Now that is my idea of a hamfest... Smoked Rib and Champagne breakfast...
> WOW do I wish I could make it add a few more pounds to my 350 lb body  LOL
>
> Bob W1PE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Nickels
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:19 AM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
>
>  On 9/12/2010 9:41 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
>> Food is as much a part of the event as the
>> friends and radio gear, after all.
> I guess I can't let that line pass without mentioning that the Peoria
> Hamfest and Chow-a-Thon is this coming weekend!   If any AM'ers are
> planning to attend and haven't already heard from Larry WA9VRH, let me
> know, as we can probably still get you in on the Sat. night Smoked Prime
> Rib Dinner and Sunday morning Champagne Breakfast
>
> It's sure nice of the radio club to hold a hamfest the same weekend as
> our get-together - gives us something to do between meals ;-)
>
> 73, Bob W9RAN
>
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From w4rl at bellsouth.net  Mon Sep 13 20:44:56 2010
From: w4rl at bellsouth.net (Robert Lawson)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:44:56 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
In-Reply-To: <44D1D864DC8C4C43B9D6F476DD6F62BA@brettPC>
References: <2e048.5382997f.39be67fd@aol.com>	<AANLkTi=iRhtaRgB-HKaee+291UpPF0LzBqeXxM+XJj_L@mail.gmail.com>	<1396.208.86.68.68.1284339420.squirrel@webmail.surfmore.net>	<4C8D7E39.3080603@bellsouth.net>
	<44D1D864DC8C4C43B9D6F476DD6F62BA@brettPC>
Message-ID: <4C8EC588.5060300@bellsouth.net>

  Brett,

Yes it's like walking though your own personal history radio museum, at 
least for the two of us.

Hey, that Champagne brunch doesn't sounds great.  I'd be game to attend 
the sip and graze event.  Now that's a hamfest in my book.

73

Robert W4RL
former 8Q0124 unit 4, and KEA0130.

PS Best thing about it is that we're still glowing fire bottles in our 
shacks even now.  And that's not too bad a thing to do.



On 9/13/2010 7:13 PM, Brett Gazdzinski wrote:
> I started radio with one of those CB boxes radio shack used to sell.
> It was tunable receive, ch 14 transmit, 100mw output, with built in code
> key!
>
> I added a light behind the tuning dial, and worked some friends with walkie
> talkies a block away.
>
> Not knowing anything, we all thought the trick setup was a coat hanger
> hanging from the gutter fed by a wire. SWR?
> It was a long time till I got something better, a 6 channel 5 watt Lafayette
> rig that was very poor.
>
> CB was civilized, and I enjoyed working some of the older guys around the
> hood.
> I lusted after the tube rigs, teabury (copy of something else?) with meters
> and mic gain and everything!
>
> I still have an attraction to the rigs, and in some parts of the country,
> its still nice, around here its all CB jive talk.
> Other then something like wifi/4g, radio is a dead wasteland besides ham AM
> and CW.
>
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Lawson"<w4rl at bellsouth.net>
> To:<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Shelby NC hamfest
>
>
>>   And when a pre-teen Boy Scout, there was a lot more advertising about
>> CB than ham radio.  I read an ad in Boy's Life magazine about CB radio
>> and getting into electronics, and I went for it like a bear on honey.
>> It was my entry into wireless communications in 1962 with my father
>> applying for the FCC CB license.  From such in 1964 and the Popular
>> Electronics "Novice Column" I obtained my Novice license WN4VDZ on my
>> own studying the Ameco Novice Study Guide text.  The rest is history.
>> So yes, I do enjoy plying over the old tube CB rigs at hamfest.  Such
>> good memories.  And yes, I've converted some to 10 meters.   It was a
>> different (radio) world back then.
>>
>> And add to the fact that lots of us ol'timers have scarfed off the face
>> of the Earth in recent years the supply of Ham Radio boatanchors now
>> piled in storage awaiting our bench projects.  The prices for them now
>> has soared with same collectors realizing they ain't gonna get to'em all
>> on the bench at their age and also the gear's weight.  And now with some
>> of the misconceived thought that they're as priceless as gold bars
>> begrudgingly attempt to sell them off at sky high prices thus preserving
>> their image as smart investors in the hobby.
>>
>> For me, all I want to attempt to do in selling off my stash is to come
>> close to breaking even and call it a happy ending day, and then go
>> fishing with my grandson.   Things change you know regardless.
>>
>> Ham Radio for most of us is not a for profit hobby.  It's just a hobby
>> with the chance to provide public service.  Think of it as a non-profit
>> hobby venture and enjoy the chance in having discovered it.   Don't
>> allow it to be a stubborn load carried upon your back.  Share your
>> initial thrill of Ham Radio and it's so important history.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert W4RL Pensacola FL
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/12/2010 7:57 PM, crawfish at surfmore.net wrote:
>>> The tube type CB's can be improved by converting them to 10m AM phone.
>>> Ditto on what Rob said.
>>>                                                       Joe W4AAB
>>>
>>>> The CB rigs from the 60s and earlier that had xtal pairs for every
>>>> channel and glowed in the dark are kind of interesting to look at.
>>>> The solid state PLL stuff can stay at home.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>> K5UJ
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM,<W4AWM at aol.com>   wrote:
>>>>> Shuckins, worsh it wusn't so dern fer!  Do the food venders sell Moon
>>>>>    Pies
>>>>> and RCs?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> John,  W4AWM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 9/12/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>>> ka1kaq at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat,  Sep 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, CL in NC<mjcal77 at yahoo.com>   wrote:
>>>>>> Not  to be an old grouch about this, but I have been attending Shelby
>>>>>> NC,
>>>>> for many  years now and I have never seen so much CB stuff at a
>>>>>    hamfest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering you're in the heart of Good Buddy country, it  should come
>>>>> as no surprise. At least it's radio-related and some of it  can
>>>>> actually be used or adapted for 10m and other use. I'd much  rather
>>>>> wade through CB gear than computer slag, jewelry, clothing, or  tables
>>>>> of cheap Chinese garbage with stuffed toys (there were a number  of
>>>>> those vendors, too). I found the lazy folks in the golf carts far  more
>>>>> annoying. Some of those good buddies end up bringing along some  nice
>>>>> boatanchors, too. One of them had a Halli SR-160, some Galaxy  gear,
>>>>> and a number of National, Halli, and other receivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you  want to attend a good 'fest with minimal junk and a lot of good
>>>>> gear, head  north next month for NEAR-Fest in Deerfield, NH. We make it
>>>>> a point to keep  out the junk vendors for the most part. When the do
>>>>> sneak in, we make sure  they don't come back. And no vehicles are
>>>>> allowed on the ground after set  up except for the handicapped or
>>>>> hamfest personnel. It's at least as big as  Shelby but not as many
>>>>> gaps, with a lot less 11m gear.  (o:
>>>>>
>>>>> ~  Todd,   KA1KAQ/4
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>
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From normsclassicradio at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 14 04:24:03 2010
From: normsclassicradio at yahoo.com (Norm Palin K7NCR)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:24:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
Message-ID: <340676.92721.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

http://www.red1.xmedx.com


      


From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 14 12:03:46 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
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OK, what's the mystery link suppose to mean?




________________________________
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From macklinbob at msn.com  Tue Sep 14 12:08:48 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:08:48 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
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	<48510.53804.qm@web83402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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It's Yahoo SPAM!

Bob Macklin
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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] (no subject)


OK, what's the mystery link suppose to mean?




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From ted.gustafson at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 12:14:11 2010
From: ted.gustafson at gmail.com (Ted Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:14:11 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <48510.53804.qm@web83402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <340676.92721.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<48510.53804.qm@web83402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinam2L0e=MAj-E8k4cBQPA1XRxqKHQY30cW0aZ5@mail.gmail.com>

I would call it spam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28electronic%29



On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:03 AM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> OK, what's the mystery link suppose to mean?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Norm Palin K7NCR <normsclassicradio at yahoo.com>
> To: 9y4ned at tstt.net.tt; admin at standwitharizona.mojo4m.com;
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> direct at adobesystems.com; akjamc at juno.com; fixer7526 at wmconnect.com;
> avflinsch at att.net; alincoparts at consolidated.net; amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 3:24:03 AM
> Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
>
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>
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From youngbob53 at msn.com  Tue Sep 14 12:17:42 2010
From: youngbob53 at msn.com (Bob Young)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] hacked again
In-Reply-To: <mailman.83.1284480042.1491.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.83.1284480042.1491.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <COL122-W332D6652CC9DD3E5951CA2C6780@phx.gbl>



> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:24:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Norm Palin K7NCR <normsclassicradio at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
> To: 9y4ned at tstt.net.tt, admin at standwitharizona.mojo4m.com,
> 	cs-auto at adobe.com, 	direct at adobesystems.com, akjamc at juno.com,
> 	fixer7526 at wmconnect.com,	avflinsch at att.net,
> 	alincoparts at consolidated.net, amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <340676.92721.qm at web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> http://www.red1.xmedx.com
> 
> 
> *********
 		 	   		  

From macklinbob at msn.com  Tue Sep 14 12:26:23 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:26:23 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] hacked again
References: <mailman.83.1284480042.1491.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<COL122-W332D6652CC9DD3E5951CA2C6780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP194DA6F802EAC58F9F25F3CC5780@phx.gbl>

It's the yahoo email server that has been hacked. Not your computer.The 
Yahoo address book is on the Yahoo email server, not your computer. The same 
is true of Hotmail and gmail.

I deleted all the addresses in my Yahoo address book to stop it.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Young" <youngbob53 at msn.com>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:17 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] hacked again


>
>
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:24:03 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Norm Palin K7NCR <normsclassicradio at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
>> To: 9y4ned at tstt.net.tt, admin at standwitharizona.mojo4m.com,
>> cs-auto at adobe.com, direct at adobesystems.com, akjamc at juno.com,
>> fixer7526 at wmconnect.com, avflinsch at att.net,
>> alincoparts at consolidated.net, amradio at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <340676.92721.qm at web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
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>>
>>
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From youngbob53 at msn.com  Tue Sep 14 12:24:53 2010
From: youngbob53 at msn.com (Bob Young)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:24:53 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
Message-ID: <COL122-W182E5BD56777DDDC8A72E2C6780@phx.gbl>


This is a daytime IBOC only station, they have tried it at night and had some kind of problem, does anyone know just how long it's been off?

Bob Young
Analog, MA
 		 	   		  

From normsclassicradio at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 14 12:38:43 2010
From: normsclassicradio at yahoo.com (Norm Palin K7NCR)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:38:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Spam from my address
Message-ID: <940850.19916.qm@web56303.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

To all annoyed e-mail recipients:
I had a worm hijack the first few of my yahoo address book. If you get any spam links/junk/bulk from my address, please forward it back to me WITH full headers, so I can track down the source.
Norm Palin 
K
 7
  N-orms
   C-lassic
    R-adio
Not racist, not violent, just not silent anymore!!!!!!


      


From ars.w5ami at gmail.com  Wed Sep 15 10:33:48 2010
From: ars.w5ami at gmail.com (W5AMI)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:33:48 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Chicago Transformer
Message-ID: <AANLkTinu9OqQyCePn-VW7gWu4ExVDyC5DEP0-ytV1M4h@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Chicago filament xfmr that I think is 7.5v @ 50 amps sec.,
240v pri.  The number is 662-0085-00.  Can anyone verify and send
specs?

Thanks & 73
Brian / w5ami


-- 
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My website: "Arkansas Airwaves" - http://arkansasairwaves.net
Email : ars.w5ami at gmail.com

"It is discouraging how many people are shocked by honesty and how few
by deceit".

From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 15 12:44:44 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:44:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Spam from my address
In-Reply-To: <940850.19916.qm@web56303.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <940850.19916.qm@web56303.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <830200.57783.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Good luck worm hunting bro!




________________________________
From: Norm Palin K7NCR <normsclassicradio at yahoo.com>
To: 9y4ned at tstt.net.tt
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 11:38:43 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Spam from my address

To all annoyed e-mail recipients:
I had a worm hijack the first few of my yahoo address book. If you get any spam 
links/junk/bulk from my address, please forward it back to me WITH full headers, 
so I can track down the source.
Norm Palin 
K
7
? N-orms
? C-lassic
? ? R-adio
Not racist, not violent, just not silent anymore!!!!!!


? ? ? 

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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 15 12:56:38 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <COL122-W182E5BD56777DDDC8A72E2C6780@phx.gbl>
References: <COL122-W182E5BD56777DDDC8A72E2C6780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <104545.62121.qm@web83405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

No idea, but I have turned AM IBOC off on KLIF, and am going to resist turning 
it on period on KTCK when I get finished with all the details of a power upgrade 
from 9 Kw. to 25 Kw. unless I receive a direct order. 


I have no real problem with FM IBOC but the AM codec SUCKS! It sounds like a bad 
MP3 and commits "legal" willful and malicious to stations on?either side locally 
and to on channel stations via sky wave at night which is why the FCC initally 
allowed it only during the day. In the North East where population density is 
high some stations were interfering with other stations owned by the same 
company in other towns. That's why a lot of owners have turned IBOC off.

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Bob Young <youngbob53 at msn.com>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net; am at nrcdxas.org
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 11:24:53 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row


This is a daytime IBOC only station, they have tried it at night and had some 
kind of problem, does anyone know just how long it's been off?

Bob Young
Analog, MA
??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? 
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From macklinbob at msn.com  Wed Sep 15 12:58:27 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:58:27 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Spam from my address
References: <940850.19916.qm@web56303.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<830200.57783.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP203FA5F9320BD73F677276BC5790@phx.gbl>

You won't find anything on your computer. This problem is entirely in 
Yahoo's email server.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BILL GUYGER" <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Spam from my address


Good luck worm hunting bro!




________________________________
From: Norm Palin K7NCR <normsclassicradio at yahoo.com>
To: 9y4ned at tstt.net.tt
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 11:38:43 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Spam from my address

To all annoyed e-mail recipients:
I had a worm hijack the first few of my yahoo address book. If you get any 
spam
links/junk/bulk from my address, please forward it back to me WITH full 
headers,
so I can track down the source.
Norm Palin
K
7
N-orms
C-lassic
R-adio
Not racist, not violent, just not silent anymore!!!!!!




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From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 15 14:04:51 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <104545.62121.qm@web83405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <630516.91885.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What make an model transmitter is it?BrianKF5CCN



--- On Wed, 9/15/10, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 11:56 AM

No idea, but I have turned AM IBOC off on KLIF, and am going to resist turning 
it on period on KTCK when I get finished with all the details of a power upgrade 
from 9 Kw. to 25 Kw. unless I receive a direct order. 


I have no real problem with FM IBOC but the AM codec SUCKS! It sounds like a bad 
MP3 and commits "legal" willful and malicious to stations on?either side locally 
and to on channel stations via sky wave at night which is why the FCC initally 
allowed it only during the day. In the North East where population density is 
high some stations were interfering with other stations owned by the same 
company in other towns. That's why a lot of owners have turned IBOC off.

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Bob Young <youngbob53 at msn.com>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net; am at nrcdxas.org
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 11:24:53 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row


This is a daytime IBOC only station, they have tried it at night and had some 
kind of problem, does anyone know just how long it's been off?

Bob Young
Analog, MA
??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? 
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 15 14:53:08 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:53:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <630516.91885.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <630516.91885.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <998741.62243.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was campaining for a Nautel NX-25 
but apparently the company has an agreement with Harris. 


I did pitch a S... Fit because I have had my hands on two other 3DX-50's and 
they were maintenance nightmares and Harris is real proud of replacement parts. 
I also brought up the fact that distortion on switch mode transmitters goes way 
up at reduced power (we go to 2.3 K at night). Harris ran tests and initially 
found distortion shot up to 16% and were shocked. Geoff Mendenhall and Ky Lu 
went out into the factory and ginned up a 25 Kw rig with all the modules of a 50 
present but operating at half power to reduce the step size of the waveform and 
then wrote some new software which may become the standard release which reduces 
distortion to 0.4% at 2.3 Kw. I frankly have NEVER seen Harris get off their 
butts and do something like that. I'm kind of amazed......... We also made them 
extend the warranty period to 4 years so I guess we'll see how it works. I did 
get a full set of spares.

Bill




________________________________
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 1:04:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row

What make an model transmitter is it?BrianKF5CCN



--- On Wed, 9/15/10, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 11:56 AM

No idea, but I have turned AM IBOC off on KLIF, and am going to resist turning 
it on period on KTCK when I get finished with all the details of a power upgrade 

from 9 Kw. to 25 Kw. unless I receive a direct order. 


I have no real problem with FM IBOC but the AM codec SUCKS! It sounds like a bad 

MP3 and commits "legal" willful and malicious to stations on?either side locally 

and to on channel stations via sky wave at night which is why the FCC initally 
allowed it only during the day. In the North East where population density is 
high some stations were interfering with other stations owned by the same 
company in other towns. That's why a lot of owners have turned IBOC off.

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Bob Young <youngbob53 at msn.com>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net; am at nrcdxas.org
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 11:24:53 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row


This is a daytime IBOC only station, they have tried it at night and had some 
kind of problem, does anyone know just how long it's been off?

Bob Young
Analog, MA
??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? 
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Wed Sep 15 16:10:12 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:10:12 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <998741.62243.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <630516.91885.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<998741.62243.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=E8TawMHX1w524fGKJs4a-AmVv0TzUxEMBc=da@mail.gmail.com>

Ah Bill, so you wound up with the DX after all.  Sorry to hear it.

Around here the WCCO night time IBOC on 830 kills the local 820
station at night which is down to 1.5 KW and a six tower DA to protect
WBAP.  I really hate medium wave IBOC.   The night 670 IBOC which is
only about 10 miles away (the former WMAQ) destroys my reception of
WSM.   I could go on with other examples.

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> ?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was campaining for a Nautel NX-25
> but apparently the company has an agreement with Harris.
>

From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Wed Sep 15 17:54:24 2010
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:54:24 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Reminder Peoria Superfest This Weekend!
Message-ID: <006201cb5521$d00596a0$6a01a8c0@KWM380>

HI All,

Please remember Peoria's Superfest this weekend!

Please see: http://www.peoriasuperfest.com/

For all the details!

73 Larry WA9VRH

From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Wed Sep 15 18:21:21 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:21:21 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <998741.62243.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <630516.91885.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I did pitch a S... Fit because I have had my hands on two other 3DX-50's and
> they were maintenance nightmares and Harris is real proud of replacement parts.

Must run in the family. We had two racks of Harris gear used for FNARS
at the EOC for years, there was always a receiver or some other piece
of gear out of the racks for repair. Worked great, when it worked.

I recall picking up a small pot with a 2-3" shaft in a plastic bag,
looked like a $5 - $10 part on a good day. Was told to be careful with
it as Harris charged over $100 for it. Always chalked it up to gov't
contracts, but it seems the same goes with all their gear!

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 15 21:44:59 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
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Hi Rob

I'd kill for a DX-25, the DX series just seems to work. We have two DX-10's and 
no problems what so ever. I got one of the exec's at Harris to admit on a 
conference call that the DX series were better transmitters than the 3DX. He 
actually admitted that the whole reason for the 3DX's was cost cutting. They did 
things like take the big Vacuum Variable out of the PA and approximate the 
ideal?value for different frequencies with multiple paralleled Mica's




________________________________
From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 3:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row

Ah Bill, so you wound up with the DX after all.? Sorry to hear it.

Around here the WCCO night time IBOC on 830 kills the local 820
station at night which is down to 1.5 KW and a six tower DA to protect
WBAP.? I really hate medium wave IBOC.? The night 670 IBOC which is
only about 10 miles away (the former WMAQ) destroys my reception of
WSM.? I could go on with other examples.

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> ?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was campaining for a Nautel 
NX-25
> but apparently the company has an agreement with Harris.
>
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From n5yey at live.com  Wed Sep 15 21:55:56 2010
From: n5yey at live.com (mark depaepe)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:55:56 +0000
Subject: [AMRadio] Collins 32v2 problem
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I am in te process of trouble shooting my 32v2.  I am unable to locate a tie point labeled as E305.  Can anyone tell me where that tie point is located, or another convenient place to disconnect the voltage off the screen regulators so I can leave the screen regulators in the circuit but remove the screen voltage from the final tube?
 
73
Mark 		 	   		  

From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Wed Sep 15 22:33:37 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:33:37 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <60414.96010.qm@web83405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Yeah Bill, I was wondering if there are any used DX50s or Nautels out
there.  I wonder how bad a used solid state rig would be, but maybe
broadcasters are like hams, if they have a good rig they keep it so
maybe used Nautels are unobtainium hi.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> I'd kill for a DX-25, the DX series just seems to work. We have two DX-10's and
> no problems what so ever. I got one of the exec's at Harris to admit on a
> conference call that the DX series were better transmitters than the 3DX. He
> actually admitted that the whole reason for the 3DX's was cost cutting. They did
> things like take the big Vacuum Variable out of the PA and approximate the
> ideal?value for different frequencies with multiple paralleled Mica's
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 3:10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
>
> Ah Bill, so you wound up with the DX after all.? Sorry to hear it.
>
> Around here the WCCO night time IBOC on 830 kills the local 820
> station at night which is down to 1.5 KW and a six tower DA to protect
> WBAP.? I really hate medium wave IBOC.? The night 670 IBOC which is
> only about 10 miles away (the former WMAQ) destroys my reception of
> WSM.? I could go on with other examples.
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> ?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was campaining for a Nautel
> NX-25
>> but apparently the company has an agreement with Harris.
>>
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 15 23:21:38 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:21:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
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Yeah, especially with today's economy, not that much has changed, there are some 
seriously old boxes on the air especially in small markets. 




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To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 9:33:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row

Yeah Bill, I was wondering if there are any used DX50s or Nautels out
there.? I wonder how bad a used solid state rig would be, but maybe
broadcasters are like hams, if they have a good rig they keep it so
maybe used Nautels are unobtainium hi.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> I'd kill for a DX-25, the DX series just seems to work. We have two DX-10's 
and
> no problems what so ever. I got one of the exec's at Harris to admit on a
> conference call that the DX series were better transmitters than the 3DX. He
> actually admitted that the whole reason for the 3DX's was cost cutting. They 
>did
> things like take the big Vacuum Variable out of the PA and approximate the
> ideal?value for different frequencies with multiple paralleled Mica's
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 3:10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
>
> Ah Bill, so you wound up with the DX after all.? Sorry to hear it.
>
> Around here the WCCO night time IBOC on 830 kills the local 820
> station at night which is down to 1.5 KW and a six tower DA to protect
> WBAP.? I really hate medium wave IBOC.? The night 670 IBOC which is
> only about 10 miles away (the former WMAQ) destroys my reception of
> WSM.? I could go on with other examples.
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> ?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was campaining for a Nautel
> NX-25
>> but apparently the company has an agreement with Harris.
>>
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From w9nto at toast.net  Thu Sep 16 00:30:35 2010
From: w9nto at toast.net (david oneill)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:30:35 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Collins 32v2 problem
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TO MARK N5YEY IT IS A CERAMIC FEED THRU GOING TO THE POWER SUPPLY WITH
THE 47 OHM RESISTOR ON IT GOING RIGHT TO THE TUBE PIN.UNSOLDER IT FROM
THE FEED THRU.

On 9/15/10, mark depaepe <n5yey at live.com> wrote:
>
> I am in te process of trouble shooting my 32v2.  I am unable to locate a tie
> point labeled as E305.  Can anyone tell me where that tie point is located,
> or another convenient place to disconnect the voltage off the screen
> regulators so I can leave the screen regulators in the circuit but remove
> the screen voltage from the final tube?
>
> 73
> Mark 		 	   		
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From k3hw at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 17 15:21:56 2010
From: k3hw at yahoo.com (Howard Weinstein)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration - need
	help !
Message-ID: <839461.2369.qm@web112004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Gang 

I have a Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration. It is a later run model (code 125), using a 50B5 audio output tube, vice a 50L6.  

I'm having some difficulty finding the proper schematic diagram, Yeah, I know, I shouldn't even need one, but, this  unit has an inoperative 1st audio stage and I'm seeing some  " wiring strangeness "  in that area.   

Also, the filaments are not wired in series, which I find highly strange.  I am have been searching the web, but, cannot find a schematic for this specific 46-420 code 125 Philco "Hippo" AM radio.  

Can ANYONE assist me in finding this schematic !

 Tnx es 73 de Howie K3HW




      

From Foltarz at rocketmail.com  Fri Sep 17 16:22:53 2010
From: Foltarz at rocketmail.com (Mark Foltarz)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration -
	need help !
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References: <839461.2369.qm@web112004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/597/M0013597.pdf?? ?



----- Original Message ----
> From: Howard Weinstein <k3hw at yahoo.com>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 2:21:56 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration - need 
>help !
> 
> Gang 
> 
> I have a Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration. It is a later run 
>model (code 125), using a 50B5 audio output tube, vice a 50L6.? 
>
> 
> I'm having some difficulty finding the proper schematic diagram, Yeah, I know, 
>I shouldn't even need one, but, this? unit has an inoperative 1st audio stage 
>and I'm seeing some? " wiring strangeness "? in that area.? 
>
> 
> Also, the filaments are not wired in series, which I find highly strange.? I am 
>have been searching the web, but, cannot find a schematic for this specific 
>46-420 code 125 Philco "Hippo" AM radio.? 
>
> 
> Can ANYONE assist me in finding this schematic !
> 
> Tnx es 73 de Howie K3HW
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Fri Sep 17 16:24:31 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:24:31 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration -
 need	help !
In-Reply-To: <839461.2369.qm@web112004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <839461.2369.qm@web112004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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  Howard - give this a shot!

Try:

<http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/597/M0013597.htm>

On 9/17/2010 3:21 PM, Howard Weinstein wrote:
> Philco model 46-420 Hippo

-- 


From rbethman at comcast.net  Fri Sep 17 17:01:03 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:01:03 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration -
 need	help !
In-Reply-To: <839461.2369.qm@web112004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <839461.2369.qm@web112004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C93D70F.5080707@comcast.net>

  Howie,

I cannot find the "-125" run code.

All of the Nostalgia air PDFs are either "120" or "121".  Those use the 
"infamous" (Notorious?) 50L6.

is there a "difference" in the pin-out and/or characteristics?

It may even have been "subbed" by a previous owner.

Bob - N0DGN

On 9/17/2010 3:21 PM, Howard Weinstein wrote:
> Gang
>
> I have a Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration. It is a later run model (code 125), using a 50B5 audio output tube, vice a 50L6.
>
> I'm having some difficulty finding the proper schematic diagram, Yeah, I know, I shouldn't even need one, but, this  unit has an inoperative 1st audio stage and I'm seeing some  " wiring strangeness "  in that area.
>
> Also, the filaments are not wired in series, which I find highly strange.  I am have been searching the web, but, cannot find a schematic for this specific 46-420 code 125 Philco "Hippo" AM radio.
>
> Can ANYONE assist me in finding this schematic !
>
>   Tnx es 73 de Howie K3HW


From manualman at juno.com  Fri Sep 17 17:24:12 2010
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:24:12 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration -
	need	help !
Message-ID: <20100917.142436.962.440627@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>

50L6 is 8 pin octal.
50B5 is 7 pin miniature.

Pete, wa2cwa
 
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:01:03 -0400 rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
writes:
>   Howie,
> 
> I cannot find the "-125" run code.
> 
> All of the Nostalgia air PDFs are either "120" or "121".  Those use 
> the 
> "infamous" (Notorious?) 50L6.
> 
> is there a "difference" in the pin-out and/or characteristics?
> 
> It may even have been "subbed" by a previous owner.
> 
> Bob - N0DGN
> 
> On 9/17/2010 3:21 PM, Howard Weinstein wrote:
> > Gang
> >
> > I have a Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration. It is a 
> later run model (code 125), using a 50B5 audio output tube, vice a 
> 50L6.
> >
> > I'm having some difficulty finding the proper schematic diagram, 
> Yeah, I know, I shouldn't even need one, but, this  unit has an 
> inoperative 1st audio stage and I'm seeing some  " wiring 
> strangeness "  in that area.
> >
> > Also, the filaments are not wired in series, which I find highly 
> strange.  I am have been searching the web, but, cannot find a 
> schematic for this specific 46-420 code 125 Philco "Hippo" AM 
> radio.
> >
> > Can ANYONE assist me in finding this schematic !
> >
> >   Tnx es 73 de Howie K3HW

From rbethman at comcast.net  Fri Sep 17 17:44:02 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:44:02 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] OT: Philco model 46-420 Hippo radio in restoration -
 need	help !
In-Reply-To: <20100917.142436.962.440627@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100917.142436.962.440627@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4C93E122.8090200@comcast.net>

  Pete,

My XYL grabbed my tube manuals and put them "away"!  Hence the "off top 
of head" comment.  I'm getting too dang OLD to keep it all in the noggin!

Thanks for the info!  Will file message in to my AMRADIO folder, along 
with all the messages since 2000 (Maybe?).

Bob - N0DGN

On 9/17/2010 5:24 PM, manualman at juno.com wrote:
> 50L6 is 8 pin octal.
> 50B5 is 7 pin miniature.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:01:03 -0400 rbethman<rbethman at comcast.net>
> writes:
>>    Howie,
>>
>> I cannot find the "-125" run code.
>>
>> All of the Nostalgia air PDFs are either "120" or "121".  Those use
>> the
>> "infamous" (Notorious?) 50L6.
>>
>> is there a "difference" in the pin-out and/or characteristics?
>>
>> It may even have been "subbed" by a previous owner.
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN


From hepcatrevival at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 18 18:56:33 2010
From: hepcatrevival at yahoo.com (Ken Zuercher)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <782631.35670.qm@web83406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <44341.97348.qm@web82408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I also agree. I take care of 10 small market stations. With the exceptions of a couple of BE AM1 units, the rest are not spring chickens. No Gates FM-10s anymore however.
Ken KC8QO

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 11:21 PM
> Yeah, especially with today's
> economy, not that much has changed, there are some 
> seriously old boxes on the air especially in small markets.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 9:33:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in
> a row
> 
> Yeah Bill, I was wondering if there are any used DX50s or
> Nautels out
> there.? I wonder how bad a used solid state rig would be,
> but maybe
> broadcasters are like hams, if they have a good rig they
> keep it so
> maybe used Nautels are unobtainium hi.
> 
> 73
> 
> Rob
> K5UJ
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Rob
> >
> > I'd kill for a DX-25, the DX series just seems to
> work. We have two DX-10's 
> and
> > no problems what so ever. I got one of the exec's at
> Harris to admit on a
> > conference call that the DX series were better
> transmitters than the 3DX. He
> > actually admitted that the whole reason for the 3DX's
> was cost cutting. They 
> >did
> > things like take the big Vacuum Variable out of the PA
> and approximate the
> > ideal?value for different frequencies with multiple
> paralleled Mica's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> > To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 3:10:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd
> day in a row
> >
> > Ah Bill, so you wound up with the DX after all.?
> Sorry to hear it.
> >
> > Around here the WCCO night time IBOC on 830 kills the
> local 820
> > station at night which is down to 1.5 KW and a six
> tower DA to protect
> > WBAP.? I really hate medium wave IBOC.? The night
> 670 IBOC which is
> > only about 10 miles away (the former WMAQ) destroys my
> reception of
> > WSM.? I could go on with other examples.
> >
> > Rob
> > K5UJ
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >> ?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was
> campaining for a Nautel
> > NX-25
> >> but apparently the company has an agreement with
> Harris.
> >>
> >
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 18 20:38:27 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
In-Reply-To: <44341.97348.qm@web82408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <44341.97348.qm@web82408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <666737.77308.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yeah,?there's still a Collins 32V on the air over in East Texas. It's in the 
process of being replaced and I thought hard about asking for it, but for now my 
Bauer 707 will have to do.??There's probably a few of those still?cranking out 
the hits, I know Bauer sold a pile of them to Hong Kong for jamming 
transmitters. That's per Paul Gregg FWIW.

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Ken Zuercher <hepcatrevival at yahoo.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 5:56:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row

I also agree. I take care of 10 small market stations. With the exceptions of a 
couple of BE AM1 units, the rest are not spring chickens. No Gates FM-10s 
anymore however.
Ken KC8QO

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in a row
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 11:21 PM
> Yeah, especially with today's
> economy, not that much has changed, there are some 
> seriously old boxes on the air especially in small markets.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 9:33:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd day in
> a row
> 
> Yeah Bill, I was wondering if there are any used DX50s or
> Nautels out
> there.? I wonder how bad a used solid state rig would be,
> but maybe
> broadcasters are like hams, if they have a good rig they
> keep it so
> maybe used Nautels are unobtainium hi.
> 
> 73
> 
> Rob
> K5UJ
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Rob
> >
> > I'd kill for a DX-25, the DX series just seems to
> work. We have two DX-10's 
> and
> > no problems what so ever. I got one of the exec's at
> Harris to admit on a
> > conference call that the DX series were better
> transmitters than the 3DX. He
> > actually admitted that the whole reason for the 3DX's
> was cost cutting. They 
> >did
> > things like take the big Vacuum Variable out of the PA
> and approximate the
> > ideal?value for different frequencies with multiple
> paralleled Mica's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> > To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 3:10:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTAG 580 IBOC off for the 2nd
> day in a row
> >
> > Ah Bill, so you wound up with the DX after all.?
> Sorry to hear it.
> >
> > Around here the WCCO night time IBOC on 830 kills the
> local 820
> > station at night which is down to 1.5 KW and a six
> tower DA to protect
> > WBAP.? I really hate medium wave IBOC.? The night
> 670 IBOC which is
> > only about 10 miles away (the former WMAQ) destroys my
> reception of
> > WSM.? I could go on with other examples.
> >
> > Rob
> > K5UJ
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >> ?It's a Harris 3DX-50 masquerading as a 25. I was
> campaining for a Nautel
> > NX-25
> >> but apparently the company has an agreement with
> Harris.
> >>
> >
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From normsclassicradio at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 21 05:28:01 2010
From: normsclassicradio at yahoo.com (normsclassicradio at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:28:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
Message-ID: <936130.73802.qm@web56308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

http://www.arr2.xmedx.com


      


From kk7iz at cox.net  Wed Sep 22 13:43:05 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:43:05 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
Message-ID: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC>


Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.

Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/ 

From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep 22 18:41:02 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:41:02 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
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Hello Lloyd:

Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the 150 
and it works.  Coils too.
Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
73's
Greg
WA7LYO
Kinston NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B


>
> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>
> Thanx
> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
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From kk7iz at cox.net  Wed Sep 22 18:42:53 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:42:53 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC>
	<449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC>
Message-ID: <9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>

Want to part with it?
Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B

> Hello Lloyd:
>
> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the 150
> and it works.  Coils too.
> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
> 73's
> Greg
> WA7LYO
> Kinston NC
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>
>>
>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>
>> Thanx
>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>> kk7iz at cox.net
>> 480-620-7145
>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
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From n4vgb at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 22 19:16:01 2010
From: n4vgb at yahoo.com (Mack Rogers)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC>
Message-ID: <766345.49720.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

OK, here's my personal horror story about a Meissner 150B. Please remember that hindsight is always 20/20.

A guy showed up at my home about 40 years ago with a xmitter that he said he wanted to see if I could get working for him and he'd pay me for the parts and labor. Always looking to earn extra bucks back then I said OK to the idea. He tells me it's rather large and heavy so he better pull around to my basement door where my workbench was located, now I'm a little worried.

Lo and behold it's a Meissner 150B in excellent condition but missing some tubes. The missing tubes turn out to be it's only problem and it works FB. I give it several thorough tests and a couple of long smoke tests on the dummy load, all is well so I call the guy with the monetary damages and tell him to pick it up whenever he wishes.

Now it gets interesting. The owner tells me he really wasn't interested in the old radio, he got it in a deal with a bunch of junk he wanted, and just wanted to see if I could get it to work, tells me to just keep it. Remember, I was young and needing all the extra cash I could earn back then. I tell the guy to come get his xmitter and bring cash with him in no uncertain terms. He laughs and says OK, picks it up a couple of days later and pays me.

It was about 10 years later that I discovered how I had made a big mistake in that deal and really should have took his offer to keep the Meissner 150B!!! Oh well, live and learn.

N4VGB
Mack Rogers

 

--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Lloyd Godsey <kk7iz at cox.net> wrote:

> From: Lloyd Godsey <kk7iz at cox.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 1:43 PM
> 
> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to
> buy.
> 
> Thanx
> Lloyd Godsey? KK7IZ
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> 480-620-7145
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> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/ 
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From kk7iz at cox.net  Wed Sep 22 19:25:21 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:25:21 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <766345.49720.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <766345.49720.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <80C8B35DA5FA47DB8E102140CB0F5212@LloydPC>

Ve ar too soon oldt and too late shmart
Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mack Rogers" <n4vgb at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:16 PM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B

> OK, here's my personal horror story about a Meissner 150B. Please remember 
> that hindsight is always 20/20.
>
> A guy showed up at my home about 40 years ago with a xmitter that he said 
> he wanted to see if I could get working for him and he'd pay me for the 
> parts and labor. Always looking to earn extra bucks back then I said OK to 
> the idea. He tells me it's rather large and heavy so he better pull around 
> to my basement door where my workbench was located, now I'm a little 
> worried.
>
> Lo and behold it's a Meissner 150B in excellent condition but missing some 
> tubes. The missing tubes turn out to be it's only problem and it works FB. 
> I give it several thorough tests and a couple of long smoke tests on the 
> dummy load, all is well so I call the guy with the monetary damages and 
> tell him to pick it up whenever he wishes.
>
> Now it gets interesting. The owner tells me he really wasn't interested in 
> the old radio, he got it in a deal with a bunch of junk he wanted, and 
> just wanted to see if I could get it to work, tells me to just keep it. 
> Remember, I was young and needing all the extra cash I could earn back 
> then. I tell the guy to come get his xmitter and bring cash with him in no 
> uncertain terms. He laughs and says OK, picks it up a couple of days later 
> and pays me.
>
> It was about 10 years later that I discovered how I had made a big mistake 
> in that deal and really should have took his offer to keep the Meissner 
> 150B!!! Oh well, live and learn.
>
> N4VGB
> Mack Rogers
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Lloyd Godsey <kk7iz at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Lloyd Godsey <kk7iz at cox.net>
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 1:43 PM
>>
>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to
>> buy.
>>
>> Thanx
>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>> kk7iz at cox.net
>> 480-620-7145
>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
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From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep 22 19:12:38 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:12:38 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC>
	<9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>
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Sure
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B


> Want to part with it?
> Thanx
> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
> kk7iz at cox.net
> 480-620-7145
> www.kk7iz-parts.com
> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>> Hello Lloyd:
>>
>> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
>> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the 150
>> and it works.  Coils too.
>> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
>> 73's
>> Greg
>> WA7LYO
>> Kinston NC
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>> 480-620-7145
>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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>>
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>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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From kk7iz at cox.net  Wed Sep 22 19:42:13 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:42:13 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <B7B17037D55B4DB2A8FE7B1A12DE5A74@GregMijalPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC><9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>
	<B7B17037D55B4DB2A8FE7B1A12DE5A74@GregMijalPC>
Message-ID: <99F1562AF9FF47EDAF416BF40AC529AB@LloydPC>

So wha'cha want?
Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:12 PM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B

> Sure
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>
>> Want to part with it?
>> Thanx
>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>> kk7iz at cox.net
>> 480-620-7145
>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>
>>> Hello Lloyd:
>>>
>>> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
>>> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the 
>>> 150
>>> and it works.  Coils too.
>>> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
>>> 73's
>>> Greg
>>> WA7LYO
>>> Kinston NC
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
>>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>>>
>>>> Thanx
>>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>>> 480-620-7145
>>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/21/10
>>> 23:34:00
>>>
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>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/21/10 
> 23:34:00
> 

From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep 22 19:53:17 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:53:17 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <99F1562AF9FF47EDAF416BF40AC529AB@LloydPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC><9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC><B7B17037D55B4DB2A8FE7B1A12DE5A74@GregMijalPC>
	<99F1562AF9FF47EDAF416BF40AC529AB@LloydPC>
Message-ID: <6FD94D35F80C42FAB801BBDB1A4F88CB@GregMijalPC>

$100 plus actual shipping.
Greg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B


> So wha'cha want?
> Thanx
> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
> kk7iz at cox.net
> 480-620-7145
> www.kk7iz-parts.com
> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:12 PM
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>> Sure
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>
>>
>>> Want to part with it?
>>> Thanx
>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>> 480-620-7145
>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
>>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>
>>>> Hello Lloyd:
>>>>
>>>> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
>>>> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the
>>>> 150
>>>> and it works.  Coils too.
>>>> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
>>>> 73's
>>>> Greg
>>>> WA7LYO
>>>> Kinston NC
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>>>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
>>>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx
>>>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>>>> 480-620-7145
>>>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
>>>>> AMRadio mailing list
>>>>> Searchable Archives:
>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
>>>>> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
>>>>> List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio
>>>>> Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
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>>>>> the word unsubscribe in the message body.
>>>>>
>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
>>>> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 
>>>> 09/21/10
>>>> 23:34:00
>>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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>>
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>
>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/21/10
>> 23:34:00
>>
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From kk7iz at cox.net  Wed Sep 22 19:55:50 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:55:50 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <6FD94D35F80C42FAB801BBDB1A4F88CB@GregMijalPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC><9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC><B7B17037D55B4DB2A8FE7B1A12DE5A74@GregMijalPC><99F1562AF9FF47EDAF416BF40AC529AB@LloydPC>
	<6FD94D35F80C42FAB801BBDB1A4F88CB@GregMijalPC>
Message-ID: <7153AE31FB3042CD86F93EB980371CFE@LloydPC>


Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:53 PM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B

> $100 plus actual shipping.
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>
>> So wha'cha want?
>> Thanx
>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>> kk7iz at cox.net
>> 480-620-7145
>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:12 PM
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>
>>> Sure
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>
>>>
>>>> Want to part with it?
>>>> Thanx
>>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>>> 480-620-7145
>>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
>>>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>>>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Lloyd:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
>>>>> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the
>>>>> 150
>>>>> and it works.  Coils too.
>>>>> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
>>>>> 73's
>>>>> Greg
>>>>> WA7LYO
>>>>> Kinston NC
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>>>>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>>>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>>>>> 480-620-7145
>>>>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>>>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
>>>>>> AMRadio mailing list
>>>>>> Searchable Archives:
>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
>>>>>> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
>>>>>> List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio
>>>>>> Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with
>>>>>> the word unsubscribe in the message body.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
>>>>> AMRadio mailing list
>>>>> Searchable Archives:
>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
>>>>> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
>>>>> List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio
>>>>> Post: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-request at mailman.qth.net with
>>>>> the word unsubscribe in the message body.
>>>>>
>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date:
>>>>> 09/21/10
>>>>> 23:34:00
>>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
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>>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
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>>> the word unsubscribe in the message body.
>>>
>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/21/10
>>> 23:34:00
>>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From w5jo at att.net  Wed Sep 22 20:22:30 2010
From: w5jo at att.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:22:30 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <7153AE31FB3042CD86F93EB980371CFE@LloydPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC><9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC><B7B17037D55B4DB2A8FE7B1A12DE5A74@GregMijalPC><99F1562AF9FF47EDAF416BF40AC529AB@LloydPC><6FD94D35F80C42FAB801BBDB1A4F88CB@GregMijalPC>
	<7153AE31FB3042CD86F93EB980371CFE@LloydPC>
Message-ID: <A2EE60BB78FB4BB8875DCFE19572ECDC@JimPC>

Hi Guys,

Please remember that trading, selling or buying should be on AM Swap.

73

Jim/W5JO
Moderator

From doxemf at aol.com  Wed Sep 22 21:01:56 2010
From: doxemf at aol.com (Doxemf)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:01:56 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC>
Message-ID: <8CD28D20D587898-1324-981B@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com>


LLoyd,

I highly recommend Pete,"The Manual Man" for an excellent copy of the manual. I have the original manual but it was missing the transmitter schematic and Pete was kind enough to just let me buy that page.
The Signal Shifter is part of the original manual but check on that to be sure.
Good score !! I know of two on the air here in the NE. N1HCI, Tom, can be worked daily and there is another down in VA or MD but I forget his call.

Google Meissner 150B and you should find a page with lots of pix covering the restoration of one.

I am still looking for the RF deck but will probably substitute the GP7 TUs instead as I do not have the big cabinet.

Enjoy,
Bill, KB3DKS






-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd Godsey <kk7iz at cox.net>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 1:43 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B



ooking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
Thanx
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k7iz at cox.net
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From farrerfolks at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 22 21:21:50 2010
From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <8CD28D20D587898-1324-981B@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <530385.2434.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello All,

I have not been able to find this group on my Yahoo group search.? However, I am getting the emails????? Where is it???? Thanks, I am into AM radio with a Bauer 707 on 80 Meters.

Mel, K6KBE

--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Doxemf <doxemf at aol.com> wrote:

From: Doxemf <doxemf at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 6:01 PM


LLoyd,

I highly recommend Pete,"The Manual Man" for an excellent copy of the manual. I have the original manual but it was missing the transmitter schematic and Pete was kind enough to just let me buy that page.
The Signal Shifter is part of the original manual but check on that to be sure.
Good score !! I know of two on the air here in the NE. N1HCI, Tom, can be worked daily and there is another down in VA or MD but I forget his call.

Google Meissner 150B and you should find a page with lots of pix covering the restoration of one.

I am still looking for the RF deck but will probably substitute the GP7 TUs instead as I do not have the big cabinet.

Enjoy,
Bill, KB3DKS






-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd Godsey <kk7iz at cox.net>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 1:43 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B



ooking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
Thanx
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 22:29:39 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:29:39 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <766345.49720.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC>
	<766345.49720.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZ1eJ0HocsO56kLMHYHjPUxmKWui-BB5FvuTy8@mail.gmail.com>

I can sympathize Mack--I'd love to run a 150B but the size and weight make
it a pretty tough proposition for me right now but it has to be about the
best 150 watts there is.  Separate 866A power supplies for RF and audio; big
mod. transformer...I have no idea what they go for these days.  I did get
lucky earlier this summer and became the owner of an Eldico TR-1, another
813 by 2x811A rig, so I have to remind myself that I can't get them all and
be content with the TR-1.

but back to the 150B--just want to mention that issue number 89 of ER has a
great article on the 150B.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Mack Rogers <n4vgb at yahoo.com> wrote:

> OK, here's my personal horror story about a Meissner 150B. Please remember
> that hindsight is always 20/20.
>
> A guy showed up at my home about 40 years ago with a xmitter that he said
> he wanted to see if I could get working for him and he'd pay me for the
> parts and labor. Always looking to earn extra bucks back then I said OK to
> the idea. He tells me it's rather large and heavy so he better pull around
> to my basement door where my workbench was located, now I'm a little
> worried.
>
> Lo and behold it's a Meissner 150B in excellent condition but missing some
> tubes. The missing tubes turn out to be it's only problem and it works FB. I
> give it several thorough tests and a couple of long smoke tests on the dummy
> load, all is well so I call the guy with the monetary damages and tell him
> to pick it up whenever he wishes.
>
> Now it gets interesting. The owner tells me he really wasn't interested in
> the old radio, he got it in a deal with a bunch of junk he wanted, and just
> wanted to see if I could get it to work, tells me to just keep it. Remember,
> I was young and needing all the extra cash I could earn back then. I tell
> the guy to come get his xmitter and bring cash with him in no uncertain
> terms. He laughs and says OK, picks it up a couple of days later and pays
> me.
>
> It was about 10 years later that I discovered how I had made a big mistake
> in that deal and really should have took his offer to keep the Meissner
> 150B!!! Oh well, live and learn.
>
> N4VGB
> Mack Rogers
>
>
>
>

From soundval at muchstuff.com  Thu Sep 23 17:12:12 2010
From: soundval at muchstuff.com (MUCHSTUFF)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:12:12 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC>
	<9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>
Message-ID: <FABAA77313B6404986C2C0F475DA6911@Rippen>

Hi Lloyd,

I could sure use a good picture of a Meissner 150 for the next edition of 
"Tube Type Transmitters".
Does the 150 look like the 150B?

Gene Rippen, WB6SZS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B


> Want to part with it?
> Thanx
> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
> kk7iz at cox.net
> 480-620-7145
> www.kk7iz-parts.com
> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>> Hello Lloyd:
>>
>> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
>> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the 150
>> and it works.  Coils too.
>> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
>> 73's
>> Greg
>> WA7LYO
>> Kinston NC
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>> 480-620-7145
>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
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From kk7iz at cox.net  Thu Sep 23 19:22:58 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:22:58 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
In-Reply-To: <FABAA77313B6404986C2C0F475DA6911@Rippen>
References: <C3DD584D18CC44C7BD518CD9FF0106B9@LloydPC><449697AD0397485EA7A77E2C94C4B011@GregMijalPC><9486D575B4FD41259303BA31926933C6@LloydPC>
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Eugene
Don't know the dif but when I get mine home will sure take pix for you. Only 
cost you 1 copy of book.
Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/

--------------------------------------------------
From: "MUCHSTUFF" <soundval at muchstuff.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:12 PM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B

> Hi Lloyd,
>
> I could sure use a good picture of a Meissner 150 for the next edition of
> "Tube Type Transmitters".
> Does the 150 look like the 150B?
>
> Gene Rippen, WB6SZS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>
>
>> Want to part with it?
>> Thanx
>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>> kk7iz at cox.net
>> 480-620-7145
>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:41 PM
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>
>>> Hello Lloyd:
>>>
>>> Are you asking about the Meissner 150 transmitter?
>>> The reason I am asking is because I have the VFO exciter unit for the 
>>> 150
>>> and it works.  Coils too.
>>> Don't have any schematics for the transmitter unit.
>>> 73's
>>> Greg
>>> WA7LYO
>>> Kinston NC
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Lloyd Godsey" <kk7iz at cox.net>
>>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
>>> Subject: [AMRadio] Meissner 150-B
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking for complete schematic or manual with schematic to buy.
>>>>
>>>> Thanx
>>>> Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
>>>> kk7iz at cox.net
>>>> 480-620-7145
>>>> www.kk7iz-parts.com
>>>> www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/
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From tommyl at att.net  Fri Sep 24 14:24:50 2010
From: tommyl at att.net (tommyl at att.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:24:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Does the Marconi Foundation in Bedford NH Still Exist?
Message-ID: <906803.95532.qm@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hello all:

A friend of mine who is now a silent key wished to donate a vintage Marconi 
Receiver to the museum in Bedford but none of the phone numbers work.  Is the 
museum still there and anyone know how to get in touch with them?  Thanks for 
any replys, Bill WB4KFO.

From kb1fqg at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 24 14:56:28 2010
From: kb1fqg at yahoo.com (John Flood)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:56:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Does the Marconi Foundation in Bedford NH Still Exist?
In-Reply-To: <906803.95532.qm@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <906803.95532.qm@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50324.96158.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I may be wrong but think that they are gone.? A friend of mine purchased a bunch 
of stuff from them at some sort?of sale or?auction?when they closed down 
recently.? Hmmmmm.......? Perhaps I should have said that they moved to my 
house!!!? ?;)

John Flood
KB1FQG?



----- Original Message ----
> From: "tommyl at att.net" <tommyl at att.net>
> To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 2:24:50 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Does the Marconi Foundation in Bedford NH Still Exist?
> 
> Hello all:
> 
> A friend of mine who is now a silent key wished to donate a vintage Marconi 
> Receiver to the museum in Bedford but none of the phone numbers work.? Is the 
> museum still there and anyone know how to get in touch with them?? Thanks for 
> any replys, Bill WB4KFO.
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From w5jo at att.net  Fri Sep 24 17:14:08 2010
From: w5jo at att.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:14:08 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Looking for certain pictures boatanchors
Message-ID: <AD18E10E2C6A472EBF37F24184280F7C@JimPC>

About ready to take the 2nd edition of TTT ( Tube Type Transmitters ) to 
the
printer.
Its got about 800 pics now,ut some could be better, and some I don't 
have.
I'm looking for some pictures and/or specs of the equipment described 
below.
The pictures can be frontal, or of the top and front, or of the side and
front, or of the front, side and top.
The last choice is my favorite, the front, side and top.
They can be color or shades of grayscale.
They must come to me with full permission, from any copyright holder, to 
use
and publish.
I will pay $5 to cover mailing, and your being annoyed, for the first
picture
        I select for each of these below for which I want pictures.
         Thus, you need to check with me to see if I still need what you 
may
        have..
So.... don't quit your daytime job just yet.  I will give 
acknowledgements.
The dates below are approximate.
Don't fret about what's in the Pic. background, I'm used to cleaning 
them
up.
I have already done the "Bama", "MODS.DE" and "Google" things.

In this first batch I'm looking for pics and some specs:
    Ameco 6N2 transmitter.
    Amperex 110 2 M amplifier. 1978
    Appolo Products 2000X2  1979
    ARD 250A
    Drake:  DC-3,  and TC-6.
    EICO  739
    Elenco Power Gainer, Linear Amplifier. 1958
    Elenco X4 SSB exiter.  1954
    Emesco TR-6 and VFO-6,   1962
    ERA narrow Band FM (transmitter? transceiver?)
    Emp-Lab PKO-1  transmitter  1932.
    ETI combination transmitter/code oscillator  1952.
    Galaxy:  "2000B" Ampl., "225" (whatever?), "3" transceiver,
        "G-1000" P.S.,  "Saturn" 10M, and "SC 550" console.
    WRL  "Duo-Bander II"
    Globe:  Duodyne770"  and  "VHF VFO 3020"
    Kaar:   10A and 10X transmitters.
    KW 2000.
    Lafayette:  HE-51 and HE-61.
    Lysco:  A-114, A129, A140 or A173.  (Any one of these)
    Marine:  750B and MT-55.
    Matric 50W.
    McMurdo Silver:  "10-D", "10-F", "Jones All Band" and "Progressive"
    Millen Transmatch Junior
    National  "MNC-10-ASD"  and "Sixty Special"
    PrePro  transmitter.
    Radio Supply Co.:  "RF Amplifier 1935",  "XM-1" transmitter 1939,
        and "XT-3" Exciter 1939,
    Radio Trading Co.:  "10 meter breadboard"  1934 and
        "2121 breadboard" transmitter?  1934.
    Siltronix;  1011  ( A, B, C or D)
    SUN PA500 (if this is a modulator or RF Ampl.)
    SUNAIRE PLA-1000A Amplifier.
    Transcon:  "Six" and "Ten"  1957.
    Triplett  3286 (Transmitter?)  1947
    Trutest 25 Watt Jr.  Transmitter.  1937.
    Utah:  "250 Watt Modulator"  1937,   "50 Watt Modulator" 1937,
        "500 Watt RF Amplifier"  1937, and  "Multiband Transmitter" 
1939.
    UTC  30-AF Modulator, 1936.
    Valenco 140  transmitter.  1954
    Vantron 300 Linear Amplifier.
    XWAN 230XC (whatever?)

Continued in another email.

Eugene Rippen, WB6SZS
Auburn, CA 


From w5jo at att.net  Fri Sep 24 17:16:14 2010
From: w5jo at att.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:16:14 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Looking for pictures 2nd list
Message-ID: <B9EF52F0C39D49649CEFB8D6679AC792@JimPC>

This email is a continuation.
Here I'm wanting pics mostly.
About ready to take the 2nd edition of TTT ( Tube Type Transmitters ) to 
the
printer.
Its got about 800 pics now,ut some could be better, and some I don't 
have.
I'm looking for some pictures or specs of the equipment described below.
The pictures can be frontal, or of the top and front, or of the side and
front, or of the front, side and top.
The last choice is my favorite, the front, side and top.
They can be color or shades of grayscale.
They must come to me with full permission, from any copyright holder, to 
use
and publish.
I will pay $5 to cover mailing, and your being annoyed, for the first
picture
        I select for each of these below for which I want pictures.
         Thus, you need to check with me to see if I still need what you 
may
        have..
So.... don't quit your daytime job just yet.  I will give 
acknowledgements.
The dates below are approximate.
Don't fret about what's in the Pic. background, I'm used to cleaning 
them
up.
I have already done the "Bama", "MODS.DE" and "Google" things.

I just want Pics for this list, I have my Specs.
    Atlas 2KW  (WRL product)  1963
    Alpha 77DF
    Arrow Novice Transmitter. 1955.
    Audio Products Co. of Los Angeles  Power Amplifier.  1934.
    Bandguard MF2/W transmitter.  1955
    Browning  NLEC5  Ampl.  1939.
    Bud:  BPA500  Amplifier. 1939,  and XT25C  transmitter.  1939.
    Christy Jelectro QRP-60  1961.
    Clegg: 6000-6,  600-2  or  600-1 1/4   (1 pic of any one of these)
    Collins 30K  and  250-A.
    Craftronics  CT-120 transmitter.
    Creative  H-316 Airmaster   1959.
    Delft  A, B, C and D  (One of each)  1931.
    Dixon 75 transmitter.  1953.
    Drake:  RV-3, RV-4, RV-6, T-4, T4X  and L-4.
    Elenco 400T34,  400T4,  PA400   and  77.   1954
    El-Tronics AE-30 transmitter.   1948
    Galaxy:  RV-550 VFO and  GT-550A  transceiver.
    Globe:  AT-3 & AT-4 Ant Tuners 1957.
    Globe:  Scout 40-A,  40,  Chief 90A and Champion 300.
    Hallicrafters  SR-42.
    Hart 25 CW transmitter  1954.
    KW.107
    Knight T-60,  TR-106  and TR-108.
    Lafayette  HE-61
    Leeds:  50-TB transmitter,  and  C2 (1931)
    Lysco  A-175A
    Meissner:  150B   2CW,  6L6 and All Star.
    Montgomery Ward Airline OR5
    Morrow:  PW 10, 15, 20, 40 or 75.  (A pic of just any one)
    National:  NTX-30 and  MSM modulator.
    P&H  L200M (or is it L2000M?)
    P&K  504 DX transmitter.
    Radio-Television Supply:  4-25 exciter, Baby Bi-Push Transmitter
        and  DeLuxe Bi-Push  1938(all)
    REL:  135, 175 & "Hartley" transmitters.
    REL: 185 power supply.
    RME:  HG-303  and HG-602 transmitters.
    Sonar:  SRT-120M and SRT-120P.
    TBS:  TBL2000  Linear Amplifier.
    Tecraft:  Sidewinder,  TR-20/144  and TR-20/50  transmitters.
    Temco:  75GA and TA1000.
    WRL:  15  (transmitter 1938), 150  &  150 RF CW, (transmitters 
1940),
    WRL:   Exciter (1947 for Exciter)
    WRL:  150 modulator  and 75 W modulator for the 150 transmitter. 
1940
    WRL:   ECO VFO  (but, big VFO.  Has 6L6 and 807.  1941
    WRL:   PSA-63A  power supply.
    WRL:   SM-90 screen modulator.
    Yaesu  FLdx-400/500 transmitter.
    Yaesu  FT-101Z   1979

This may seem a lot, but I already have about 1600 items and 700 
pictures.

These following are ones that I just need specs (no pictures).
    "Cosmophone"   before 1958.  (Not Cosmophone 35 or 1000.)
    "DeWald Radio-Phone"  Yes!  Ham equipment from DeWald.



Eugene Rippen,  WB6SZS
Auburn, CA 


From w5jo at att.net  Fri Sep 24 17:30:34 2010
From: w5jo at att.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:30:34 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
Message-ID: <99DD622315E74B49AF4FD64F1C88051F@JimPC>

I notice we have had a spate of bounced messages lately.  There seems to 
be two reasons.  If you put too many recipients on your message, the 
server won't let it through.  I see this a lot.  People will put AM 
Radio, AM Swap, Boatanchors, etc. ad infinitum and send the message. 
Or in the case of cross posting someone on one list will do a reply and 
send it to a list where they do not have a subscription and it won't 
work on our lists.

Keep an eye open for that.

The second is choosing a recipient from the message and trying to copy 
the address to the address field and the address is incorrect.

These show up on my list of Administrative messages and, while they are 
not a particular problem for me, it can be a problem for you because 
your message doesn't get where you intended.  This message is just for 
your information.

73

Jim/W5JO
Moderator 


From farrerfolks at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 24 17:56:29 2010
From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
In-Reply-To: <99DD622315E74B49AF4FD64F1C88051F@JimPC>
Message-ID: <655412.18139.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Jim,

I get these email messages but can't for the life of me figure out where they started and why.

I am very much into Broadcast Transmitter restoration and have a Bauer 707 up on 80 M.? tell me a little about this group and how I can get back in..? Thanks

Mel, K6KBE

--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Jim Wilhite <w5jo at att.net> wrote:

From: Jim Wilhite <w5jo at att.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
To: "AM Swap List" <amswap at mailman.qth.net>, "AM Radio Discussion List" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:30 PM

I notice we have had a spate of bounced messages lately.? There seems to 
be two reasons.? If you put too many recipients on your message, the 
server won't let it through.? I see this a lot.? People will put AM 
Radio, AM Swap, Boatanchors, etc. ad infinitum and send the message. 
Or in the case of cross posting someone on one list will do a reply and 
send it to a list where they do not have a subscription and it won't 
work on our lists.

Keep an eye open for that.

The second is choosing a recipient from the message and trying to copy 
the address to the address field and the address is incorrect.

These show up on my list of Administrative messages and, while they are 
not a particular problem for me, it can be a problem for you because 
your message doesn't get where you intended.? This message is just for 
your information.

73

Jim/W5JO
Moderator 

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From w5jo at att.net  Fri Sep 24 18:53:50 2010
From: w5jo at att.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:53:50 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
In-Reply-To: <655412.18139.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <655412.18139.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D2ADF39A9E1844A5A4FC2EFFCCE60CCB@JimPC>

Hi Mel,

Well welcome and I envy your Bauer.  Those are very nice transmitters 
and sound wonderful.  A friend up in South Dakota has one on 160 meters 
and I always delight talking to him.

Anyway, if you want on the AM Radio list, go here:

http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio

For AM Swap this is the place:

http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amswap

I believe this is the information you desire, but if not, let me know.

73

Jim/W5JO


----- Original Message ----- 

Hello Jim,

I get these email messages but can't for the life of me figure out where 
they started and why.

I am very much into Broadcast Transmitter restoration and have a Bauer 
707 up on 80 M. tell me a little about this group and how I can get back 
in.. Thanks

Mel, K6KBE



From farrerfolks at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 24 19:08:28 2010
From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:08:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
In-Reply-To: <D2ADF39A9E1844A5A4FC2EFFCCE60CCB@JimPC>
Message-ID: <477651.7338.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well maybe.? Since I got your email, I am obviously connected to something.? Is there a Yahoo group or similar that hosts this reflector??? The info you gave me is just a email stream as far as I can tell.? Not a reflector in the normal sense.

Mel

--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Jim Wilhite <w5jo at att.net> wrote:

From: Jim Wilhite <w5jo at att.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 3:53 PM

Hi Mel,

Well welcome and I envy your Bauer.? Those are very nice transmitters 
and sound wonderful.? A friend up in South Dakota has one on 160 meters 
and I always delight talking to him.

Anyway, if you want on the AM Radio list, go here:

http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio

For AM Swap this is the place:

http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amswap

I believe this is the information you desire, but if not, let me know.

73

Jim/W5JO


----- Original Message ----- 

Hello Jim,

I get these email messages but can't for the life of me figure out where 
they started and why.

I am very much into Broadcast Transmitter restoration and have a Bauer 
707 up on 80 M. tell me a little about this group and how I can get back 
in.. Thanks

Mel, K6KBE


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From soundval at muchstuff.com  Fri Sep 24 21:17:40 2010
From: soundval at muchstuff.com (MUCHSTUFF)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:17:40 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Looking for certain pictures boatanchors
In-Reply-To: <AD18E10E2C6A472EBF37F24184280F7C@JimPC>
References: <AD18E10E2C6A472EBF37F24184280F7C@JimPC>
Message-ID: <F3273418E4984223B2521F3EDD026684@Rippen>

Hi Jim,

I received the email below, but nothing from you

Gene
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at att.net>
To: "AM Radio Discussion List" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:14 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Looking for certain pictures boatanchors


> About ready to take the 2nd edition of TTT ( Tube Type Transmitters ) to 
> the
> printer.
> Its got about 800 pics now,ut some could be better, and some I don't 
> have.
> I'm looking for some pictures and/or specs of the equipment described 
> below.
> The pictures can be frontal, or of the top and front, or of the side and
> front, or of the front, side and top.
> The last choice is my favorite, the front, side and top.
> They can be color or shades of grayscale.
> They must come to me with full permission, from any copyright holder, to 
> use
> and publish.
> I will pay $5 to cover mailing, and your being annoyed, for the first
> picture
>        I select for each of these below for which I want pictures.
>         Thus, you need to check with me to see if I still need what you 
> may
>        have..
> So.... don't quit your daytime job just yet.  I will give 
> acknowledgements.
> The dates below are approximate.
> Don't fret about what's in the Pic. background, I'm used to cleaning 
> them
> up.
> I have already done the "Bama", "MODS.DE" and "Google" things.
> 
> In this first batch I'm looking for pics and some specs:
>    Ameco 6N2 transmitter.
>    Amperex 110 2 M amplifier. 1978
>    Appolo Products 2000X2  1979
>    ARD 250A
>    Drake:  DC-3,  and TC-6.
>    EICO  739
>    Elenco Power Gainer, Linear Amplifier. 1958
>    Elenco X4 SSB exiter.  1954
>    Emesco TR-6 and VFO-6,   1962
>    ERA narrow Band FM (transmitter? transceiver?)
>    Emp-Lab PKO-1  transmitter  1932.
>    ETI combination transmitter/code oscillator  1952.
>    Galaxy:  "2000B" Ampl., "225" (whatever?), "3" transceiver,
>        "G-1000" P.S.,  "Saturn" 10M, and "SC 550" console.
>    WRL  "Duo-Bander II"
>    Globe:  Duodyne770"  and  "VHF VFO 3020"
>    Kaar:   10A and 10X transmitters.
>    KW 2000.
>    Lafayette:  HE-51 and HE-61.
>    Lysco:  A-114, A129, A140 or A173.  (Any one of these)
>    Marine:  750B and MT-55.
>    Matric 50W.
>    McMurdo Silver:  "10-D", "10-F", "Jones All Band" and "Progressive"
>    Millen Transmatch Junior
>    National  "MNC-10-ASD"  and "Sixty Special"
>    PrePro  transmitter.
>    Radio Supply Co.:  "RF Amplifier 1935",  "XM-1" transmitter 1939,
>        and "XT-3" Exciter 1939,
>    Radio Trading Co.:  "10 meter breadboard"  1934 and
>        "2121 breadboard" transmitter?  1934.
>    Siltronix;  1011  ( A, B, C or D)
>    SUN PA500 (if this is a modulator or RF Ampl.)
>    SUNAIRE PLA-1000A Amplifier.
>    Transcon:  "Six" and "Ten"  1957.
>    Triplett  3286 (Transmitter?)  1947
>    Trutest 25 Watt Jr.  Transmitter.  1937.
>    Utah:  "250 Watt Modulator"  1937,   "50 Watt Modulator" 1937,
>        "500 Watt RF Amplifier"  1937, and  "Multiband Transmitter" 
> 1939.
>    UTC  30-AF Modulator, 1936.
>    Valenco 140  transmitter.  1954
>    Vantron 300 Linear Amplifier.
>    XWAN 230XC (whatever?)
> 
> Continued in another email.
> 
> Eugene Rippen, WB6SZS
> Auburn, CA 
> 
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From soundval at muchstuff.com  Fri Sep 24 21:18:14 2010
From: soundval at muchstuff.com (MUCHSTUFF)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:18:14 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Looking for pictures 2nd list
In-Reply-To: <B9EF52F0C39D49649CEFB8D6679AC792@JimPC>
References: <B9EF52F0C39D49649CEFB8D6679AC792@JimPC>
Message-ID: <0F4D4446F9404BBAB198D22D098E422A@Rippen>

Hi Jim,

and this email, too.

Gene

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at att.net>
To: "AM Radio Discussion List" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Looking for pictures 2nd list


> This email is a continuation.
> Here I'm wanting pics mostly.
> About ready to take the 2nd edition of TTT ( Tube Type Transmitters ) to 
> the
> printer.
> Its got about 800 pics now,ut some could be better, and some I don't 
> have.
> I'm looking for some pictures or specs of the equipment described below.
> The pictures can be frontal, or of the top and front, or of the side and
> front, or of the front, side and top.
> The last choice is my favorite, the front, side and top.
> They can be color or shades of grayscale.
> They must come to me with full permission, from any copyright holder, to 
> use
> and publish.
> I will pay $5 to cover mailing, and your being annoyed, for the first
> picture
>        I select for each of these below for which I want pictures.
>         Thus, you need to check with me to see if I still need what you 
> may
>        have..
> So.... don't quit your daytime job just yet.  I will give 
> acknowledgements.
> The dates below are approximate.
> Don't fret about what's in the Pic. background, I'm used to cleaning 
> them
> up.
> I have already done the "Bama", "MODS.DE" and "Google" things.
> 
> I just want Pics for this list, I have my Specs.
>    Atlas 2KW  (WRL product)  1963
>    Alpha 77DF
>    Arrow Novice Transmitter. 1955.
>    Audio Products Co. of Los Angeles  Power Amplifier.  1934.
>    Bandguard MF2/W transmitter.  1955
>    Browning  NLEC5  Ampl.  1939.
>    Bud:  BPA500  Amplifier. 1939,  and XT25C  transmitter.  1939.
>    Christy Jelectro QRP-60  1961.
>    Clegg: 6000-6,  600-2  or  600-1 1/4   (1 pic of any one of these)
>    Collins 30K  and  250-A.
>    Craftronics  CT-120 transmitter.
>    Creative  H-316 Airmaster   1959.
>    Delft  A, B, C and D  (One of each)  1931.
>    Dixon 75 transmitter.  1953.
>    Drake:  RV-3, RV-4, RV-6, T-4, T4X  and L-4.
>    Elenco 400T34,  400T4,  PA400   and  77.   1954
>    El-Tronics AE-30 transmitter.   1948
>    Galaxy:  RV-550 VFO and  GT-550A  transceiver.
>    Globe:  AT-3 & AT-4 Ant Tuners 1957.
>    Globe:  Scout 40-A,  40,  Chief 90A and Champion 300.
>    Hallicrafters  SR-42.
>    Hart 25 CW transmitter  1954.
>    KW.107
>    Knight T-60,  TR-106  and TR-108.
>    Lafayette  HE-61
>    Leeds:  50-TB transmitter,  and  C2 (1931)
>    Lysco  A-175A
>    Meissner:  150B   2CW,  6L6 and All Star.
>    Montgomery Ward Airline OR5
>    Morrow:  PW 10, 15, 20, 40 or 75.  (A pic of just any one)
>    National:  NTX-30 and  MSM modulator.
>    P&H  L200M (or is it L2000M?)
>    P&K  504 DX transmitter.
>    Radio-Television Supply:  4-25 exciter, Baby Bi-Push Transmitter
>        and  DeLuxe Bi-Push  1938(all)
>    REL:  135, 175 & "Hartley" transmitters.
>    REL: 185 power supply.
>    RME:  HG-303  and HG-602 transmitters.
>    Sonar:  SRT-120M and SRT-120P.
>    TBS:  TBL2000  Linear Amplifier.
>    Tecraft:  Sidewinder,  TR-20/144  and TR-20/50  transmitters.
>    Temco:  75GA and TA1000.
>    WRL:  15  (transmitter 1938), 150  &  150 RF CW, (transmitters 
> 1940),
>    WRL:   Exciter (1947 for Exciter)
>    WRL:  150 modulator  and 75 W modulator for the 150 transmitter. 
> 1940
>    WRL:   ECO VFO  (but, big VFO.  Has 6L6 and 807.  1941
>    WRL:   PSA-63A  power supply.
>    WRL:   SM-90 screen modulator.
>    Yaesu  FLdx-400/500 transmitter.
>    Yaesu  FT-101Z   1979
> 
> This may seem a lot, but I already have about 1600 items and 700 
> pictures.
> 
> These following are ones that I just need specs (no pictures).
>    "Cosmophone"   before 1958.  (Not Cosmophone 35 or 1000.)
>    "DeWald Radio-Phone"  Yes!  Ham equipment from DeWald.
> 
> 
> 
> Eugene Rippen,  WB6SZS
> Auburn, CA 
> 
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From soundval at muchstuff.com  Fri Sep 24 21:20:56 2010
From: soundval at muchstuff.com (MUCHSTUFF)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:20:56 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
In-Reply-To: <99DD622315E74B49AF4FD64F1C88051F@JimPC>
References: <99DD622315E74B49AF4FD64F1C88051F@JimPC>
Message-ID: <AC8C44B1D6FD45F0A002EDD3DFC6F140@Rippen>

Hi Jim,

No, I don't cross post to the list>

gene

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at att.net>
To: "AM Swap List" <amswap at mailman.qth.net>; "AM Radio Discussion List" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:30 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce


>I notice we have had a spate of bounced messages lately.  There seems to
> be two reasons.  If you put too many recipients on your message, the
> server won't let it through.  I see this a lot.  People will put AM
> Radio, AM Swap, Boatanchors, etc. ad infinitum and send the message.
> Or in the case of cross posting someone on one list will do a reply and
> send it to a list where they do not have a subscription and it won't
> work on our lists.
>
> Keep an eye open for that.
>
> The second is choosing a recipient from the message and trying to copy
> the address to the address field and the address is incorrect.
>
> These show up on my list of Administrative messages and, while they are
> not a particular problem for me, it can be a problem for you because
> your message doesn't get where you intended.  This message is just for
> your information.
>
> 73
>
> Jim/W5JO
> Moderator
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 24 23:44:34 2010
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:44:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] SCR299/HT4
Message-ID: <505893.48726.qm@web53204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Maybe this has made the rounds before, but got it in a local club email.  I may have already sent this to this group, but it is a good film. Click the link, it should work.

Charlie, W4MEC in NC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jps0_2adUvo


      

From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sat Sep 25 08:58:53 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:58:53 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] SCR299/HT4
In-Reply-To: <505893.48726.qm@web53204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <505893.48726.qm@web53204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004601cb5cb1$686000c0$39200240$@net>

I have watched this a dozen times and still love it...Thanks for the
reminder Bob W1PE

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of CL in NC
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:45 PM
To: AM radio
Subject: [AMRadio] SCR299/HT4

Maybe this has made the rounds before, but got it in a local club email.  I
may have already sent this to this group, but it is a good film. Click the
link, it should work.

Charlie, W4MEC in NC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jps0_2adUvo


      
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From w5omr at att.net  Sat Sep 25 08:54:02 2010
From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff Edmonson)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:54:02 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Messages that bounce
In-Reply-To: <AC8C44B1D6FD45F0A002EDD3DFC6F140@Rippen>
References: <99DD622315E74B49AF4FD64F1C88051F@JimPC>
	<AC8C44B1D6FD45F0A002EDD3DFC6F140@Rippen>
Message-ID: <4C9DF0EA.6010801@att.net>

  On 09/24/2010 08:20 PM, MUCHSTUFF wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> No, I don't cross post to the list>


Gene - I don't know -how- you are connected to the list, but you are 
apparently subscribed.
Not only that, 'individual emails' has been checked and that's how you 
are getting mail, one at a time.

When you send a mail back out, that has (in the Subject line) 
"[AMRadio]", you can pretty much rest assured, that your message is 
going out to everyone (~500) who're subscribed to the list, just as your 
last few messages that you thought were going to Jim have.

It's no big deal.  It's a learning process :-)

The best way to verify you're sending to the right address, is to make 
sure you know what address is in the "To:" space of your email client.  
In -my- case, it's "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>"

Best of Luck, Gene!

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR
(/5 Baja Spring, TX)



From jim.isbell at gmail.com  Sat Sep 25 10:02:37 2010
From: jim.isbell at gmail.com (Jim Isbell, W5JAI)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:02:37 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
choices, do you?

From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Sep 25 10:11:40 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:11:40 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C9E031C.2080402@comcast.net>

  Echolink links by the Internet to another ham that is using it and 
connects by means of "Instant Messaging".  No radio comms are used in 
this "disruption" of electrons", err - disturbed.

Bob - N0DGN

On 9/25/2010 10:02 AM, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
> Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
> and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
> how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
> repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
> choices, do you?


From chejmw at buffalo.edu  Sat Sep 25 10:56:20 2010
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:56:20 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
References: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8445B775174B4C79BE6F1ABC732FCE00@ESHOP1>

you need to click on the station callsign you want to talk to, I am trying 
your callsign now
but your "ap" seems to be slow at working
Jim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Isbell, W5JAI" <jim.isbell at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams


> Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
> and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
> how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
> repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
> choices, do you?
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From chejmw at buffalo.edu  Sat Sep 25 11:02:54 2010
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:02:54 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
References: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C9E031C.2080402@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C572EB3703DD42AEA6A700067DABA4E2@ESHOP1>

Hey Old fart BoB,
Turn that there new fangled device on sometimes and tell me how my niece is 
doing, give her
my love you OLD COOT!!!
Jim
SGT-Boo
WB2FCN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: <Jim.Isbell at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams


>  Echolink links by the Internet to another ham that is using it and
> connects by means of "Instant Messaging".  No radio comms are used in
> this "disruption" of electrons", err - disturbed.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 9/25/2010 10:02 AM, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
>> Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
>> and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
>> how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
>> repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
>> choices, do you?
>
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Sep 25 11:12:50 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:12:50 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
In-Reply-To: <C572EB3703DD42AEA6A700067DABA4E2@ESHOP1>
References: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>	<4C9E031C.2080402@comcast.net>
	<C572EB3703DD42AEA6A700067DABA4E2@ESHOP1>
Message-ID: <4C9E1172.2040801@comcast.net>

  Listen you old GOAT!

Upgrade to the "latest" echolink version!  You don't even show up in the 
list of stations!

Then "IF" you happen to be on-line when I have her HERE, I can let her 
talk to Uncle Boo!

She and her mother are moving in HERE.  She is divorcing the sorry 
excuse for a "father"!

Grandpa, (Dzia Dzia - in Polish!)
Witch Doctor - Bob


On 9/25/2010 11:02 AM, James M. Walker wrote:
> Hey Old fart BoB,
> Turn that there new fangled device on sometimes and tell me how my niece is
> doing, give her
> my love you OLD COOT!!!
> Jim
> SGT-Boo
> WB2FCN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rbethman"<rbethman at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc:<Jim.Isbell at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
>
>
>>   Echolink links by the Internet to another ham that is using it and
>> connects by means of "Instant Messaging".  No radio comms are used in
>> this "disruption" of electrons", err - disturbed.
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>> On 9/25/2010 10:02 AM, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
>>> Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
>>> and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
>>> how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
>>> repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
>>> choices, do you?
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Sep 25 11:16:28 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:16:28 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
In-Reply-To: <4C9E1172.2040801@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>	<4C9E031C.2080402@comcast.net>	<C572EB3703DD42AEA6A700067DABA4E2@ESHOP1>
	<4C9E1172.2040801@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C9E124C.4000609@comcast.net>

  My apologies to the ENTIRE list!

The REPLY/REPLY ALL differences bit Jim and I AGAIN!

Mea Culpa!

Bob - N0DGN

>>>    Echolink links by the Internet to another ham that is using it and
>>> connects by means of "Instant Messaging".  No radio comms are used in
>>> this "disruption" of electrons", err - disturbed.
>>>
>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>
>>> On 9/25/2010 10:02 AM, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
>>>> Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
>>>> and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
>>>> how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
>>>> repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
>>>> choices, do you?
>>> ______


From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Sep 25 11:31:16 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:31:16 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa
Message-ID: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net>

  I sincerely apologize to ALL members!

Of ALL the different reflectors I subscribe to - this is the ONLY one 
with "REPLY" that goes to the LIST as a WHOLE.

This has been unfortunate, in that TWICE now I've managed to get 
"personal" traffic on the LIST.

Mea Culpa!   I screwed the pooch once more!

BTW - Jim Isabell and I DID get Echolink to work!

Sincerely Apologetic,
Bob - N0DGN

From jim.isbell at gmail.com  Sat Sep 25 11:51:39 2010
From: jim.isbell at gmail.com (Jim Isbell, W5JAI)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:51:39 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa
In-Reply-To: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net>
References: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinre_szonNwMPe1jxcx2DcVjjO7i74=ZyMfZd6S@mail.gmail.com>

Question, was that AM or FM or SSB or something entirely different/// LOL

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:31 AM, rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net> wrote:

>  I sincerely apologize to ALL members!
>
> Of ALL the different reflectors I subscribe to - this is the ONLY one
> with "REPLY" that goes to the LIST as a WHOLE.
>
> This has been unfortunate, in that TWICE now I've managed to get
> "personal" traffic on the LIST.
>
> Mea Culpa!   I screwed the pooch once more!
>
> BTW - Jim Isabell and I DID get Echolink to work!
>
> Sincerely Apologetic,
> Bob - N0DGN
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From kf0xo-1 at msn.com  Sat Sep 25 12:18:00 2010
From: kf0xo-1 at msn.com (kf0xo-1 at msn.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:18:00 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa
In-Reply-To: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net>
References: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU140-W337420262565FAEAEFC009F3630@phx.gbl>


Kind of like setting on your microphone. We all do it or have done it. It happens.

> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:31:16 -0400
> From: rbethman at comcast.net
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa
> 
>   I sincerely apologize to ALL members!
> 
> Of ALL the different reflectors I subscribe to - this is the ONLY one 
> with "REPLY" that goes to the LIST as a WHOLE.
> 
> This has been unfortunate, in that TWICE now I've managed to get 
> "personal" traffic on the LIST.
> 
> Mea Culpa!   I screwed the pooch once more!
> 
> BTW - Jim Isabell and I DID get Echolink to work!
> 
> Sincerely Apologetic,
> Bob - N0DGN
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Sep 25 12:27:49 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:27:49 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa
In-Reply-To: <BLU140-W337420262565FAEAEFC009F3630@phx.gbl>
References: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net>
	<BLU140-W337420262565FAEAEFC009F3630@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C9E2305.4040102@comcast.net>

  Boy howdy does that EVER apply!

I just sent the apology - SINCE the last time that "Jim" and "I" managed 
to do so, one or two folk got REAL upset!

S%@# Happens!

Bob - N0DGN

On 9/25/2010 12:18 PM, kf0xo-1 at msn.com wrote:
> Kind of like setting on your microphone. We all do it or have done it. It happens.


From kk7iz at cox.net  Sat Sep 25 12:35:55 2010
From: kk7iz at cox.net (Lloyd Godsey)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:35:55 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa
In-Reply-To: <4C9E2305.4040102@comcast.net>
References: <4C9E15C4.6020001@comcast.net><BLU140-W337420262565FAEAEFC009F3630@phx.gbl>
	<4C9E2305.4040102@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <26517D743C6044468BA3D60F4CA82891@LloydPC>

Learn to spell. Its   $#!+
Thanx
Lloyd Godsey  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145
www.kk7iz-parts.com
www.lloydsdipsydumpster.com/

--------------------------------------------------
From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:27 AM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Mea Culpa

>  Boy howdy does that EVER apply!
>
> I just sent the apology - SINCE the last time that "Jim" and "I" managed
> to do so, one or two folk got REAL upset!
>
> S%@# Happens!
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 9/25/2010 12:18 PM, kf0xo-1 at msn.com wrote:
>> Kind of like setting on your microphone. We all do it or have done it. It 
>> happens.
>
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From w5omr at att.net  Sat Sep 25 23:39:56 2010
From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff Edmonson)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:39:56 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Totally off subject but of interest to Hams
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=CAZBXYqpYKKDd2uUhnEfCmTjZu4VqH4Vyj7xn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C9EC08C.5010706@att.net>

  On 09/25/2010 09:02 AM, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
> Ok, I know this is off subject, but I have a question.  I have downloaded
> and registered the echolink app on my new Droid X.  But I dont understand
> how it actually makes contact to other hams?  Is it just through 2 meter
> repeaters or are there other "links"?  I dont see where you have any
> choices, do you?

I can engage in this topic, if it's not deemed off-topic for the list by 
the moderators.

-Geoff/W5OMR


From donmcm63 at bellsouth.net  Sun Sep 26 04:30:32 2010
From: donmcm63 at bellsouth.net (Donald R McMurray)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:30:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
Message-ID: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have had some health problems the past few years.

I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx 60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the 12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you could call it that. 

While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.

Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a band that is predominately SSB?

I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology).

I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in amateur radio, versus SSB.

I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's

Donald McMurray
Kingston, TN
mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net


From k5xu at comcast.net  Sun Sep 26 07:10:37 2010
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:10:37 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <22367757A0124E62AFFA204D292E72C2@K5XU>

Greetings,

You will likely receive many replies to your questions as there are 
some very helpful people on this list.

The person who suggested that you listen to the ham bands was correct. 
Reading that comment caused me to remember doing exactly that from age 
11 until the time I was first licensed at age 14. That was 41 years 
ago next month, in October, 1969.

I used everything from window screens to as much wire as I could 
string through the yard for receiving antennas. Some of them worked 
better than others, but I didn't have anything nearly as good as a 
TS930 for a receiver.

You are coming into a good time of the year to listen to AM activity. 
That's because the static level will drop significantly from about now 
through March or early April.

You will hear the most AM activity on 3.885. There are two nets on 
this frequency, one on Tuesday, and one on Thursday. People begin 
gathering for both of these activities as early as 5:00 PM central 
time.

You will also hear activity on this frequency around that time, and 
during the early morning on most other days.

Here are other frequencies and times for listening to AM. The times 
are listed in central time.

1.885 and 1.985 (evenings, especially during the winter).

3.663 (mornings around 7:30 - 9:00) This group from Louisiana and 
Arkansas will begin on ssb, then switch to AM.

3.675 (Sunday morning at 5:30 - 7:00) This is the Florida AM Net. You 
will hear most of the stations quite well during the late fall and 
winter.

3.725 (mornings until around 9:00)

3.880 (mornings and evenings) Lots of Texas stations and a few from 
Arkansas and the Midwest.

3.990 (mornings, and sometimes evenings) There's a group of Texas, 
Arkansas, and Oklahoma stations that hang out here. They have a good 
net beginning at 7:30 AM on Saturday.

7.160 (Saturday and Sunday between 1:00 and 3:00 PM, plus other random 
evenings) The daytime activity is some of the same people from 3.663. 
Sometimes in the evening, you will hear stations from the east or west 
coasts.

7.290 and 7.295 (daytime) There doesn't appear to be as much activity 
here as there once was, but there are still some good signals. A 
traffic net from Texas uses 7.290 part of the day, so check 7.295 for 
AM when it is operating.

14.286 (early evenings) Again, there isn't nearly as much activity 
here as there was a year or two ago.

21.415 - 21.450 (daytime, mainly weekends) When 15 meters is open, you 
can hear some really good AM signals.

29.000 - 29.100 (daytime, especially weekends) You may not hear much 
on this part of 10 meters right now, but as it begins to open up 
again, you will hear bunches of AM signals from everywhere, many only 
running a few watts.

The AM filter in the TS930 is a little broad, especially on 75 meters, 
but don't let that discourage you from listening.

Keep listening and studying for that license.

73,

Mike Duke, K5XU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald R McMurray" <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:30 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


Hello everyone,

I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have 
had some health problems the past few years.

I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx 
60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better than 
I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the house. 
I run it through the window and close the window on it. It doesn't 
seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the 12 awg 
strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very short and 
small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make good contact. 
Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you could call it 
that.

While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would be 
more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to 
listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not transmitting 
until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been doing all this 
listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I almost have all the 
parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter dipole. I have studied 
our property and I know I can get it 50' high but I'm hoping for 60' 
which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have other antennas in mind for 
the other HF bands.

Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the 
bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you usually 
use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a band that is 
predominately SSB?

I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn about 
full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is either 
the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if I'm using 
the wrong terminology).

I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in amateur 
radio, versus SSB.

I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's

Donald McMurray
Kingston, TN
mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net

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From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 25 14:10:44 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:10:44 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
Message-ID: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, I have finally had some time to check out the Globe Champ 350 
that I got from my Dad (W5JHJ - SK). I used a variac and brought up 
the voltage slowly during the morning to be nice to the 
electrolytics. I finally had it up to 120 VAC and decided to try a 
tune-up. Everything seems to work! Switches are dirty, but a bit of 
contact cleaner carefully applied should help that.

I had to do the tune up all by memory. At one time, I know that my 
Dad had the original manual for it, along with the original sales 
slip. In that manual, he had noted what mods he had made. 
Unfortunately that has somehow disappeared, so I'll need to get 
another copy of the manual.

I'm now doing the same with his Hammarlund HQ-170 receiver, to get it 
back up to snuff. I'll need to get a manual for that, too, as all of 
his manuals were missing. I don't have the rigs in my shack, yet. I 
also need to set up a 4 position coax switch "backwards" so that I 
can use all my rigs with the same antennas without playing with coax 
connectors.

I have a very small bit of work to do with the Champ: Dad had mounted 
a small Dayton blower on the side to help control heat. It was 
plugged into a switched 120 VAC outlet on the back of the rig. That 
socket was broken during the move, so I need to fix that. I may need 
nothing more than some epoxy, but I'll have to look carefully.

I'd like to set it up with the HQ-170, but may need to rearrange some 
equipment to fit it all in. I really wish I had all of Dad's 
documentation, but I at least have the rig. I hope that in the near 
future, I can play a bit of AM with the rest of you!

73,

Kim Elmore, N5OP


From w3slk at verizon.net  Sun Sep 26 09:39:24 2010
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:39:24 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
References: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7C237DFA16B14EF48ABE75C59557FCA3@FAMILY>

Kim, (and others),
    Be very mindful that the Achilles heal to this rig and its subsequent 
older brethren is the LVPS transformer. Somehow, Leo Myerson and crew, got 
damn near everything on this transformer that they could. Most of all the 
filament voltage, (2 X 6.3vac, 2.5vac, 5vac, 12.6vac)  as well as 100V and 
900V taps. This produces allot of heat for the core. I found this out the 
hard way!
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:10 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350


Well, I have finally had some time to check out the Globe Champ 350
that I got from my Dad (W5JHJ - SK). I used a variac and brought up
the voltage slowly during the morning to be nice to the
electrolytics. I finally had it up to 120 VAC and decided to try a
tune-up. Everything seems to work! Switches are dirty, but a bit of
contact cleaner carefully applied should help that.

I had to do the tune up all by memory. At one time, I know that my
Dad had the original manual for it, along with the original sales
slip. In that manual, he had noted what mods he had made.
Unfortunately that has somehow disappeared, so I'll need to get
another copy of the manual.

I'm now doing the same with his Hammarlund HQ-170 receiver, to get it
back up to snuff. I'll need to get a manual for that, too, as all of
his manuals were missing. I don't have the rigs in my shack, yet. I
also need to set up a 4 position coax switch "backwards" so that I
can use all my rigs with the same antennas without playing with coax
connectors.

I have a very small bit of work to do with the Champ: Dad had mounted
a small Dayton blower on the side to help control heat. It was
plugged into a switched 120 VAC outlet on the back of the rig. That
socket was broken during the move, so I need to fix that. I may need
nothing more than some epoxy, but I'll have to look carefully.

I'd like to set it up with the HQ-170, but may need to rearrange some
equipment to fit it all in. I really wish I had all of Dad's
documentation, but I at least have the rig. I hope that in the near
future, I can play a bit of AM with the rest of you!

73,

Kim Elmore, N5OP




From k8wbl at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 26 09:48:14 2010
From: k8wbl at yahoo.com (Tim Kass)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:48:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <891348.53345.qm@web65810.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Sounds like an easy project to get those beauties on the air again.. like to hear how that Champion sounds.
?
73, Tim K8WBL

--- On Sat, 9/25/10, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:10 PM


Well, I have finally had some time to check out the Globe Champ 350 
that I got from my Dad (W5JHJ - SK). I used a variac and brought up 
the voltage slowly during the morning to be nice to the 
electrolytics. I finally had it up to 120 VAC and decided to try a 
tune-up. Everything seems to work! Switches are dirty, but a bit of 
contact cleaner carefully applied should help that.

I had to do the tune up all by memory. At one time, I know that my 
Dad had the original manual for it, along with the original sales 
slip. In that manual, he had noted what mods he had made. 
Unfortunately that has somehow disappeared, so I'll need to get 
another copy of the manual.

I'm now doing the same with his Hammarlund HQ-170 receiver, to get it 
back up to snuff. I'll need to get a manual for that, too, as all of 
his manuals were missing. I don't have the rigs in my shack, yet. I 
also need to set up a 4 position coax switch "backwards" so that I 
can use all my rigs with the same antennas without playing with coax 
connectors.

I have a very small bit of work to do with the Champ: Dad had mounted 
a small Dayton blower on the side to help control heat. It was 
plugged into a switched 120 VAC outlet on the back of the rig. That 
socket was broken during the move, so I need to fix that. I may need 
nothing more than some epoxy, but I'll have to look carefully.

I'd like to set it up with the HQ-170, but may need to rearrange some 
equipment to fit it all in. I really wish I had all of Dad's 
documentation, but I at least have the rig. I hope that in the near 
future, I can play a bit of AM with the rest of you!

73,

Kim Elmore, N5OP

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From w5jo at att.net  Sun Sep 26 09:58:36 2010
From: w5jo at att.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:58:36 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <7C237DFA16B14EF48ABE75C59557FCA3@FAMILY>
References: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7C237DFA16B14EF48ABE75C59557FCA3@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <392722CC7C1C41569F630154639B161E@JimPC>

This is the weak point of the Champion series for sure.  One thing you 
should do, no matter what, is check that 3 section electrolytic 
capacitor in the audio section of the transmitter.  That thing along 
with those in the bias string are critical.  If they leak they add to 
the load on the transformer and that can cause all sorts or grief (Mikey 
knows).

I suggest you simply change them before you do anything else.  If they 
are original, they are most likely dry.  In the 3 Champs I have had, I 
used a Dremel Tool to cut the case and stuffed modern caps in the case. 
Should they work now, they probably will dry out in a short period of 
time anyway.  Replace them for safety's sake.

73

Jim/W5JO
----- Original Message ----- 



> Kim, (and others),
>    Be very mindful that the Achilles heal to this rig and its 
> subsequent
> older brethren is the LVPS transformer. Somehow, Leo Myerson and crew, 
> got
> damn near everything on this transformer that they could. Most of all 
> the
> filament voltage, (2 X 6.3vac, 2.5vac, 5vac, 12.6vac)  as well as 100V 
> and
> 900V taps. This produces allot of heat for the core. I found this out 
> the
> hard way!
> Mod-U-Lator,
> Mike(y)
> W3SLK


From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Sun Sep 26 10:09:07 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:09:07 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <07C5F75EAA574901A0454F86A99E835F@GregMijalPC>

In my own experience, running up the rig slowly with the original 
electrolytics may bring the old girl back to life but doesn't mean she's 
ready to leave the hospital.  Transmitters have a funny habit of coming back 
then blowing an old electrolytic, days or weeks later.  I think it's the 
changing current load requirement as the rig is tuned then operated. 
Receivers are better due to the nearly constant load.  For a heavy weight 
transmitter my habit is to recap the entire radio and clear out all the 
obvious trouble spots then burn the rig in for a week.  Burn in means keep 
the radio on and nearby and make an occassional transmission into a dummy 
load for 1-2 minutes.  The burn in really helps you spot what's left to do 
and will delivery a more trouble free machine for you.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:10 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350


> Well, I have finally had some time to check out the Globe Champ 350
> that I got from my Dad (W5JHJ - SK). I used a variac and brought up
> the voltage slowly during the morning to be nice to the
> electrolytics. I finally had it up to 120 VAC and decided to try a
> tune-up. Everything seems to work! Switches are dirty, but a bit of
> contact cleaner carefully applied should help that.
>
> I had to do the tune up all by memory. At one time, I know that my
> Dad had the original manual for it, along with the original sales
> slip. In that manual, he had noted what mods he had made.
> Unfortunately that has somehow disappeared, so I'll need to get
> another copy of the manual.
>
> I'm now doing the same with his Hammarlund HQ-170 receiver, to get it
> back up to snuff. I'll need to get a manual for that, too, as all of
> his manuals were missing. I don't have the rigs in my shack, yet. I
> also need to set up a 4 position coax switch "backwards" so that I
> can use all my rigs with the same antennas without playing with coax
> connectors.
>
> I have a very small bit of work to do with the Champ: Dad had mounted
> a small Dayton blower on the side to help control heat. It was
> plugged into a switched 120 VAC outlet on the back of the rig. That
> socket was broken during the move, so I need to fix that. I may need
> nothing more than some epoxy, but I'll have to look carefully.
>
> I'd like to set it up with the HQ-170, but may need to rearrange some
> equipment to fit it all in. I really wish I had all of Dad's
> documentation, but I at least have the rig. I hope that in the near
> future, I can play a bit of AM with the rest of you!
>
> 73,
>
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
>
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Sun Sep 26 10:33:27 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:33:27 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <07C5F75EAA574901A0454F86A99E835F@GregMijalPC>
References: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<07C5F75EAA574901A0454F86A99E835F@GregMijalPC>
Message-ID: <4C9F59B7.50407@comcast.net>

  Kim,

You've gotten a LOT of "great" advice.

1) Replace the original capacitors.

2) Do the burn in.

Now for the "heresy" aspect:

     The power xfmr was designed for lower voltage from the wall.

     Try adding a "bucking" transformer.

     Consider an "outboard" transformer for some of the filament and low 
voltages.

You have one heck of a gem!  Do your best to keep it alive and well!

Regarding the HQ-170.  What precisely do you want/need?

I have an original manual for the HQ-170 that I obtained off "Flea-Bay".

I also have a 5MB PDF for the HQ-170A *IF* your E-mail can handle it.

Bob - N0DGN

> From: "Kim Elmore"<cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> To:<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:10 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
>
>
>> Well, I have finally had some time to check out the Globe Champ 350
>> that I got from my Dad (W5JHJ - SK). I used a variac and brought up
>> the voltage slowly during the morning to be nice to the
>> electrolytics. I finally had it up to 120 VAC and decided to try a
>> tune-up. Everything seems to work! Switches are dirty, but a bit of
>> contact cleaner carefully applied should help that.
>>
>> I had to do the tune up all by memory. At one time, I know that my
>> Dad had the original manual for it, along with the original sales
>> slip. In that manual, he had noted what mods he had made.
>> Unfortunately that has somehow disappeared, so I'll need to get
>> another copy of the manual.
>>
>> I'm now doing the same with his Hammarlund HQ-170 receiver, to get it
>> back up to snuff. I'll need to get a manual for that, too, as all of
>> his manuals were missing. I don't have the rigs in my shack, yet. I
>> also need to set up a 4 position coax switch "backwards" so that I
>> can use all my rigs with the same antennas without playing with coax
>> connectors.
>>
>> I have a very small bit of work to do with the Champ: Dad had mounted
>> a small Dayton blower on the side to help control heat. It was
>> plugged into a switched 120 VAC outlet on the back of the rig. That
>> socket was broken during the move, so I need to fix that. I may need
>> nothing more than some epoxy, but I'll have to look carefully.
>>
>> I'd like to set it up with the HQ-170, but may need to rearrange some
>> equipment to fit it all in. I really wish I had all of Dad's
>> documentation, but I at least have the rig. I hope that in the near
>> future, I can play a bit of AM with the rest of you!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Kim Elmore, N5OP


From w3slk at verizon.net  Sun Sep 26 10:50:22 2010
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:50:22 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
References: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<07C5F75EAA574901A0454F86A99E835F@GregMijalPC>
	<4C9F59B7.50407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CA0444495FF74372986A7D88D597447E@FAMILY>

No heresy implied Bob.
    But it is quite clear that WRL stuffed 6 pounds of schei?en in a 5 pound 
bag. There's just too much to overheat that core. Been there, had it happen, 
(including the fire dept!).
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350


  Kim,

You've gotten a LOT of "great" advice.

1) Replace the original capacitors.

2) Do the burn in.

Now for the "heresy" aspect:

     The power xfmr was designed for lower voltage from the wall.

     Try adding a "bucking" transformer.

     Consider an "outboard" transformer for some of the filament and low
voltages.

You have one heck of a gem!  Do your best to keep it alive and well!

Regarding the HQ-170.  What precisely do you want/need?

I have an original manual for the HQ-170 that I obtained off "Flea-Bay".

I also have a 5MB PDF for the HQ-170A *IF* your E-mail can handle it.

Bob - N0DGN




From rbethman at comcast.net  Sun Sep 26 11:07:49 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:07:49 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <CA0444495FF74372986A7D88D597447E@FAMILY>
References: <566751.41164.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<07C5F75EAA574901A0454F86A99E835F@GregMijalPC>	<4C9F59B7.50407@comcast.net>
	<CA0444495FF74372986A7D88D597447E@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <4C9F61C5.4090808@comcast.net>

  No, no one BUT me started the "heresy" aspect!

All of us know and realize the over utilized transformer.

I was "providing" possible solutions to the "6 pounds of schei?en in a 5 
pound

bag".

This is where *I* proposed the "heretic" solutions, I.E.,
> Now for the "heresy" aspect:
>
>       The power xfmr was designed for lower voltage from the wall.
>
>       Try adding a "bucking" transformer.
>
>       Consider an "outboard" transformer for some of the filament and low
> voltages
It ends up being "heresy" to the "purists".  It is in reality, a "real world" solution to the problem(s) inherent in this original manufactured *fine* Gem of a radio!

Therefore, I labeled THAT segment as "Heresy"!

I'm inclined to think outside the box.  How else would I run a BC-610 on today's 127VAC supplied power - when it was built and designed for 110VAC?

I have a HUGE Superior Mfg. Variac.  It will easily handle 40 to 50A.  It can either be wired to take the 240VAC or it can be wired for the available 127VAC and get it down to 110VAC.

It is a matter of using that thing called "common sense".  I've heard that this entity has passed away!  (LOL!)

Bob - N0DGN



On 9/26/2010 10:50 AM, Mike Sawyer wrote:
> No heresy implied Bob.
>      But it is quite clear that WRL stuffed 6 pounds of schei?en in a 5 pound
> bag. There's just too much to overheat that core. Been there, had it happen,
> (including the fire dept!).
> Mod-U-Lator,
> Mike(y)
> W3SLK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rbethman"<rbethman at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
>
>
>    Kim,
>
> You've gotten a LOT of "great" advice.
>
> 1) Replace the original capacitors.
>
> 2) Do the burn in.
>
> Now for the "heresy" aspect:
>
>       The power xfmr was designed for lower voltage from the wall.
>
>       Try adding a "bucking" transformer.
>
>       Consider an "outboard" transformer for some of the filament and low
> voltages.
>
> You have one heck of a gem!  Do your best to keep it alive and well!
>
> Regarding the HQ-170.  What precisely do you want/need?
>
> I have an original manual for the HQ-170 that I obtained off "Flea-Bay".
>
> I also have a 5MB PDF for the HQ-170A *IF* your E-mail can handle it.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
>
>
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From oldradio at comcast.net  Sun Sep 26 11:12:10 2010
From: oldradio at comcast.net (oldradio at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:12:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <392722CC7C1C41569F630154639B161E@JimPC>
Message-ID: <944099776.2096418.1285513930189.JavaMail.root@sz0128a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


What about running a separate filament transformer?  One could remove the string(s) from the original transformer and carefully run a cable out the back to another filament transformer sitting somewhere behind the transmitter.  That should lessen the load and heat.  Might not be beautiful, but would keep her running.

And yes, change the caps.

73, John Dilks, K2TQN


-.-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at att.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:58:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350

This is the weak point of the Champion series for sure.  One thing you 
should do, no matter what, is check that 3 section electrolytic 
capacitor in the audio section of the transmitter.  That thing along 
with those in the bias string are critical.  If they leak they add to 
the load on the transformer and that can cause all sorts or grief (Mikey 
knows).

I suggest you simply change them before you do anything else.  If they 
are original, they are most likely dry.  In the 3 Champs I have had, I 
used a Dremel Tool to cut the case and stuffed modern caps in the case. 
Should they work now, they probably will dry out in a short period of 
time anyway.  Replace them for safety's sake.

73

Jim/W5JO
----- Original Message ----- 

From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 26 12:00:18 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:00:18 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <7C237DFA16B14EF48ABE75C59557FCA3@FAMILY>
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I should add that I think Dad also re-capped the HQ-170 as well. He 
performed some mods to it that are obvious: it has a BNC IF output 
port on it, and he has changed the antenna inputs for both the HF and 
VHF (6 m) antennas to be high-quality SO-239s. I remember that the 6 
m antenna port was for 300 ohm twin lead. If my memory is right, that 
also means that he probably added an impedance transformer inside 
somewhere for the 6 m antenna port. He also added a 1/8" phone plug 
to the speaker output.

It's probably wise advice to add an outboard power source for the 
filament supply -- that alone is a significant load. He has 3B28's as 
the HV rectifiers, not the old 866As. I loved the beautiful blue from 
the 866As, but he kept having problems with them flashing over and 
becoming poisoned, so he switched to the 3B28s and had no further problems.

I know that he made other mods to the Globe: I think he changed a 
bias circuit in it, possibly the scree supply, and disabled the "SSB" 
position of the mode switch, which changed the amd made the a linear 
amplifier for use with a DSB exciter made by WRL. So, it's not 
original. But, it had been his since new (bought in 1959 for the 
princely sum of $450 as a kit) and it was the rig I operated through 
about 1980 or so. So, it's certainly precious to me!

73,

Kim Elmore N5OP
OOTC 4563
QCWA 32279
FISTS 11093
ARRL Life



At 08:39 AM 9/26/2010, Mike Sawyer wrote:
>Kim, (and others),
>     Be very mindful that the Achilles heal to this rig and its subsequent
>older brethren is the LVPS transformer. Somehow, Leo Myerson and crew, got
>damn near everything on this transformer that they could. Most of all the
>filament voltage, (2 X 6.3vac, 2.5vac, 5vac, 12.6vac)  as well as 100V and
>900V taps. This produces allot of heat for the core. I found this out the
>hard way!
>Mod-U-Lator,
>Mike(y)
>W3SLK
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kim Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
>To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:10 PM
>Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
>
>
>Well, I have finally had some time to check out the Globe Champ 350
>that I got from my Dad (W5JHJ - SK). I used a variac and brought up
>the voltage slowly during the morning to be nice to the
>electrolytics. I finally had it up to 120 VAC and decided to try a
>tune-up. Everything seems to work! Switches are dirty, but a bit of
>contact cleaner carefully applied should help that.
>
>I had to do the tune up all by memory. At one time, I know that my
>Dad had the original manual for it, along with the original sales
>slip. In that manual, he had noted what mods he had made.
>Unfortunately that has somehow disappeared, so I'll need to get
>another copy of the manual.
>
>I'm now doing the same with his Hammarlund HQ-170 receiver, to get it
>back up to snuff. I'll need to get a manual for that, too, as all of
>his manuals were missing. I don't have the rigs in my shack, yet. I
>also need to set up a 4 position coax switch "backwards" so that I
>can use all my rigs with the same antennas without playing with coax
>connectors.
>
>I have a very small bit of work to do with the Champ: Dad had mounted
>a small Dayton blower on the side to help control heat. It was
>plugged into a switched 120 VAC outlet on the back of the rig. That
>socket was broken during the move, so I need to fix that. I may need
>nothing more than some epoxy, but I'll have to look carefully.
>
>I'd like to set it up with the HQ-170, but may need to rearrange some
>equipment to fit it all in. I really wish I had all of Dad's
>documentation, but I at least have the rig. I hope that in the near
>future, I can play a bit of AM with the rest of you!
>
>73,
>
>Kim Elmore, N5OP
>
>
>
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From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 26 12:02:36 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:02:36 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Globe Champ 350
In-Reply-To: <7C237DFA16B14EF48ABE75C59557FCA3@FAMILY>
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I want to thank everyone for their input and advice!  I need to 
check, but I vaguely recall that my Dad replaced all the 
electrolytics in the transmitter a few years before he died (which 
was in 2007). I know for a fact that the LV and HV electrolytics have 
been replaced. I'm not sure what others were replaced, but opening it 
up and looking should make it clear. I don't believe he documented 
their replacement, but told me that he'd done it. I think, but am not 
certain (gotta look) that the and that the selenium rectifiers have 
also been replaced with silicon rectifiers.

I know that WRL tried to put every winding in one transformer, and 
that's not the best idea for long term reliability.  Something to 
work on these winter nights!

73,

Kim Elmore N5OP


From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sun Sep 26 13:30:34 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:30:34 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Donald R McMurray
<donmcm63 at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a band that is predominately SSB?

Welcome aboard as a potential AMer, Donald. The effectiveness if AM vs
SSB or CW will really depend on what you're expecting for results as
well as what you run for equipment, power, and so on. SSB is more
efficient for long distant contacts, sure. But also more fatiguing to
listen to over extended periods of time, and lacking the more human
feel of an armchair copy AM contact. Few of us are monolithic and also
enjoy a bit of CW, SSB for DX work, or some other mode. But most can
be found spending the majority of their radio time on good ol' AM. It
does help to run a healthy signal of course, 100 watts minimum for
75-80m most evenings and quite often even that will land you in the
'weak copy' category if the band is busy or noisy. 200 watts or more
will make your presence known most night. A decent 811 amp or similar
on your 930 should do the trick.

An AMer calling CQ with a reasonable signal will stand out from the
SSB garble, making your S-meter rise upscale and stay there as they
tune or call. Much easier to tune in than SSB too.

> I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology).

Maybe 'full signal' is appropriate. SSB utilizing only a portion of a
full AM signal.
> I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in amateur radio, versus SSB.

As a fellow I was talking with this morning said "AM operating is a
lot like what I remember amateur radio being like when I listened as a
kid". Generally speaking, it's a more relaxed style of communicating
that is as much about the social aspect as the technical. While there
are always exceptions (idiots and troublemakers, regardless of mode),
I think you'll find the AM community to be the most technically-astute
and active group out there in the design, building, and restoration of
equipment. If you go to a decent sized hamfest, you'll find the AMers
also tend to have a lot of social activities going on from cook outs
and BBQs to dinners, parties, and whatever else. As we've aged and
gone through the boatanchor/more toys phase, the time together with
friends has become more important.

And also as with SSB, don't be discouraged if you hear some bad
behavior on the bands. It does happen, but the vast majority of AMers
are a decent lot who simply enjoy the pleasant sound and experience of
the mode. I'm east of you in NC and work stations in TN quite easily,
so I hope to hear you on the bands someday soon.

73 -

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From kelly at k7su.com  Sun Sep 26 14:22:30 2010
From: kelly at k7su.com (K7SU)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:22:30 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTimhKaM5fUXq_phNL8M3EiGzX0rctdVVHy=9KPhs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5BD47CBCA7B644149F60B3C7CC57AA32@basement>

I guess I will join in here a bit if that's ok.  I just happened to read 
this post and it looks interesting.  Just signed up to this relfector about 
a week or so ago.

Hi Todd and the group.  This is Kelly,  K7SU.  I live in Twin Falls, Idaho. 
I just got the AM bug awhile back and have been having lots of fun with it. 
Since I'm the president of our local club , Magic Valley Amateur Radio Club, 
www.K7MVA.org, I'm always trying to come up with fun and different 
activities to keep the interest going for the members.  I just recently 
decided to start a get together on 75 meter phone for AMers.  Most are 
local's from the club but others are beginning to join in now also.  We meet 
at 0830 local time around 3870, give or take QRM, on Sunday mornings and 
just have a round-table discussion.  We call it the RETRO-net after one of 
the local's starting call it...and it just kinda stuck. But it's not a 
net...it's just a bunch of us getting together in the same spot on the dial 
and yacking about anyting that comes up.  We've been having a ball.  We have 
anywhere from 6 to 10, depending on what's going on that day.  We have died 
in the wool AMers who check in with their boat anchors, and others who are 
curious...don't have the old equipment, and check in with their rice boxes. 
ALL are welcome.

This is somewhat of an attempt on my part to get the Tech's to listen in and 
get enthused about upgrading and realize there is more to ham radio than the 
VHF-FM "shack-on-a-belt" through the local repeater that they can only talk 
on during a level-1 emergency!  We have hams around here who have $$$ 
wrapped up on handhelds, take three or four of them everywhere they go, 
attend all the emergency training sessions, and have never talked on their 
radios....they are waiting for that big emergency to hit I guess.  (But, I 
will save my soapbox on that for later.)

Meanwhile, back to the HOBBY of amateur radio....I have three AM 
rigs.....HT-37/NC-300 combo, another HT-37/R-388 combo, both of which I 
usually run through my AL-80B amp at around 400 watts, and a Viking 
II/HQ-180A that I run barefoot at 100 watts.  I also have a Kenwood TS-2000 
with AM but haven't used it on AM yet.  I have found that many of the AM 
signals out here get lost in the noise/qrm/qrn but late afternoon/early 
evening operation out here can be very enjoyable if you can find someone on. 
Also, our Sunday AM group is very enjoyable too.

I've also noticed that many of the guys have great signals, but MUSHY sound 
when they try to make it sound like HI FI...a bass-y warm sound that works 
well on AM broadcast but makes for difficult hearing with much of a noise 
floor.  One of the best AM sounds I've heard is a local guy who runs an 
Elecraft K3 with a heil mic!

Anyway, as I explore the world of AM, I find I'm learing a lot about sound 
and propagation, and just having a lot of fun.  For longer distance 
communications, on the lower bands anyway, you're better off with SSB but 
within 500 miles or so, AM is really cool.

73

Kelly  K7SU
www.K7SU.com
www.K7MVA.org



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur 
Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:30
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Donald R McMurray
> <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the 
>> bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you usually use 
>> them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a band that is 
>> predominately SSB?
>
> Welcome aboard as a potential AMer, Donald. The effectiveness if AM vs
> SSB or CW will really depend on what you're expecting for results as
> well as what you run for equipment, power, and so on. SSB is more
> efficient for long distant contacts, sure. But also more fatiguing to
> listen to over extended periods of time, and lacking the more human
> feel of an armchair copy AM contact. Few of us are monolithic and also
> enjoy a bit of CW, SSB for DX work, or some other mode. But most can
> be found spending the majority of their radio time on good ol' AM. It
> does help to run a healthy signal of course, 100 watts minimum for
> 75-80m most evenings and quite often even that will land you in the
> 'weak copy' category if the band is busy or noisy. 200 watts or more
> will make your presence known most night. A decent 811 amp or similar
> on your 930 should do the trick.
>
> An AMer calling CQ with a reasonable signal will stand out from the
> SSB garble, making your S-meter rise upscale and stay there as they
> tune or call. Much easier to tune in than SSB too.
>
>> I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn about 
>> full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is either the 
>> bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if I'm using the 
>> wrong terminology).
>
> Maybe 'full signal' is appropriate. SSB utilizing only a portion of a
> full AM signal.
>> I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in amateur 
>> radio, versus SSB.
>
> As a fellow I was talking with this morning said "AM operating is a
> lot like what I remember amateur radio being like when I listened as a
> kid". Generally speaking, it's a more relaxed style of communicating
> that is as much about the social aspect as the technical. While there
> are always exceptions (idiots and troublemakers, regardless of mode),
> I think you'll find the AM community to be the most technically-astute
> and active group out there in the design, building, and restoration of
> equipment. If you go to a decent sized hamfest, you'll find the AMers
> also tend to have a lot of social activities going on from cook outs
> and BBQs to dinners, parties, and whatever else. As we've aged and
> gone through the boatanchor/more toys phase, the time together with
> friends has become more important.
>
> And also as with SSB, don't be discouraged if you hear some bad
> behavior on the bands. It does happen, but the vast majority of AMers
> are a decent lot who simply enjoy the pleasant sound and experience of
> the mode. I'm east of you in NC and work stations in TN quite easily,
> so I hope to hear you on the bands someday soon.
>
> 73 -
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sun Sep 26 14:58:37 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:58:37 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:22 PM, K7SU <kelly at k7su.com> wrote:


Hello Kelly and welcome aboard! Looks like quite a few folks are
discovering or rediscovering AM this year, should make for active fall
and winter seasons.

> I've also noticed that many of the guys have great signals, but MUSHY sound
> when they try to make it sound like HI FI...a bass-y warm sound that works
> well on AM broadcast but makes for difficult hearing with much of a noise
> floor.

It's been a problem as long as I can remember, fortunately these
stations seem to be in the minority. Over-processing in hopes of
compensating for a lack of bass in the voice or overall signal never
seems to cut it. One buddy tells them it sounds great though, and
there's no looking back. A lot of lost/wasted energy that folks more
than a could hundred miles away (or less) can't hear.

The trick is to have enough signal to start with, and enough
modulation to properly modulate it. Quite often I see decent carriers
but have to switch to CW to tell if there's even any audio. A good,
strong station with their audio set up properly sounds sweet and
smooth with Hi Fi audio. It's just not as simple has hanging a
processor on the transmitter.

> Anyway, as I explore the world of AM, I find I'm learing a lot about sound
> and propagation, and just having a lot of fun. ?For longer distance
> communications, on the lower bands anyway, you're better off with SSB but
> within 500 miles or so, AM is really cool.

That may be true for the average QSO, but I was able to work VT to CA
several times a few years back along with OK, AZ and WA, which was
quite a kick. Definitely not something to expect during summer static,
but quite possible in winter. A number of guys in the eastern US have
worked European AMers too, which is DX at its best in my book. Fun
stuff, and a bit of a change from the same ol' same ol'.

Have fun with it Kelly, hope to hear you this winter.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From JJan-3 at cox.net  Mon Sep 27 03:20:36 2010
From: JJan-3 at cox.net (Jim Hill)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:20:36 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with 
SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I 
made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing 
adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on 
AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned 
him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was 
quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile, 
but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final, 
while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference, 
too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever since.
Jim


At 01:30 AM 9/26/2010, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have 
>had some health problems the past few years.
>
>I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx 
>60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better 
>than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the 
>house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It 
>doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the 
>12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very 
>short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make 
>good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you 
>could call it that.
>
>While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would 
>be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to 
>listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not 
>transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been 
>doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I 
>almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter 
>dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high 
>but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have 
>other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>
>Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the 
>bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you 
>usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a 
>band that is predominately SSB?
>
>I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn 
>about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is 
>either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if 
>I'm using the wrong terminology).
>
>I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in 
>amateur radio, versus SSB.
>
>I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's
>
>Donald McMurray
>Kingston, TN
>mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Mon Sep 27 14:24:18 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:24:18 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <20100927072035.QPUI16314.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net>
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<20100927072035.QPUI16314.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net>
Message-ID: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>

  What youu have posted is "true", but there are also caveats.

The DX-60 feeding a pair of 3-500Zs will do better than a DX-100 or a 
TX-1 Apache.

Then we get into what some call "The Tall Ships".   These are "mostly" 
home-brewed - such as 813s modulating 813s, and all manner of "other" 
combinations.

There are also the Old Broadcast Transmitters that have been modified to 
run the Amateur Bands.

Then the "tanks" like my BC-610 and its later rendition, the T-213.

Todd also pointed out the audio issues that make "some" signals 
difficult to listen to.

I do NOT bother with a DBX Compression box, nor do I use these big over 
abused audio boxes from commercial stations.

I run an "old" Shure 737A directly into the speech amplifier, BC-614, 
that ties into the audio segment of the Beasts.

I keep the gain within limits, watch it with a monitor scope, and keep 
the "horses" reigned in to stay within the legal limit.

The net result has been very good audio and signal reports.

Now I just have to re-connect the equipment in the shack again.  Been 
cleaning out the downstairs area.

This time I'll be using the Northern SP-600 for receive - until I get 
the R-390A re-assembled.  I need to re-finish the front panel, or just 
go and use the "other" one with the "partial moon" wear marks.

Bob - N0DGN

On 9/27/2010 3:20 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
> SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
> made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on
> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
> him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was
> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
> too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever since.
> Jim


From farrerfolks at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 27 15:01:27 2010
From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:01:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree with Bob and would like to add a few comments on the use of AM "nowadays".? 

Most of the modern AMers have had their initiation into ham radio phone starting with AM or they had an involvement in the Audio or Broadcast industry.? That puts alot of us in the senior group.? What I remember most was the times I was comfortably on the floor looking up at this old radio with the orange glow and listened into all hours of the night to guys just talking about everyday events.? Some technical some not, but oh so fun to listen.? Besides, our young minds could conjure up vast images as they talked.? Much better than TV.

I run a Bauer 707 1 KW AM transmitter at 275 Watts carrier, yes a tad over limit, but then I use a great FAT HEAD ribbon microphone, no equalization, no compression? and watch the RF modulation wave form on a scope for about 85% of modulation.? As such I am very pleased to talk to anyone who is interested.? Do I do DX, well, if they break in and want to talk, sure.? But I didn't chose to get back on AM to get the longest distant contact.? I just enjoy the quality of good AM.? 

Cheers,

Mel, K6KBE



--- On Mon, 9/27/10, rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net> wrote:

From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 11:24 AM

? What youu have posted is "true", but there are also caveats.

The DX-60 feeding a pair of 3-500Zs will do better than a DX-100 or a 
TX-1 Apache.

Then we get into what some call "The Tall Ships".???These are "mostly" 
home-brewed - such as 813s modulating 813s, and all manner of "other" 
combinations.

There are also the Old Broadcast Transmitters that have been modified to 
run the Amateur Bands.

Then the "tanks" like my BC-610 and its later rendition, the T-213.

Todd also pointed out the audio issues that make "some" signals 
difficult to listen to.

I do NOT bother with a DBX Compression box, nor do I use these big over 
abused audio boxes from commercial stations.

I run an "old" Shure 737A directly into the speech amplifier, BC-614, 
that ties into the audio segment of the Beasts.

I keep the gain within limits, watch it with a monitor scope, and keep 
the "horses" reigned in to stay within the legal limit.

The net result has been very good audio and signal reports.

Now I just have to re-connect the equipment in the shack again.? Been 
cleaning out the downstairs area.

This time I'll be using the Northern SP-600 for receive - until I get 
the R-390A re-assembled.? I need to re-finish the front panel, or just 
go and use the "other" one with the "partial moon" wear marks.

Bob - N0DGN

On 9/27/2010 3:20 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
> SSB.? Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
> made a comparison test.? He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.? He transmitted on
> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
> him to switch to SSB.? I had no problems copying him on SSB.? I was
> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
> too.? I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever since.
> Jim

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From mark.k3msb at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 18:23:07 2010
From: mark.k3msb at gmail.com (Mark K3MSB)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:23:07 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>
	<887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>

Do you want to enjoy the journey,  or get to the destination?    AM for the
former,  SSB for the latter.    Each has it's place.

Mark K3MSB

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mel Farrer <farrerfolks at yahoo.com> wrote:

> But I didn't chose to get back on AM to get the longest distant contact.  I
> just enjoy the quality of good AM.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mel, K6KBE
>

From w4rl at bellsouth.net  Mon Sep 27 18:27:11 2010
From: w4rl at bellsouth.net (Robert Lawson)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:27:11 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>	<887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CA11A3F.2070602@bellsouth.net>

  Mark and Mel,

Excellently stated.

Robert W4RL

On 9/27/2010 5:23 PM, Mark K3MSB wrote:
> Do you want to enjoy the journey,  or get to the destination?    AM for the
> former,  SSB for the latter.    Each has it's place.
>
> Mark K3MSB
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mel Farrer<farrerfolks at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
>> But I didn't chose to get back on AM to get the longest distant contact.  I
>> just enjoy the quality of good AM.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mel, K6KBE
>>
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 19:09:11 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:09:11 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <4CA11A3F.2070602@bellsouth.net>
References: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>
	<887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CA11A3F.2070602@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4Xkb9dupGVZn8B6nKGo9BNhPEjMPt=zThM8zK@mail.gmail.com>

re the power, well last night on 3880 I had pretty good copy on Bill WA3QGD
in Washington State (about 2000 miles away from my Chicago area QTH) and he
was working Brent W1IA in N.H. with 100 watts.   I bet not that many SSBers
work transcontinental ragchew QSOs this time of year with solid state
transceivers.  Most seem to run 1.5 KW amps to work guys 200 miles away.
Earlier in the afternoon on 75 I was talking to a nearby friend and for that
I was only putting out about 20 w. to the dipole but unbeknownst to me, a
friend of mine 200 miles away in Indianapolis heard me and sent me a few mp3
files of me blathering, and considering the distance and power, it wasn't
that bad (the signal that is, not the blathering).  Not full quieting by a
long shot, but perfectly readable.

I think some of that has to do with how AM is more unforgiving of poor rx
and tx antennas.  We are motivated to work at trying to get the best
possible antennas so when the ham with the Ranger shows up we can at least
get most of his transmission and get out when we transmit.  The compromise
antennas that might be okay for SSB often don't cut it on AM but the payoff
is when we can hear weak signals from guys running surprisingly low power.

73

Rob
K5UJ

From wb5oxq at grandecom.net  Mon Sep 27 19:23:14 2010
From: wb5oxq at grandecom.net (Jim in Waco WB5OXQ)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:23:14 -0000
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
References: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>	<887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com><AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CA11A3F.2070602@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <DC635A26E5C14D39BA2381913F04A93F@DELL08167>

I spend 2 hours last night on 3.880 AM talking with Ken KA5RHK in Arkansas 
and we paused many times hoping for others to join in with no takers.
Where is everybody.  We had a good connection from Central Texas to central 
Arkansas each running about 350 watts carrier.  Surely someone else could 
hear us.  Where are the evening AMers?  I listened on 160 also heard nobody. 
Also tried 40 and 20.  Nada!
WB5OXQ, Jim in Waco. 


From n4vgb at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 27 20:00:17 2010
From: n4vgb at yahoo.com (Mack Rogers)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
Message-ID: <267013.72334.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

There's CW and then there's AM. What is this SSB of which you speak? (big grin)


Mack Rogers
N4VGB



--- On Sun, 9/26/10, Donald R McMurray <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: Donald R McMurray <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010, 4:30 AM
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old
> and have had some health problems the past few years.
> 
> I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg
> wire approx 60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It
> works a lot better than I thought it would. I run it
> straight down from the apex of the house. I run it through
> the window and close the window on it. It doesn't seem to
> hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the 12 awg
> strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
> short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place
> and make good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving
> antenna, if you could call it that. 
> 
> While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that
> it would be more motivating if I got a working station built
> to get used to listening and developing my ham shack ( but
> of course not transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite
> band while I've been doing all this listening on the bands
> in the 75-80 meter band. I almost have all the parts
> together to build a half-wave 75 meter dipole. I have
> studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high but
> I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I
> have other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
> 
> Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is
> AM on the bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of
> day do you usually use them, and how do you know someone is
> calling CQ on a band that is predominately SSB?
> 
> I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to
> learn about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM
> since SSB AM is either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but
> please correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology).
> 
> I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM
> in amateur radio, versus SSB.
> 
> I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the
> bands! 73's
> 
> Donald McMurray
> Kingston, TN
> mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
> 
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From macklinbob at msn.com  Mon Sep 27 20:17:02 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:17:02 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
References: <267013.72334.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP196EF1447855B9E7C5A0A74C5660@phx.gbl>

My complaint with SSB these days is the people don't talk long enough to 
tune them in. It's really bad on contest days.

And then there are the people that either don't have RIT or don't know how 
to use it!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mack Rogers" <n4vgb at yahoo.com>
To: <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur 
Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


> There's CW and then there's AM. What is this SSB of which you speak? (big 
> grin)
>
>
> Mack Rogers
> N4VGB
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 9/26/10, Donald R McMurray <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Donald R McMurray <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010, 4:30 AM
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old
>> and have had some health problems the past few years.
>>
>> I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg
>> wire approx 60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It
>> works a lot better than I thought it would. I run it
>> straight down from the apex of the house. I run it through
>> the window and close the window on it. It doesn't seem to
>> hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the 12 awg
>> strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
>> short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place
>> and make good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving
>> antenna, if you could call it that.
>>
>> While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that
>> it would be more motivating if I got a working station built
>> to get used to listening and developing my ham shack ( but
>> of course not transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite
>> band while I've been doing all this listening on the bands
>> in the 75-80 meter band. I almost have all the parts
>> together to build a half-wave 75 meter dipole. I have
>> studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high but
>> I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I
>> have other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>>
>> Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is
>> AM on the bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of
>> day do you usually use them, and how do you know someone is
>> calling CQ on a band that is predominately SSB?
>>
>> I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to
>> learn about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM
>> since SSB AM is either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but
>> please correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology).
>>
>> I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM
>> in amateur radio, versus SSB.
>>
>> I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the
>> bands! 73's
>>
>> Donald McMurray
>> Kingston, TN
>> mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>>
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 20:35:12 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:35:12 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <DC635A26E5C14D39BA2381913F04A93F@DELL08167>
References: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>
	<887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>
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	<DC635A26E5C14D39BA2381913F04A93F@DELL08167>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinseY=6q_8P4fVmCLW3_XAeNLabo3Ax-ujSK3K+@mail.gmail.com>

Jim, vy sorry but I forgot to mention that earlier I called CQ on 3880, must
have been around 9:30 p.m. central time and Ken came back to me with a big
signal and we were quickly joined by Brandon KF5IIA (or maybe it is IAA, I
don't have my log with me) and Frank in Aberdeen S.D., Brent W1IA, Steve
W9SWR, and another fellow who's call escapes me operating from a camp ground
in Carlock IL.  This went on for about an hour then it being a work night we
all began to call it a night and after that was when I heard Bill in
Washington call Brent and proceed to ragchew.   There was a lot of QRN as
the evening wore on so eventually some guys got tough to copy but I have a
little rx loop I can use and that helps somewhat.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Jim in Waco WB5OXQ <wb5oxq at grandecom.net>wrote:

> I spend 2 hours last night on 3.880 AM talking with Ken KA5RHK in Arkansas
> and we paused many times hoping for others to join in with no takers.
> Where is everybody.  We had a good connection from Central Texas to central
> Arkansas each running about 350 watts carrier.  Surely someone else could
> hear us.  Where are the evening AMers?  I listened on 160 also heard
> nobody.
> Also tried 40 and 20.  Nada!
> WB5OXQ, Jim in Waco.
>
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From Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net  Mon Sep 27 20:48:07 2010
From: Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net (Brett Gazdzinski)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:48:07 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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My problem with ssb is I never hear anything even remotely interesting on 
the mode.
80 meters at night seems to be republican rants against the govt, or maybe 
what new radio the guy just got, and even what is on TV (they watch and talk 
on the radio at the same time?).

On AM, it seems what old gear someone is using/fixing (sometimes at the same 
time), antenna's, homebrew projects, audio experiments, etc.

I find the tech talk much more interesting.
Seems like real ham radio to me...

When a lot of people stopped using homebrew stations, the glory went out of 
ham radio.

Brett
N2DTS




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hill" <JJan-3 at cox.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
> SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
> made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on
> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
> him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was
> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
> too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever 
> since.
> Jim
>
>
> At 01:30 AM 9/26/2010, you wrote:
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have
>>had some health problems the past few years.
>>
>>I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx
>>60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better
>>than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the
>>house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It
>>doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the
>>12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
>>short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make
>>good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you
>>could call it that.
>>
>>While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would
>>be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to
>>listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not
>>transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been
>>doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I
>>almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter
>>dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high
>>but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have
>>other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>>
>>Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the
>>bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you
>>usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a
>>band that is predominately SSB?
>>
>>I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn
>>about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is
>>either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if
>>I'm using the wrong terminology).
>>
>>I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in
>>amateur radio, versus SSB.
>>
>>I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's
>>
>>Donald McMurray
>>Kingston, TN
>>mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>>
>>______________________________________________________________
>>Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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From macklinbob at msn.com  Mon Sep 27 20:55:48 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:55:48 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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I would rather hear tech talk than politics also!

Today our local 2M repeater was really sounding like CB!

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


> My problem with ssb is I never hear anything even remotely interesting on
> the mode.
> 80 meters at night seems to be republican rants against the govt, or maybe
> what new radio the guy just got, and even what is on TV (they watch and 
> talk
> on the radio at the same time?).
>
> On AM, it seems what old gear someone is using/fixing (sometimes at the 
> same
> time), antenna's, homebrew projects, audio experiments, etc.
>
> I find the tech talk much more interesting.
> Seems like real ham radio to me...
>
> When a lot of people stopped using homebrew stations, the glory went out 
> of
> ham radio.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Hill" <JJan-3 at cox.net>
> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>
>
>> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
>> SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
>> made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
>> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on
>> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
>> him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was
>> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
>> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
>> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
>> too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever
>> since.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> At 01:30 AM 9/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have
>>>had some health problems the past few years.
>>>
>>>I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx
>>>60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better
>>>than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the
>>>house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It
>>>doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the
>>>12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
>>>short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make
>>>good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you
>>>could call it that.
>>>
>>>While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would
>>>be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to
>>>listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not
>>>transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been
>>>doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I
>>>almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter
>>>dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high
>>>but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have
>>>other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>>>
>>>Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the
>>>bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you
>>>usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a
>>>band that is predominately SSB?
>>>
>>>I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn
>>>about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is
>>>either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if
>>>I'm using the wrong terminology).
>>>
>>>I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in
>>>amateur radio, versus SSB.
>>>
>>>I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's
>>>
>>>Donald McMurray
>>>Kingston, TN
>>>mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>>>
>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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>>>List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
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From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Mon Sep 27 21:17:42 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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I particularly enjoy listening to the drunks.  They all sound like their 
batteries are in backwards.
As for homebrew stations, the power supply for my new ARC 2 is nearly done 
so I should be part of the thundering herd very soon.
73's
Greg
WA7LYO
Kinston NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


> My problem with ssb is I never hear anything even remotely interesting on
> the mode.
> 80 meters at night seems to be republican rants against the govt, or maybe
> what new radio the guy just got, and even what is on TV (they watch and 
> talk
> on the radio at the same time?).
>
> On AM, it seems what old gear someone is using/fixing (sometimes at the 
> same
> time), antenna's, homebrew projects, audio experiments, etc.
>
> I find the tech talk much more interesting.
> Seems like real ham radio to me...
>
> When a lot of people stopped using homebrew stations, the glory went out 
> of
> ham radio.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Hill" <JJan-3 at cox.net>
> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>
>
>> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
>> SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
>> made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
>> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on
>> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
>> him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was
>> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
>> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
>> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
>> too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever
>> since.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> At 01:30 AM 9/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have
>>>had some health problems the past few years.
>>>
>>>I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx
>>>60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better
>>>than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the
>>>house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It
>>>doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the
>>>12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
>>>short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make
>>>good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you
>>>could call it that.
>>>
>>>While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would
>>>be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to
>>>listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not
>>>transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been
>>>doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I
>>>almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter
>>>dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high
>>>but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have
>>>other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>>>
>>>Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the
>>>bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you
>>>usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a
>>>band that is predominately SSB?
>>>
>>>I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn
>>>about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is
>>>either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if
>>>I'm using the wrong terminology).
>>>
>>>I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in
>>>amateur radio, versus SSB.
>>>
>>>I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's
>>>
>>>Donald McMurray
>>>Kingston, TN
>>>mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>>>
>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
>>>AMRadio mailing list
>>>Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
>>>List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
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>>
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From macklinbob at msn.com  Mon Sep 27 21:33:55 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:33:55 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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I wish we had some 6M or 2M AM here in the Seattle area! They both work fine 
for local activity regardless of the sunspot conditions!

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
To: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.gazdzinski at verizon.net>; "Discussion of AM 
Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


>I particularly enjoy listening to the drunks.  They all sound like their
> batteries are in backwards.
> As for homebrew stations, the power supply for my new ARC 2 is nearly done
> so I should be part of the thundering herd very soon.
> 73's
> Greg
> WA7LYO
> Kinston NC
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>
>
>> My problem with ssb is I never hear anything even remotely interesting on
>> the mode.
>> 80 meters at night seems to be republican rants against the govt, or 
>> maybe
>> what new radio the guy just got, and even what is on TV (they watch and
>> talk
>> on the radio at the same time?).
>>
>> On AM, it seems what old gear someone is using/fixing (sometimes at the
>> same
>> time), antenna's, homebrew projects, audio experiments, etc.
>>
>> I find the tech talk much more interesting.
>> Seems like real ham radio to me...
>>
>> When a lot of people stopped using homebrew stations, the glory went out
>> of
>> ham radio.
>>
>> Brett
>> N2DTS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jim Hill" <JJan-3 at cox.net>
>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>>
>>
>>> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
>>> SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
>>> made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
>>> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on
>>> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
>>> him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was
>>> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
>>> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
>>> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
>>> too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever
>>> since.
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> At 01:30 AM 9/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>>Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have
>>>>had some health problems the past few years.
>>>>
>>>>I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx
>>>>60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better
>>>>than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the
>>>>house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It
>>>>doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the
>>>>12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
>>>>short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make
>>>>good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you
>>>>could call it that.
>>>>
>>>>While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would
>>>>be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to
>>>>listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not
>>>>transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been
>>>>doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I
>>>>almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter
>>>>dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high
>>>>but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have
>>>>other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>>>>
>>>>Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the
>>>>bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you
>>>>usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a
>>>>band that is predominately SSB?
>>>>
>>>>I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn
>>>>about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is
>>>>either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if
>>>>I'm using the wrong terminology).
>>>>
>>>>I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in
>>>>amateur radio, versus SSB.
>>>>
>>>>I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's
>>>>
>>>>Donald McMurray
>>>>Kingston, TN
>>>>mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>>>>
>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
>>>>AMRadio mailing list
>>>>Searchable Archives: 
>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/
>>>>List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html
>>>>List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio
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>>>>the word unsubscribe in the message body.
>>>>
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>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From wb5oxq at grandecom.net  Mon Sep 27 21:34:31 2010
From: wb5oxq at grandecom.net (Jim in Waco WB5OXQ)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:34:31 -0000
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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I must have given up too soon.  I was on until around 9 cdt and went to get 
something to eat.  Having to go to work the next day I did not get back on 
the air.  I will be back on soon.  AM is too enjoyable to miss.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim in Waco WB5OXQ" <wb5oxq at grandecom.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


>I spend 2 hours last night on 3.880 AM talking with Ken KA5RHK in Arkansas
> and we paused many times hoping for others to join in with no takers.
> Where is everybody.  We had a good connection from Central Texas to 
> central
> Arkansas each running about 350 watts carrier.  Surely someone else could
> hear us.  Where are the evening AMers?  I listened on 160 also heard 
> nobody.
> Also tried 40 and 20.  Nada!
> WB5OXQ, Jim in Waco.
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From kelly at k7su.com  Mon Sep 27 21:36:25 2010
From: kelly at k7su.com (K7SU)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:36:25 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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I've been tempted to find me an old Heathkit 2 meter Lunch Box.  I see them 
for sale on occasion.  It would be fun to try that again.

Kelly   K7SU
Twin Falls, ID.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Macklin" <macklinbob at msn.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 19:33
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


>I wish we had some 6M or 2M AM here in the Seattle area! They both work 
>fine
> for local activity regardless of the sunspot conditions!
>
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa.
> "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Greg Mijal" <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.gazdzinski at verizon.net>; "Discussion of AM
> Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>
>
>>I particularly enjoy listening to the drunks.  They all sound like their
>> batteries are in backwards.
>> As for homebrew stations, the power supply for my new ARC 2 is nearly 
>> done
>> so I should be part of the thundering herd very soon.
>> 73's
>> Greg
>> WA7LYO
>> Kinston NC
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>>
>>
>>> My problem with ssb is I never hear anything even remotely interesting 
>>> on
>>> the mode.
>>> 80 meters at night seems to be republican rants against the govt, or
>>> maybe
>>> what new radio the guy just got, and even what is on TV (they watch and
>>> talk
>>> on the radio at the same time?).
>>>
>>> On AM, it seems what old gear someone is using/fixing (sometimes at the
>>> same
>>> time), antenna's, homebrew projects, audio experiments, etc.
>>>
>>> I find the tech talk much more interesting.
>>> Seems like real ham radio to me...
>>>
>>> When a lot of people stopped using homebrew stations, the glory went out
>>> of
>>> ham radio.
>>>
>>> Brett
>>> N2DTS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jim Hill" <JJan-3 at cox.net>
>>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regarding AM vs SSB, you definitely get out much better with
>>>> SSB.  Years ago when the Heath DX 100 was available, a friend and I
>>>> made a comparison test.  He had a DX 100 with the SSB phasing
>>>> adapter, and lived about 40 miles away from me.  He transmitted on
>>>> AM, and I rotated my beam until I couldn't hear him, and telephoned
>>>> him to switch to SSB.  I had no problems copying him on SSB.  I was
>>>> quite impressed. I noticed a big improvement when operating mobile,
>>>> but my AM rig was a Morrow MB560 with a single 6146 in the final,
>>>> while my SSB rig was a Swan 500 so there was a power difference,
>>>> too.  I traded my MB560 for some other gear, and have regretted it ever
>>>> since.
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 01:30 AM 9/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am new to this group and amateur radio. I am 32 years old and have
>>>>>had some health problems the past few years.
>>>>>
>>>>>I bought a Kenwood TS-930S in 2006. I hooked up a 12 awg wire approx
>>>>>60' long and in some places up to 35' tall. It works a lot better
>>>>>than I thought it would. I run it straight down from the apex of the
>>>>>house. I run it through the window and close the window on it. It
>>>>>doesn't seem to hurt it because of the insulation on it. I run the
>>>>>12 awg strait into the back of the radio with the help of a very
>>>>>short and small gauge nail so the wire will stay in place and make
>>>>>good contact. Of course, this is just a receiving antenna, if you
>>>>>could call it that.
>>>>>
>>>>>While I'm studying for my exams, my mentor suggested that it would
>>>>>be more motivating if I got a working station built to get used to
>>>>>listening and developing my ham shack ( but of course not
>>>>>transmitting until I'm licensed ). My favorite band while I've been
>>>>>doing all this listening on the bands in the 75-80 meter band. I
>>>>>almost have all the parts together to build a half-wave 75 meter
>>>>>dipole. I have studied our property and I know I can get it 50' high
>>>>>but I'm hoping for 60' which would be a 1/4 wave in height. I have
>>>>>other antennas in mind for the other HF bands.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well... enough rambling. My question is, how effective is AM on the
>>>>>bands, what bands do you usually use, what time of day do you
>>>>>usually use them, and how do you know someone is calling CQ on a
>>>>>band that is predominately SSB?
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope everyone will bare with me, as I am just trying to learn
>>>>>about full-wave AM ( I guess that is a term for AM since SSB AM is
>>>>>either the bottom or top of the AM wave, but please correct me if
>>>>>I'm using the wrong terminology).
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope some of you might want to explain the standard of AM in
>>>>>amateur radio, versus SSB.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope to be licensed soon, so maybe I'll see you on the bands! 73's
>>>>>
>>>>>Donald McMurray
>>>>>Kingston, TN
>>>>>mailto:donmcm63 at bellsouth.net
>>>>>
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From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 21:36:48 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (Kevin Raper)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:36:48 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <DC635A26E5C14D39BA2381913F04A93F@DELL08167>
References: <4CA0E152.4000705@comcast.net>	<887118.73260.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com><AANLkTinTYwCExLOLq18cm4-6JpJJV6buDWaKWRn1q30C@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Jim in Waco WB5OXQ wrote:

> I spend 2 hours last night on 3.880 AM talking with Ken KA5RHK in Arkansas 
> and we paused many times hoping for others to join in with no takers.
> Where is everybody. 

I am Rock-Bound on 3885 for my main rig.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn




From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 21:37:48 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (Kevin Raper)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:37:48 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Bob Macklin wrote:

> I would rather hear tech talk than politics also!
> 
> Today our local 2M repeater was really sounding like CB!

Same here, including the CB-Trucker talk, 10-4 good buddy.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn




From wb5oxq at grandecom.net  Mon Sep 27 21:41:44 2010
From: wb5oxq at grandecom.net (Jim in Waco WB5OXQ)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:41:44 -0000
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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I can work anywhere but my receiver is too broad to separate a 5kc spread on 
am.  If I choose the narrow filter the audio is too mushy for good copy on 
am.  Perhaps those of us with vfo can move to 3.885.
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context


>
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Jim in Waco WB5OXQ wrote:
>
>> I spend 2 hours last night on 3.880 AM talking with Ken KA5RHK in 
>> Arkansas
>> and we paused many times hoping for others to join in with no takers.
>> Where is everybody.
>
> I am Rock-Bound on 3885 for my main rig.
>
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ
>
> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical 
> standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn
>
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 21:48:24 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:48:24 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
In-Reply-To: <7117D726E0834BEB9EBFC2AF0A981D5C@DELL08167>
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VFOs are cheap these days, but I find mos folks still have trouble
breaking the dial loose from a 10-15 kc chunk of spectrum, regardless
of band.

A good number of us hang out below 3800, in the 80m portion of the
band. Plenty of space to spread out for decent AM audio, and none of
the issues associated with 75m. True, you can't operate there if
you're only a general, but it's pretty good incentive to upgrade.

I had planned to operate a bit last night, but we had some nasty
static here from a large area of storms. Should be better conditions
over the next week.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
<wb5oxq at grandecom.net> wrote:
> I can work anywhere but my receiver is too broad to separate a 5kc spread on
> am. ?If I choose the narrow filter the audio is too mushy for good copy on
> am. ?Perhaps those of us with vfo can move to 3.885.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Raper" <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
>
>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Jim in Waco WB5OXQ wrote:
>>
>>> I spend 2 hours last night on 3.880 AM talking with Ken KA5RHK in
>>> Arkansas
>>> and we paused many times hoping for others to join in with no takers.
>>> Where is everybody.
>>
>> I am Rock-Bound on 3885 for my main rig.
>>
>> 73,
>> Kevin Raper
>> KJ4HYD
>> CE WCKI WQIZ
>>
>> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical
>> standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn
>>
>>
>>
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From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 21:49:04 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (Kevin Raper)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:49:04 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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On Sep 27, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Mel Farrer wrote:

> I run a Bauer 707 1 KW AM transmitter at 275 Watts carrier, yes a tad over limit, but then I use a great FAT HEAD ribbon microphone, no equalization, no compression  and watch the RF modulation wave form on a scope for about 85% of modulation.  As such I am very pleased to talk to anyone who is interested

I run a Gates BC-500H at 250 Watts Carrier, a RCA 44BX mic into an RCA BC-3 Console, a CBS Audimax and Volumax on 1885. I run a Heathkit DX-60 into a FL-2100B on 3885. I too will talk to anybody that calls.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn




From macklinbob at msn.com  Mon Sep 27 21:49:41 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:49:41 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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Two of the guys on our repeater today were TRUCKERS!

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Raper" <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
To: "Bob Macklin" <macklinbob at msn.com>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the 
Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context



On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Bob Macklin wrote:

> I would rather hear tech talk than politics also!
>
> Today our local 2M repeater was really sounding like CB!

Same here, including the CB-Trucker talk, 10-4 good buddy.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical 
standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn





From kelly at k7su.com  Mon Sep 27 21:52:42 2010
From: kelly at k7su.com (K7SU)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:52:42 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context KEVIN
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Kevin,

I used to work with a Doug Raper out here in Idaho.  Since that's kind of a 
unique name, wonder if you are related...or if you know.

Kelly K7SU
Twin Falls, ID.
CE  KEZJ KLIX AM/FM KSNQ
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>
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Mel Farrer wrote:
>
>> I run a Bauer 707 1 KW AM transmitter at 275 Watts carrier, yes a tad 
>> over limit, but then I use a great FAT HEAD ribbon microphone, no 
>> equalization, no compression  and watch the RF modulation wave form on a 
>> scope for about 85% of modulation.  As such I am very pleased to talk to 
>> anyone who is interested
>
> I run a Gates BC-500H at 250 Watts Carrier, a RCA 44BX mic into an RCA 
> BC-3 Console, a CBS Audimax and Volumax on 1885. I run a Heathkit DX-60 
> into a FL-2100B on 3885. I too will talk to anybody that calls.
>
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ
>
> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical 
> standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn
>
>
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From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 21:57:48 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (Kevin Raper)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:57:48 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context KEVIN
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On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:52 PM, K7SU wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
> I used to work with a Doug Raper out here in Idaho.  Since that's kind of a 
> unique name, wonder if you are related...or if you know.

It is kind of a common name for Cherokees. I have not heard of him, but that does no mean much. My family is from Northwestern Iowa in the Cherokee and Southerland areas

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn




From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 23:20:17 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:20:17 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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Back when FCC opened > 3600 to phone I went through a period wondering
whether to call it 80 or 75.  All my ham life to-date 80 m. meant CW to me
and 75 m. meant phone.  I finally decided if it's phone anywhere between
3500 and 4000 it's 75 m.  it's funny isn't it, but anyway, one of the guys
last night said there was a lot of activity on 3700 now, Don KYV there and a
few others.  I said every time I take the trouble to QSY down there I get
nuthin.  (Nuthin is less than nothing.)  But now, I might give it a try
again.

Jim in Waco:  Don't worry about giving up too early--the band will only get
better as we move more into fall.

I'm listening to the Bears Green Bay game on the local CBS station here.
 For some reason during the football broadcasts they turn off IBOC and
transmit the full 10 KHz NRSC analog audio and on my GE Superadio in the
wide response setting it sounds fantastic.  I'm not much of a sports fan but
I'm listening because the AM audio sounds so good.  I wish they'd just can
IBOC and go back to all-analog all the time.

>I've been tempted to find me an old Heathkit 2 meter Lunch Box.  I see them
>for sale on occasion.  It would be fun to try that again.

>Kelly   K7SU
>Twin Falls, ID.

At the local Belvedere hamfest last weekend (Radio Expo 2010) a guy had a
Sixer for sale with the matching mic, which is not often seen.  The mic
isn't anything to write home about technically but is collectable.    The
Sixer was in pretty good looking shape.  He wanted 50 bucks for it.

73

Rob
K5UJ


On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

> VFOs are cheap these days, but I find mos folks still have trouble
> breaking the dial loose from a 10-15 kc chunk of spectrum, regardless
> of band.
>
> A good number of us hang out below 3800, in the 80m portion of the
> band. Plenty of space to spread out for decent AM audio, and none of
> the issues associated with 75m. True, you can't operate there if
> you're only a general, but it's pretty good incentive to upgrade.
>
> I had planned to operate a bit last night, but we had some nasty
> static here from a large area of storms. Should be better conditions
> over the next week.
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
>
>

From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Tue Sep 28 09:51:37 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:51:37 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Back when FCC opened > 3600 to phone I went through a period wondering
> whether to call it 80 or 75. ?All my ham life to-date 80 m. meant CW to me
> and 75 m. meant phone. ?I finally decided if it's phone anywhere between
> 3500 and 4000 it's 75 m. ?it's funny isn't it, but anyway, one of the guys
> last night said there was a lot of activity on 3700 now, Don KYV there and a
> few others. ?I said every time I take the trouble to QSY down there I get
> nuthin. ?(Nuthin is less than nothing.) ?But now, I might give it a try
> again.

3750 and down figures into the 80m portion, above that it moves toward
75. Of course, anyone is free to call it whatever they want based on
mode, favorite color, or moon phase. (o: Some of the guys have taken
to calling it the "160m portion of 75/80m band" due to the more
relaxed and courteous operating style. It's far less crowded, too.

Two things affect operation down there (or anywhere else for me: time
and wx. We had strong storm warnings for last night that never
materialized. But the day before when wx was better, we had a good
group on 3705 mid day with another group up on 3716. Static went from
sporadic to non-stop as the day went on, so no one returned later. A
week before I was able to hear old friends Tim VE6PG and Al VE3AJM
down here in NC on their 3725 hang out. Both were 20 over or more.

The amount of activity will vary geographically of course as well as
propagation, meaning you might not hear us out in the mid-west even
though there's a lot of activity. My observation has been the most
activity seems to be in the northeast, followed by 8 Land, 4 Land, 5
Land, and 9 Land. There are no doubt plenty of groups out there
running 100 watts or less who I just don't hear.

Take a listen later today, Rob. Johnny is back from SV Land for a
while, so he'll be winding up his GPT-750 every chance he gets before
returning. We'll be down there making some noise with the big rigs.

~ Todd/KAQ

From frederic.clarke at navy.mil  Tue Sep 28 12:05:28 2010
From: frederic.clarke at navy.mil (Clarke, Tom   AIR4.0P NATOPS)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:05:28 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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We also have a group of new hams here in town and they do sound a bit
CB'ish.  Fortunately they listen and learn and all the "first personals"
and "that's a big roger" will fade away.  Now if we can just drop the
"for ID" that seems to be appended to all transmissions, life will be
good. All in all, it's better to have some activity on the machine,
instead of the thundering silence normally experienced!

As long as we are whining, what about, " I tried to call him on my two
meter and had no luck"  Where's  the noun?  Two meter is an adjective!

73 de Tom/W4OKW
-------------------------------------------

On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Bob Macklin wrote:

> I would rather hear tech talk than politics also!
> 
> Today our local 2M repeater was really sounding like CB!

Same here, including the CB-Trucker talk, 10-4 good buddy.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical
standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn





From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Tue Sep 28 16:03:40 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:03:40 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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Todd it will be good to hear you and JN anywhere from 3600 to 4000.  I am
starting to think about getting the 1/4 w. 75 m. vertical back in use.
Maybe you will hear me better when I start getting it going.  I am planning
on rebuilding the 160 m. inverted L in a few days also.

73


Rob
K5UJ

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Back when FCC opened > 3600 to phone I went through a period wondering
> > whether to call it 80 or 75.  All my ham life to-date 80 m. meant CW to
> me
> > and 75 m. meant phone.  I finally decided if it's phone anywhere between
> > 3500 and 4000 it's 75 m.  it's funny isn't it, but anyway, one of the
> guys
> > last night said there was a lot of activity on 3700 now, Don KYV there
> and a
> > few others.  I said every time I take the trouble to QSY down there I get
> > nuthin.  (Nuthin is less than nothing.)  But now, I might give it a try
> > again.
>
> 3750 and down figures into the 80m portion, above that it moves toward
> 75. Of course, anyone is free to call it whatever they want based on
> mode, favorite color, or moon phase. (o: Some of the guys have taken
> to calling it the "160m portion of 75/80m band" due to the more
> relaxed and courteous operating style. It's far less crowded, too.
>
> Two things affect operation down there (or anywhere else for me: time
> and wx. We had strong storm warnings for last night that never
> materialized. But the day before when wx was better, we had a good
> group on 3705 mid day with another group up on 3716. Static went from
> sporadic to non-stop as the day went on, so no one returned later. A
> week before I was able to hear old friends Tim VE6PG and Al VE3AJM
> down here in NC on their 3725 hang out. Both were 20 over or more.
>
> The amount of activity will vary geographically of course as well as
> propagation, meaning you might not hear us out in the mid-west even
> though there's a lot of activity. My observation has been the most
> activity seems to be in the northeast, followed by 8 Land, 4 Land, 5
> Land, and 9 Land. There are no doubt plenty of groups out there
> running 100 watts or less who I just don't hear.
>
> Take a listen later today, Rob. Johnny is back from SV Land for a
> while, so he'll be winding up his GPT-750 every chance he gets before
> returning. We'll be down there making some noise with the big rigs.
>
> ~ Todd/KAQ
> ______________________________________________________________
>

From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Tue Sep 28 16:35:25 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:35:25 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd it will be good to hear you and JN anywhere from 3600 to 4000. ?I am
> starting to think about getting the 1/4 w. 75 m. vertical back in use.
> Maybe you will hear me better when I start getting it going. ?I am planning
> on rebuilding the 160 m. inverted L in a few days also.

Heard you quite well a week or so back, Rob. Was in the evening and
you were LOUD here. So, whatever you have up now certainly works when
the band is also working.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From macklinbob at msn.com  Tue Sep 28 16:46:00 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:46:00 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP116294580594540AB69C9BEC5660@phx.gbl>

The Ranger is a single 6146 plate,modulated

The T-150 is a pair of 6146's with controlled carrier.

How does the power output of these two compare. I would think it would be close.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"

From wb4aeg at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 28 17:04:18 2010
From: wb4aeg at yahoo.com (Hal Dale)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?
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Plate mod vs control carrier mod (on the T150)...Hal, WB4AEG
?








CW.....When all else fails !!











________________________________
From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>
To: AM Radio <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 4:46:00 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?

The Ranger is a single 6146 plate,modulated

The T-150 is a pair of 6146's with controlled carrier.

How does the power output of these two compare. I would think it would be close.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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From wb4aeg at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 28 17:09:28 2010
From: wb4aeg at yahoo.com (Hal Dale)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?
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It is....Of course, the stock T150 doesn't sound as good as the Ranger. There 
are mods out there for the T150( google N4JK)...The T150 for it's simplicity 
worked quite well. As I'm sure you know, a properly adjusted controlled carrier 
rig sounds pretty good. As does the stock DX60...
On voice peaks, the T150 will produce a little more power...Hal
?








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From: Hal Dale <wb4aeg at yahoo.com>
To: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur 
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Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 5:04:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?

Plate mod vs control carrier mod (on the T150)...Hal, WB4AEG
?








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To: AM Radio <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 4:46:00 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?

The Ranger is a single 6146 plate,modulated

The T-150 is a pair of 6146's with controlled carrier.

How does the power output of these two compare. I would think it would be close.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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From macklinbob at msn.com  Tue Sep 28 17:15:21 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:15:21 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?
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I do have an operational DX-60 but have been considering trying for a Ranger 
but they all seem out of reach for me.

If a T-150 does about as well as a Ranger I may try for one of them.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Dale" <wb4aeg at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?


It is....Of course, the stock T150 doesn't sound as good as the Ranger. 
There
are mods out there for the T150( google N4JK)...The T150 for it's simplicity
worked quite well. As I'm sure you know, a properly adjusted controlled 
carrier
rig sounds pretty good. As does the stock DX60...
On voice peaks, the T150 will produce a little more power...Hal









CW.....When all else fails !!











________________________________
From: Hal Dale <wb4aeg at yahoo.com>
To: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur
Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 5:04:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?

Plate mod vs control carrier mod (on the T150)...Hal, WB4AEG









CW.....When all else fails !!











________________________________
From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>
To: AM Radio <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 4:46:00 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson Ranger vs Knight T-150?

The Ranger is a single 6146 plate,modulated

The T-150 is a pair of 6146's with controlled carrier.

How does the power output of these two compare. I would think it would be 
close.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
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From donmcm63 at bellsouth.net  Tue Sep 28 18:20:41 2010
From: donmcm63 at bellsouth.net (Donald R McMurray)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:20:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to everyone that responded
Message-ID: <690039.48215.qm@web180415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello all,

There are so many of you that took your time to explain AM radio, where it is most frequently used, it's comfortable style of conversation, and the technical aspects etc. There are too many of you to respond to individually, so I thought I would send this to the whole list thanking all of you very much. There seem to be a lot of nice people on this list, which isn't always the case on a few of the Yahoo Groups.

AM sounds like something I would like to try when I get my "ticket."

I will keep reading everyone's postings to the list and learn from your collective years of experience. I'll let you all know when I pass my exams. :-)

Have a nice evening,

Donald McMurray
Kingston, TN


From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Tue Sep 28 18:35:59 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:35:59 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to everyone that responded
References: <690039.48215.qm@web180415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A1C5981F28054D09858230DFA3134011@bernie>

by all means let us know when you are getting on the air. Ohio to TN is an 
easy hop on 80 meters. Bernie w8rpw
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald R McMurray" <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:20 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to everyone that responded


> Hello all,
>
> There are so many of you that took your time to explain AM radio, where it 
> is most frequently used, it's comfortable style of conversation, and the 
> technical aspects etc. There are too many of you to respond to 
> individually, so I thought I would send this to the whole list thanking 
> all of you very much. There seem to be a lot of nice people on this list, 
> which isn't always the case on a few of the Yahoo Groups.
>
> AM sounds like something I would like to try when I get my "ticket."
>
> I will keep reading everyone's postings to the list and learn from your 
> collective years of experience. I'll let you all know when I pass my 
> exams. :-)
>
> Have a nice evening,
>
> Donald McMurray
> Kingston, TN
>
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From knjhanlon at msn.com  Tue Sep 28 19:16:41 2010
From: knjhanlon at msn.com (JAMES HANLON)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:16:41 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
Message-ID: <SNT106-DS15F6C86D87D76F3D0808D3A0660@phx.gbl>

If a Ranger is a little pricey for you, consider an Elmac AF-67 or AF-68.  They are both single 6146 rigs like the Ranger with high level plate modulation and a built-in vfo.  The AF-67 covers 160 through 10 meters, bandswitched of course, and the AF-68 covers 80 through 6 meters.  They were both targeted for the mobile rig market, so they do not have a built-in power supply.  Elmac power supplies are available, however, or they operate handily from a home-brew supply or something like a Heathkit HP-23.

Another rig you might want to consider if you have a little more room would be a DX-100.  It has a pair of 6146's, push-pull 1625 high level plate modulators, a built-in vfo, and it is bandswitching from 160 through 10 meters.  Heath made a large number of them and they cost only $10 more than a Ranger, so there are still a lot of them around.  I have a DX-100 and several Johnson products including a Valiant, a Viking 1 with a Heath VF-1 vfo, a Viking 2 with a Johnson vfo, and an Adventurer with a Johnson vfo.  In my opinion, the VF-1 vfo and the vfo in the DX-100 have less long-term drift than the Johnson vfos do.  The Vikings are also good AM transmitters.  The Viking 1 was designed with a 4D32 in the final and modulated by a pair of 807s.  (The 4D32 was hard to find during the Korean War when many Viking 1s were sold, so many folks substituted an 829B or a pair of 807s instead.)  The Viking 2 uses a pair of 6146s modulated by 807s.  

73,

Jim, W8KGI

From macklinbob at msn.com  Tue Sep 28 19:34:40 2010
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:34:40 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
References: <SNT106-DS15F6C86D87D76F3D0808D3A0660@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP183813B5C3F1C9E1C2921A8C5660@phx.gbl>

I have to buy my toys on ebay. Both the Ranger and DX-100 get a lot of 
attention on eBay.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JAMES HANLON" <knjhanlon at msn.com>
To: "AMradio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100


> If a Ranger is a little pricey for you, consider an Elmac AF-67 or AF-68. 
> They are both single 6146 rigs like the Ranger with high level plate 
> modulation and a built-in vfo.  The AF-67 covers 160 through 10 meters, 
> bandswitched of course, and the AF-68 covers 80 through 6 meters.  They 
> were both targeted for the mobile rig market, so they do not have a 
> built-in power supply.  Elmac power supplies are available, however, or 
> they operate handily from a home-brew supply or something like a Heathkit 
> HP-23.
>
> Another rig you might want to consider if you have a little more room 
> would be a DX-100.  It has a pair of 6146's, push-pull 1625 high level 
> plate modulators, a built-in vfo, and it is bandswitching from 160 through 
> 10 meters.  Heath made a large number of them and they cost only $10 more 
> than a Ranger, so there are still a lot of them around.  I have a DX-100 
> and several Johnson products including a Valiant, a Viking 1 with a Heath 
> VF-1 vfo, a Viking 2 with a Johnson vfo, and an Adventurer with a Johnson 
> vfo.  In my opinion, the VF-1 vfo and the vfo in the DX-100 have less 
> long-term drift than the Johnson vfos do.  The Vikings are also good AM 
> transmitters.  The Viking 1 was designed with a 4D32 in the final and 
> modulated by a pair of 807s.  (The 4D32 was hard to find during the Korean 
> War when many Viking 1s were sold, so many folks substituted an 829B or a 
> pair of 807s instead.)  The Viking 2 uses a pair of 6146s modulated by 
> 807s.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, W8KGI
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From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Tue Sep 28 19:52:14 2010
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:52:14 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to everyone that responded
References: <690039.48215.qm@web180415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005101cb5f68$3f01c830$6a01a8c0@KWM380>

Hi Don,

Best wishes on getting your ticket!  My inlaws live just outside Lenoir City 
and we get down to see them a couple times a year.

Maybe we can get together sometime in the future!

73 Larry WA9VRH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald R McMurray" <donmcm63 at bellsouth.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to everyone that responded


> Hello all,
>
> There are so many of you that took your time to explain AM radio, where it 
> is most frequently used, it's comfortable style of conversation, and the 
> technical aspects etc. There are too many of you to respond to 
> individually, so I thought I would send this to the whole list thanking 
> all of you very much. There seem to be a lot of nice people on this list, 
> which isn't always the case on a few of the Yahoo Groups.
>
> AM sounds like something I would like to try when I get my "ticket."
>
> I will keep reading everyone's postings to the list and learn from your 
> collective years of experience. I'll let you all know when I pass my 
> exams. :-)
>
> Have a nice evening,
>
> Donald McMurray
> Kingston, TN
>
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From cosmophone at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 28 20:08:03 2010
From: cosmophone at yahoo.com (Brian Harris)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP183813B5C3F1C9E1C2921A8C5660@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT106-DS15F6C86D87D76F3D0808D3A0660@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP183813B5C3F1C9E1C2921A8C5660@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <70890.52564.qm@web62108.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Bob,

I think you should be able to find an AF-67 or AF-68 for under $100, even on 
ebay.  I have seen a few (stress on the few) Rangers go for $150 or less on ebay 
but they were not pretty and needed varying degrees of work.  They are not hard 
to work on.  My point is they can be had for less than the typical $275-400.

Another great rig that nobody mentioned is a Johnson Mobile.  I have several of 
them.  They typically sell for $50-75 and, of course, need a separate power 
supply and a VFO.  It's an 807 modulated by a pair of them and they sound great.

Brian Harris, WA5UEK
phone 214-763-5977
email cosmophone at yahoo.com
website www.myhamshack.com/wa5uek


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to 
answer "present" or "not guilty."  Theodore Roosevelt




________________________________
From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 6:34:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100

I have to buy my toys on ebay. Both the Ranger and DX-100 get a lot of 
attention on eBay.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JAMES HANLON" <knjhanlon at msn.com>
To: "AMradio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100


> If a Ranger is a little pricey for you, consider an Elmac AF-67 or AF-68. 
> They are both single 6146 rigs like the Ranger with high level plate 
> modulation and a built-in vfo.  The AF-67 covers 160 through 10 meters, 
> bandswitched of course, and the AF-68 covers 80 through 6 meters.  They 
> were both targeted for the mobile rig market, so they do not have a 
> built-in power supply.  Elmac power supplies are available, however, or 
> they operate handily from a home-brew supply or something like a Heathkit 
> HP-23.
>
> Another rig you might want to consider if you have a little more room 
> would be a DX-100.  It has a pair of 6146's, push-pull 1625 high level 
> plate modulators, a built-in vfo, and it is bandswitching from 160 through 
> 10 meters.  Heath made a large number of them and they cost only $10 more 
> than a Ranger, so there are still a lot of them around.  I have a DX-100 
> and several Johnson products including a Valiant, a Viking 1 with a Heath 
> VF-1 vfo, a Viking 2 with a Johnson vfo, and an Adventurer with a Johnson 
> vfo.  In my opinion, the VF-1 vfo and the vfo in the DX-100 have less 
> long-term drift than the Johnson vfos do.  The Vikings are also good AM 
> transmitters.  The Viking 1 was designed with a 4D32 in the final and 
> modulated by a pair of 807s.  (The 4D32 was hard to find during the Korean 
> War when many Viking 1s were sold, so many folks substituted an 829B or a 
> pair of 807s instead.)  The Viking 2 uses a pair of 6146s modulated by 
> 807s.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, W8KGI
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Tue Sep 28 21:08:55 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:08:55 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
In-Reply-To: <70890.52564.qm@web62108.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT106-DS15F6C86D87D76F3D0808D3A0660@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP183813B5C3F1C9E1C2921A8C5660@phx.gbl>
	<70890.52564.qm@web62108.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimO8Ebocb0GqG8xB+9zec=KnZ1ddr0CkweJkF_v@mail.gmail.com>

Even at hamfests the Rangers I have seen for under $200 are pretty bad
looking, as in missing a few parts, maybe some "after market" knobs... that
sort  of thing.  There are a a few factors that put it in the premium
class--first, classic looks and styling, second, includes 160 m., and third,
spread out the schematic and you'll almost be thinking you're looking at a
broadcast rig schematic if you ignore the tubes and component values.  Sure
a few items are missing like a mod. reactor but the basic layout and design
is very similar with touches like the neg. feedback in the audio.    And
then there are all the ways guys use them, as high powered VFOs, or amp
exciters and so on.

I'm not trying to damp enthusiasm because there are a lot of Rangers since
EFJ sold a bunch of them (fortunately) so sooner or later you'll find one at
your price.  It's just that the lower you need to go, the more patience you
need to have.   SK estate sales are one possibility and avoiding eBay in
favor of other on-line emporiums such as QTH.com, and of course, amswap may
be a better way to go.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Brian Harris <cosmophone at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I think you should be able to find an AF-67 or AF-68 for under $100, even
> on
> ebay.  I have seen a few (stress on the few) Rangers go for $150 or less on
> ebay
> but they were not pretty and needed varying degrees of work.  They are not
> hard
> to work on.  My point is they can be had for less than the typical
> $275-400.
>
> Another great rig that nobody mentioned is a Johnson Mobile.  I have
> several of
> them.  They typically sell for $50-75 and, of course, need a separate power
> supply and a VFO.  It's an 807 modulated by a pair of them and they sound
> great.
>
> Brian Harris, WA5UEK
> phone 214-763-5977
> email cosmophone at yahoo.com
> website www.myhamshack.com/wa5uek
>
>
> When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to
> answer "present" or "not guilty."  Theodore Roosevelt
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net
> >
> Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 6:34:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
>
> I have to buy my toys on ebay. Both the Ranger and DX-100 get a lot of
> attention on eBay.
>
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa.
> "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JAMES HANLON" <knjhanlon at msn.com>
> To: "AMradio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
>
>
> > If a Ranger is a little pricey for you, consider an Elmac AF-67 or AF-68.
> > They are both single 6146 rigs like the Ranger with high level plate
> > modulation and a built-in vfo.  The AF-67 covers 160 through 10 meters,
> > bandswitched of course, and the AF-68 covers 80 through 6 meters.  They
> > were both targeted for the mobile rig market, so they do not have a
> > built-in power supply.  Elmac power supplies are available, however, or
> > they operate handily from a home-brew supply or something like a Heathkit
> > HP-23.
> >
> > Another rig you might want to consider if you have a little more room
> > would be a DX-100.  It has a pair of 6146's, push-pull 1625 high level
> > plate modulators, a built-in vfo, and it is bandswitching from 160
> through
> > 10 meters.  Heath made a large number of them and they cost only $10 more
> > than a Ranger, so there are still a lot of them around.  I have a DX-100
> > and several Johnson products including a Valiant, a Viking 1 with a Heath
> > VF-1 vfo, a Viking 2 with a Johnson vfo, and an Adventurer with a Johnson
> > vfo.  In my opinion, the VF-1 vfo and the vfo in the DX-100 have less
> > long-term drift than the Johnson vfos do.  The Vikings are also good AM
> > transmitters.  The Viking 1 was designed with a 4D32 in the final and
> > modulated by a pair of 807s.  (The 4D32 was hard to find during the
> Korean
> > War when many Viking 1s were sold, so many folks substituted an 829B or a
> > pair of 807s instead.)  The Viking 2 uses a pair of 6146s modulated by
> > 807s.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim, W8KGI
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From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep 29 00:05:39 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:05:39 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
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I've had two Rangers and three AF 67's  and one AH 54 over the years.
My choice is the AF 67 because they are dirt cheap at the hamfests. $50 will 
get you a fair example. They will work with a carbon mic and also do FM. 
You will have to build or buy a fairly stout power supply and locate the 
right connector for the power.  The Heathkit mobile power supply for tube 
transceivers is the right one.
Power output is the same as the Ranger, vfo is stable.
Loading is set up for mobile antennas but doesn't really create a problem.
If you want a plug and play system get a Ranger with a warranty, if you are 
handy with a soldering iron try an Elmac.
73's
Greg
WA7LYO
Kinston NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Atkinson" <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100


> Even at hamfests the Rangers I have seen for under $200 are pretty bad
> looking, as in missing a few parts, maybe some "after market" knobs... 
> that
> sort  of thing.  There are a a few factors that put it in the premium
> class--first, classic looks and styling, second, includes 160 m., and 
> third,
> spread out the schematic and you'll almost be thinking you're looking at a
> broadcast rig schematic if you ignore the tubes and component values. 
> Sure
> a few items are missing like a mod. reactor but the basic layout and 
> design
> is very similar with touches like the neg. feedback in the audio.    And
> then there are all the ways guys use them, as high powered VFOs, or amp
> exciters and so on.
>
> I'm not trying to damp enthusiasm because there are a lot of Rangers since
> EFJ sold a bunch of them (fortunately) so sooner or later you'll find one 
> at
> your price.  It's just that the lower you need to go, the more patience 
> you
> need to have.   SK estate sales are one possibility and avoiding eBay in
> favor of other on-line emporiums such as QTH.com, and of course, amswap 
> may
> be a better way to go.
>
> 73
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Brian Harris <cosmophone at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I think you should be able to find an AF-67 or AF-68 for under $100, even
>> on
>> ebay.  I have seen a few (stress on the few) Rangers go for $150 or less 
>> on
>> ebay
>> but they were not pretty and needed varying degrees of work.  They are 
>> not
>> hard
>> to work on.  My point is they can be had for less than the typical
>> $275-400.
>>
>> Another great rig that nobody mentioned is a Johnson Mobile.  I have
>> several of
>> them.  They typically sell for $50-75 and, of course, need a separate 
>> power
>> supply and a VFO.  It's an 807 modulated by a pair of them and they sound
>> great.
>>
>> Brian Harris, WA5UEK
>> phone 214-763-5977
>> email cosmophone at yahoo.com
>> website www.myhamshack.com/wa5uek
>>
>>
>> When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether 
>> to
>> answer "present" or "not guilty."  Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com>
>> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net
>> >
>> Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 6:34:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
>>
>> I have to buy my toys on ebay. Both the Ranger and DX-100 get a lot of
>> attention on eBay.
>>
>> Bob Macklin
>> K5MYJ
>> Seattle, Wa.
>> "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JAMES HANLON" <knjhanlon at msn.com>
>> To: "AMradio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:16 PM
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
>>
>>
>> > If a Ranger is a little pricey for you, consider an Elmac AF-67 or 
>> > AF-68.
>> > They are both single 6146 rigs like the Ranger with high level plate
>> > modulation and a built-in vfo.  The AF-67 covers 160 through 10 meters,
>> > bandswitched of course, and the AF-68 covers 80 through 6 meters.  They
>> > were both targeted for the mobile rig market, so they do not have a
>> > built-in power supply.  Elmac power supplies are available, however, or
>> > they operate handily from a home-brew supply or something like a 
>> > Heathkit
>> > HP-23.
>> >
>> > Another rig you might want to consider if you have a little more room
>> > would be a DX-100.  It has a pair of 6146's, push-pull 1625 high level
>> > plate modulators, a built-in vfo, and it is bandswitching from 160
>> through
>> > 10 meters.  Heath made a large number of them and they cost only $10 
>> > more
>> > than a Ranger, so there are still a lot of them around.  I have a 
>> > DX-100
>> > and several Johnson products including a Valiant, a Viking 1 with a 
>> > Heath
>> > VF-1 vfo, a Viking 2 with a Johnson vfo, and an Adventurer with a 
>> > Johnson
>> > vfo.  In my opinion, the VF-1 vfo and the vfo in the DX-100 have less
>> > long-term drift than the Johnson vfos do.  The Vikings are also good AM
>> > transmitters.  The Viking 1 was designed with a 4D32 in the final and
>> > modulated by a pair of 807s.  (The 4D32 was hard to find during the
>> Korean
>> > War when many Viking 1s were sold, so many folks substituted an 829B or 
>> > a
>> > pair of 807s instead.)  The Viking 2 uses a pair of 6146s modulated by
>> > 807s.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Jim, W8KGI
>> > ______________________________________________________________
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 07:47:34 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:47:34 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger vs T-150 vs Elmac vs DX-100
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I've never owned an AF67 but in addition to what Greg wrote, I have heard
they are very ruggedly built because they were made for mobile use.

Rob
K5UJ


On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Greg Mijal <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>wrote:

>
> I've had two Rangers and three AF 67's  and one AH 54 over the years.
> My choice is the AF 67 because they are dirt cheap at the hamfests. $50
> will
> get you a fair example. They will work with a carbon mic and also do FM.
> You will have to build or buy a fairly stout power supply and locate the
> right connector for the power.  The Heathkit mobile power supply for tube
> transceivers is the right one.
> Power output is the same as the Ranger, vfo is stable.
> Loading is set up for mobile antennas but doesn't really create a problem.
> If you want a plug and play system get a Ranger with a warranty, if you are
> handy with a soldering iron try an Elmac.
> 73's
> Greg
> WA7LYO
> Kinston NC
>

From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:34:44 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (Kevin Raper)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:34:44 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to everyone that responded
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On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Donald R McMurray wrote:

> AM sounds like something I would like to try when I get my "ticket."

AM is the reason I got my ticket! I heard WA!HLR "Timtron" and others having a ball so I wanted to join in on the fun.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn




From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:51:19 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (Kevin Raper)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:51:19 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Usages of AM in the amateur context
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On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Clarke, Tom AIR4.0P NATOPS wrote:

> Now if we can just drop the
> "for ID" that seems to be appended to all transmissions, life will be
> good.

Locally, we have the "Repeater Cops" that are getting everybody busted for the dumbest things, including IDing 30 seconds too late. So, now about every other sentence people are saying the calls "For ID".

> All in all, it's better to have some activity on the machine,
> instead of the thundering silence normally experienced!

Several of us locals are now hanging out on 160 Meters and 75 Meters AM all of the time, rather than mess with the repeater.

73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn




From jc at pctechref.com  Thu Sep 30 10:48:52 2010
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:48:52 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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Well the weather has really been nice here in south Texas. And I getting a
hankerin for some late night AM with the cookie warmer Big AM rig and
coffee.
John, WA5BXO 


From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 11:13:00 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:13:00 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Coleman <jc at pctechref.com> wrote:
> Well the weather has really been nice here in south Texas. And I getting a
> hankerin for some late night AM with the cookie warmer Big AM rig and
> coffee.

We've had some good night already, John. Night-before last a group of
us were down in the 80m portion until almost 2AM. Great signals,
minimal static. Stations in 2, 3, and 4 Land taking part.

Of course, when I fired up the next day with a group, my transmitter
decided to start munching fuses again. Fortunately it was right at
sign off, but I've not been able to track down the problem yet, so he
transmitter is torn apart and scattered around the garage at this
point!

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 30 13:53:17 2010
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:53:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] XFMR info needed
Message-ID: <151581.9704.qm@web53202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I recently picked up a Heath HA10 Warrior amp to finish out my Heath station.  Come to find out the PS had been gutted, and rebuilt with only a power XFMR. a full wave bridge rectifier, and about 16uf of filter, which put over 2KV on the plates of the 811's in standby, it pins the meter out.  The missing swinging choke must have met the same demise as the power XFMR considering the amount of blackness that was left under the chassis.

I got some good info here on the UTC S-45 'Special Service' transformer currently in the amp, but, unless I looked at the specs wrong, it is rated at only 200ma CCS.  The original Heath was around 3KV at 500MA with a full wave rect., a swinging choke in the center tap and 8uf of filter.

Was digging in my stuff and found a nice xfmr with a 1100V at 700ma center tapped secondary, some government surplus find from years ago.  The thing is, this surplus transformer is somewhat smaller than the UTC S-45, which has a 750/900 center tapped secondary and only 200ma rating. 

So, is that UTC 200ma CCS rating wrong, did I read it wrong, or did UTC spec out their xfmrs extremely concervatively?  I have not put RF to this amp yet to see how much  the voltage sagged under load, but in it's present form, the regulation won't be there for AM operation

Thanks for any help,

Charlie, W4MEC in NC 


      

From kelly at k7su.com  Thu Sep 30 16:16:09 2010
From: kelly at k7su.com (K7SU)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:16:09 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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Todd,

What kind of xmtr is eating the fuses?  I have a Viking II that was doing 
that for a time but then it kind of settled down and
hasn't blown one for quite awhile.  Of course, now that I said that......

Just curious.

K7SU
Kelly
Twin Falls, ID.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: <jc at pctechref.com>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 09:13
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Winter


> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Coleman <jc at pctechref.com> wrote:
>> Well the weather has really been nice here in south Texas. And I getting 
>> a
>> hankerin for some late night AM with the cookie warmer Big AM rig and
>> coffee.
>
> We've had some good night already, John. Night-before last a group of
> us were down in the 80m portion until almost 2AM. Great signals,
> minimal static. Stations in 2, 3, and 4 Land taking part.
>
> Of course, when I fired up the next day with a group, my transmitter
> decided to start munching fuses again. Fortunately it was right at
> sign off, but I've not been able to track down the problem yet, so he
> transmitter is torn apart and scattered around the garage at this
> point!
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
> ______________________________________________________________
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 17:12:46 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:12:46 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM, K7SU <kelly at k7su.com> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> What kind of xmtr is eating the fuses? ?I have a Viking II that was doing
> that for a time but then it kind of settled down and
> hasn't blown one for quite awhile. ?Of course, now that I said that......
>
> Just curious.

It's an old KW-1, Kelly. Circa 1953. After getting the top loading cap
out of it to clean up and arc tracks, I pulled out the two front HV
feed-thru insulators. First one was clean as a whistle, but the second
one associated with the plate choke had a hole burned through the
ceramic and was arcing where it passed through the chassis, out of
sight, covered by the insulator and its gaskets. This is a known fault
in these transmitters but I'd never checked all 3 of the insulators
before. They are an odd size, but fortunately I have a spare that I
came across in my parts a week or so back. Good timing!

So if all goes well, the old girl will be back on the air tomorrow.
I've had this flaky intermittent gremlin for years with this
transmitter, hopefully it's solved.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From esieb at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 30 17:22:24 2010
From: esieb at sympatico.ca (Ed Sieb)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:22:24 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <C52B6D1B8DBC4C16B75454C6DF4B5CAB@basement>
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I believe he's using a KW-1.  Or maybe a broadcast rig?  (To be honest, I haven't been
keeping up ;-) )

Ed, VA3ES
------------------------------------------------------------
K7SU wrote:
What kind of xmtr is eating the fuses?


From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Thu Sep 30 17:08:51 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:08:51 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] XFMR info needed
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The only way you are going to know for sure which transfomer to use is to 
build up the supply on a table top and load it down with a  hi-watt load 
resistor. I build power supplies pretty frequently and this seems the only 
way to really know what the supply will do or not do.  Manufacturers print 
funny stuff on the side to indicate what the transformer is rated at.  Some, 
like Stancor have the typical 260-0-260 marked on the side. Meaning 260 p-p 
each side of the center tap.  Others, particularly military stuff have odd 
markings like 800v 300ma.  Those are the ones you have to run up on a load 
resistors to figure out what it really does.
Anyway, good luck.  Power supply building is part science and part witch 
craft.
73's
Greg
WA7LYO
Kinston NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
To: "AM radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:53 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] XFMR info needed


>I recently picked up a Heath HA10 Warrior amp to finish out my Heath 
>station.  Come to find out the PS had been gutted, and rebuilt with only a 
>power XFMR. a full wave bridge rectifier, and about 16uf of filter, which 
>put over 2KV on the plates of the 811's in standby, it pins the meter out. 
>The missing swinging choke must have met the same demise as the power XFMR 
>considering the amount of blackness that was left under the chassis.
>
> I got some good info here on the UTC S-45 'Special Service' transformer 
> currently in the amp, but, unless I looked at the specs wrong, it is rated 
> at only 200ma CCS.  The original Heath was around 3KV at 500MA with a full 
> wave rect., a swinging choke in the center tap and 8uf of filter.
>
> Was digging in my stuff and found a nice xfmr with a 1100V at 700ma center 
> tapped secondary, some government surplus find from years ago.  The thing 
> is, this surplus transformer is somewhat smaller than the UTC S-45, which 
> has a 750/900 center tapped secondary and only 200ma rating.
>
> So, is that UTC 200ma CCS rating wrong, did I read it wrong, or did UTC 
> spec out their xfmrs extremely concervatively?  I have not put RF to this 
> amp yet to see how much  the voltage sagged under load, but in it's 
> present form, the regulation won't be there for AM operation
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
>
>
>
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 18:57:36 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:57:36 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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Todd,  that's a downer.  I was planning on trying to join you all tonight.
 I have to work in the morning so no 2 AM operating here for me, but I took
today off because the wx was so wonderful and tried to do a little winter
prep work on the "antenna farm."   Maybe in my case it is more like an
antenna garden.  I stupidly reused old wire for the 160 m. inverted L last
year because I was in a hurry naturally, and did not even think to do it
right with all new wire.   So I thought I'd take it down today and restring
it with new no. 12 stranded.  The old wire had some splices in it too,
because I kept adding on to it.  I put all my wire antennas up with marine
pulleys so I could drop them whenever I need to so I figured this would be a
quick job.  Well I find out the darn pulley up at the top of the mast
holding the vertical 50 foot part is jammed.  I think I know what happened,
but to get to it means taking a lot of stuff down and tilting over the
mast--a real pain in the drain so I decided to use the existing wire until
it breaks and I _have_ to fix it (which will probably be in January, you
know how that goes).   The old wire works okay--I should have left it alone.

Do you use 872s in the KW1 or have you put in the s.s. replacements?

John, do you drink fake coffee (decaf) late at night?   My post-5 pm coffee
days are over.



73

Rob
K5UJ


>

From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 19:29:48 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:29:48 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd, ?that's a downer. ?I was planning on trying to join you all tonight.
> ?I have to work in the morning so no 2 AM operating here for me, but I took
> today off because the wx was so wonderful and tried to do a little winter
> prep work on the "antenna farm."

I'm heading back out in a bit to start reassembly, but I won't have it
done until tomorrow because I can't find my crocus cloth and need to
go get another sheet. CRS is setting in.

> I decided to use the existing wire until
> it breaks and I _have_ to fix it (which will probably be in January, you
> know how that goes). ? The old wire works okay--I should have left it alone.

When I got back on 75 in 2005 I used the same old aerial that was up
in '94 but came down. Wire was okay but the feedline sure did stink.
Was so lossy, I could tune up anywhere without issue. Finally built a
heavy duty replacement half-wave, coax-fed, utilizing large diameter
mil surplus wire from a buddy. Now it's bullet-proof. I'm taking the
B&W center insulator from my 40m dipole up to NEAR-Fest and we're
going to rebuild it there during the event. Got some nice egg
insulators, all ready to go. True, it would probably work best if I
waited until January.

> Do you use 872s in the KW1 or have you put in the s.s. replacements?

Neither. I went to 4B32 xenon replacements years back. They're a drop
in sub, look like the 872s, make a nice glow that you can't see with
the panel on, and have none of the extended warm up/arc over issues of
MV. Solid state tends to slam everything pretty hard, giving up the
slow(in comparison) warm up time of tubes. At least a little bit of
soft start.

We'll look for you over the weekend, Rob -

~ Todd/KAQ

From bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com  Thu Sep 30 21:51:40 2010
From: bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com (Greg Mijal)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:51:40 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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What time and frequency are you round tabling on?
My Valiant is dusted off and ready for winter AM madness.
I'm about 100 m eastish of Todd here in NC.
73's
Greg
WA7LYO
Kinston NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Winter


On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd, that's a downer. I was planning on trying to join you all tonight.
> I have to work in the morning so no 2 AM operating here for me, but I took
> today off because the wx was so wonderful and tried to do a little winter
> prep work on the "antenna farm."

I'm heading back out in a bit to start reassembly, but I won't have it
done until tomorrow because I can't find my crocus cloth and need to
go get another sheet. CRS is setting in.

> I decided to use the existing wire until
> it breaks and I _have_ to fix it (which will probably be in January, you
> know how that goes). The old wire works okay--I should have left it alone.

When I got back on 75 in 2005 I used the same old aerial that was up
in '94 but came down. Wire was okay but the feedline sure did stink.
Was so lossy, I could tune up anywhere without issue. Finally built a
heavy duty replacement half-wave, coax-fed, utilizing large diameter
mil surplus wire from a buddy. Now it's bullet-proof. I'm taking the
B&W center insulator from my 40m dipole up to NEAR-Fest and we're
going to rebuild it there during the event. Got some nice egg
insulators, all ready to go. True, it would probably work best if I
waited until January.

> Do you use 872s in the KW1 or have you put in the s.s. replacements?

Neither. I went to 4B32 xenon replacements years back. They're a drop
in sub, look like the 872s, make a nice glow that you can't see with
the panel on, and have none of the extended warm up/arc over issues of
MV. Solid state tends to slam everything pretty hard, giving up the
slow(in comparison) warm up time of tubes. At least a little bit of
soft start.

We'll look for you over the weekend, Rob -

~ Todd/KAQ
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 22:15:16 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:15:16 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
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Well, I was on 3725 a little while ago with VE6PG, the other Tim Smith, and
Bill KB8USZ.  We called it a night a little while ago but had a good QSO for
about 90 minutes with Tim on his Apache and Bill on a FT847 running about 25
watts.  Bill was pretty tough to copy most of the time but at the end (it
always happens this way) he was a lot easier to hear.   I listened to 3705
but there's a bunch of SSB on and around it now.     So Greg, I think
typically now it is 3705 outside of the "window."

I have pair 4D32 solid state replacements--going to use them in my hb amp if
they don't blow open.

rob
K5UJ


On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Greg Mijal <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com>wrote:

> What time and frequency are you round tabling on?
> My Valiant is dusted off and ready for winter AM madness.
> I'm about 100 m eastish of Todd here in NC.
> 73's
> Greg
> WA7LYO
> Kinston NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Winter
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Todd, that's a downer. I was planning on trying to join you all tonight.
> > I have to work in the morning so no 2 AM operating here for me, but I
> took
> > today off because the wx was so wonderful and tried to do a little winter
> > prep work on the "antenna farm."
>
> I'm heading back out in a bit to start reassembly, but I won't have it
> done until tomorrow because I can't find my crocus cloth and need to
> go get another sheet. CRS is setting in.
>
> > I decided to use the existing wire until
> > it breaks and I _have_ to fix it (which will probably be in January, you
> > know how that goes). The old wire works okay--I should have left it
> alone.
>
> When I got back on 75 in 2005 I used the same old aerial that was up
> in '94 but came down. Wire was okay but the feedline sure did stink.
> Was so lossy, I could tune up anywhere without issue. Finally built a
> heavy duty replacement half-wave, coax-fed, utilizing large diameter
> mil surplus wire from a buddy. Now it's bullet-proof. I'm taking the
> B&W center insulator from my 40m dipole up to NEAR-Fest and we're
> going to rebuild it there during the event. Got some nice egg
> insulators, all ready to go. True, it would probably work best if I
> waited until January.
>
> > Do you use 872s in the KW1 or have you put in the s.s. replacements?
>
> Neither. I went to 4B32 xenon replacements years back. They're a drop
> in sub, look like the 872s, make a nice glow that you can't see with
> the panel on, and have none of the extended warm up/arc over issues of
> MV. Solid state tends to slam everything pretty hard, giving up the
> slow(in comparison) warm up time of tubes. At least a little bit of
> soft start.
>
> We'll look for you over the weekend, Rob -
>
> ~ Todd/KAQ
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 22:16:45 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:16:45 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <DB150CA61E4D4D60A2027A9D2D256ED1@GregMijalPC>
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Hey Greg -

We hang out down in the 80m portion below 3750, anywhere form 3705 to
3735 or so, but usually toward the lower end.

Just got finished clearing tiny arc tracks from one of the big air
variables, just need to wash it down and it'll be ready to put back
in. So I *might* be back on the air tonight. That end of the band is
pretty wide open right now. Been out there listening while working on
the transmitter.

There's a good group from on 05 most afternoons. WB4EZ, N4CCA, W3JW,
WA4PGI and others.

Hope to catch you down there, Greg.

~ Todd/KAQ

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Greg Mijal <bluebirdtele at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> What time and frequency are you round tabling on?
> My Valiant is dusted off and ready for winter AM madness.
> I'm about 100 m eastish of Todd here in NC.
> 73's
> Greg
> WA7LYO
> Kinston NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Winter
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Todd, that's a downer. I was planning on trying to join you all tonight.
>> I have to work in the morning so no 2 AM operating here for me, but I took
>> today off because the wx was so wonderful and tried to do a little winter
>> prep work on the "antenna farm."
>
> I'm heading back out in a bit to start reassembly, but I won't have it
> done until tomorrow because I can't find my crocus cloth and need to
> go get another sheet. CRS is setting in.
>
>> I decided to use the existing wire until
>> it breaks and I _have_ to fix it (which will probably be in January, you
>> know how that goes). The old wire works okay--I should have left it alone.
>
> When I got back on 75 in 2005 I used the same old aerial that was up
> in '94 but came down. Wire was okay but the feedline sure did stink.
> Was so lossy, I could tune up anywhere without issue. Finally built a
> heavy duty replacement half-wave, coax-fed, utilizing large diameter
> mil surplus wire from a buddy. Now it's bullet-proof. I'm taking the
> B&W center insulator from my 40m dipole up to NEAR-Fest and we're
> going to rebuild it there during the event. Got some nice egg
> insulators, all ready to go. True, it would probably work best if I
> waited until January.
>
>> Do you use 872s in the KW1 or have you put in the s.s. replacements?
>
> Neither. I went to 4B32 xenon replacements years back. They're a drop
> in sub, look like the 872s, make a nice glow that you can't see with
> the panel on, and have none of the extended warm up/arc over issues of
> MV. Solid state tends to slam everything pretty hard, giving up the
> slow(in comparison) warm up time of tubes. At least a little bit of
> soft start.
>
> We'll look for you over the weekend, Rob -
>
> ~ Todd/KAQ
> ______________________________________________________________
> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 22:23:14 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:23:14 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BY64vo96Ar3WS0odadC=J0SeecWawh15AbC=z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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I think those SSB twirps moved off. They were up on 09 or 10 and
decided to light up and operate on 'their' frequency while complaining
about an ongoing AM group on 05 that had been there since late
afternoon. They all signed off in the last hour.

Rob, 3725 is a long time Canadian AM frequency. I used to listen to
them on there years before that part of the bad was opened up to us
for 'fone operation. Heard Tim a week or so back with Al, VE3AJM and
some 8 lander who was pissweak. Worked Al for the first time since
moving south, S9 +30. Chatted with them most evenings back up north.

I'm off to give the loading cap a quick bath now that it's been
de-burred, then back to the fun of trying to install it. Space is
tight in the RF deck, but at 200 lbs or more, removing the whole deck
by myself isn't an option anymore. Did it back in the early 90s, still
not sure how!

~ Todd/KAQ

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I was on 3725 a little while ago with VE6PG, the other Tim Smith, and
> Bill KB8USZ. ?We called it a night a little while ago but had a good QSO for
> about 90 minutes with Tim on his Apache and Bill on a FT847 running about 25
> watts. ?Bill was pretty tough to copy most of the time but at the end (it
> always happens this way) he was a lot easier to hear. ? I listened to 3705
> but there's a bunch of SSB on and around it now. ? ? So Greg, I think
> typically now it is 3705 outside of the "window."

From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 22:29:03 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:29:03 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=mGDwqXh4m+1vyudUZPUVa4qtZgPnOUmK-NP_2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Todd, just a quick note:  I heard from Steve W9SWR that an ultrasonic bath
is a great way to clean submersible parts.  Knobs, coils, RF connectors,
caps, etc., the gunk just comes right off with a 20 or 30 minute bath then
rinse them off and they look great.  The hard part is finding an ultrasonic
bath that is big and powerful but for hams who are in restoration in a big
way it's a great technique.   Even a small one can handle knobs and
connectors.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think those SSB twirps moved off. They were up on 09 or 10 and
> decided to light up and operate on 'their' frequency while complaining
> about an ongoing AM group on 05 that had been there since late
> afternoon. They all signed off in the last hour.
>
> Rob, 3725 is a long time Canadian AM frequency. I used to listen to
> them on there years before that part of the bad was opened up to us
> for 'fone operation. Heard Tim a week or so back with Al, VE3AJM and
> some 8 lander who was pissweak. Worked Al for the first time since
> moving south, S9 +30. Chatted with them most evenings back up north.
>
> I'm off to give the loading cap a quick bath now that it's been
> de-burred, then back to the fun of trying to install it. Space is
> tight in the RF deck, but at 200 lbs or more, removing the whole deck
> by myself isn't an option anymore. Did it back in the early 90s, still
> not sure how!
>
> ~ Todd/KAQ
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Well, I was on 3725 a little while ago with VE6PG, the other Tim Smith,
> and
> > Bill KB8USZ.  We called it a night a little while ago but had a good QSO
> for
> > about 90 minutes with Tim on his Apache and Bill on a FT847 running about
> 25
> > watts.  Bill was pretty tough to copy most of the time but at the end (it
> > always happens this way) he was a lot easier to hear.   I listened to
> 3705
> > but there's a bunch of SSB on and around it now.     So Greg, I think
> > typically now it is 3705 outside of the "window."
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 22:37:29 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:37:29 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimsvuf0mUJU8LdDN7dHa4KJfErhXvdhBgYxBN8M@mail.gmail.com>
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Not much chance of laying my mitts on one at 2230 on a Thursday night
in the boondocks. We had one in the photo lab I worked for back in the
late 80s. Stainless steel and plywood coated with urethane, worked
great until I decided to melt some dry ice in the wooden part for
effect. Looked great, but cracked the coating and made the sink leak.
Boss was not please. Not as mad as he was when I put the cardboard
shark fin in our storefront window display full of fake icebergs,
snow, and penguins, but that's a story for another day.....

Back to the fun!

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd, just a quick note: ?I heard from Steve W9SWR that an ultrasonic bath
> is a great way to clean submersible parts. ?Knobs, coils, RF connectors,
> caps, etc., the gunk just comes right off with a 20 or 30 minute bath then
> rinse them off and they look great. ?The hard part is finding an ultrasonic
> bath that is big and powerful but for hams who are in restoration in a big
> way it's a great technique. ? Even a small one can handle knobs and
> connectors.
>
> 73
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think those SSB twirps moved off. They were up on 09 or 10 and
>> decided to light up and operate on 'their' frequency while complaining
>> about an ongoing AM group on 05 that had been there since late
>> afternoon. They all signed off in the last hour.
>>
>> Rob, 3725 is a long time Canadian AM frequency. I used to listen to
>> them on there years before that part of the bad was opened up to us
>> for 'fone operation. Heard Tim a week or so back with Al, VE3AJM and
>> some 8 lander who was pissweak. Worked Al for the first time since
>> moving south, S9 +30. Chatted with them most evenings back up north.
>>
>> I'm off to give the loading cap a quick bath now that it's been
>> de-burred, then back to the fun of trying to install it. Space is
>> tight in the RF deck, but at 200 lbs or more, removing the whole deck
>> by myself isn't an option anymore. Did it back in the early 90s, still
>> not sure how!
>>
>> ~ Todd/KAQ
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Well, I was on 3725 a little while ago with VE6PG, the other Tim Smith,
>> and
>> > Bill KB8USZ. ?We called it a night a little while ago but had a good QSO
>> for
>> > about 90 minutes with Tim on his Apache and Bill on a FT847 running about
>> 25
>> > watts. ?Bill was pretty tough to copy most of the time but at the end (it
>> > always happens this way) he was a lot easier to hear. ? I listened to
>> 3705
>> > but there's a bunch of SSB on and around it now. ? ? So Greg, I think
>> > typically now it is 3705 outside of the "window."
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From w5omr at att.net  Thu Sep 30 22:57:41 2010
From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff Edmonson)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:57:41 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <004101cb60ae$99b98780$cd2c9680$@com>
References: <830021.84456.qm@web180416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><20100927072035.QPUI16314.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net><6DC5FF4C0203439A8FF14B2FA0CDA7BD@brettPC><BLU0-SMTP153BC35BDDF117AB306E517C5660@phx.gbl>	<87A200FB-C98E-437F-8CBB-4DAFEB5C0BCF@gmail.com>	<0A42C9977A08AB469EE05E78D5E14A7969715D@naeaocenez07v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil>	<741C984C-13CD-4069-927A-16FB1F5B3F1B@gmail.com>
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  On 09/30/2010 09:48 AM, John Coleman wrote:
> Well the weather has really been nice here in south Texas. And I getting a
> hankerin for some late night AM with the cookie warmer Big AM rig and
> coffee.
> John, WA5BXO
>

Let me know.  I wanna get on the air, too!  Been -toooo- long without 
sufficient RF exposure.

--
73 - Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR
(/5 Baja Spring, TX)


From w5omr at att.net  Thu Sep 30 23:00:32 2010
From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff Edmonson)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:00:32 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimS7KDJDmDiZgxDbFLgsgS0g8qLWuRbQew7q6cC@mail.gmail.com>
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  On 09/30/2010 05:57 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
> John, do you drink fake coffee (decaf) late at night?   My post-5 pm coffee
> days are over.

Decaf?  What's the point?
;-)



From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 23:04:31 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:04:31 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Winter
In-Reply-To: <4CA54ED0.1040308@att.net>
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I _completely_ agree!!

R.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Geoff Edmonson <w5omr at att.net> wrote:

>  On 09/30/2010 05:57 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
> > John, do you drink fake coffee (decaf) late at night?   My post-5 pm
> coffee
> > days are over.
>
> Decaf?  What's the point?
> ;-)
>
>
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