[AMRadio] SPAM/Bounces

Mon Oct 18 15:15:25 EDT 2010

I only use yahoo email for the ham radio email reflectors, since so many of those ham radio email reflectors are indeed yahoo user groups. 

I do know from my email account used for personal emails that a certain number of users flagging emails from any one server source as spam will get that source blocked by my ISP.

There is no way for any service provider to stop spammers completely. These email reflectors for ham radio use have spammers joining the various groups all the time with no other purpose in mind than gathering email addresses for themselves to use. How is it you believe gmail can stop spammers from joining the various ham radio email reflectors and control this situation? Does gmail have control of qth.net or any other ham radio based user group? Even if all the ham radio user groups that have email reflectors were resident on google servers, the same spam problem would exist.

I setup my yahoo email account for ham radio email reflector use only BECAUSE I knew in advance it would be subject to spammers and I didn't want that in my personal or business email.

It's just way too easy for spammers to join the various ham radio user groups and gather the email adresses of hundreds or thousands of users in a very short length of time.

I fully understand that this stuation brings on a real headache for administrators of ham radio user groups. I fully understand that the ham radio related user groups and email reflectors are not usually operated by full time professionals and I don't expect or demand that kind of service or protection from any of them. I never flag any emails received on this account as being spam since that might cause the email bounce problem, I just delete all the spam and carry on like it was never there. Admittedly I do receive a lot of spam from the ham radio email reflectors but I handle it myself, one of the advantages of being retired and having more time than most.

N4VGB
Mack Rogers

--- On Mon, 10/18/10, W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] SPAM/Bounces
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 1:46 PM
> Fact is, YOU won't since you are
> using Yahoo.  Yahoo and AOL are not paying
> attention.  It's not just this list, but many, if not
> all those on
> qth.comthat are being effected.
> 
> The problem is that those in the group, who are not using
> Yahoo or AOL,
> their ISP's are beginning to block the spam messages from
> this group as
> SPAM, and the AMRadio list server will eventually turn
> their account off due
> to excessive bounces, and those bounces are due to SPAM.
> 
> Jim/jo, please chime in here if you will.
> 
> I am not making this up folks.  I've run this list for
> many years and I am
> seeing accounts disabled left and right over the last day
> or so over this.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Mack Rogers <n4vgb at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I've never received any spam that I recognized as
> coming from a legitimate
> > regular user of this email reflector?
> >
> > I've used yahoo mail for years with no problems.
> >
> > SPAM that seems to originate from a legitimate user
> may be linked to those
> > who use facebook also? In the signup process for
> facebook you are allowing
> > facebook to access your email lists and download all
> the info contained
> > there. Every time someone I know starts a facebook
> page I receive an email
> > announcement of their new facebook page that appears
> to originate from them
> > personally but is actually generated and sent from the
> facebook website. My
> > wife has a facebook page and has suffered the
> embarrassment of having her
> > regular email contacts receive spam that appears to
> originate from her.
> > Facebook has used the lame excuse twice now that
> someone has hacked her
> > account and she has changed her password twice. The
> excuse is BS, the spam
> > originates from facebook itself.
> >
> > N4VGB
> > Mack Rogers
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [AMRadio] SPAM/Bounces
> > > To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur
> Service" <
> > amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 12:17 PM
> > > Those of you that are using Yahoo,
> > > AOL, and some others, need to complain to
> > > your provider that hackers are using your email
> accounts to
> > > send SPAM
> > > "through" your address, and it is affecting this
> email list
> > > in a bad way.  I
> > > have no control of this matter now other than
> suspending
> > > all those who are
> > > using those providers.  I know it's not your
> fault,
> > > however this has been
> > > going far too long, and those like Yahoo, and AOL
> don't
> > > seem to be in any
> > > hurry to block these people from using YOUR
> account.
> > >
> > > I can not allow this list to be destroyed after
> 13 years or
> > > more due to this
> > > issue.  Complain to them!  If not,
> unsubscribe
> > > and get another email
> > > provider like Gmail or something and resubscribe
> with your
> > > new email
> > > account.  I'm sorry about this, but it's
> beyond my
> > > control.
> > >
> > > Brian / w5ami
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brian Sherrod - A.R.S. W5AMI
> > > My website: "Arkansas Airwaves" - http://arkansasairwaves.net
> > > Email : ars.w5ami at gmail.com
> > >
> > > "It is discouraging how many people are shocked
> by honesty
> > > and how few by
> > > deceit".
> > >
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> -- 
> Brian Sherrod - A.R.S. W5AMI
> My website: "Arkansas Airwaves" - http://arkansasairwaves.net
> Email : ars.w5ami at gmail.com
> 
> "It is discouraging how many people are shocked by honesty
> and how few by
> deceit".
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