From wrl at gwltd.com  Tue Jun  1 07:45:21 2010
From: wrl at gwltd.com (Dave Mayfield W9WRL)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:45:21 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
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Message-ID: <4C04F2D1.6060301@gwltd.com>

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  1 08:58:05 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 05:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
In-Reply-To: <4C04F2D1.6060301@gwltd.com>
Message-ID: <107629.52256.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have had a DX-60 for a couple of weeks now. I have done repairs and mods on it and it works great.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
?
Brian/KF5CCN

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:

From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:45 AM

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From n9ysq at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 10:48:58 2010
From: n9ysq at yahoo.com (Todd Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:48:58 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
Message-ID: <803514.76106.qm@smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.  The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 07:58
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

I have had a DX-60 for a couple of weeks now. I have done repairs and mods on it and it works great.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
?
Brian/KF5CCN

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:

From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:45 AM

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  1 11:50:50 2010
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
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Sounds kind of like a resistor blew up, but?that's a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess). Is there a resistor in series with a supply lead or in a cathode that might be cracked?

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com>
To: kf5ccn at arrl.net; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 9:48:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.? The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 07:58
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

I have had a DX-60 for a couple of weeks now. I have done repairs and mods on it and it works great.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
?
Brian/KF5CCN

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:

From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:45 AM

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 11:54:13 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:54:13 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
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References: <803514.76106.qm@smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-BXzBCY6qbMwlIzxexbixuBBt1C5iHIoHkKJ1@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com> wrote:
> During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.  The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?


Wonder if maybe you were tuning up to a harmonic? Had that happen to
me again recently with an Apache, been years so it caught me off
guard. No idea what the pop was, probably an old cap let go.

~ (the other) Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  1 12:24:47 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
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The first thing you should do with any old gear is replace ALL the electrolytic caps. 
As far as working with high voltage, follow the safety precautions.
Remove ALL jewelery from hands, fingers. Make sure the unit is UNPLUGGED from AC power. Wait for voltage to bleed off. Then discharge the caps by shorting them. Be ready for the possibility of a loud pop and sparks. This is scary at first, but you will get used to it. it is part of working on tube gear with High voltage. ALWAYS work with one hand and never touch the chassis with the other hand. 
Research working with high voltage.
After you get the unit working, and you will. You will need to perform some simple and inexpensive audio mods. That will come later.
There is plenty of great help on this forum. If it were not for the AM Radio group and a couple of special individuals I would not have my DX-60 on the air now.
You will love the rig once it is working.

73
Brian/KF5CCN


--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:54 AM

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com> wrote:
> During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.? The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?


Wonder if maybe you were tuning up to a harmonic? Had that happen to
me again recently with an Apache, been years so it caught me off
guard. No idea what the pop was, probably an old cap let go.

~ (the other) Todd,? KA1KAQ/4
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From n9ysq at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 12:27:07 2010
From: n9ysq at yahoo.com (Todd Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:27:07 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
Message-ID: <134431.30382.qm@smtp103-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

I didnt see any damaged parts, but I will get a flashlight and give it a more thorough inspection if i can tonight. 

-----Original Message-----
From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:50
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>; kf5ccn at arrl.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

Sounds kind of like a resistor blew up, but?that's a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess). Is there a resistor in series with a supply lead or in a cathode that might be cracked?

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com>
To: kf5ccn at arrl.net; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 9:48:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.? The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 07:58
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

I have had a DX-60 for a couple of weeks now. I have done repairs and mods on it and it works great.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
?
Brian/KF5CCN

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:

From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:45 AM

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  1 12:49:11 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
In-Reply-To: <134431.30382.qm@smtp103-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <425934.4693.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Parts may not appear damaged, but 45 year old caps need to be replaced. If they are not bad now, they soon will be. Trust me on this one, and ask around too. Resistor can get out of tolerance over time. 
Do not make the mistake I made - I was using a schematic for a DX-60B, I have a DX-60. There is a difference.

73
Brian/KF5CCN


--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:27 AM

I didnt see any damaged parts, but I will get a flashlight and give it a more thorough inspection if i can tonight. 

-----Original Message-----
From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:50
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>; kf5ccn at arrl.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

Sounds kind of like a resistor blew up, but?that's a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess). Is there a resistor in series with a supply lead or in a cathode that might be cracked?

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com>
To: kf5ccn at arrl.net; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 9:48:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.? The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 07:58
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

I have had a DX-60 for a couple of weeks now. I have done repairs and mods on it and it works great.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
?
Brian/KF5CCN

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:

From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:45 AM

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From n9ysq at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 13:05:10 2010
From: n9ysq at yahoo.com (Todd Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:05:10 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
Message-ID: <462955.42601.qm@smtp112-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Yeah, I saw that when I was looking at manuals. Mine is a B model as well. I have the manual and diagrams for the B model. I will have to look into rr doing the caps. I have recently acquired new caps for my knight T50, but there never seems to be enough time. I have a new in the box TenTec 1340 still awaiting assembly after 6 years. Hahaha! Time flies.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:49
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

Parts may not appear damaged, but 45 year old caps need to be replaced. If they are not bad now, they soon will be. Trust me on this one, and ask around too. Resistor can get out of tolerance over time. 
Do not make the mistake I made - I was using a schematic for a DX-60B, I have a DX-60. There is a difference.

73
Brian/KF5CCN


--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:27 AM

I didnt see any damaged parts, but I will get a flashlight and give it a more thorough inspection if i can tonight. 

-----Original Message-----
From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:50
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>; kf5ccn at arrl.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

Sounds kind of like a resistor blew up, but?that's a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess). Is there a resistor in series with a supply lead or in a cathode that might be cracked?

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Todd Carpenter <n9ysq at yahoo.com>
To: kf5ccn at arrl.net; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 9:48:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

During my initial tune up, the transmitter acted as it it did not want to tune. There was an audible low pop. Then no power. Some one suggested maybe a breaker in the power supply chain, but I dont recognize one.? The ham i got it from "claimed" that it worked. It seemed to, but it wouldnt tune and now no power. I followed tune up proceedure from manual exactly. I was using 80m xtal and antenna. I also have matching vfo. Any Ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 07:58
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?

I have had a DX-60 for a couple of weeks now. I have done repairs and mods on it and it works great.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
?
Brian/KF5CCN

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com> wrote:

From: Dave Mayfield W9WRL <wrl at gwltd.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:45 AM

Todd, my first thoughts after reading your message.

1. If you can find someone in your area that would be great.
2. If not start reading, and ask questions. (This is how I learned)
3. HV is not something you should be afraid of, it is however something 
you need to understand and respect.

Best of luck.

73 Dave W9WRL.com

Todd Carpenter wrote:
> Hey gang are there any AM ops in the Owensboro, KY or Evansville, IN area who could help me trouble shoot my Heath DX 60? I am deathly afraid of High voltage. I want to get it on the air and working well. Thanks. Todd
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From johndtate at post.com  Tue Jun  1 17:49:35 2010
From: johndtate at post.com (johndtate at post.com)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:49:35 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Any AM ops in my area?
In-Reply-To: <218226.49133.qm@web81606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CCCFEB75A2E791-1124-9F9D@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>

Todd, Brian and the others do give some great advice.  Replacing the 
electrolytic capacitors should be a priority if the DX-60 is stock.  
That right there just might solve your issues.  Also, if it is an 
original stock DX-60, the 2-prong power plug will have fuses.  If the 
plug seems It would be prudent to change that out to a 3-prong grounded 
plug with one fuse in line.  I love my DX-60 (which has been updated 
with audio, carrier and ptt mods).  Hope to hear you on the before too 
long.

John KX5JT



From ae6cm at sonic.net  Wed Jun  2 22:43:53 2010
From: ae6cm at sonic.net (Al ae6cm)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:43:53 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Need scan -- article from Jan-Feb 1940 RCA Ham Tips --
	"Cathode Modulation"
Message-ID: <002801cb02c6$9f340dc0$6f01a8c0@TOSH>

Greetings from a lurker --

A long-shot I know, but any help locating the article appreciated....

Tnx,

Al

From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  3 12:36:57 2010
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Variac'n the caps
Message-ID: <883582.24757.qm@web53207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Like most of you, after initial ohm checks, I always put something old but new to me on the variac and bring it up slowly.  I started to heat up an old Swan 117C PS the other day and really saw what the variac treatment was doing to the caps.  The Swan 800 volt B+, has 2 dual section caps, with both sections connected together, and the two caps in series, with a divider string consisting of 2 150K resistors across them.  As I was bringing up the variac, I noticed the voltage across one cap was higher than the other.  I stopped and checked both 150K resistors, they were within 10K of each other.  I then put the Simpson in line with the suspect cap and monitored the current.  Sure enough, it was leaking about 10ma, making the voltage drop lopsided across the equalizer resistors.  I just let it cook and watched the leakage, slowly it went down to about .2ma.  Raised the variac and watched it again, did that for quite a while.  When I was done, the only
 difference in voltage across the equalizers was due to their 10K difference.  There was no load on the HV section while I was doing this.  I rechecked it the next day to make sure all was healed, and it was.

So if you are patient, and lucky, you can bring those old caps back to life before just whole sale changing them out.  Of course I wasn't so lucky with the 4 section cap in the Swan 350.  2 sections are completely shot.  But, you may be aware of Hayseed electronics. He is making multisection caps, and will have this one I need for the Swan soon.  He is coming out with Drake caps with the copper twist locks so you can solder it down just like Drake did.  He is already providing cap kits for several older rigs and receivers.

Charlie W4MEC in NC


      

From pmcknney at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun  3 16:26:12 2010
From: pmcknney at bellsouth.net (Pat & Rich McKinney)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:26:12 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA BTA 500MX
Message-ID: <87AACADC48DE459AB7A1894EE3FCBF6B@pmcknneyPC>

DE WB4VFN RICH
I'm about to get an RCA BTA 500MX  that once was the voice of Renfro Valley Ky.  I have been helping a friend that has it now and is about to give it to me.  We have been working thru many problems in the past months.  I was wondering if anyone has completed converting one to 160 meters and if so were you able to use the factory output network.  Hope to get the old thing working again and any help appreciated.  I am using on AM now a BC 669B that I had fun restoring and now getting good reports on the air.  73 Rich

From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun  3 17:15:35 2010
From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (LEE BAHR)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:15:35 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA BTA 500MX
In-Reply-To: <87AACADC48DE459AB7A1894EE3FCBF6B@pmcknneyPC>
References: <87AACADC48DE459AB7A1894EE3FCBF6B@pmcknneyPC>
Message-ID: <9B806A8FA80B4D7F9E76C0503C9EC326@LeePC>

I would think you would want to make C1 and C2 variable.  However, use the 
old inductor tapped down a bit for slightly lower inductance.

For my BTA 1R2,  I am in the process of installing two vacuum variables for 
these caps.  They will come out the top and then rotate 90 degrees with 90 
degree shaft couplers.

Lee, w0vt



Subject: [AMRadio] RCA BTA 500MX


> DE WB4VFN RICH
> I'm about to get an RCA BTA 500MX  that once was the voice of Renfro 
> Valley Ky.  I have been helping a friend that has it now and is about to 
> give it to me.  We have been working thru many problems in the past 
> months.  I was wondering if anyone has completed converting one to 160 
> meters and if so were you able to use the factory output network.  Hope to 
> get the old thing working again and any help appreciated.  I am using on 
> AM now a BC 669B that I had fun restoring and now getting good reports on 
> the air.  73 Rich
> 


From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sun Jun  6 21:37:59 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:37:59 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] HAMCOM 2010 AM FORUM
Message-ID: <004401cb05e2$10248e10$306daa30$@net>

 

Hi All.For all of you attending HAMCOM next weekend the 11th and 12th there
will be an AM FORUM get together on Saturday at 11AM. Check out the HAMCOM
SITE at www.hamcom.org and check the seminar schedule and rooms. We have two
rooms this year lets fill them. We are doing a group photo and it will be
sent to ER. I am sure they will publish it. Let's get the group on the map.
Please come with some ideas on what we can do as a group. Chapter 207 AM
QCWA is down the tube due to non participation so let's get going with
something else.. Please forward this to anyone you think would be interested
in AM and AM operation. The TEXAS AM Group is kind of split up between 3.880
and 3.890. 3.850 has more or less the southern states now and not used by
the TEXAS, AR,OK,LA group. 3.875 has become the west coast group.. Come on
down to some good Texas hospitality. Fred W5HTR has a lunch planned at a
great TEX MEX restaurant and will hand out flyers at the forum.

 

Very Best 73's

Bob Peters

W1PE

 

ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER

 

Money is only temporary, Radio is forever

>From The Old Dog

 

 


From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun  9 11:03:21 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 plate modulation?
Message-ID: <273377.56330.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have any info for a plate modulation mod for the Heathkit DX-60

Thanks.
Brian
KF5CCN


From jtml at losalamos.com  Wed Jun  9 12:27:51 2010
From: jtml at losalamos.com (John Lyles)
Date: Wed,  9 Jun 2010 10:27:51 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] DX-60 plate modulator
Message-ID: <8b82052a15e5f001acb6a839a16ed244@losalamos.com>

I put together a kit with schematic, based around a little 807 modulator I have, for a friend. He never followed up, so its sitting there, and i don't own a DX60. I'd be happy to share schematic with you, or better yet, sell you the kit and you do the work hooking it up. It has a Stancor A3892 polypedance output transformer, a UTC S2 driver transformer, and three 12AU7s, one is mike preamp, one is driver and one is used as cathode follower drivers for the 807 grids. Its a nice compact assembly. 

73
John 
K5PRO
New Mexico

> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 plate modulation?
> To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> Does anyone have any info for a plate modulation mod for the Heathkit DX-60
> 
> Thanks.
> Brian
> KF5CCN


From ka4rfa at comporium.net  Wed Jun  9 12:24:40 2010
From: ka4rfa at comporium.net (KA4RFA)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:24:40 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 plate modulation?
References: <273377.56330.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6F179FFAE70846A394D9471899C942EE@jimoffice>

Just got June issue of Electric Radio

page 29 has article by AB7YD

Jim
KA4RFA


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To: <AMRadio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 plate modulation?


> Does anyone have any info for a plate modulation mod for the Heathkit 
> DX-60
>
> Thanks.
> Brian
> KF5CCN
>
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From ad5hr1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 10 08:41:10 2010
From: ad5hr1 at yahoo.com (jon baker)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] DX-60 plate modulator
In-Reply-To: <8b82052a15e5f001acb6a839a16ed244@losalamos.com>
Message-ID: <431703.90204.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

     John,
   How much for the kit?
   Sounds perfect for a project of mine.
   Pse e-mail, good on QRZ.com.
     AD5HR, Jon

--- On Wed, 6/9/10, John Lyles <jtml at losalamos.com> wrote:

> From: John Lyles <jtml at losalamos.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] DX-60 plate modulator
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net, bzwiener at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:27 AM
> I put together a kit with schematic,
> based around a little 807 modulator I have, for a friend. He
> never followed up, so its sitting there, and i don't own a
> DX60. I'd be happy to share schematic with you, or better
> yet, sell you the kit and you do the work hooking it up. It
> has a Stancor A3892 polypedance output transformer, a UTC S2
> driver transformer, and three 12AU7s, one is mike preamp,
> one is driver and one is used as cathode follower drivers
> for the 807 grids. Its a nice compact assembly. 
> 
> 73
> John 
> K5PRO
> New Mexico
> 
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 plate modulation?
> > To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> > Does anyone have any info for a plate modulation mod
> for the Heathkit DX-60
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > Brian
> > KF5CCN
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From k3hw at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 11 17:34:15 2010
From: k3hw at yahoo.com (Howard Weinstein)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
Message-ID: <932545.44427.qm@web112008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Gang,

Looking for a MURCH UT-2000A. Please contact me directly k3hw at yahoo.com

I am good on QRZ.com

Tnx es 72/73 de Howie K3HW



      

From w4ron at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jun 12 12:35:15 2010
From: w4ron at carolina.rr.com (w4ron at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:35:15 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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> 
> Looking for a MURCH UT-2000A. Please contact me directly k3hw at yahoo.com
> Tnx es 72/73 de Howie K3HW


I hope you find one, I know I love mine, it works GREAT.

73, Ron w4ron

From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 14:55:42 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:55:42 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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I've got one, and I wouldn't give you a nickel for them!  They are NOT a 
PI network for matching.  They are a T network!  The input goes into the 
variable cap on the left, the inductor takes the end of that cap and 
works its inductance to ground, and then the end of the first cap that 
is tied to the inductor is tied to the second cap which then goes out to 
the antenna.

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/12/2010 12:35 PM, w4ron at carolina.rr.com wrote:
>> Looking for a MURCH UT-2000A. Please contact me directly k3hw at yahoo.com
>> Tnx es 72/73 de Howie K3HW
>>      
>
> I hope you find one, I know I love mine, it works GREAT.
>
> 73, Ron w4ron


From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 15:03:14 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:03:14 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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then re-wire it.

Rob
K5UJ

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net> wrote:
> I've got one, and I wouldn't give you a nickel for them! ?They are NOT a
> PI network for matching. ?They are a T network! ?The input goes into the
> variable cap on the left, the inductor takes the end of that cap and
> works its inductance to ground, and then the end of the first cap that
> is tied to the inductor is tied to the second cap which then goes out to
> the antenna.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 6/12/2010 12:35 PM, w4ron at carolina.rr.com wrote:
>>> Looking for a MURCH UT-2000A. Please contact me directly k3hw at yahoo.com
>>> Tnx es 72/73 de Howie K3HW
>>>
>>
>> I hope you find one, I know I love mine, it works GREAT.
>>
>> 73, Ron w4ron
>
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From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 15:49:12 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:49:12 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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Rob - If "it" had decent stand-off insulators, I would!

They used acrylic in a couple of places, but no ceramic or decent 
insulators anywhere!

I'd have to gut it, install ceramic stand-offs, "hope" everything clears 
the cabinet and the top cover, then see if it WILL work right.

There is going to be NO open critters here.  My not quite 7 yr old 
granddaughter is going to be living here in just a little bit.

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/12/2010 3:03 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
> then re-wire it.
>
> Rob
> K5UJ


From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 15:50:14 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:50:14 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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I'd offer it to Howie, but it is pretty well scratched up on the outside.

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/12/2010 3:03 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
> then re-wire it.
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, rbethman<rbethman at comcast.net>  wrote:
>    
>> I've got one, and I wouldn't give you a nickel for them!  They are NOT a
>> PI network for matching.  They are a T network!  The input goes into the
>> variable cap on the left, the inductor takes the end of that cap and
>> works its inductance to ground, and then the end of the first cap that
>> is tied to the inductor is tied to the second cap which then goes out to
>> the antenna.
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>> On 6/12/2010 12:35 PM, w4ron at carolina.rr.com wrote:
>>      
>>>> Looking for a MURCH UT-2000A. Please contact me directly k3hw at yahoo.com
>>>> Tnx es 72/73 de Howie K3HW
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I hope you find one, I know I love mine, it works GREAT.
>>>
>>> 73, Ron w4ron
>>>        
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From w9ac at arrl.net  Sat Jun 12 16:33:35 2010
From: w9ac at arrl.net (Paul Christensen)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:33:35 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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> then re-wire it.

I sure would.  To a reversible "L" for use with coax lines -- or a balanced 
version of the L for open lines.

With the classic C-L-C "T" design, multiple panel control settings can 
create an illusion of a low-loss transformation (unless output C is always 
maximized for the given load).  The T is capable of reasonably low loss when 
the L and C components have a Q > 200 and the output C has > 3000-5000 pF of 
maximum capacitance where the connection point to the line is under 25-ohms.

Myself, I cannot imagine using common wire antennas where the feedline Z at 
any point on the transmission line is less than 50-ohms.  That almost always 
indicates an electrically short and inefficient antenna unless extraordinary 
measures are taken at the tuner and antenna to minimize system loss.  Most 
off-the-shelf T tuners suffer great losses with low operating Z.  Unless its 
for mobile use, I really do not want to use antennas that are much less than 
a physical 1/2-wave at the lowest operating frequency.

Paul, W9AC 


From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 17:56:08 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:56:08 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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Everybody wants to re-wire "it".

Try this link to my site to see the schemetic of this "thing".

<http://home.comcast.net/~rbethman/UT2000A.jpg>

Then explain "how" one *might* re-wire it - AND - put in place adequate 
insulation!

(Inside the same cabinet, I might add!)

Bob - N0DGN

From ranickel at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 18:12:18 2010
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:12:18 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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The Murch UT-2000A is a commercial version of the classic "Ultimate 
Transmatch" designed by Lew McCoy and featured in the July 1970 issue of 
QST and numerous ARRL handbooks.    It's called "ultimate" because it is 
able to match coaxial-fed antennas, end-fed wires, and with the addition 
of a 4:1 balun, balanced feeders.   The manual is on BAMA and I can send 
you a copy of the QST article if you need it.

Add a good SWR/power meter and once you learn how to tune it,  the Murch 
will match most anything you can hook to it, 160-10 meters, up to a KW.

73, Bob W9RAN

From rbethman at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 18:22:36 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:22:36 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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I don't care if Marconi himself designed it.

It will NOT tune a BC-610 to ANY antenna!

Even after setting the BC-610 to the 400W ME-165G 50 ohm dummy load 
first.  It would melt the final before it managed to "match" anything.  
250THs don't grow on trees!

I have the manual.  I have checked it against the schematic in the manual.

I'd take one of the Heath tuners, the high power ones, ANY day over the 
Murch!

I don't know how long others have been at this, but that has been my 
experience since 1980!  There is equipment, then there is purported 
"ultimate" that is nothing but junk.

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/12/2010 6:12 PM, Robert Nickels wrote:
> The Murch UT-2000A is a commercial version of the classic "Ultimate
> Transmatch" designed by Lew McCoy and featured in the July 1970 issue of
> QST and numerous ARRL handbooks.    It's called "ultimate" because it is
> able to match coaxial-fed antennas, end-fed wires, and with the addition
> of a 4:1 balun, balanced feeders.   The manual is on BAMA and I can send
> you a copy of the QST article if you need it.
>
> Add a good SWR/power meter and once you learn how to tune it,  the Murch
> will match most anything you can hook to it, 160-10 meters, up to a KW.
>
> 73, Bob W9RAN


From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 19:38:54 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:38:54 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
In-Reply-To: <4C1408AC.4070906@comcast.net>
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Bob,

I don't dump a rig full power into a tuner and start adjusting it.  I
don't own a 610 but I agree that would not be good for the 610.   I
have never owned one of those Murch tuners (I remember the original
QST article though) so it may be true that the Murch won't handle the
full output of the 610 with a lot of modulation and a long
transmission.  Before giving up on it, it sounds to me like what you
are having difficulty with is the time it takes to find a match.  You
need some kind of low power signal source that is enough to get a
reflected power measurement, 10 watts say, or one of those SWR
analyzers.  I'd tune the 610 into a dummy load like you have been
doing and put the tuner and antenna on an analyzer so you have plenty
of time to mess with it.  If it is working okay you should be able to
find a way to transform your feed line to 50 ohms if there is nothing
bizarre about it and your antenna, then you can switch it off the
analyzer and switch the 610 on it and fire away and see if the Murch
arcs or gets hot.  I do that with all my tuners here because the
environmental conditions outside are always changing and affecting the
antennas a bit and they are always interacting with each other and I
have to mess around when I change bands and ground things or let them
float (I can never remember which, it varies with the band and the
antenna) so the analyzer is a must have before I start dumping power
into a matching network.  Sometimes I'll get a slightly false reading
because the analyzer is getting some signal from something else but it
gets me in the ball park and I can put about 10 w. into the tuner to
hit the reflected power null.   Of course none of this is any good for
ops who are running around chasing dx and contesting but it is fine if
you are like me and squat on one frequency for an entire evening hi
hi.

If none of this works, why not sell the Murch to the fellow who is
looking for one and fix yourself up a big L network if you are using
coax feedline.  Get yourself an aluminum box, a few 30 KV doorknobs,
an air variable cap like an amp load cap, roller inductor and a
ceramic switch for the doorknobs.  With a little wiring and testing it
will probably sit there and handle the 610 all day.   I did something
like that but I used banana plugs and jacks and jumpers and left it
open because I don't have kids or pets.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:22 PM, rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net> wrote:
> I don't care if Marconi himself designed it.
>
> It will NOT tune a BC-610 to ANY antenna!
>
> Even after setting the BC-610 to the 400W ME-165G 50 ohm dummy load
> first. ?It would melt the final before it managed to "match" anything.
> 250THs don't grow on trees!
>
> I have the manual. ?I have checked it against the schematic in the manual.
>
> I'd take one of the Heath tuners, the high power ones, ANY day over the
> Murch!
>
> I don't know how long others have been at this, but that has been my
> experience since 1980! ?There is equipment, then there is purported
> "ultimate" that is nothing but junk.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 6/12/2010 6:12 PM, Robert Nickels wrote:
>> The Murch UT-2000A is a commercial version of the classic "Ultimate
>> Transmatch" designed by Lew McCoy and featured in the July 1970 issue of
>> QST and numerous ARRL handbooks. ? ?It's called "ultimate" because it is
>> able to match coaxial-fed antennas, end-fed wires, and with the addition
>> of a 4:1 balun, balanced feeders. ? The manual is on BAMA and I can send
>> you a copy of the QST article if you need it.
>>
>> Add a good SWR/power meter and once you learn how to tune it, ?the Murch
>> will match most anything you can hook to it, 160-10 meters, up to a KW.
>>
>> 73, Bob W9RAN
>
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From w4bws at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 12 22:04:50 2010
From: w4bws at yahoo.com (Donald Sanders)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:04:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
In-Reply-To: <4C1408AC.4070906@comcast.net>
References: <20100612163515.JPWTY.503208.root@cdptpa-web10-z02>
	<4C140642.1070009@comcast.net> <4C1408AC.4070906@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <990226.42207.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I am not famiiar with the BC 610 output circuit however it may be link coupled and 600 ohm or other high impedence as most of the transmitters in the late 30's and 40's. The Murch is designed to match an antenna to a 50 to 75 ohm load. Therefore you may be exceeding what the Murch is capable of doing.
Don




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To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 5:22:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A

I don't care if Marconi himself designed it.

It will NOT tune a BC-610 to ANY antenna!

Even after setting the BC-610 to the 400W ME-165G 50 ohm dummy load 
first.? It would melt the final before it managed to "match" anything.? 
250THs don't grow on trees!

I have the manual.? I have checked it against the schematic in the manual.

I'd take one of the Heath tuners, the high power ones, ANY day over the 
Murch!

I don't know how long others have been at this, but that has been my 
experience since 1980!? There is equipment, then there is purported 
"ultimate" that is nothing but junk.

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/12/2010 6:12 PM, Robert Nickels wrote:
> The Murch UT-2000A is a commercial version of the classic "Ultimate
> Transmatch" designed by Lew McCoy and featured in the July 1970 issue of
> QST and numerous ARRL handbooks.? ? It's called "ultimate" because it is
> able to match coaxial-fed antennas, end-fed wires, and with the addition
> of a 4:1 balun, balanced feeders.? The manual is on BAMA and I can send
> you a copy of the QST article if you need it.
>
> Add a good SWR/power meter and once you learn how to tune it,? the Murch
> will match most anything you can hook to it, 160-10 meters, up to a KW.
>
> 73, Bob W9RAN

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From w9nto at toast.net  Sat Jun 12 22:43:10 2010
From: w9nto at toast.net (david oneill)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:43:10 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
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if you hate it that bad take it out back and shoot it .

On 6/12/10, Donald Sanders <w4bws at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am not famiiar with the BC 610 output circuit however it may be link
> coupled and 600 ohm or other high impedence as most of the transmitters in
> the late 30's and 40's. The Murch is designed to match an antenna to a 50 to
> 75 ohm load. Therefore you may be exceeding what the Murch is capable of
> doing.
> Don
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 5:22:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
>
> I don't care if Marconi himself designed it.
>
> It will NOT tune a BC-610 to ANY antenna!
>
> Even after setting the BC-610 to the 400W ME-165G 50 ohm dummy load
> first.? It would melt the final before it managed to "match" anything.
> 250THs don't grow on trees!
>
> I have the manual.? I have checked it against the schematic in the manual.
>
> I'd take one of the Heath tuners, the high power ones, ANY day over the
> Murch!
>
> I don't know how long others have been at this, but that has been my
> experience since 1980!? There is equipment, then there is purported
> "ultimate" that is nothing but junk.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 6/12/2010 6:12 PM, Robert Nickels wrote:
>> The Murch UT-2000A is a commercial version of the classic "Ultimate
>> Transmatch" designed by Lew McCoy and featured in the July 1970 issue of
>> QST and numerous ARRL handbooks.? ? It's called "ultimate" because it is
>> able to match coaxial-fed antennas, end-fed wires, and with the addition
>> of a 4:1 balun, balanced feeders.? The manual is on BAMA and I can send
>> you a copy of the QST article if you need it.
>>
>> Add a good SWR/power meter and once you learn how to tune it,? the Murch
>> will match most anything you can hook to it, 160-10 meters, up to a KW.
>>
>> 73, Bob W9RAN
>
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>

From k5wlf at rebelwolf.com  Sat Jun 12 22:50:00 2010
From: k5wlf at rebelwolf.com (Larry D. Barr (K5WLF))
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:50:00 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_KvsQLJaurlhRH6zzUEX0jBjGuOTsow8t0UAn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100612163515.JPWTY.503208.root@cdptpa-web10-z02>	<4C140642.1070009@comcast.net>
	<4C1408AC.4070906@comcast.net>	<990226.42207.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTim_KvsQLJaurlhRH6zzUEX0jBjGuOTsow8t0UAn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C144758.4080005@rebelwolf.com>

Or sell it to the OP who wants one...

73,
ldb
K5WLF


On 06/12/2010 09:43 PM, david oneill wrote:
> if you hate it that bad take it out back and shoot it .
>
> On 6/12/10, Donald Sanders<w4bws at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> I am not famiiar with the BC 610 output circuit however it may be link
>> coupled and 600 ohm or other high impedence as most of the transmitters in
>> the late 30's and 40's. The Murch is designed to match an antenna to a 50 to
>> 75 ohm load. Therefore you may be exceeding what the Murch is capable of
>> doing.
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: rbethman<rbethman at comcast.net>
>> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 5:22:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WTB - MURCH UT-2000A
>>
>> I don't care if Marconi himself designed it.
>>
>> It will NOT tune a BC-610 to ANY antenna!
>>
>> Even after setting the BC-610 to the 400W ME-165G 50 ohm dummy load
>> first.  It would melt the final before it managed to "match" anything.
>> 250THs don't grow on trees!
>>
>> I have the manual.  I have checked it against the schematic in the manual.
>>
>> I'd take one of the Heath tuners, the high power ones, ANY day over the
>> Murch!
>>
>> I don't know how long others have been at this, but that has been my
>> experience since 1980!  There is equipment, then there is purported
>> "ultimate" that is nothing but junk.
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>> On 6/12/2010 6:12 PM, Robert Nickels wrote:
>>> The Murch UT-2000A is a commercial version of the classic "Ultimate
>>> Transmatch" designed by Lew McCoy and featured in the July 1970 issue of
>>> QST and numerous ARRL handbooks.    It's called "ultimate" because it is
>>> able to match coaxial-fed antennas, end-fed wires, and with the addition
>>> of a 4:1 balun, balanced feeders.  The manual is on BAMA and I can send
>>> you a copy of the QST article if you need it.
>>>
>>> Add a good SWR/power meter and once you learn how to tune it,  the Murch
>>> will match most anything you can hook to it, 160-10 meters, up to a KW.
>>>
>>> 73, Bob W9RAN
>>
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sun Jun 13 15:36:01 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:36:01 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA AR-77
Message-ID: <000001cb0b2f$a7dcb960$f7962c20$@net>

 

Does anyone out there have an operations manual or a diagram of the 2
barrier strips. Mine are un marked and need to know speaker and ant and PTT 

Terminals. I have the schematic but it does not show the terminals on it
from what I see ..THANKS

 

Very Best 73's

Bob Peters

W1PE

 

ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER

 

Money is only temporary, Radio is forever

>From The Old Dog

 

 


From knjhanlon at msn.com  Sun Jun 13 20:23:48 2010
From: knjhanlon at msn.com (JAMES HANLON)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:23:48 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] (no subject)
Message-ID: <SNT106-W35E18E6EF66211250EA6B7A0DC0@phx.gbl>

http://great.crojricadl.com/?cid=ONIPAY
 		 	   		  

From wb8bem at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 13:08:17 2010
From: wb8bem at yahoo.com (Gary)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:08:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <64686D4CB81F42C7AA934994EBBA6B76@ESHOP1>
Message-ID: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is this list still active???
This is the last 
I've received???
?
Gary
Now K4XK and back home in Alabama

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, James M. Walker <chejmw at buffalo.edu> wrote:



?
?



      

From w5jo at brightok.net  Tue Jun 15 13:22:09 2010
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:22:09 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B9B54C2FDF3E42B39065D381EECB7D2A@JimPC>

Yes Gary, it is still active.  Lack of much activity must be because of 
the summer doldrums.  Long days, short nights and all.

73

Jim/W5JO
Moderator


----- Original Message ----- 



> Is this list still active???
> This is the last
> I've received???
>
> Gary
> Now K4XK and back home in Alabama
>


From sbjohnston at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 13:23:29 2010
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:23:29 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDAC69B475E7D-2FA4-87D@Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com>

The most recent activity I've noticed was a fellow asking if anyone 
knew of a Murch universal transmatch available.  This was followed by a 
torrent of folks criticizing and counter-criticizing the design of that 
tuner in a negative tone.  I lost track if anyone actually answered the 
original question or not.


Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary <wb8bem at yahoo.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 12:08 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???


Is this list still active???
This is the last
I've received???
?
Gary
Now K4XK and back home in Alabama

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, James M. Walker <chejmw at buffalo.edu> wrote:



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From rbethman at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 13:23:45 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:23:45 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C17B721.3070100@comcast.net>

Yep!  There just hasn't been any traffic!

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/15/2010 1:08 PM, Gary wrote:
> Is this list still active???
> This is the last
> I've received???
>   
> Gary
> Now K4XK and back home in Alabama
>
> --- On Sat, 5/29/10, James M. Walker<chejmw at buffalo.edu>  wrote:


From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 13:30:03 2010
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:30:03 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <64686D4CB81F42C7AA934994EBBA6B76@ESHOP1>
	<243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikhT9lrtPdUayAz2QAfNe-pzwv3Zvy6XS8JmbT4@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Gary <wb8bem at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is this list still active???
> This is the last
> I've received???
>
> Gary
> Now K4XK and back home in Alabama

Still here, Gary - and welcome back! Though with the current temps,
you might wish you'd stayed in Shinbone. Pushing 100 here in NC the
last few days.

As Jim says, things really quiet down on here once better wx is here
to stay. Yard work, home repairs, vacations, etc still seem to take
priority over radio. Sounds crazy, doesn't it?  (o:

Look forward to working you again soon, though with the current
waterfall of static, it might be next fall!

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 13:27:19 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (kj4hyd)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:27:19 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <B9B54C2FDF3E42B39065D381EECB7D2A@JimPC>
References: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<B9B54C2FDF3E42B39065D381EECB7D2A@JimPC>
Message-ID: <4C17B7F7.3050003@gmail.com>

On 6/15/2010 1:22 PM, Jim Wilhite wrote:
> Lack of much activity must be because of the summer doldrums.  Long days, short nights and all.
>    

Whatcha mean? 6 Meter AM has been CRANKING!

-- 
73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn


From n9ysq at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 13:36:00 2010
From: n9ysq at yahoo.com (Todd Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:36:00 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
Message-ID: <764032.9149.qm@smtp111-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

I am still around. Lots of summer activity to keep me occupied and off air though. Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary <wb8bem at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:08
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???

Is this list still active???
This is the last 
I've received???
?
Gary
Now K4XK and back home in Alabama

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, James M. Walker <chejmw at buffalo.edu> wrote:



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From manualman at juno.com  Tue Jun 15 13:46:57 2010
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:46:57 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
Message-ID: <20100615.104759.1009.173803@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>

Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg 66'er on AM and
Ameco VFO621 as a beat oscillator to receive the other station on SSB. He
said I had some carrier on my signal. Told him I was on AM so he then
flipped his PRO II(III?) to AM and we a brief exchange on that mode.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:27:19 -0400 kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com> writes:
> On 6/15/2010 1:22 PM, Jim Wilhite wrote:
> > Lack of much activity must be because of the summer doldrums.  
> Long days, short nights and all.
> >    
> 
> Whatcha mean? 6 Meter AM has been CRANKING!
> 
> -- 
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ

From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 14:39:03 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (kj4hyd)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:39:03 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <20100615.104759.1009.173803@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100615.104759.1009.173803@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>

On 6/15/2010 1:46 PM, manualman at juno.com wrote:
> Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg 66'er on AM

Great Stuff! I am at my "Day Job" at a Medium Wave Broadcast Station 
now, but will get back on 6 AM when I get out of here.

I use a Heathkit HW-29A Sixer...AKA a "Benton Harbor Lunchbox" With a 
Dipole 50 Feet in the air.

-- 
73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn


From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 15 14:43:05 2010
From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (LEE BAHR)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:43:05 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA-BA-6A
In-Reply-To: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
References: <20100615.104759.1009.173803@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
	<4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2EB64DE30DA4CB188B4A0C3D43CFF2B@LeePC>

Bye chance does anyone on here have an RCA BA-6A Broadcast Band Audio 
Limiter they would part with at a reasonable cost?  I am restoring a RCA 
BTA-1R2 1 KW AM Broadcast Station transmitter and would like to drive the 
transmitter with a BA-6A.

73,

Lee, w0vt 


From k3hw at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 14:46:41 2010
From: k3hw at yahoo.com (Howard Weinstein)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:46:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The Heath Sixer was a great little radio - I worked up and down the East Coast with that rig and a couple of crystals using a Hilltopper 3 element 6 Meter Beam from Melrose Park just outside of Philadelphia PA

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:39 PM
> On 6/15/2010 1:46 PM, manualman at juno.com
> wrote:
> > Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg
> 66'er on AM
> 
> Great Stuff! I am at my "Day Job" at a Medium Wave
> Broadcast Station 
> now, but will get back on 6 AM when I get out of here.
> 
> I use a Heathkit HW-29A Sixer...AKA a "Benton Harbor
> Lunchbox" With a 
> Dipole 50 Feet in the air.
> 
> -- 
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ
> 
> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a
> mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency
> response than FM. - Leonard Kahn
> 



      

From ars.w5ami at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 14:51:18 2010
From: ars.w5ami at gmail.com (W5AMI)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:51:18 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
	<425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimkRS90AZGszEKmEQhdZqOG8CgdQKxhVLd6Hftj@mail.gmail.com>

This list has gone quiet this time of year since it started over 10 years
ago!  It's just the season.  Come about October, and it will get lively as
always.

73
Brian / w5ami


-- 
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From kj4hyd at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 14:54:29 2010
From: kj4hyd at gmail.com (kj4hyd)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:54:29 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA-BA-6A
In-Reply-To: <F2EB64DE30DA4CB188B4A0C3D43CFF2B@LeePC>
References: <20100615.104759.1009.173803@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>	<4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
	<F2EB64DE30DA4CB188B4A0C3D43CFF2B@LeePC>
Message-ID: <4C17CC65.1000301@gmail.com>

On 6/15/2010 2:43 PM, LEE BAHR wrote:
> I am restoring a RCA BTA-1R2 1 KW AM Broadcast Station transmitter

KEWL! I have a BTA-1R1 I restored. If you need the books on it, I have 
em as a DJVU file.

-- 
73,
Kevin Raper
KJ4HYD
CE WCKI WQIZ

There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. - Leonard Kahn


From jayw5jay at cox.net  Tue Jun 15 15:26:33 2010
From: jayw5jay at cox.net (Jay Bromley)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:26:33 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA-BA-6A
In-Reply-To: <F2EB64DE30DA4CB188B4A0C3D43CFF2B@LeePC>
References: <20100615.104759.1009.173803@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com><4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
	<F2EB64DE30DA4CB188B4A0C3D43CFF2B@LeePC>
Message-ID: <11E651AAA9414819AB0AB8DBD247E4E3@JayPC>

Hey Lee,
I've been meaning to email you and Darrel.  I can't thank you guys enough 
for coming up!  I know it was a big let down for you guys, but I sure did 
enjoy talking with you both!  Also seeing Darrel's receiver was quite a 
deal.  I just wish more could have seen it and told many about it.  Sadly 
the guys that would have loved to seen it, were not around when you guys 
were!

73 de jay..

--------------------------------------------------
From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:43 PM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] RCA-BA-6A

> Bye chance does anyone on here have an RCA BA-6A Broadcast Band Audio
> Limiter they would part with at a reasonable cost?  I am restoring a RCA
> BTA-1R2 1 KW AM Broadcast Station transmitter and would like to drive the
> transmitter with a BA-6A.
>
> 73,
>
> Lee, w0vt
>
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From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Tue Jun 15 15:07:57 2010
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:07:57 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
	<425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <498D865D7B84439DA83F33287B64C511@LaMarcheEnterpr>


What is the calling frequency for 6 meter AM?  My K3 will do AM and it
sounds real good.  I'll start monitoring on the second receiver.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche
 
LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
Phil at LaMarcheEnterprises.com
www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 
 
727-944-3226
727-937-8834 Fax
727-510-5038 Cell 
 
www.w9dvm.com
 
K3 #1605
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Weinstein
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service; kj4hyd at gmail.com;
manualman at juno.com
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???

The Heath Sixer was a great little radio - I worked up and down the East
Coast with that rig and a couple of crystals using a Hilltopper 3 element 6
Meter Beam from Melrose Park just outside of Philadelphia PA

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:39 PM
> On 6/15/2010 1:46 PM, manualman at juno.com
> wrote:
> > Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg
> 66'er on AM
> 
> Great Stuff! I am at my "Day Job" at a Medium Wave Broadcast Station 
> now, but will get back on 6 AM when I get out of here.
> 
> I use a Heathkit HW-29A Sixer...AKA a "Benton Harbor Lunchbox" With a 
> Dipole 50 Feet in the air.
> 
> --
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ
> 
> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a 
> mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. 
> - Leonard Kahn
> 



      
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From wb4aeg at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 16:13:03 2010
From: wb4aeg at yahoo.com (Hal Dale)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <498D865D7B84439DA83F33287B64C511@LaMarcheEnterpr>
References: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>
	<425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<498D865D7B84439DA83F33287B64C511@LaMarcheEnterpr>
Message-ID: <116000.2380.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

50.400
?








CW.....When all else fails !!











________________________________
From: Phil LaMarche <plamarc1 at verizon.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 3:07:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???


What is the calling frequency for 6 meter AM?? My K3 will do AM and it
sounds real good.? I'll start monitoring on the second receiver.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche

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-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Weinstein
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service; kj4hyd at gmail.com;
manualman at juno.com
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???

The Heath Sixer was a great little radio - I worked up and down the East
Coast with that rig and a couple of crystals using a Hilltopper 3 element 6
Meter Beam from Melrose Park just outside of Philadelphia PA

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:39 PM
> On 6/15/2010 1:46 PM, manualman at juno.com
> wrote:
> > Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg
> 66'er on AM
> 
> Great Stuff! I am at my "Day Job" at a Medium Wave Broadcast Station 
> now, but will get back on 6 AM when I get out of here.
> 
> I use a Heathkit HW-29A Sixer...AKA a "Benton Harbor Lunchbox" With a 
> Dipole 50 Feet in the air.
> 
> --
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ
> 
> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a 
> mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. 
> - Leonard Kahn
> 



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From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Tue Jun 15 16:24:20 2010
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:24:20 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
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Thank you! 


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hal Dale
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:13 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???

50.400
?








CW.....When all else fails !!











________________________________
From: Phil LaMarche <plamarc1 at verizon.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 3:07:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???


What is the calling frequency for 6 meter AM?? My K3 will do AM and it
sounds real good.? I'll start monitoring on the second receiver.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche

LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
Phil at LaMarcheEnterprises.com
www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 

727-944-3226
727-937-8834 Fax
727-510-5038 Cell 

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-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Weinstein
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service; kj4hyd at gmail.com;
manualman at juno.com
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???

The Heath Sixer was a great little radio - I worked up and down the East
Coast with that rig and a couple of crystals using a Hilltopper 3 element 6
Meter Beam from Melrose Park just outside of Philadelphia PA

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:39 PM
> On 6/15/2010 1:46 PM, manualman at juno.com
> wrote:
> > Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg
> 66'er on AM
> 
> Great Stuff! I am at my "Day Job" at a Medium Wave Broadcast Station 
> now, but will get back on 6 AM when I get out of here.
> 
> I use a Heathkit HW-29A Sixer...AKA a "Benton Harbor Lunchbox" With a 
> Dipole 50 Feet in the air.
> 
> --
> 73,
> Kevin Raper
> KJ4HYD
> CE WCKI WQIZ
> 
> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a 
> mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM.
> - Leonard Kahn
> 



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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Tue Jun 15 16:38:34 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:38:34 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] FREE if you have a need
Message-ID: <012a01cb0cca$b98a0b30$2c9e2190$@net>

 

I have a NOS GONSET meter..3" X 2.75" with three scales 10 to 250, 0 to
100,0 to 50  part # 112-051.. You can have it will even pay shipping.Do not
want to see it get thrown away or damaged.

 

Very Best 73's

Bob Peters

W1PE

 

ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER

 

Money is only temporary, Radio is forever

>From The Old Dog

 

 


From w4bws at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 17:30:33 2010
From: w4bws at yahoo.com (Donald Sanders)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <243188.66021.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Thats a good place to be back home. 
I miss Dothan some days.
Don W4BWS



________________________________
From: Gary <wb8bem at yahoo.com>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 12:08:17 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???

Is this list still active???
This is the last 
I've received???
?
Gary
Now K4XK and back home in Alabama

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, James M. Walker <chejmw at buffalo.edu> wrote:



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From manualman at juno.com  Tue Jun 15 17:58:34 2010
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:58:34 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
Message-ID: <20100615.145922.1097.174842@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

But don't limit yourself to that frequency. Two or three guys, who can't
hear each other all calling CQ on the same frequency, doesn't work. I
generally call CQ on AM around 50.39 or 50.395, and end it with, "tuning
around for a call"(for those that might be rock bound). Lots of empty
space above 50.3 for AM (actually lots of space above 50.2 when the band
isn't open).

Pete, wa2cwa


On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Hal Dale <wb4aeg at yahoo.com>
writes:
> 50.400

From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 20:42:51 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:42:51 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <20100615.145922.1097.174842@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100615.145922.1097.174842@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiltdcpE0R6whFDLIX1fLGAL3tCWi1adMXce8FWo@mail.gmail.com>

if six is open what is ten like?  probably more guys have something to
put on 10 m than on six.
I think I can maybe get on 10 with 30 watts, but only with a dipole up 40 feet.


Rob
K5UJ

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM,  <manualman at juno.com> wrote:
> But don't limit yourself to that frequency. Two or three guys, who can't
> hear each other all calling CQ on the same frequency, doesn't work. I
> generally call CQ on AM around 50.39 or 50.395, and end it with, "tuning
> around for a call"(for those that might be rock bound). Lots of empty
> space above 50.3 for AM (actually lots of space above 50.2 when the band
> isn't open).
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Hal Dale <wb4aeg at yahoo.com>
> writes:
>> 50.400
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From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Tue Jun 15 20:39:26 2010
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:39:26 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Want to Borrow Original Elmac Manuals
Message-ID: <007601cb0cec$a4be2110$d80b1aa5@KWM380>

Hi All,

Bob W9RAN has agreed to send me his original manuals for the Elmac AF-67 and 
AF-68.

I am looking for someone or someones that have original  manuals for the PMR 
xx and any other Elmac manuals
that I may borrow to scan. I will be happy to pay postage each way and will 
also send the contributor or contributors
a cd with all the manuals on it.

My intention is to get decent scans unlike the DJvue ones currently on BAMA. 
No offense meant to the person that scanned them or to the DJvue format.

I am mainly interested in the matching receivers for the AF-67 and AF-68 and 
power supplies. However if there are other Elmac manuals please let me know.

I will also print a dozen of each and send to Mike N8ECR who runs the 
"Mighty Elmac Net"  so he will have some on hand to give out.

I will also be happy to email copies of the manuals to anyone who wishes to 
add them to their website.

Thanks in advance!
73 Larry WA9VRH


From manualman at juno.com  Tue Jun 15 21:12:57 2010
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:12:57 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
Message-ID: <20100615.181301.965.245547@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>

10 has been open almost as often as 6 meter but not with the same
intensity and coverage. As I type this 9:10 PM EDT, 10 meters is only
open from the East Coast to the Caribbean and 6 meters is only open from
the West Coast to Japan.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:42:51 -0500 Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
writes:
> if six is open what is ten like?  probably more guys have something 
> to
> put on 10 m than on six.
> I think I can maybe get on 10 with 30 watts, but only with a dipole 
> up 40 feet.
> 
> 
> Rob
> K5UJ

From mark.k3msb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 21:12:28 2010
From: mark.k3msb at gmail.com (Mark K3MSB)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:12:28 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiltdcpE0R6whFDLIX1fLGAL3tCWi1adMXce8FWo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100615.145922.1097.174842@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
	<AANLkTiltdcpE0R6whFDLIX1fLGAL3tCWi1adMXce8FWo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiky84WWjw0iJ1wXoi06I8X9Nz9kxamC7xAF_TXn@mail.gmail.com>

If 10M or 6M is open,  30W with a dipole at 40 feet will do fine on either
band.

If the band is not open,  300W and a 5 element yagi will get you nowhere.

Mark K3MSB

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:

> if six is open what is ten like?  probably more guys have something to
> put on 10 m than on six.
> I think I can maybe get on 10 with 30 watts, but only with a dipole up 40
> feet.
>
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>

From wrl at gwltd.com  Tue Jun 15 23:06:29 2010
From: wrl at gwltd.com (Dave Mayfield W9WRL)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:06:29 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <498D865D7B84439DA83F33287B64C511@LaMarcheEnterpr>
References: <4C17C8C7.6000400@gmail.com>	<425893.33640.qm@web112017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<498D865D7B84439DA83F33287B64C511@LaMarcheEnterpr>
Message-ID: <4C183FB5.6020406@gwltd.com>

50.4

Phil LaMarche wrote:
> What is the calling frequency for 6 meter AM?  My K3 will do AM and it
> sounds real good.  I'll start monitoring on the second receiver.
>
> Phil 
>
>
> Philip LaMarche
>  
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>  
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Weinstein
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:47 PM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service; kj4hyd at gmail.com;
> manualman at juno.com
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
>
> The Heath Sixer was a great little radio - I worked up and down the East
> Coast with that rig and a couple of crystals using a Hilltopper 3 element 6
> Meter Beam from Melrose Park just outside of Philadelphia PA
>
> --- On Tue, 6/15/10, kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: kj4hyd <kj4hyd at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:39 PM
>> On 6/15/2010 1:46 PM, manualman at juno.com
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> Just worked a guy in Europe on 6 meters using my Clegg
>>>       
>> 66'er on AM
>>
>> Great Stuff! I am at my "Day Job" at a Medium Wave Broadcast Station 
>> now, but will get back on 6 AM when I get out of here.
>>
>> I use a Heathkit HW-29A Sixer...AKA a "Benton Harbor Lunchbox" With a 
>> Dipole 50 Feet in the air.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Kevin Raper
>> KJ4HYD
>> CE WCKI WQIZ
>>
>> There is no limitation to the fidelity of AM radio. From a 
>> mathematical standpoint, AM does better in frequency response than FM. 
>> - Leonard Kahn
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>       
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From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 16:03:15 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:03:15 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] AM list still active???
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiky84WWjw0iJ1wXoi06I8X9Nz9kxamC7xAF_TXn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100615.145922.1097.174842@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
	<AANLkTiltdcpE0R6whFDLIX1fLGAL3tCWi1adMXce8FWo@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiky84WWjw0iJ1wXoi06I8X9Nz9kxamC7xAF_TXn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPW7vwwrTvXbetgk8EeojmcEkHCPGCOsXlVwL2@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Pete; Thanks Mark; I'll see what  happens.

Rob
K5UJ

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb at gmail.com> wrote:
> If 10M or 6M is open, ?30W with a dipole at 40 feet will do fine on either
> band.
>
> If the band is not open, ?300W and a 5 element yagi will get you nowhere.
>
> Mark K3MSB
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if six is open what is ten like? ?probably more guys have something to
>> put on 10 m than on six.
>> I think I can maybe get on 10 with 30 watts, but only with a dipole up 40
>> feet.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
>>
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From wa5ffk at juno.com  Wed Jun 16 20:09:40 2010
From: wa5ffk at juno.com (Donald R. R Moore)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:09:40 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] DX-100 Manual
Message-ID: <20100616.190941.3328.1.wa5ffk@juno.com>

Does any one have a DX-100 complete manual in digital format that would
be e-mailed
Don W5FFK  w5ffk at sbcglobal.net
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From wa5ffk at juno.com  Wed Jun 16 22:12:03 2010
From: wa5ffk at juno.com (Donald R. R Moore)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:12:03 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Thanks for DX-100 Manual
Message-ID: <20100616.211203.3328.4.wa5ffk@juno.com>

Thanks  so much for the quick response , I now have the complete manual.
Don W5FFK

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From n2ry at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 12:08:10 2010
From: n2ry at yahoo.com (Rich Yost)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Dx-100 meter light question
Message-ID: <296004.95075.qm@web112012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

here's a silly question, my meter light burned out, and for the life of me I can't seem 
to get the bulb out, so before I gorilla it, does the socket just pull out or what ?

I tugged, but I don't want to force it and bust something ...

Whats the trick ? or is it just that old and needs persuasion ?

thanks,

Rich
n2ry



      

From chejmw at buffalo.edu  Thu Jun 17 13:15:04 2010
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:15:04 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Dx-100 meter light question
References: <296004.95075.qm@web112012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9FE6DD5E2B1F40109DC4B6545655DACC@ESHOP1>

YOU NEED A SCREWDRIVER, MOST LIKELY THE PRONGS
HAVE SET IN PLACE. PRY THE THING OUT WITH THAT OR A SMALL POCKET KNIFE.

ON MY METER THE PRONGS THAT GO INTO THE BACK OF THE METER HAD DEVELOPED
SOME CORROSION AROUND THE EXIT FOR THE WIRES AS WELL, JUST POP THE THING 
OUT.
SHOULD BE ALRIGHT.
JIM
WB2FCN/WD2XSH-22


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Yost" <n2ry at yahoo.com>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Dx-100 meter light question


> here's a silly question, my meter light burned out, and for the life of me 
> I can't seem
> to get the bulb out, so before I gorilla it, does the socket just pull out 
> or what ?
>
> I tugged, but I don't want to force it and bust something ...
>
> Whats the trick ? or is it just that old and needs persuasion ?
>
> thanks,
>
> Rich
> n2ry
>
>
>
>
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From k6kwq at msn.com  Thu Jun 17 14:44:38 2010
From: k6kwq at msn.com (RICHARD GEORGE)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:44:38 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
Message-ID: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>

Still working on the Heathkit Twoer project. I need an orignal microphone 
for the old lunch box radios or at least a plug that was on the end of the 
mic. Please reply off list.
K6KWQ Dick
 Amps by "MORE POWER" 


From rwpeters at swbell.net  Thu Jun 17 14:49:24 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:49:24 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
In-Reply-To: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net>

Dick, Are you talking about the screw on button??? Did you need the chassis
conector or the one on the mic??? I have both...I think  I know I have the
mic end but think there is a chassis there as well...

Very Best 73's
Bob Peters
W1PE

ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER

Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
>From The Old Dog



-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:45 PM
To: Old Tube Radios; amlist
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug

Still working on the Heathkit Twoer project. I need an orignal microphone 
for the old lunch box radios or at least a plug that was on the end of the 
mic. Please reply off list.
K6KWQ Dick
 Amps by "MORE POWER" 

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From k6kwq at msn.com  Thu Jun 17 16:32:05 2010
From: k6kwq at msn.com (RICHARD GEORGE)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:32:05 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
In-Reply-To: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>
	<00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net>
References: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>
	<00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net>
Message-ID: <COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>

Yes I need the microphone end.

K6KWQ Dick
 Amps by "MORE POWER"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug


> Dick, Are you talking about the screw on button??? Did you need the 
> chassis
> conector or the one on the mic??? I have both...I think  I know I have the
> mic end but think there is a chassis there as well...
>
> Very Best 73's
> Bob Peters
> W1PE
>
> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
>
> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
> >From The Old Dog
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:45 PM
> To: Old Tube Radios; amlist
> Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
>
> Still working on the Heathkit Twoer project. I need an orignal microphone
> for the old lunch box radios or at least a plug that was on the end of the
> mic. Please reply off list.
> K6KWQ Dick
>  Amps by "MORE POWER"
>
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Thu Jun 17 16:36:43 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:36:43 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
In-Reply-To: <COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>	<00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net>
	<COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701cb0e5c$cc0830a0$641891e0$@net>

Richard, Send me your address and will send you one...I have some used and
some new...No charge to you...
Just be nice to other people when you can...send it off the list to
rwpeters at swbell.net


Bob W1PE

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:32 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug

Yes I need the microphone end.

K6KWQ Dick
 Amps by "MORE POWER"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug


> Dick, Are you talking about the screw on button??? Did you need the 
> chassis
> conector or the one on the mic??? I have both...I think  I know I have the
> mic end but think there is a chassis there as well...
>
> Very Best 73's
> Bob Peters
> W1PE
>
> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
>
> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
> >From The Old Dog
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:45 PM
> To: Old Tube Radios; amlist
> Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
>
> Still working on the Heathkit Twoer project. I need an orignal microphone
> for the old lunch box radios or at least a plug that was on the end of the
> mic. Please reply off list.
> K6KWQ Dick
>  Amps by "MORE POWER"
>
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From ars.w5ami at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 21:10:01 2010
From: ars.w5ami at gmail.com (W5AMI)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:10:01 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Member Count on AMRadio
Message-ID: <AANLkTiliT8IGn8QqHa_MTQ5m5VcUg946-U40FfwbR5Cm@mail.gmail.com>

Just FYI...

I have not mentioned the member count in some time for this list.  We
currently have 485 members.  During the Fall and Winter months the count
goes up significantly.  Some members are very seasonal with the list...

73
Brian / w5ami


-- 
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Email : ars.w5ami at gmail.com

"The better I get to know some people, the more I find myself loving dogs."

From ad5hr1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 21:39:57 2010
From: ad5hr1 at yahoo.com (jon baker)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Member Count on AMRadio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiliT8IGn8QqHa_MTQ5m5VcUg946-U40FfwbR5Cm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205118.42823.qm@web56301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

     Brian,
   This is my FAVORITE of all the lists I subscribe to.
   Fine business on 485 members!
   One trend I've noticed, is newer Hams (KE5, KF5,etc.)
  showing up on A.M., hope this trend keeps up?
   The members of this list are amongst the most generous
  and helpful folk I've come across.
   Thanks and keep up the GREAT work!
     AD5HR, Jon

--- On Thu, 6/17/10, W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Member Count on AMRadio
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:10 PM
> Just FYI...
> 
> I have not mentioned the member count in some time for this
> list.? We
> currently have 485 members.? During the Fall and
> Winter months the count
> goes up significantly.? Some members are very seasonal
> with the list...
> 
> 73
> Brian / w5ami
> 
> 
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> My website: "Arkansas Airwaves" - http://arkansasairwaves.net
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From k5xu at comcast.net  Fri Jun 18 20:28:05 2010
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:28:05 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] The 15 Meter Town Cryer is Back!
Message-ID: <A375CDFBEDAD4EDF9C4200F5B057E68F@K5XU>

Yes, it's me again, with my usual question.

Fifteen meters is open into the mid Atlantic and east coast from 
Mississippi.

If anyone wants to claim some spectrum space for AM, I'm listening on 
21.425.

I'll be there until around 8:30 PM central time.

BTW, the FM broadcast band was open into Wisconsin about an hour ago.






Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



From k5xu at comcast.net  Fri Jun 18 20:43:31 2010
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:43:31 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Will the K9 Please Try Again on 15
Message-ID: <0677985B6B84408C8FC5AC11CDFB8173@K5XU>

I heard a K9 on 15 with a good signal about 2 minutes ago.

By the time I finished an e-mail message I was composing, he was gone.

Please try again.





Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



From k5xu at comcast.net  Fri Jun 18 21:49:32 2010
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:49:32 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Now on 10 Meters with KC3OL
Message-ID: <CADDE8B4014945BFA6CB8851EA056C6D@K5XU>

In
QSO with Ted, and had a brief 3 way with W7ZFX in Washington State.

Come on up to 29.0, the E skip is fine.

I'll check 15 meters again before I turn in.




Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



From k5xu at comcast.net  Fri Jun 18 22:13:27 2010
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:13:27 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] It's A Beautiful Night in the 15 Meter Neighborhood
Message-ID: <E7C0A30E77B94D1E8004C131D75F92AE@K5XU>

I just finished a qso on 21.425 with AC0NJ in Co.

He had a great signal with his FT2000.

KC3OL is also still local signal quality on 29.0 as I write this.




Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 00:11:46 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:11:46 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] The 15 Meter Town Cryer is Back!
In-Reply-To: <A375CDFBEDAD4EDF9C4200F5B057E68F@K5XU>
References: <A375CDFBEDAD4EDF9C4200F5B057E68F@K5XU>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-XSP7A2_oH2qpJgZMNDR6odW7Q0UcXm1yLx6W@mail.gmail.com>

Thunderstorms here in N.E. IL : (

Rob
K5UJ

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Mike Duke, K5XU <k5xu at comcast.net> wrote:
> Yes, it's me again, with my usual question.
>
> Fifteen meters is open into the mid Atlantic and east coast from
> Mississippi.
>
> If anyone wants to claim some spectrum space for AM, I'm listening on
> 21.425.
>
> I'll be there until around 8:30 PM central time.
>
> BTW, the FM broadcast band was open into Wisconsin about an hour ago.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Duke, K5XU
> American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
>
>
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sat Jun 19 10:26:59 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:26:59 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
In-Reply-To: <COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>	<00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net>
	<COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004b01cb0fbb$7a1f8c60$6e5ea520$@net>

It is in the mail 1st class today.. Enjoy Dick

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:32 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug

Yes I need the microphone end.

K6KWQ Dick
 Amps by "MORE POWER"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug


> Dick, Are you talking about the screw on button??? Did you need the 
> chassis
> conector or the one on the mic??? I have both...I think  I know I have the
> mic end but think there is a chassis there as well...
>
> Very Best 73's
> Bob Peters
> W1PE
>
> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
>
> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
> >From The Old Dog
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:45 PM
> To: Old Tube Radios; amlist
> Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
>
> Still working on the Heathkit Twoer project. I need an orignal microphone
> for the old lunch box radios or at least a plug that was on the end of the
> mic. Please reply off list.
> K6KWQ Dick
>  Amps by "MORE POWER"
>
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From k5xu at comcast.net  Sat Jun 19 10:33:03 2010
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:33:03 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] The Higher Bands are already Hot this Morning
Message-ID: <B1810F7D097946BAB7A197BB660C6167@K5XU>

Both 10 and 6 meters are full of signals here in Mississippi this
morning.

On 10, the K0KP 500 MW beacon on 28.212.8 is 599, and a 3 watt beacon
from Illinois on 28.214 is even stronger.

The 6 meter beacon band is full of signals from the mid west and east
coast.

So, crank up something, and get on the air.

I plan to be on 15 meter AM on 21.425, or 10 meter AM on 29.000 or
above if the band gets busy.


Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



From mark.k3msb at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 10:51:53 2010
From: mark.k3msb at gmail.com (Mark K3MSB)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:51:53 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] The Higher Bands are already Hot this Morning
In-Reply-To: <B1810F7D097946BAB7A197BB660C6167@K5XU>
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Had a significant double hop opening into the midwest and PNW last night on
6M;

Only one station worked on 6 AM,  and my CQ's didn't net anybody.....

73 Mark K3MSB

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Mike Duke, K5XU <k5xu at comcast.net> wrote:

> Both 10 and 6 meters are full of signals here in Mississippi this
> morning.
>
> On 10, the K0KP 500 MW beacon on 28.212.8 is 599, and a 3 watt beacon
> from Illinois on 28.214 is even stronger.
>
> The 6 meter beacon band is full of signals from the mid west and east
> coast.
>
> So, crank up something, and get on the air.
>
> I plan to be on 15 meter AM on 21.425, or 10 meter AM on 29.000 or
> above if the band gets busy.
>
>
> Mike Duke, K5XU
> American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
>
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From k6kwq at msn.com  Sat Jun 19 11:49:06 2010
From: k6kwq at msn.com (RICHARD GEORGE)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:49:06 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
In-Reply-To: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>	<00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net><COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>
	<004b01cb0fbb$7a1f8c60$6e5ea520$@net>
References: <COL112-DS2599F512DF7F0E71011D24F5DF0@phx.gbl>	<00e201cb0e4d$ce5d1af0$6b1750d0$@net><COL112-DS65DD8706F16A9FF763741F5DF0@phx.gbl>
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Thanks I hope I can repay the favor some day.
73
K6KWQ Dick
 Amps by "MORE POWER"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug


> It is in the mail 1st class today.. Enjoy Dick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:32 PM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
>
> Yes I need the microphone end.
>
> K6KWQ Dick
>  Amps by "MORE POWER"
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
> To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
>
>
> > Dick, Are you talking about the screw on button??? Did you need the
> > chassis
> > conector or the one on the mic??? I have both...I think  I know I have 
> > the
> > mic end but think there is a chassis there as well...
> >
> > Very Best 73's
> > Bob Peters
> > W1PE
> >
> > ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
> >
> > Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
> > >From The Old Dog
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of RICHARD GEORGE
> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:45 PM
> > To: Old Tube Radios; amlist
> > Subject: [AMRadio] Microphone plug
> >
> > Still working on the Heathkit Twoer project. I need an orignal 
> > microphone
> > for the old lunch box radios or at least a plug that was on the end of 
> > the
> > mic. Please reply off list.
> > K6KWQ Dick
> >  Amps by "MORE POWER"
> >
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From sbjohnston at aol.com  Sat Jun 19 11:57:45 2010
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:57:45 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] The Higher Bands are already Hot this Morning
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJGdyvjBjF4hIvjyxM0yrfii0IKotGexBbx4ar@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B1810F7D097946BAB7A197BB660C6167@K5XU>
	<AANLkTimJGdyvjBjF4hIvjyxM0yrfii0IKotGexBbx4ar@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDDDF4A93B9FE-E5C-7C7D@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com>

Great opening on six meters last night - better check again this 
morning.

I periodically called CQs on 50.4 AM without response.


Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
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From manualman at juno.com  Sat Jun 19 15:37:28 2010
From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:37:28 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] The Higher Bands are already Hot this Morning
Message-ID: <20100619.125501.22947.108121@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>

The problem , at least at my location here in NJ, when the band really
opens up good across a big portion of the country, and a bunch of people
are all calling CQ on 50.4, all I hear are heterodynes. And, if the SSB
crowd hasn't moved up to 50.2 MHz during a band opening, I call CQ on AM
there. Generally get a response; sometimes on SSB, but most are willing
to flip the switch or push the AM button, to make the contact. When the
band opens up between two locations, and you and several other AM
stations in your area, who you might not hear, are all on the same
frequency calling CQ, the station at the other end probably is hearing
all of the them as one big heterdyne.
 
Pete, wa2cwa
 
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:57:45 -0400 sbjohnston at aol.com writes:
> Great opening on six meters last night - better check again this 
> morning.
> 
> I periodically called CQs on 50.4 AM without response.
> 
> 
> Steve WD8DAS

From johndtate at post.com  Sat Jun 19 19:06:20 2010
From: johndtate at post.com (johndtate at post.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:06:20 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] The Higher Bands are already Hot this Morning
In-Reply-To: <20100619.125501.22947.108121@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100619.125501.22947.108121@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDE1B29234C95-5F4-258A2@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>

This is why tuning around the call frequency is important.  Call on 
50.400 and say listening 10 to 50 up.  Or just make a cq up 10.


-----Original Message-----
From: manualman at juno.com
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Higher Bands are already Hot this Morning


The problem , at least at my location here in NJ, when the band really
opens up good across a big portion of the country, and a bunch of people
are all calling CQ on 50.4, all I hear are heterodynes. And, if the SSB
crowd hasn't moved up to 50.2 MHz during a band opening, I call CQ on AM
there. Generally get a response; sometimes on SSB, but most are willing
to flip the switch or push the AM button, to make the contact. When the
band opens up between two locations, and you and several other AM
stations in your area, who you might not hear, are all on the same
frequency calling CQ, the station at the other end probably is hearing
all of the them as one big heterdyne.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:57:45 -0400 sbjohnston at aol.com writes:
> Great opening on six meters last night - better check again this
> morning.
>
> I periodically called CQs on 50.4 AM without response.
>
>
> Steve WD8DAS
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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 20 08:27:22 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:27:22 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] 10 meters
Message-ID: <09923B6F9B734DBD8175C9F01947D7B4@bernie>

yep, the Higher bands are open, ten yesteray evening had more beacons than I 
have ever heard.  But, I have no idea what sort of operation is going on!! 
heard no AM so went to ssb, worked a fla station  that would not say more 
than five or six words, then nothing. another w2ggi, was calling cq or qrz, 
he would come back with w8r??  your 5x9 missed your name and qth, then next 
exchange would be thanks, qrz!!.   I hope that as more do move up to ten 
this sillyness will abate.   Yes, I do undestand that some may be new and 
not  comfortable, so I do try and draw them out with the usual questions, 
antenna, gear, weather, what are you hearing etc etc.  but it just does not 
seem to work on ten.  Bernie W8RPW 



From wb4iuy at teara.org  Sun Jun 20 08:41:42 2010
From: wb4iuy at teara.org (wb4iuy at teara.org)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:41:42 +0000
Subject: [AMRadio] 10 meters
Message-ID: <B2.75.03150.68C0E1C4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

At 08:27 AM 6/20/2010 -0400, you wrote:
>yep, the Higher bands are open, ten yesteray evening had more beacons than I 
>have ever heard.  But, I have no idea what sort of operation is going on!! 
>heard no AM so went to ssb, worked a fla station  that would not say more 
>than five or six words, then nothing. another w2ggi, was calling cq or qrz, 
>he would come back with w8r??  your 5x9 missed your name and qth, then next 
>exchange would be thanks, qrz!!.   I hope that as more do move up to ten 
>this sillyness will abate.   Yes, I do undestand that some may be new and 
>not  comfortable, so I do try and draw them out with the usual questions, 
>antenna, gear, weather, what are you hearing etc etc.  but it just does not 
>seem to work on ten.  Bernie W8RPW 

Hi Bernie,

Maybe it was just not good into your location, I worked a bunch of folks
yesterday on 10cw, psk, and olivia. Made several contacts on 10 ssb. Called
CQ on 29.0 AM several times but didn't hear anyone. Maybe today, though!

Dave WB4IUY
www.WB4IUY.net


From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 21 08:56:30 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:56:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
Message-ID: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a Carolina Windom Dipole I use on AM and SSB, oriented with ends N/S at about a 30 deg. downward slope and ends 4 ft. above ground. I get good reception and coverage all around the compass. But on AM I seem to be week on AM toward Dallas and Oklahoma. I "boom in" on 75 meters in Dallas, OK, LA, MS, and other states.
Is there a particular antenna and/or antenna configuration that is more effective on AM? I know RF is RF, but, I am still learning.

Thanks and 73
Brian/KF5CCN


From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 21 09:42:24 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:42:24 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
References: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B66E15AFEA4E48DABC6E39391FEDF3D1@bernie>

Brian, you are correct RF is RF, for all practical purposes that will be no 
detectable difference between AM or SSB for amateur use. however, I have 
little faith in the efficiency of so called  multiband antennas.  I strongly 
favor a " simple dipole" or a wire about 1/2 wave or more fed in the center 
with open wire feeders from a good tuner like the old Johnson match box. It 
does sound like your antenna is very low and that has a major impact on 
impedance and bandwidth.   sure would help if you could get it up to 40 feet 
or so.   There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas 
in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM 
sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur 
bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!     I 
assume you are feeding with coax, hopefully the large stuff like RG8.  If 
there is a balon transformer involved, they really do not like strange 
impedance loads attached to them.  They really are a transmission line 
transformer and have been misused horribly!   Bernie W8RPW

  ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian - KF5CCN" <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
To: <AMRadio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:56 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas


>I have a Carolina Windom Dipole I use on AM and SSB, oriented with ends N/S 
>at about a 30 deg. downward slope and ends 4 ft. above ground. I get good 
>reception and coverage all around the compass. But on AM I seem to be week 
>on AM toward Dallas and Oklahoma. I "boom in" on 75 meters in Dallas, OK, 
>LA, MS, and other states.
> Is there a particular antenna and/or antenna configuration that is more 
> effective on AM? I know RF is RF, but, I am still learning.
>
> Thanks and 73
> Brian/KF5CCN
>
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From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 12:45:26 2010
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:45:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on ants
Message-ID: <753248.27316.qm@web53208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Also, if you are using controlled carrier AM modulation, your unmodulated low power AM carrier may be down in the mud, but your fully modulated signal is very easily heard.  Sometimes the receiving end will complain about signal strength, and I think this has more to do with the type of detector in the RX, where the carriers only function is to charge the RC circuit after the detector.  Controlled carrier can sometimes sound like SSB, and I used to get told all the time, when using a DX60 on 20 meters, and phasing type SSB rigs where still abundant, that my carrier was not nulled out completely.




      

From w4bws at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 13:40:12 2010
From: w4bws at yahoo.com (Donald Sanders)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <926034.70341.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The problem is not the antenna but the fact that compared to SSB you need 4 times the AM power to sound as strong. If you want a stronger signal and have the room, put up a half wave dipole with a reflector behing it to beam your signal to Dallas.
That said, the configuration of your windom is like an inverted Vee and you sacrifice signal strength in the broadside direction to gain more omni-directional coverage. IIRC, Cebik said the windom in inverted Vee was about 85% as effective as in the flattop installation.
My Carolina Windom worked like gangbusters when I was in Alabama and up in the 70 foot level between the trees. Here it is at 30 feet, no tall trees, and works ho-hum.? Any antenna is better than no antenna.
Don W4BWS/HC4




________________________________
From: Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 7:56:30 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas

I have a Carolina Windom Dipole I use on AM and SSB, oriented with ends N/S at about a 30 deg. downward slope and ends 4 ft. above ground. I get good reception and coverage all around the compass. But on AM I seem to be week on AM toward Dallas and Oklahoma. I "boom in" on 75 meters in Dallas, OK, LA, MS, and other states.
Is there a particular antenna and/or antenna configuration that is more effective on AM? I know RF is RF, but, I am still learning.

Thanks and 73
Brian/KF5CCN

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From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 14:04:54 2010
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
Message-ID: <354557.83260.qm@web53208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

(forgot to ID myself)

Also, if you are using controlled carrier AM modulation, your unmodulated low power AM carrier may be down in the mud, but your fully modulated signal is very easily heard.  Sometimes the receiving end will complain about signal strength, and I think this has more to do with the type of detector in the RX, where the carriers only function is to charge the RC circuit after the detector.  Controlled carrier can sometimes sound like SSB, and I used to get told all the time, when using a DX60 on 20 meters, and phasing type SSB rigs where still abundant, that my carrier was not nulled out completely.

Charlie W4MEC, in NC



      

From rbethman at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 14:24:57 2010
From: rbethman at comcast.net (rbethman)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:24:57 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
In-Reply-To: <354557.83260.qm@web53208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <354557.83260.qm@web53208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C1FAE79.4000700@comcast.net>

de N0DGN,

First, a DX-60 will drive a pair of 3-500Zs with a carrier of almost 300W.

It isn't important whether a SSB station mumbles about the carrier not 
being nulled out.  An AM rig is "supposed" to have a carrier.

Then the antenna issue is dependent on whether the limits of property 
size, tree height, and or tower/pole height aren't always what is the 
most desirable.

If one can't afford a tower, try to contact the local power company.  
See if you can get a "used" pole.  sometimes when they do have them, you 
can get them to either drop it off,, OR if you talk "real" nice, they'll 
bore the hole and set it for you.

Bob - N0DGN

On 6/21/2010 2:04 PM, CL in NC wrote:
> (forgot to ID myself)
>
> Also, if you are using controlled carrier AM modulation, your unmodulated low power AM carrier may be down in the mud, but your fully modulated signal is very easily heard.  Sometimes the receiving end will complain about signal strength, and I think this has more to do with the type of detector in the RX, where the carriers only function is to charge the RC circuit after the detector.  Controlled carrier can sometimes sound like SSB, and I used to get told all the time, when using a DX60 on 20 meters, and phasing type SSB rigs where still abundant, that my carrier was not nulled out completely.
>
> Charlie W4MEC, in NC


From ranchorobbo at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 14:33:41 2010
From: ranchorobbo at gmail.com (Rob Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:33:41 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimeV4yxAIbvQjW-0UJW9TqE69x1vf6VCYBjZQUN@mail.gmail.com>

One of the challenges of AM is that because the power is spread
amongst carrier and two sidebands the power transfer from the rig to
the sky has to be maximized in order to have quality QSOs as opposed
to "Sorry OM dinner bell, gotta go."

Ur Carolina Windom is too low, especially at the ends where  you are
loosing a lot of power to ground due to coupling.  It may seem to be
okay because if condx are good and/or you are operating cw or ssb you
may be told you are "booming in" by a polite operator but if at that
moment you could do an a/b with the antenna Bernie recommends I
guarantee you'd probably gain 10 dB.   Those C.W. antennas use baluns
(another power waster) so you will be far better off with a 1/2 wave
75 m. dipole fed in the center with open wire feed and a Johnson KW
matchbox or some other link coupled tuner, i.e. the antenna Bernie
described.   Get it up at least 50 feet and you will be amazed.
Don't get me wrong, it won't be a 75 meter dx antenna; it will still
be a cloud burner but the loss to ground will be way lower and with
100 to 200 watts carrier you will have a pretty strapping signal
unless condx are really bad (like they have been lately).
If you can go higher that's even better.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Brian - KF5CCN <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have a Carolina Windom Dipole I use on AM and SSB, oriented with ends N/S at about a 30 deg. downward slope and ends 4 ft. above ground. I get good reception and coverage all around the compass. But on AM I seem to be week on AM toward Dallas and Oklahoma. I "boom in" on 75 meters in Dallas, OK, LA, MS, and other states.
> Is there a particular antenna and/or antenna configuration that is more effective on AM? I know RF is RF, but, I am still learning.
>
> Thanks and 73
> Brian/KF5CCN
>
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From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 21 14:34:05 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:34:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
In-Reply-To: <4C1FAE79.4000700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <240459.86290.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

By the way, Maybe I did not mention this, I am putting out about 450 watts P.E.P. with a resting carrier of 150 watts. I am working on the antenna today.
Thanks for all your input.

Brian
KF5CCN

From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 21 16:36:44 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:36:44 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
References: <240459.86290.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A5887EF2240042058508738F5E955AFA@bernie>

Hi Brian: you should have a great signal, just get that rascal up at least 
twenty feet and you will be surprised, My power co sold me two new 45 Ft 
poles and placed them for a little under $ 900 That height models very well 
for all bands, yes, it is too high an angle for 80 but really good for 20 
and up and certainly very usable for 80. I also found that if you have to go 
through a wall, my garage with steel siding and finished interior wall, 
short lengths of hardline make a great feed though. I used 3/4 inch and the 
exterior is a tight fit in holes punched through the siding.  length is 
about 8 inches.   I gave up on trying to get something in the trees!! 
This pulls up and down in a matter of minutes if I want to try something 
else. yep, 90 ft poles would be much better, but the cost becomes absurd, 
several $K per pole.  open wire feeders are very easy to make, the round 
clothes hangers that sell by the 50 pack make great spreaders. cut, drill, 
feed the wire through,. wrap with small guage wire and cover the wrap with 
RTV.  near zero loss. always best to feed in the center, but I am using a 
260 foot wire fed 60 + feet from one end.  Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian - KF5CCN" <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)


> By the way, Maybe I did not mention this, I am putting out about 450 watts 
> P.E.P. with a resting carrier of 150 watts. I am working on the antenna 
> today.
> Thanks for all your input.
>
> Brian
> KF5CCN
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From ad5hr1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 19:37:11 2010
From: ad5hr1 at yahoo.com (jon baker)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:37:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
In-Reply-To: <A5887EF2240042058508738F5E955AFA@bernie>
Message-ID: <7026.41831.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

   Brian,
   If you're space or hieght limited, put up a full-wave 80 Meter
  Loop(65 to 70 feet on each leg if square), and feed with window
  line(one inch Twinlead) or open wire(ladder -line).Mine's up 33'.
   Loads up fine with my MFJ tuner on all bands from 80 up through
  6 meters. This is the only antenna I own.
   On 160, I tie the two leads together, and feed it as a Random end-
  fed wire (90 feet of feedline) and the loop acts as a 4900 sq. ft.
  capacity hat. In the winter, I attach a couple of 1/4 wave radials
  a few inches above ground, but roll them up in the Spring. Lawn-
  mowers do not like munching a few hundred feet of 16 guage insulated
  wire. HI
   On 2 meter sideband, I use a Homebrew "hairpin" balanced line tuner,
  and have made 300 plus mile contacts with 50 Watts.
   Any of you antenna gurus care to model a 40 wavelength loop up 33
  feet?
   Some will say, this is a Cloud-Warmer, but it warms some pretty far-
  away clouds. I have DXCC confirmed on 80, 40, 20, and 15 meters, 287
  of 338 entities, 30 on 160 28 on six, and 2 on 144 Mhz in 5 years.
   A large loop makes a great all-band antenna if fed with plenty of
  low loss wire feeders, and isn't picky at all about length or shape.
   Even with only 90 Watts or so from the homebrew 75M A.M.rig I have
  no trouble "getting out" to the TX, OK,and AR stations you and I
  usually hear.
     AD5HR, Jon
     
--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
> To: kf5ccn at arrl.net, "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 3:36 PM
> Hi Brian: you should have a great
> signal, just get that rascal up at least 
> twenty feet and you will be surprised, My power co sold me
> two new 45 Ft 
> poles and placed them for a little under $ 900 That height
> models very well 
> for all bands, yes, it is too high an angle for 80 but
> really good for 20 
> and up and certainly very usable for 80. I also found that
> if you have to go 
> through a wall, my garage with steel siding and finished
> interior wall, 
> short lengths of hardline make a great feed though. I used
> 3/4 inch and the 
> exterior is a tight fit in holes punched through the
> siding.? length is 
> about 8 inches.???I gave up on trying to get
> something in the trees!! 
> This pulls up and down in a matter of minutes if I want to
> try something 
> else. yep, 90 ft poles would be much better, but the cost
> becomes absurd, 
> several $K per pole.? open wire feeders are very easy
> to make, the round 
> clothes hangers that sell by the 50 pack make great
> spreaders. cut, drill, 
> feed the wire through,. wrap with small guage wire and
> cover the wrap with 
> RTV.? near zero loss. always best to feed in the
> center, but I am using a 
> 260 foot wire fed 60 + feet from one end.? Bernie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian - KF5CCN" <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
> 
> 
> > By the way, Maybe I did not mention this, I am putting
> out about 450 watts 
> > P.E.P. with a resting carrier of 150 watts. I am
> working on the antenna 
> > today.
> > Thanks for all your input.
> >
> > Brian
> > KF5CCN
> >
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From bzwiener at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 21 20:09:45 2010
From: bzwiener at sbcglobal.net (Brian - KF5CCN)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:09:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
In-Reply-To: <7026.41831.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <181671.16803.qm@web81605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Jon. That is what I am going to do.

73?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ??? 
Brian
Email: KF5CCN at ARRL.NET
Web site: KF5CCN.COM2-Way Radio Repair in Austin, TXHam Radio News Group
"Life is much too short for QRP"
?? 
?
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--- On Mon, 6/21/10, jon baker <ad5hr1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: jon baker <ad5hr1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 6:37 PM

???Brian,
???If you're space or hieght limited, put up a full-wave 80 Meter
? Loop(65 to 70 feet on each leg if square), and feed with window
? line(one inch Twinlead) or open wire(ladder -line).Mine's up 33'.
???Loads up fine with my MFJ tuner on all bands from 80 up through
? 6 meters. This is the only antenna I own.
???On 160, I tie the two leads together, and feed it as a Random end-
? fed wire (90 feet of feedline) and the loop acts as a 4900 sq. ft.
? capacity hat. In the winter, I attach a couple of 1/4 wave radials
? a few inches above ground, but roll them up in the Spring. Lawn-
? mowers do not like munching a few hundred feet of 16 guage insulated
? wire. HI
???On 2 meter sideband, I use a Homebrew "hairpin" balanced line tuner,
? and have made 300 plus mile contacts with 50 Watts.
???Any of you antenna gurus care to model a 40 wavelength loop up 33
? feet?
???Some will say, this is a Cloud-Warmer, but it warms some pretty far-
? away clouds. I have DXCC confirmed on 80, 40, 20, and 15 meters, 287
? of 338 entities, 30 on 160 28 on six, and 2 on 144 Mhz in 5 years.
???A large loop makes a great all-band antenna if fed with plenty of
? low loss wire feeders, and isn't picky at all about length or shape.
???Even with only 90 Watts or so from the homebrew 75M A.M.rig I have
? no trouble "getting out" to the TX, OK,and AR stations you and I
? usually hear.
? ???AD5HR, Jon
? ???
--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
> To: kf5ccn at arrl.net, "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 3:36 PM
> Hi Brian: you should have a great
> signal, just get that rascal up at least 
> twenty feet and you will be surprised, My power co sold me
> two new 45 Ft 
> poles and placed them for a little under $ 900 That height
> models very well 
> for all bands, yes, it is too high an angle for 80 but
> really good for 20 
> and up and certainly very usable for 80. I also found that
> if you have to go 
> through a wall, my garage with steel siding and finished
> interior wall, 
> short lengths of hardline make a great feed though. I used
> 3/4 inch and the 
> exterior is a tight fit in holes punched through the
> siding.? length is 
> about 8 inches.???I gave up on trying to get
> something in the trees!! 
> This pulls up and down in a matter of minutes if I want to
> try something 
> else. yep, 90 ft poles would be much better, but the cost
> becomes absurd, 
> several $K per pole.? open wire feeders are very easy
> to make, the round 
> clothes hangers that sell by the 50 pack make great
> spreaders. cut, drill, 
> feed the wire through,. wrap with small guage wire and
> cover the wrap with 
> RTV.? near zero loss. always best to feed in the
> center, but I am using a 
> 260 foot wire fed 60 + feet from one end.? Bernie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian - KF5CCN" <bzwiener at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on Ants(forgot to ID)
> 
> 
> > By the way, Maybe I did not mention this, I am putting
> out about 450 watts 
> > P.E.P. with a resting carrier of 150 watts. I am
> working on the antenna 
> > today.
> > Thanks for all your input.
> >
> > Brian
> > KF5CCN
> >
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From k4kyv at charter.net  Tue Jun 22 11:35:50 2010
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:35:50 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
References: <mailman.79.1277136049.11446.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <A2D66F23F79345678B33AB41B2FE62FD@D65Y8B21>

> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM
> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur
> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!! 
> Bernie W8RPW

I  almost have that situation on 160m when I use my 80m dipole, fed with 
open wire line and balanced tuner.  I can move maybe +/- 5 kHz before I have 
to retune.  Using that antenna set-up is like being crystal controlled, 
since I have to go down to the tower to re-set the tuner.

Hopefully, by upcoming season I'll have my remote tuning system, with 
reversible DC motor, so I'll at least be able to QSY within the same band 
without a trip to t he tower.  I hope to eventually make it so I can change 
bands remotely as well.


Don k4kyv






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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 22 12:09:10 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:09:10 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
References: <mailman.79.1277136049.11446.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<A2D66F23F79345678B33AB41B2FE62FD@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <F063E6FD610047348192EAD4BD1AB99E@bernie>

well Don, The good thing about that is it must be fairly efficient.  That 
thing is probably only a few ohms R and a bunch of x, any significant series 
r would make it wider, sort of like a 100 ft run of small coax and an SWR of 
" only 4 to 1 on 28 mc."   it could be a dead short on the antenna end.   80 
has been so noisy lately that I have about given up. Bernie W8RPW

 Original Message ----- 
From: "D. Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas


>> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM
>> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur
>> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!
>> Bernie W8RPW
>
> I  almost have that situation on 160m when I use my 80m dipole, fed with
> open wire line and balanced tuner.  I can move maybe +/- 5 kHz before I 
> have
> to retune.  Using that antenna set-up is like being crystal controlled,
> since I have to go down to the tower to re-set the tuner.
>
> Hopefully, by upcoming season I'll have my remote tuning system, with
> reversible DC motor, so I'll at least be able to QSY within the same band
> without a trip to t he tower.  I hope to eventually make it so I can 
> change
> bands remotely as well.
>
>
> Don k4kyv
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From normsclassicradio at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 22 12:07:54 2010
From: normsclassicradio at yahoo.com (Norm Palin K7NCR)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] INDIAN STATION STILL FOR SALE
Message-ID: <687708.70009.qm@web56302.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Revised ad includes shipping option:
Finances force the sale of my Heath station. Apache TX1, minor audio mods done. Mohawk RX1, Steve Bonomo mods done, will include docs, Rare AK-5 Speaker, Marauder HX1, stock operating condition, just repaired. SB-10, operates a little flaky, dirty pots, etc. VHF-1 Seneca 6-2 meter AM/CW transmitter, Johnson 275 watt match-box, works great. HO-10 monitor scope, works fine. 2 mics, both with newer crystal elements. I can meet someone in the western MT, or northern ID/eastern WA. Shipping would be BIG $$$. Would like to get $850 for the whole station. If someone comes here, I'll throw in a little 30 ft. aluminum tower that can be broken down into 8 ft sections. Freight for a 450 lb crate to Miami would be about $460, other closer areas less, of course. Will pack in foam lined wood crate for shipping.
Norm Palin 406-212-0059
K
 7
  N-orms
   C-lassic
    R-adio
Not racist, not violent, just not silent anymore!!!!!!


      


From ne1s at securespeed.us  Tue Jun 22 12:19:30 2010
From: ne1s at securespeed.us (Larry Szendrei)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <B66E15AFEA4E48DABC6E39391FEDF3D1@bernie>
References: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<B66E15AFEA4E48DABC6E39391FEDF3D1@bernie>
Message-ID: <53787.24.97.227.120.1277223570.squirrel@mail.securespeed.us>

> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM
> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur
> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!

Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM mobile signal, with reports
of one sideband being attenuated relative to the other. Antenna is a
Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").

73,
-Larry/NE1S

-- 
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From W4AWM at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 12:24:48 2010
From: W4AWM at aol.com (W4AWM at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:24:48 EDT
Subject: [AMRadio] INDIAN STATION STILL FOR SALE
Message-ID: <4ad2c.10eabb61.39523dd0@aol.com>

Hi Norm,
 
Try shipping by Greyhound Bus.  Mush cheaper and they take good care  of 
their cargo. The only downer is that you have to deliver the consignment to  
the depot and the consignee has to pick it up on the other end. Small 
concession  for lower rates and safer handling.
 
73 and good luck,
 
John,  W4AWM

From jc at pctechref.com  Tue Jun 22 12:28:03 2010
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:28:03 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <A2D66F23F79345678B33AB41B2FE62FD@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.79.1277136049.11446.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<A2D66F23F79345678B33AB41B2FE62FD@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <000601cb1227$e4249ba0$ac6dd2e0$@com>

The other interesting thing about HiQ antennas is that the final must be
neutralized very well else it will tend go into some weird oscillations with
the slightest mistuning and may oscillator with modulation or at least have
significant phasing products causing the signal to be much wider than it
otherwise would be.  I am not sure, in the case where neutralization is
perfect, if HiQ tuning would cause phasing products with modulation near the
slope of the tuning curve or not.  It seems to me that it would, but the
attenuation of the slope may cover that up.

John 

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of D. Chester
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:36 AM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas

> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM
> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur
> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!! 
> Bernie W8RPW

I  almost have that situation on 160m when I use my 80m dipole, fed with 
open wire line and balanced tuner.  I can move maybe +/- 5 kHz before I have

to retune.  Using that antenna set-up is like being crystal controlled, 
since I have to go down to the tower to re-set the tuner.

Hopefully, by upcoming season I'll have my remote tuning system, with 
reversible DC motor, so I'll at least be able to QSY within the same band 
without a trip to t he tower.  I hope to eventually make it so I can change 
bands remotely as well.


Don k4kyv






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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 22 14:25:07 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:07 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
References: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com><B66E15AFEA4E48DABC6E39391FEDF3D1@bernie>
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Hi Larry:  what a dinosaur!!! you might even be older that I am. I have not 
heard an 80 AM station since 1950s. but that sure qualifies for a few feet. 
I wonder if anyone ever thought there was something wrong with their xmtr. 
bet you could tell them that you are setting it for side band the way TV 
does!!   Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Szendrei" <ne1s at securespeed.us>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas


>> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM
>> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur
>> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!
>
> Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM mobile signal, with reports
> of one sideband being attenuated relative to the other. Antenna is a
> Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").
>
> 73,
> -Larry/NE1S
>
> -- 
> Pay a visit to my amateur radio web page at:
> ne1s.rfburn.org
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From ne1s at securespeed.us  Tue Jun 22 19:57:23 2010
From: ne1s at securespeed.us (Larry Szendrei)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:57:23 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <2A1AA0C0C69640FC9DB4A3D8F76C652D@bernie>
References: <905288.26301.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com><B66E15AFEA4E48DABC6E39391FEDF3D1@bernie>
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Bernie Doran wrote:
> Hi Larry:  what a dinosaur!!! you might even be older that I am. I 
> have not heard an 80 AM station since 1950s. but that sure qualifies 
> for a few feet. I wonder if anyone ever thought there was something 
> wrong with their xmtr. bet you could tell them that you are setting it 
> for side band the way TV does!!   Bernie
Hi Bernie!

Yep, vestigial sideband.

Nope, you're older, but I probably have older gear!

The first time I got a report like that I didn't think much of it. The 
second time it was from I a guy whose technical expertise I knew and 
trusted, so I took it as accurate. At first I couldn't think what might 
make a classic plate-modulated class C transmitter have asymmetric 
sidebands, and wasn't coming up with anything for a satisfying 
explanation (mobile transmitter was/is an Elmac A-54H, class C 807 
modulated by pair of 5881s). Then I though about how sharp the antenna 
tuned, and I came to the conclusion the antenna was acting as a sideband 
filter - albeit not a terribly effective one (assuming you wanted SSB - 
but who would want that? ;-))

73 and hope to talk to you on the air again this fall/winter,
-Larry/NE1S

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Szendrei" <ne1s at securespeed.us>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
>
>
>>> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
>>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that 
>>> the AM
>>> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the 
>>> amateur
>>> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!
>>
>> Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM mobile signal, with reports
>> of one sideband being attenuated relative to the other. Antenna is a
>> Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").
>>
>> 73,
>> -Larry/NE1S 
>


From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 22 21:09:09 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:09:09 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Fw:  Antennas
Message-ID: <156A304C70DA456EA74E5AC0B5A9E085@bernie>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
To: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas


> correct that to read 80 meter MOBILE AM station. see, I am getting old!!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> To: <ne1s at securespeed.us>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
>
>
>> Hi Larry:  what a dinosaur!!! you might even be older that I am. I have 
>> not heard an 80 AM station since 1950s. but that sure qualifies for a few 
>> feet. I wonder if anyone ever thought there was something wrong with 
>> their xmtr. bet you could tell them that you are setting it for side band 
>> the way TV does!!   Bernie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry Szendrei" <ne1s at securespeed.us>
>> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
>> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
>>
>>
>>>> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
>>>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the 
>>>> AM
>>>> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the 
>>>> amateur
>>>> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!
>>>
>>> Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM mobile signal, with reports
>>> of one sideband being attenuated relative to the other. Antenna is a
>>> Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> -Larry/NE1S
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Pay a visit to my amateur radio web page at:
>>> ne1s.rfburn.org
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From ad5hr1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 22 22:01:43 2010
From: ad5hr1 at yahoo.com (jon baker)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AMRadio] Fw:  Antennas
In-Reply-To: <156A304C70DA456EA74E5AC0B5A9E085@bernie>
Message-ID: <579543.72352.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

   W5OMR (Bigfoot) has been running 75M.A.M. mobile for years
  down here in TX.
   Sent me some pics of his present mobile rig, a Johnson
  Viking II hooked to a honkin' inverter in his Ford F150
  truck.
   Goeff is a "hotshot" driver, so most of his radio time
  is mobile.
   I listen for him every morning on 3.880.
   Have also talked to Sammy(W5DPP) mobile on A.M., so it's
  not totally extinct.HI
   Guess I need to look for an AF-68 or something?
     AD5HR, Jon
       p.s.  listen for K0CXX, Bill. He has a 20-v3 with
             Buck Owens' original 1950's audio set-up from
             his first A.M  station in Bakersfield, sounds
             GREAT. Check him out on QRZ, quite the Collins
             collector



--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Fw:  Antennas
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 8:09 PM
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
> 
> 
> > correct that to read 80 meter MOBILE AM station. see,
> I am getting old!!
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> > To: <ne1s at securespeed.us>;
> "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> > <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
> >
> >
> >> Hi Larry:? what a dinosaur!!! you might even
> be older that I am. I have 
> >> not heard an 80 AM station since 1950s. but that
> sure qualifies for a few 
> >> feet. I wonder if anyone ever thought there was
> something wrong with 
> >> their xmtr. bet you could tell them that you are
> setting it for side band 
> >> the way TV does!!???Bernie
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Larry Szendrei" <ne1s at securespeed.us>
> >> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur
> Service" 
> >> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
> >>
> >>
> >>>> There have been some interesting cases
> with short loaded antennas
> >>>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has
> occasionally been so narrow that the 
> >>>> AM
> >>>> sidebands become attenuated!? Not
> going to see that effect in the 
> >>>> amateur
> >>>> bands unless someone is running an antenna
> only a few feet long!!
> >>>
> >>> Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM
> mobile signal, with reports
> >>> of one sideband being attenuated relative to
> the other. Antenna is a
> >>> Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> -Larry/NE1S
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Pay a visit to my amateur radio web page at:
> >>> ne1s.rfburn.org
> >>>
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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Wed Jun 23 06:59:04 2010
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:59:04 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Fw:  Antennas
References: <579543.72352.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA5B81C998DE4B4CBC5681BD16EAC1A5@bernie>

mobile would make me very nervous, some of ours have six and seven computers 
buried in them  Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jon baker" <ad5hr1 at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Fw: Antennas


   W5OMR (Bigfoot) has been running 75M.A.M. mobile for years
  down here in TX.
   Sent me some pics of his present mobile rig, a Johnson
  Viking II hooked to a honkin' inverter in his Ford F150
  truck.
   Goeff is a "hotshot" driver, so most of his radio time
  is mobile.
   I listen for him every morning on 3.880.
   Have also talked to Sammy(W5DPP) mobile on A.M., so it's
  not totally extinct.HI
   Guess I need to look for an AF-68 or something?
     AD5HR, Jon
       p.s.  listen for K0CXX, Bill. He has a 20-v3 with
             Buck Owens' original 1950's audio set-up from
             his first A.M  station in Bakersfield, sounds
             GREAT. Check him out on QRZ, quite the Collins
             collector



--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Fw:  Antennas
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 8:09 PM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
>
>
> > correct that to read 80 meter MOBILE AM station. see,
> I am getting old!!
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> > To: <ne1s at securespeed.us>;
> "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> > <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
> >
> >
> >> Hi Larry: what a dinosaur!!! you might even
> be older that I am. I have
> >> not heard an 80 AM station since 1950s. but that
> sure qualifies for a few
> >> feet. I wonder if anyone ever thought there was
> something wrong with
> >> their xmtr. bet you could tell them that you are
> setting it for side band
> >> the way TV does!! Bernie
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Larry Szendrei" <ne1s at securespeed.us>
> >> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur
> Service"
> >> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas
> >>
> >>
> >>>> There have been some interesting cases
> with short loaded antennas
> >>>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has
> occasionally been so narrow that the
> >>>> AM
> >>>> sidebands become attenuated! Not
> going to see that effect in the
> >>>> amateur
> >>>> bands unless someone is running an antenna
> only a few feet long!!
> >>>
> >>> Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM
> mobile signal, with reports
> >>> of one sideband being attenuated relative to
> the other. Antenna is a
> >>> Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> -Larry/NE1S
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Pay a visit to my amateur radio web page at:
> >>> ne1s.rfburn.org
> >>>
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From k4kyv at charter.net  Thu Jun 24 12:08:00 2010
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:08:00 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
References: <mailman.11733.1277255361.9697.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>

> From: "Larry Szendrei" <ne1s at securespeed.us>

>>> There have been some interesting cases with short loaded antennas
>> in the BC band, the bandwidth has occasionally been so narrow that the AM
>> sidebands become attenuated!  Not going to see that effect in the amateur
>> bands unless someone is running an antenna only a few feet long!!
>
> Correct. This has been observed on my 75M AM mobile signal, with reports
> of one sideband being attenuated relative to the other. Antenna is a
> Webster bandpanner ("a few feet long").
>
> 73,
> -Larry/NE1S

The first commercial use of SSB was around 1920 for transatlantic telephone 
links using VLF.  Even the tallest tower in the world would be only a tiny 
fraction of a wave length at those frequencies. The bandwidth was too narrow 
to pass both sidebands, but they found that they could get by transmitting 
only one.  Thus, the sideband filter was the antenna itself! The balanced 
modulator circuit was known during the WW1 era. I have seen descriptions of 
the circuit in old radio books of that day.

The first SSB ham rig was described in a series of construction articles in 
R/9 magazine in 1933 and 1934.  I have the issues with the articles.

A lot of to-day's Hammy Hambones think that SSB was invented during or 
shortly after WW2.

Don k4kyv

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From esieb at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 24 12:26:59 2010
From: esieb at sympatico.ca (Ed Sieb)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:26:59 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP101CE208C72DE5FC6EEEA96C9C60@phx.gbl>

I believe that SSB was in use even before 1920.  The Bell System used SSB in FDM Mux
equipment  (C-carrier, etc.,)  in the "10's"  (1915 and later). This was between  4.5 Khz
and 60Khz.  As FDM technology improved the frequencies in use increased into the megahertz
range.  I have some modern FDM gear in my storage unit. Goes from 34Khz to 200Khz.  I'd
love to modulate a 900 Mhz link with that!

Ed, VA3ES
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don k4kyv wrote:
The first commercial use of SSB was around 1920 for transatlantic telephone
links using VLF.


From ssaw at mchsi.com  Thu Jun 24 12:55:00 2010
From: ssaw at mchsi.com (Sara & Wayne Steiner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:55:00 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.11733.1277255361.9697.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <13D28373B78E4236832015E3C484889A@saraPC>




From ssaw at mchsi.com  Thu Jun 24 13:07:15 2010
From: ssaw at mchsi.com (Sara & Wayne Steiner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:07:15 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.11733.1277255361.9697.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <00A5688B3CEE415BA70831F05B7EB893@saraPC>

Hi Don

I also have those R9 ssb articles and have been tempted to see if I could 
successfully duplicate it.  I have a number open 1920s AF  transformers for 
rewinding for the filters..To many projects.  It might be fun to put a 1933 
ssb rig on the air.  A mid 30s Radio News has a receiver article using a 
simple crystal lattice filter.  Anyway, as you say, this stuff didn't gain 
attention untill the late 40s.

Wayne , N0TE 



From ka4rfa at comporium.net  Thu Jun 24 13:06:06 2010
From: ka4rfa at comporium.net (KA4RFA)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:06:06 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
References: <mailman.11733.1277255361.9697.amradio@mailman.qth.net><2F686145D60F4DDB9BE9DE0E73DA7E19@D65Y8B21>
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Message-ID: <7922EAAA8D56476184F958F35EFEC95C@jimoffice>

nothing was posted--need to resend

Jim


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From: "Sara & Wayne Steiner" <ssaw at mchsi.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Antennas


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From tonne at comcast.net  Thu Jun 24 13:42:05 2010
From: tonne at comcast.net (Jim Tonne)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:42:05 -0400
Subject: [AMRadio] Antennas
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Don, Wayne:

Do you have the schematic of the sideband
filter you could send to me?  I'd love to run it
through an analysis program to see the
frequency response.

- Jim Tonne   W4ENE





From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sat Jun 26 10:04:47 2010
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:04:47 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] HELP!
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Ted  I do not.I know there are bunches of Audio Mods for the DX100. The best
place to go is the AM Group. amradio at mailman.qth.net

You will need to go into QTH and subscribe. Those guys are the greatest on
that stuff.have not seen any listings on E Bay in ages from you.

I have been buying mics like a drunkin sailor  LOL Just got an RE27 for
$275. what a deal.Keep in touch Ted.

 

Bob W1PE

 

From: Ted Arnold [mailto:toarnold at insightbb.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:18 AM
To: rwpeters at swbell.net
Subject: HELP!

 

Good Morning Bob.

 

I have a question that you may be able to help with.

I am looking for a PTT mod for the DX-100 that I am in the process of
getting on the air.

Intertnet searches only return several mentioning the mod, but I cant seem
to find much more than that.

OR, should I just use the old dow key and switch the plate??

Any help on the subject would be greatly appreciated, possibly some other
mods out there to inject some low level audio into this old BA?? Websites
that would be helpful??

 

Thanks in advance for your time!

 

73  Ted

k9toa

 

 


