He's strong into Ms. So is Ve6CQ on 21.410. I also worked Frank, Ve5YD, on 21.419. He was running an HB 807 with 6l6 modulators. There's lots of room if we claim it before the band really gets hot. If we wait, we have the same real-estate battles we have on the lower bands. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs