[AMRadio] Old Ham, New AM Enthusiast

[rbethman]

Jerry,

You are getting good advice - so far!

One other made comment regarding the Apache.  It has a "well earned" 
nickname. * Scratchy Apache *

It take a bunch of work reworking the audio circuitry to make it sound 
like "you" REALLY sound.

It also REALLY needs negative feedback added in.

I would advise you to get another amp again, in lieu of getting the 
Apache/Warrior/an the SSB adapter!

You would do far better with the Icom and an amp!

Yep!  Go to NEARFEST!

Listen to the "Tall Ships", (BIG Signals), on the AM mode.  Listen to 
the sound.

The Apache WON'T do that without a BUNCH of work!  And if that work 
isn't done right, you WILL get visits from neighbors!

Bob - (Been there done that, got no stinkin' T-Shirt) N0DGN

On 12/27/2010 1:06 PM, Jerry Colton wrote:
> Hello and Holy Cow.... hi hi
>  Thank you Fella's for all the great responses. I had a feeling that 
> there was a lot more to AMing than just flipping the mode switch!
> The one thing I see in almost all the responses is the mention of an 
> amp. I have owned one amp in all my years and just traded it for a 
> tower for the new QTH. However, the Apache/Mohalk  station I am 
> looking at also comes with a Warrior amp. I really have my heart set 
> on it but I may take the advice of Rob and wait till the NEARFEST get 
> together and hopefully by that time I'll have a bit more knowledge on 
> exactly what to by.
> In any event, I certainly do appreciate all the emails and advice. I 
> just stuck a note on my desk and will listen in on 3870 on next 
> Sunday. I'll also monitor the AM windows for activity.
> Here's a pic of the station I am Very interested 
> <http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/N1TKO/?action=view&current=876644.jpg>
>
> Thanks again guys and I look forward to running into each of you on 
> the AM bands!
> 73
> Jerry - N1TKO
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "Jerry Colton" <cornerman at comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:05:03 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Old Ham, New AM Enthusiast
>
> Jerry,
>
> The 40watts sounds perhaps a "tad" high.  Most likely a "good" carrier
> level would be closer to 20 to 25 watts.
>
> There is activity on 160 mtrs, 80 mtrs, and 40 mtrs.
>
> *IF* you have an amplifier, then you can feed the AM from the Icom into
> a pair of 3-500Zs and do FAR better than an Apache will do.  The Apache
> is a 100W tx.  20 - 25 watts into a pair of 3-500Zs will get you a
> carrier REAL close to the maximum allowed by the FCC Part 97.
>
> AM is a whole different breed!  We have our discussions and debates,
> both here on this list - AND - on the air.
>
> Welcome to the group!  You will get a BOATLOAD of ideas and
> suggestions.  Some great, some not so great.
>
> Ya gets what ya paid for!  [ROTFLMAO]
>
> I like your QSL card that is loaded on QRZ!
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 12/27/2010 11:27 AM, Jerry Colton wrote:
> > Hello to all
> > Maybe changing the subject may help... hi hi. I am new to AMPhone. I 
> have been a ham for almost 40 years but have only worked the AM mode 2 
> or 3 times and that was just recently. I have been so impressed over 
> the years by the sounds of many of the stations using AM. By "sounds" 
> I mean the quality. I also have found that the majority of the AM'ers 
> are very interesting to listen to. I'd like to learn all about the 
> mode as I'm sure there are differences compared to using SSB.
> > I'll get to the point here.... I have an Icom 746pro and have worked 
> 2 fellows on AM. Of course, I can only use 40 watts with my 746pro. Is 
> there any nets or regular gatherings for rag-chews? I have my eye on 
> an AM station (Apache/Warrior) that I plan on buying soon and would 
> like to get more involved with you folks and using AM. I, like many 
> others, are looking for a change of pace because of the terrible 
> conditions on the HF bands. I also think it may be a good opportunity 
> to meet local guys and make a few new friends. I am new to the area 
> here in Haverhill Massachusetts.
> > Any tips, tricks, info, etc..... would be much appreciated.
> > Thank you and best 73
> > Jerry - N1TKO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "Jerry Colton" <cornerman at comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:05:03 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Old Ham, New AM Enthusiast
>
> Jerry,
>
> The 40watts sounds perhaps a "tad" high.  Most likely a "good" carrier
> level would be closer to 20 to 25 watts.
>
> There is activity on 160 mtrs, 80 mtrs, and 40 mtrs.
>
> *IF* you have an amplifier, then you can feed the AM from the Icom into
> a pair of 3-500Zs and do FAR better than an Apache will do.  The Apache
> is a 100W tx.  20 - 25 watts into a pair of 3-500Zs will get you a
> carrier REAL close to the maximum allowed by the FCC Part 97.
>
> AM is a whole different breed!  We have our discussions and debates,
> both here on this list - AND - on the air.
>
> Welcome to the group!  You will get a BOATLOAD of ideas and
> suggestions.  Some great, some not so great.
>
> Ya gets what ya paid for!  [ROTFLMAO]
>
> I like your QSL card that is loaded on QRZ!
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> On 12/27/2010 11:27 AM, Jerry Colton wrote:
> > Hello to all
> > Maybe changing the subject may help... hi hi. I am new to AMPhone. I 
> have been a ham for almost 40 years but have only worked the AM mode 2 
> or 3 times and that was just recently. I have been so impressed over 
> the years by the sounds of many of the stations using AM. By "sounds" 
> I mean the quality. I also have found that the majority of the AM'ers 
> are very interesting to listen to. I'd like to learn all about the 
> mode as I'm sure there are differences compared to using SSB.
> > I'll get to the point here.... I have an Icom 746pro and have worked 
> 2 fellows on AM. Of course, I can only use 40 watts with my 746pro. Is 
> there any nets or regular gatherings for rag-chews? I have my eye on 
> an AM station (Apache/Warrior) that I plan on buying soon and would 
> like to get more involved with you folks and using AM. I, like many 
> others, are looking for a change of pace because of the terrible 
> conditions on the HF bands. I also think it may be a good opportunity 
> to meet local guys and make a few new friends. I am new to the area 
> here in Haverhill Massachusetts.
> > Any tips, tricks, info, etc..... would be much appreciated.
> > Thank you and best 73
> > Jerry - N1TKO
>

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