From ranickel at comcast.net  Sun Feb  1 00:13:16 2009
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:13:16 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] BroadcastHistory - Home Page
Message-ID: <49852F6C.70209@comcast.net>

I came across this (new to me) archive of broadcast equpment 
documentation and thought it would be worth sharing: 

http://louise.hallikainen.org/BroadcastHistory/index.php/HomePage

Interesting historical links and others, too.

73, Bob W9RAN



From wa9vrh at dishmail.net  Sun Feb  1 07:33:27 2009
From: wa9vrh at dishmail.net (Larry WA9VRH)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:33:27 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] First Wednesday CCA AM Night Feb 4th!
Message-ID: <005b01c9846a$38c368a0$d80b1aa5@KWM380>

FIRST WEDNESDAY AM NIGHT!!! Sponsored by the Collins Collectors Association.

Wednesday February 4th, 2009 on 3880 kcs at 7:00 PM local East Coast time 
marks the start of the latest
chapter of First Wednesday AM Night, drawing hundreds of vintage stations 
from across the country.

The East Coast and Central sections run for 90 minutes in response to the 
tremendous participation in those time zones. The remaining time zones
will be an hour. We encourage stations to check-in on AM using Collins and 
other AM transmitters, new and
old.  It's an opportunity to revel in this nostalgic mode, enjoy giving 
vintage equipment a "run," and sharing
some storytelling about classic vacuum tube homebrew and commercial designs. 
Typically more than a
hundred stations take part in the evening's coast-to-coast AM event; by the 
time it concludes at 10:00 PM
Local PST.

LISTEN for the following anchors and stop by to say hello, won't you? You 
don't have to be running Collins
or vintage gear to be welcomed into the group.

7:00 PM-8:30 PM Local East Coast Time Anchor:  Bob W0YVA

7:30 PM-9:00 PM Local Central Time Anchor:  Jim W0NKL and Brian K0EFJ

8:00 PM-9:00 PM Local Mountain Time Anchor: K0OJ Jim and Chuck KD0ZS

8:00 PM-9:00 PM Local West Coast Time Anchor:  WA6FIZ Mickey

We are still looking for additional anchors in the West Coast time zone. 
Please contact me if you are interested!

comments please to wa9vrh at dishmail.net 


From crawfish at surfmore.net  Sun Feb  1 08:30:43 2009
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (Joe Crawford)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:30:43 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] BroadcastHistory - Home Page
References: <49852F6C.70209@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E6A26C402E7F41E4954FA9BA5EB5C1A1@homevs5lb1pw9n>

That is a great site. Right now he has the site down for maintenance.
                                                                             
Joe W4AAB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Nickels" <ranickel at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] BroadcastHistory - Home Page


>I came across this (new to me) archive of broadcast equpment
> documentation and thought it would be worth sharing:
>
> http://louise.hallikainen.org/BroadcastHistory/index.php/HomePage
>
> Interesting historical links and others, too.
>
> 73, Bob W9RAN
>
>
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From k2ki at starc.org  Sun Feb  1 15:37:01 2009
From: k2ki at starc.org (Bob Bruno - K2KI)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:37:01 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction site
Message-ID: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>

Hi all,

First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.

Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The 
seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been 
problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my 
first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.

But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a 
poke either...

The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go 
for it?

Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my 
deepest apologies.

73, cul...
Bob de k2ki


From w3slk at verizon.net  Sun Feb  1 15:40:04 2009
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:40:04 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
	site
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <8B39AE5924B44842BF30F50F9AAB4130@FAMILY>

I don't know, Bob. I think its a valid question for this forum. All I will 
say is "Caveat Emptor!"
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Bruno - K2KI" <k2ki at starc.org>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction site


Hi all,

First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.

Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The
seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been
problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my
first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.

But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a
poke either...

The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go
for it?

Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my
deepest apologies.

73, cul...
Bob de k2ki




From rickb at tx.rr.com  Sun Feb  1 15:44:24 2009
From: rickb at tx.rr.com (Rick)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:44:24 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
	site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <5A257058B9564D3D92765195CC3096C6@main>

Bob.. you'll hear many horror stories about Martyn, but personallly, I
have bought several items from him through the years and have no
complaints at all. I always got exactly what he described. I am likely
in the minority, but that's my experience.

Rick/K5IAR


Hi all,

First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was
unsure.

Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The 
seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been 
problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my 
first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.

But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a 
poke either...

The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go 
for it?

Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my 
deepest apologies.

73, cul...
Bob de k2ki


From macklinbob at msn.com  Sun Feb  1 15:46:03 2009
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:46:03 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the
	Auctionsite
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
	<8B39AE5924B44842BF30F50F9AAB4130@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV326E15B2E02A8E556F2A68C5C40@phx.gbl>

Radio-Mart is one of the worst crooks on eBay. If you are smart you will not
bid on his auctions.

A few years ago I bought a Heath HM-15 from him. I got it for the minimum
$10 bid. The unit I received was not the unit he had the photo of. The one I
received had a broken meter. And it was not damaged in the mail.

He used to post retaliatory feedback against buyers that gave him negative
feedback. He can't do that anymore.

But he current feedback score you see is not his total negative feedback. It
is only for the last 12 months. You have to look deep to see how bad he
really is.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Kent (Seattle), Wa,
"Real Radios Glow in the Dark"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Sawyer" <w3slk at verizon.net>
To: <k2ki at starc.org>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the
Auctionsite


> I don't know, Bob. I think its a valid question for this forum. All I will
> say is "Caveat Emptor!"
> Mod-U-Lator,
> Mike(y)
> W3SLK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Bruno - K2KI" <k2ki at starc.org>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:37 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
site
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.
>
> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The
> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been
> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my
> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.
>
> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a
> poke either...
>
> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go
> for it?
>
> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my
> deepest apologies.
>
> 73, cul...
> Bob de k2ki
>
>
>
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From sbjohnston at aol.com  Sun Feb  1 16:15:22 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:15:22 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
	site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <8CB52C953D18192-E68-34E@WEBMAIL-DY19.sysops.aol.com>


Be careful - "radiomart" is often reported to not provide the same unit 
as shown in his auction photos.  I sometimes bid on his items but do so 
with the understanding that I might not get as good a unit as in the 
pictures.  I therefore only bid quite low and let the deal get away if 
the bidding goes higher.

Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
-----------------------------------------------------
Radio is your best entertainment value.
-----------------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Bruno - K2KI <k2ki at starc.org>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 2:37 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction 
site

Hi all,

First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was 
unsure.

Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The
seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been
problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my
first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.

But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a
poke either...

The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go
for it?

Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my
deepest apologies.

73, cul...
Bob de k2ki

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From w5jo at brightok.net  Sun Feb  1 16:15:54 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:15:54 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
	site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <1B6A338CF9DB4894B8BA1BE9194E977B@JimPC>

It is ok to ask this kind of question is my feelings, you are 
discussing a piece of AM equipment.  However.....and this is 
directed to anyone who responds.....please refrain from posting 
anything that can be considered slander.

I know this will put a damper on the description of some of the 
deals he may or may not have been involved in purveying, but no one 
here wants to be sued, especially me.  You may say if you were 
satisfied or not, but please don't call him any names.

I have seen some of the deals he has completed and I definitely 
would not buy from him.

Jim/W5JO
Moderator



----- Original Message ----- 



> Hi all,
>
> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was 
> unsure.
>
> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. 
> The
> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have 
> been
> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was 
> my
> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put 
> on AM.
>
> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig 
> in a
> poke either...
>
> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should 
> I go
> for it?
>
> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my
> deepest apologies.
>
> 73, cul...
> Bob de k2ki


From mparkinson1 at socal.rr.com  Sun Feb  1 16:26:17 2009
From: mparkinson1 at socal.rr.com (mparkinson1)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:26:17 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the
	Auctionsite
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
	<1B6A338CF9DB4894B8BA1BE9194E977B@JimPC>
Message-ID: <B006FF4212C345BCB1295BD1BCF5BD6E@MATT>

I can only say I sold him a ICOM R 71 and he told me he got it damaged and I 
ask him what was wrong he stated it didn't power up and wanted his money 
back.
I told him send the receiver back first and let me see the damage or call 
UPS and I will start a claim.
The next thing I know the receiver was back with me.
I open the receiver and found that power supply board was not the same one I 
had just repaired it was missing parts and broken in half.
The deal was he took my supply out that was working correctly and put his 
defective one in.
I am only guessing he had one with more options installed because a week 
later he had a R 71 loaded with options and I was out everything.
I filed claim with UPS but the problem was it was not in the original box I 
shipped it in also the original box was foamed packed and the box I got back 
was smaller and had very few peanuts.
So you folks out that that deal with him good luck.
If he has changed his image, I don't know.
 I never let him bid on anything of mine ever again.
And I surley won't bid on anything of his.
It your call just be careful.

Matt Parkinson Military Equipment & R 390A Depot Center 



From ken.sands at cavtel.net  Sun Feb  1 16:46:32 2009
From: ken.sands at cavtel.net (Ken Sands)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:46:32 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
	site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <6405973d0902011346td022811xc8d07a9d3354927b@mail.gmail.com>

I have heard on 75 meters AM of bad transactions with him, equipment was
misrepresented as to condition. I would buy from a private source before I
would deal with him.

Again Caveat Emptor!

Ken K*TFD

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Bob Bruno - K2KI <k2ki at starc.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.
>
> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The
> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been
> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my
> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.
>
> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a
> poke either...
>
> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go
> for it?
>
> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my
> deepest apologies.
>
> 73, cul...
> Bob de k2ki
>
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From wrl at gwltd.com  Sun Feb  1 16:50:39 2009
From: wrl at gwltd.com (Dave Mayfield W9WRL)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:50:39 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
 site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <4986192F.4040503@gwltd.com>

I have no experience with radiomart, but I've never heard anything good 
and have heard tons of bad. Seems to me that with all the bad things 
we've all heard about him, a smart man would stay clear.

W9WRL

Bob Bruno - K2KI wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.
>
> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The 
> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been 
> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my 
> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.
>
> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a 
> poke either...
>
> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go 
> for it?
>
> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my 
> deepest apologies.
>
> 73, cul...
> Bob de k2ki
>
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 17:59:31 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:59:31 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
	site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510902011459j3f936463w15df8e0f2afecaf2@mail.gmail.com>

I would strongly suggest you do some searching via Google etc and see
what you turn up, Bob. As others have indicated, there are indeed some
issues to be aware of. Toolhaus is your friend, though I suspect
you'll turn up more than enough info to answer any questions you have.

~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Bob Bruno - K2KI <k2ki at starc.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.
>
> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The
> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been
> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my
> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.
>
> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a
> poke either...
>
> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go
> for it?
>
> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my
> deepest apologies.
>
> 73, cul...
> Bob de k2ki
>
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From k2ki at starc.org  Sun Feb  1 18:35:13 2009
From: k2ki at starc.org (Bob Bruno - K2KI)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:35:13 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Viking II's on e-Auction (Follow-up)
Message-ID: <498631B1.6050207@starc.org>

Hi again all,

I would like to thank all those whom replied to be both on and off list. 
I guess the consensus is to save my money are time and deal with those 
more local to me.

I appreciate everyones comments and am glad that I had the presence of 
mind to ask the question. Most times often than not, Over the years, I 
have displayed the tendency to impulse buy. If you were to look in my 
basement, garage and storage shed, you would agree. :-) Now days, I am 
on a very restrictive fixed income so buying a potential problem does 
not make good sense. Thanks for saving me from myself!!!

73 and tks agn...
Bob de k2ki


From w5jo at brightok.net  Sun Feb  1 19:04:00 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:04:00 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the
	Auctionsite
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902011459j3f936463w15df8e0f2afecaf2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
	<9ccb8c510902011459j3f936463w15df8e0f2afecaf2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F339A3B70B1149DEADA4A6E6BC98FEFB@JimPC>

Bob, if you can be patient then you will find an example of what you 
want most likely from an individual that represents it well.  I do 
understand the impulse buying and it took me retiring and living on 
a fixed income to stop most of the impulses.

Watch ebay, unless you deal with someone who uses their call sign in 
the ID, you never know who is behind the trade.  The person you have 
mentioned has had several different ID's in the past.  So watch and 
look carefully.

I don't know if you subscribe to the various lists that post for 
sale ads or not, but it is a good idea to watch those.

Jim/W5JO




> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Bob Bruno - K2KI <k2ki at starc.org> 
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I 
>> was unsure.
>>
>> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. 
>> The
>> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have 
>> been
>> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was 
>> my
>> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put 
>> on AM.
>>
>> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig 
>> in a
>> poke either...
>>
>> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should 
>> I go
>> for it?
>>
>> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer 
>> my
>> deepest apologies.
>>
>> 73, cul...
>> Bob de k2ki
>>


From k9ux at mchsi.com  Sun Feb  1 19:35:03 2009
From: k9ux at mchsi.com (Dave K9UX)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:35:03 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on theAuctionsite
In-Reply-To: <B006FF4212C345BCB1295BD1BCF5BD6E@MATT>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org><1B6A338CF9DB4894B8BA1BE9194E977B@JimPC>
	<B006FF4212C345BCB1295BD1BCF5BD6E@MATT>
Message-ID: <A06B2B7D25CF4F8785D39B4EF25BA43A@QZepher>

I know for a fact that he has been repremanded by E-bay for bidding on his 
own items with different user names.

Be careful with this guy !!!!

Dave K9UX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mparkinson1" <mparkinson1 at socal.rr.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on 
theAuctionsite


>I can only say I sold him a ICOM R 71 and he told me he got it damaged and 
>I
> ask him what was wrong he stated it didn't power up and wanted his money
> back.
> I told him send the receiver back first and let me see the damage or call
> UPS and I will start a claim.
> The next thing I know the receiver was back with me.
> I open the receiver and found that power supply board was not the same one 
> I
> had just repaired it was missing parts and broken in half.
> The deal was he took my supply out that was working correctly and put his
> defective one in.
> I am only guessing he had one with more options installed because a week
> later he had a R 71 loaded with options and I was out everything.
> I filed claim with UPS but the problem was it was not in the original box 
> I
> shipped it in also the original box was foamed packed and the box I got 
> back
> was smaller and had very few peanuts.
> So you folks out that that deal with him good luck.
> If he has changed his image, I don't know.
> I never let him bid on anything of mine ever again.
> And I surley won't bid on anything of his.
> It your call just be careful.
>
> Matt Parkinson Military Equipment & R 390A Depot Center
>
>
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From k9ux at mchsi.com  Sun Feb  1 19:35:03 2009
From: k9ux at mchsi.com (Dave K9UX)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:35:03 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on theAuctionsite
In-Reply-To: <B006FF4212C345BCB1295BD1BCF5BD6E@MATT>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org><1B6A338CF9DB4894B8BA1BE9194E977B@JimPC>
	<B006FF4212C345BCB1295BD1BCF5BD6E@MATT>
Message-ID: <E02236FFBA9747C48622D22818FC2749@QZepher>

I know for a fact that he has been repremanded by E-bay for bidding on his 
own items with different user names.

Be careful with this guy !!!!

Dave K9UX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mparkinson1" <mparkinson1 at socal.rr.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on 
theAuctionsite


>I can only say I sold him a ICOM R 71 and he told me he got it damaged and 
>I
> ask him what was wrong he stated it didn't power up and wanted his money
> back.
> I told him send the receiver back first and let me see the damage or call
> UPS and I will start a claim.
> The next thing I know the receiver was back with me.
> I open the receiver and found that power supply board was not the same one 
> I
> had just repaired it was missing parts and broken in half.
> The deal was he took my supply out that was working correctly and put his
> defective one in.
> I am only guessing he had one with more options installed because a week
> later he had a R 71 loaded with options and I was out everything.
> I filed claim with UPS but the problem was it was not in the original box 
> I
> shipped it in also the original box was foamed packed and the box I got 
> back
> was smaller and had very few peanuts.
> So you folks out that that deal with him good luck.
> If he has changed his image, I don't know.
> I never let him bid on anything of mine ever again.
> And I surley won't bid on anything of his.
> It your call just be careful.
>
> Matt Parkinson Military Equipment & R 390A Depot Center
>
>
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From joe_hankins at lexcominc.net  Sun Feb  1 20:42:12 2009
From: joe_hankins at lexcominc.net (J.Hankins)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:42:12 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the Auction
 site
In-Reply-To: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
References: <498607ED.8070100@starc.org>
Message-ID: <49864F74.1000903@lexcominc.net>



Sorry to be late, but I wanted to offer my two cents worth.  My 
experience (several purchases) is that he is consistent. He always 
portrays his stuff as being much better than it actually is, but you can 
usually tell that from his pictures.  By and large, what he calls 
"collector quality" most everybody else calls "as is".  Due to the years 
of bad comments, he rarely gets top dollar for his stuff, and there very 
often are deals to be had because so many people just don't bid at all.  
If you never, ever, take what he says at face value and know what things 
are really worth, you may get lucky. If you are looking for high quality 
stuff that will work out of the box or with minimal work, stay away!!!

Joe
KB1MPY


Bob Bruno - K2KI wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First off, If this should be posted on AMSWAP, My apologies. I was unsure.
>
> Ok... I see two Viking II's for sale on that famous auction site. The 
> seller is Radio-Mart. Am I remembering correctly that there have been 
> problems with him? I really would love to have Viking II. It was my 
> first radio when I got licensed. Besides, it would be nice to put on AM.
>
> But... I don't want to shell out all my disability money on a pig in a 
> poke either...
>
> The auctions end in just over 5 hours... What say you all? Should I go 
> for it?
>
> Again, if this is not being posted to the proper place, I offer my 
> deepest apologies.
>
> 73, cul...
> Bob de k2ki
>
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sun Feb  1 21:06:19 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:06:19 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Dallas Ham Rodger
Message-ID: <02c201c984da$d6e55320$84aff960$@net>

Rodger I have misplaced your call and number???
Give me a call or e mail please.

 

 

Very Best 73's,

 

Bob W1PE

Mesquite,TX

 

http://www.w1pe.com

 

 

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From k5pgw at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  2 21:56:47 2009
From: k5pgw at yahoo.com (John King)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:56:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
Message-ID: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Can anyone direct me to a source of information or a tutorial on Ultrasonic feedback in modulator circuits such as that in the Heathkit Apache.

My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone gain is raised and the modulator tubes draw a lot of current. As long as the microphone gain is kept very LOW the current does not take off and there is no squeal coming from the modulator section. I am going to go through the section with a screwdriver and a nut driver to tighten up the grounds to the chassis and tube socket.

Ultrasonic feedback is a NEW phenomenon to me. Someone mentioned ferrite beads some time back. Thanks for reading. 73, John, K5PGW





      

From macklinbob at msn.com  Mon Feb  2 22:01:37 2009
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:01:37 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
References: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV1500BADD68C8E9C6CF7F4AC5C20@phx.gbl>

Does it happen with the microphone disconnected?

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Kent (Seattle), Wa,
"Real Radios Glow in the Dark"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John King" <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
To: <AMradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:56 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback


> Can anyone direct me to a source of information or a tutorial on
Ultrasonic feedback in modulator circuits such as that in the Heathkit
Apache.
>
> My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone gain is raised and the
modulator tubes draw a lot of current. As long as the microphone gain is
kept very LOW the current does not take off and there is no squeal coming
from the modulator section. I am going to go through the section with a
screwdriver and a nut driver to tighten up the grounds to the chassis and
tube socket.
>
> Ultrasonic feedback is a NEW phenomenon to me. Someone mentioned ferrite
beads some time back. Thanks for reading. 73, John, K5PGW
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From k0ng at inebraska.com  Mon Feb  2 22:16:55 2009
From: k0ng at inebraska.com (k0ng at inebraska.com)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:16:55 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
In-Reply-To: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090202211655.s60kh1py1ws8ssgk@webmail.inebraska.com>


John: If you can hear the squeal, it is not ultrasonic. That would be rare
I think.

Some tubes and their wiring have been known to oscillate at RF frequencies
which may have several "carriers". The difference between these carriers may
land in the audio frequency spectrum and be amplified by the modulator
circuitry. Putting ferrite beads or parasitic chokes in the grids and plates
of the tubes will not harm anything and may cure the problem. I have  
experienced
this before.

Loose nuts and bolts on the audio transformers or loose laminations are a more
likely cause of accoustical feedback.

Bad inter-stage bypass capacitors allowing electrical feedback between stages
is the first place I would check. (B+ by-pass caps near the preamps/drivers).

Good Luck.  Charlie,  K0NG


From k5pgw at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  2 22:27:08 2009
From: k5pgw at yahoo.com (John King)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:27:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
In-Reply-To: <20090202211655.s60kh1py1ws8ssgk@webmail.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <282196.97980.qm@web50406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thanks Charlie. Good input. 73, John, K5PGW


--- On Mon, 2/2/09, k0ng at inebraska.com <k0ng at inebraska.com> wrote:

> From: k0ng at inebraska.com <k0ng at inebraska.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 6:16 PM
> John: If you can hear the squeal, it is not ultrasonic. That
> would be rare
> I think.
> 
> Some tubes and their wiring have been known to oscillate at
> RF frequencies
> which may have several "carriers". The difference
> between these carriers may
> land in the audio frequency spectrum and be amplified by
> the modulator
> circuitry. Putting ferrite beads or parasitic chokes in the
> grids and plates
> of the tubes will not harm anything and may cure the
> problem. I have  
> experienced
> this before.
> 
> Loose nuts and bolts on the audio transformers or loose
> laminations are a more
> likely cause of accoustical feedback.
> 
> Bad inter-stage bypass capacitors allowing electrical
> feedback between stages
> is the first place I would check. (B+ by-pass caps near the
> preamps/drivers).
> 
> Good Luck.  Charlie,  K0NG
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From sbjohnston at aol.com  Tue Feb  3 00:08:52 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:08:52 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
In-Reply-To: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CB53D4A431603A-808-611@FWM-D13.sysops.aol.com>


My Ranger used to do a very similar thing, and the fix in that case was 
to loosen and then retighten all the chassis ground lugs, terminal 
strip mounts, and the like.  Over time the grounds get loose or 
slightly corroded and signals leak around where they shouldn't.

Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
-----------------------------------------------------
Radio is your best entertainment value.
-----------------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
To: AMradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback










Can anyone direct me to a source of information or a tutorial on 
Ultrasonic
feedback in modulator circuits such as that in the Heathkit Apache.

My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone gain is raised and the 
modulator
tubes draw a lot of current. As long as the microphone gain is kept 
very LOW the
current does not take off and there is no squeal coming from the 
modulator
section. I am going to go through the section with a screwdriver and a 
nut
driver to tighten up the grounds to the chassis and tube socket.

Ultrasonic feedback is a NEW phenomenon to me. Someone mentioned 
ferrite beads
some time back. Thanks for reading. 73, John, K5PGW






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From kc8opp at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  3 07:32:38 2009
From: kc8opp at yahoo.com (KC8OPP Roger S.)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:32:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
In-Reply-To: <72520.45030.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <656283.57638.qm@web110709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

John,

Not sure about the Apache, but I do have a Viking II here and the manual tells you to reverse the modulator plate connections if you hear a squeal from the modulation circuit.

Sorry if I am off topic too far.

73's
Roger
KC8OPP



--- On Mon, 2/2/09, John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> To: AMradio at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 9:56 PM
> Can anyone direct me to a source of information or a
> tutorial on Ultrasonic feedback in modulator circuits such
> as that in the Heathkit Apache.
> 
> My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone gain is
> raised and the modulator tubes draw a lot of current. As
> long as the microphone gain is kept very LOW the current
> does not take off and there is no squeal coming from the
> modulator section. I am going to go through the section with
> a screwdriver and a nut driver to tighten up the grounds to
> the chassis and tube socket.
> 
> Ultrasonic feedback is a NEW phenomenon to me. Someone
> mentioned ferrite beads some time back. Thanks for reading.
> 73, John, K5PGW
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ne1s at neandertech.com  Tue Feb  3 08:47:32 2009
From: ne1s at neandertech.com (Larry Szendrei)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:47:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
Message-ID: <1233668852.v2.mailanyonewebmail-243661@fuse113>

> My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone gain is raised
> and the modulator tubes draw a lot of current. As long as the
> microphone gain is kept very LOW the current does not take off
> and there is no squeal coming from the modulator section. I am
> going to go through the section with a screwdriver and a
> nut driver to tighten up the grounds to the chassis and tube
> socket.

In my experience the most common cause of these symptoms isn't feedback
within the modulator itself, but RF rectification somewhere in the audio
chain prior to the gain pot. Generally this is an indication of too much
RF in the shack. I had this problem when I was using balanced line and a
non-optimal tuner for this situation, creating imbalance in the system and
subsequent radiation from the feedline. I have since built myself a proper
balanced tuner at that operating position which has eliminated the
problem.

You can try wrapping the microphone cable around a ferrite or powdered
iron core of the type used for RF filtering. Usually 3-4 turns will take
care of it if it's going to at all. Put the core as close to the mike jack
at the transmitter as you can. Trying a different style of microphone can
also help. If you are running an EQ and/or processing ahead of the
microphone input these devices can also be susceptible to RF
rectification.

73/GL,
-Larry/NE1S

From ne1s at neandertech.com  Tue Feb  3 08:55:16 2009
From: ne1s at neandertech.com (Larry Szendrei)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:55:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
Message-ID: <1233669316.v2.mailanyonewebmail-243661@fuse113>


> In my experience the most common cause of these symptoms isn't feedback
> within the modulator itself, but RF rectification somewhere in the audio
> chain prior to the gain pot.

I also wanted to add: you can determine if this is the problem by testing
the transmitter into a proper dummy load (i.e., not a light bulb, which
will radiate to some degree). If the squeal goes away, or if you need to
advance the audio gain considerably further for it to appear, it's
probably RF rectification that's your problem.

-Larry/NE1S

From manualman at juno.com  Tue Feb  3 12:54:38 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:54:38 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
Message-ID: <20090203.125438.3556.0.manualman@juno.com>

The front panel "gain" control is for the speech clipping gain. If you
turn it up too high, depending on the setting of the "real" audio gain
control which is located behind the key jack, the modulator will squeal.
This is barring any other electrical or component issues.

Pete, wa2cwa
http://www.manualman.com

> 
> --- On Mon, 2/2/09, John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> > To: AMradio at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 9:56 PM
> > Can anyone direct me to a source of information or a
> > tutorial on Ultrasonic feedback in modulator circuits such
> > as that in the Heathkit Apache.
> > 
> > My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone gain is
> > raised and the modulator tubes draw a lot of current. As
> > long as the microphone gain is kept very LOW the current
> > does not take off and there is no squeal coming from the
> > modulator section. I am going to go through the section with
> > a screwdriver and a nut driver to tighten up the grounds to
> > the chassis and tube socket.
> > 
> > Ultrasonic feedback is a NEW phenomenon to me. Someone
> > mentioned ferrite beads some time back. Thanks for reading.
> > 73, John, K5PGW

From k5pgw at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  3 14:11:56 2009
From: k5pgw at yahoo.com (John King)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:11:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
In-Reply-To: <20090203.125438.3556.0.manualman@juno.com>
Message-ID: <476577.71294.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There is NO Clipper circuit in this Apache. The clipper tube was removed and the tube socket is empty. This seems to be what many did as a modification. I did have the redrawn schematic showing the mod but have misplaced it. Thanks for the assistance. 73, john, k5PGW 


--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com> wrote:

> From: Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:54 AM
> The front panel "gain" control is for the speech
> clipping gain. If you
> turn it up too high, depending on the setting of the
> "real" audio gain
> control which is located behind the key jack, the modulator
> will squeal.
> This is barring any other electrical or component issues.
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> http://www.manualman.com
> 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> > > To: AMradio at mailman.qth.net
> > > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 9:56 PM
> > > Can anyone direct me to a source of information
> or a
> > > tutorial on Ultrasonic feedback in modulator
> circuits such
> > > as that in the Heathkit Apache.
> > > 
> > > My Apache modulator squeals when the microphone
> gain is
> > > raised and the modulator tubes draw a lot of
> current. As
> > > long as the microphone gain is kept very LOW the
> current
> > > does not take off and there is no squeal coming
> from the
> > > modulator section. I am going to go through the
> section with
> > > a screwdriver and a nut driver to tighten up the
> grounds to
> > > the chassis and tube socket.
> > > 
> > > Ultrasonic feedback is a NEW phenomenon to me.
> Someone
> > > mentioned ferrite beads some time back. Thanks
> for reading.
> > > 73, John, K5PGW
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From manualman at juno.com  Tue Feb  3 15:16:34 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:16:34 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
Message-ID: <20090203.151634.3556.4.manualman@juno.com>

Pulling the clipper tube just removes the diode action. It doesn't
eliminate the pass-through connections. Does this Apache modulator still
have two adjustable controls (one labeled Gain on the front panel and one
labeled Level, which was behind the key jack)? If Level control (adjusts
audio drive to the 12BY7) is set to high,  any clockwise adjustment
(beyond a few degrees above the off point)  of the front panel control
can set the second half of the 12AU7 and 12BY7/EL34s into oscillation. Of
course, a major modulator mod that might have been done (parts pulled,
new parts, changed wiring, etc.) may have turned these two controls into
different functions from what they were originally intended to be.

Pete, wa2cwa
http://www.manualman.com



On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:11:56 -0800 (PST) John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
writes:
> There is NO Clipper circuit in this Apache. The clipper tube was 
> removed and the tube socket is empty. This seems to be what many did 
> as a modification. I did have the redrawn schematic showing the mod 
> but have misplaced it. Thanks for the assistance. 73, john, k5PGW 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:54 AM
> > The front panel "gain" control is for the speech
> > clipping gain. If you
> > turn it up too high, depending on the setting of the
> > "real" audio gain
> > control which is located behind the key jack, the modulator
> > will squeal.
> > This is barring any other electrical or component issues.
> > 
> > Pete, wa2cwa
> > http://www.manualman.com

From manualman at juno.com  Tue Feb  3 15:20:25 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:20:25 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
Message-ID: <20090203.152025.3556.7.manualman@juno.com>

 Note: in my text below, I meant to say 12BY7 and 6CA7/EL34s.
Pete
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:16:34 -0500 Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
writes:
> Pulling the clipper tube just removes the diode action. It doesn't 
> eliminate the pass-through connections. Does this Apache modulator 
> still have two adjustable controls (one labeled Gain on the front 
> panel and one labeled Level, which was behind the key jack)? If 
> Level control (adjusts audio drive to the 12BY7) is set to high,  
> any clockwise adjustment (beyond a few degrees above the off point)  
> of the front panel control can set the second half of the 12AU7 and 
> 12BY7/EL34s into oscillation. Of course, a major modulator mod that 
> might have been done (parts pulled, new parts, changed wiring, etc.) 
> may have turned these two controls into different functions from 
> what they were originally intended to be.
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> http://www.manualman.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:11:56 -0800 (PST) John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com> 
> writes:
> > There is NO Clipper circuit in this Apache. The clipper tube was 
> > removed and the tube socket is empty. This seems to be what many 
> did 
> > as a modification. I did have the redrawn schematic showing the 
> mod 
> > but have misplaced it. Thanks for the assistance. 73, john, k5PGW 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ultrasonic feedback
> > > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:54 AM
> > > The front panel "gain" control is for the speech
> > > clipping gain. If you
> > > turn it up too high, depending on the setting of the
> > > "real" audio gain
> > > control which is located behind the key jack, the modulator
> > > will squeal.
> > > This is barring any other electrical or component issues.
> > > 
> > > Pete, wa2cwa
> > > http://www.manualman.com  
 

From k4kyv at charter.net  Wed Feb  4 11:53:30 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:53:30 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Question about Seller of Viking II's on the
References: <mailman.79.1233594012.10121.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <003401c986e9$1c2134d0$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>

I have never dealt with that guy, but over the years I have heard little but 
negative comments and complaints.  He apperantly is a well-known ripoff 
artist.  One person said they sent him a piece of equipment but somethig 
about the deal fell through, so they both agreed that they would cancel the 
deal and he would ship it back to the seller.  When the unit arrived, the 
seller noticed that some of the parts inside the radio had been replaced 
with defective ones.

I  wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole.

Don k4kyv 


From jc at pctechref.com  Wed Feb  4 14:05:01 2009
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:05:01 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <003401c986e9$1c2134d0$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.79.1233594012.10121.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<003401c986e9$1c2134d0$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE4019575DE8921@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>

I-net Provider change to an Exhange Server.  Does Email to AMRadio still work?

John, WA5BXO

From tchesek at epix.net  Wed Feb  4 14:08:17 2009
From: tchesek at epix.net (Tom Chesek)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:08:17 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <mailman.79.1233594012.10121.amradio@mailman.qth.net><003401c986e9$1c2134d0$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
	<689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE4019575DE8921@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>
Message-ID: <CEF5766CA6E4460E981C2BA0A776CC08@bonton01.bonton.com>

We are not doing tests today, only quizzes to prepare for tests.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Coleman" <jc at pctechref.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST


> I-net Provider change to an Exhange Server.  Does Email to AMRadio still 
> work?
>
> John, WA5BXO
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From jc at pctechref.com  Wed Feb  4 14:09:13 2009
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:09:13 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <CEF5766CA6E4460E981C2BA0A776CC08@bonton01.bonton.com>
References: <mailman.79.1233594012.10121.amradio@mailman.qth.net><003401c986e9$1c2134d0$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
	<689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE4019575DE8921@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>
	<CEF5766CA6E4460E981C2BA0A776CC08@bonton01.bonton.com>
Message-ID: <689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE4019575DE8924@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>

tnx Tom, Ineeded a chuckle
John

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Chesek
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:08 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST

We are not doing tests today, only quizzes to prepare for tests.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Coleman" <jc at pctechref.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST


> I-net Provider change to an Exhange Server.  Does Email to AMRadio still
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> John, WA5BXO
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From kd5cpl at swbell.net  Wed Feb  4 18:24:40 2009
From: kd5cpl at swbell.net (Gary L Carson)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:24:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Thank you to those who responded
Message-ID: <890345.96715.qm@web80507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




I would like to thank all of you that responded to my earlier post about why I have not been on the air because I am currently disabled.? I want to thank you for taking your time to express your sympathy even though I have never met any of you face-to-face.



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From k4kyv at charter.net  Thu Feb  5 13:01:54 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:01:54 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <mailman.109.1233853215.18054.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000501c987bb$d4f5c340$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>

>From: "Tom Chesek" <tchesek at epix.net

> We are not doing tests today, only quizzes to prepare for tests.

According to what I have monitored on 75m, the way you are supposed to do 
tests over the air is to (1) connect the crappiest sounding microphone you 
can find, (2) put your transmitter in SSB mode, (3) turn your audio up as 
high as it will go, way past the point of distortion, turn on your leenyar, 
making sure the blower noise comes  through loudly enough to make the meter 
read at  least half-scale, then (4) tranmit, yelling into the microphone: 
"Audio - audio -audio - aaaauuuuuuudio"

You can be assured that another SSB op will come back to you and tell you 
what a good sounding signal you have.  :-)


Don k4kyv





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From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Thu Feb  5 13:07:53 2009
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:07:53 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] WTB:
Message-ID: <0KEL001BWUD2YUC0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>

Still looking for a xtal calibrator for the HRO 60.  Please!
 
Phil
 

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LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
www.instantgourmetspices.com <http://www.instantgourmetspices.com/> 

www.w9dvm.com <http://www.w9dvm.com/>  
800-395-7795 pin 02 
727-944-3226 
FAX 727-937-8834 
NASFT 30210 

K3  #1605
W9DVM 




From w5jo at brightok.net  Thu Feb  5 13:09:44 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:09:44 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <000501c987bb$d4f5c340$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.109.1233853215.18054.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<000501c987bb$d4f5c340$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <92D0D5ED91A84D1CA96B9A48D95CBE55@JimPC>

Occasionally between the words "audio" you whistle then repeat ad 
infinitum.  Heard a guy on 3.897 this morning doing just that.  Must 
have been on the air for 5 mins.  He never said anything after he 
finished.

Jim/W5JO


----- Original Message ----- >
>> We are not doing tests today, only quizzes to prepare for tests.
>
> According to what I have monitored on 75m, the way you are 
> supposed to do
> tests over the air is to (1) connect the crappiest sounding 
> microphone you
> can find, (2) put your transmitter in SSB mode, (3) turn your 
> audio up as
> high as it will go, way past the point of distortion, turn on your 
> leenyar,
> making sure the blower noise comes  through loudly enough to make 
> the meter
> read at  least half-scale, then (4) tranmit, yelling into the 
> microphone:
> "Audio - audio -audio - aaaauuuuuuudio"
>
> You can be assured that another SSB op will come back to you and 
> tell you
> what a good sounding signal you have.  :-)
>
>
> Don k4kyv


From fomularace at comcast.net  Thu Feb  5 13:17:43 2009
From: fomularace at comcast.net (fomularace at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:17:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <000501c987bb$d4f5c340$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <1143152819.1679781233857863929.JavaMail.root@sz0148a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I though you were supposed to say "Hello Skipland? skipland the motorcity breaki'n and standing buy!" 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D. Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net> 
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:01:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST 

>From: "Tom Chesek" <tchesek at epix.net 

> We are not doing tests today, only quizzes to prepare for tests. 

According to what I have monitored on 75m, the way you are supposed to do 
tests over the air is to (1) connect the crappiest sounding microphone you 
can find, (2) put your transmitter in SSB mode, (3) turn your audio up as 
high as it will go, way past the point of distortion, turn on your leenyar, 
making sure the blower noise comes ?through loudly enough to make the meter 
read at ?least half-scale, then (4) tranmit, yelling into the microphone: 
"Audio - audio -audio - aaaauuuuuuudio" 

You can be assured that another SSB op will come back to you and tell you 
what a good sounding signal you have. ?:-) 


Don k4kyv 





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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Thu Feb  5 13:19:08 2009
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:19:08 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <mailman.109.1233853215.18054.amradio@mailman.qth.net><000501c987bb$d4f5c340$6e349f18@D65Y8B21>
	<92D0D5ED91A84D1CA96B9A48D95CBE55@JimPC>
Message-ID: <002001c987be$3cd7ee50$0202a8c0@bernie>

well this is interesting. I have heard the voicing of Auuuudio and actually 
thought it was Spanish for something!  guess this means hello testing 
followed by ID is incorrect, Bernie W8RPW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST


> Occasionally between the words "audio" you whistle then repeat ad
> infinitum.  Heard a guy on 3.897 this morning doing just that.  Must
> have been on the air for 5 mins.  He never said anything after he
> finished.
>
> Jim/W5JO
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- >
>>> We are not doing tests today, only quizzes to prepare for tests.
>>
>> According to what I have monitored on 75m, the way you are
>> supposed to do
>> tests over the air is to (1) connect the crappiest sounding
>> microphone you
>> can find, (2) put your transmitter in SSB mode, (3) turn your
>> audio up as
>> high as it will go, way past the point of distortion, turn on your
>> leenyar,
>> making sure the blower noise comes  through loudly enough to make
>> the meter
>> read at  least half-scale, then (4) tranmit, yelling into the
>> microphone:
>> "Audio - audio -audio - aaaauuuuuuudio"
>>
>> You can be assured that another SSB op will come back to you and
>> tell you
>> what a good sounding signal you have.  :-)
>>
>>
>> Don k4kyv
>
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From esieb at sympatico.ca  Thu Feb  5 13:34:16 2009
From: esieb at sympatico.ca (Ed Sieb)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:34:16 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <1143152819.1679781233857863929.JavaMail.root@sz0148a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3831358B57D6459FE8DD38C9C00@phx.gbl>

That's only immediately after the "audio-audio" test.  And it's  "Howbouddat Skiplan', skiplan', ya gotta copy, c'mawn?".  No wait, that's only the CB AM'ers that do that.  The CB slawbuckets and freebanders improperly use Q signals.  They still use the "audio-audio" test though.

Ed, VA3ES
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

fomularace at comcast.net wrote:
I though you were supposed to say "Hello Skipland  skipland the motorcity 
breaki'n and standing buy!"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don k4kyv wrote"
According to what I have monitored on 75m, the way you are supposed to do 
tests over the air is to (1) connect the crappiest sounding microphone you 
can find, (2) put your transmitter in SSB mode, (3) turn your audio up as 
high as it will go, way past the point of distortion, turn on your leenyar, 
making sure the blower noise comes  through loudly enough to make the meter 
read at  least half-scale, then (4) tranmit, yelling into the microphone: 
"Audio - audio -audio - aaaauuuuuuudio"

You can be assured that another SSB op will come back to you and tell you 
what a good sounding signal you have.  :-)


From sbjohnston at aol.com  Thu Feb  5 13:41:54 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:41:54 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP3831358B57D6459FE8DD38C9C00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CB55D88D38009A-10BC-722@WEBMAIL-DZ09.sysops.aol.com>


>And it's  "Howbouddat Skiplan', skiplan', ya gotta copy, c'mawn?"

It seems strange to me that, on the occasions that I tune a receiver up 
to 11m, I very, very often hear that sort of call, but never hear the 
same people in a conversation with anyone.

Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
-----------------------------------------------------
Radio is your best entertainment value.
-----------------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Sieb <esieb at sympatico.ca>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST










That's only immediately after the "audio-audio" test.  And it's  
"Howbouddat
Skiplan', skiplan', ya gotta copy, c'mawn?".  No wait, that's only the 
CB AM'ers
that do that.  The CB slawbuckets and freebanders improperly use Q 
signals.
They still use the "audio-audio" test though.

Ed, VA3ES
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-

fomularace at comcast.net wrote:
I though you were supposed to say "Hello Skipland  skipland the 
motorcity
breaki'n and standing buy!"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-

Don k4kyv wrote"
According to what I have monitored on 75m, the way you are supposed to 
do
tests over the air is to (1) connect the crappiest sounding microphone 
you
can find, (2) put your transmitter in SSB mode, (3) turn your audio up 
as
high as it will go, way past the point of distortion, turn on your 
leenyar,
making sure the blower noise comes  through loudly enough to make the 
meter
read at  least half-scale, then (4) tranmit, yelling into the 
microphone:
"Audio - audio -audio - aaaauuuuuuudio"

You can be assured that another SSB op will come back to you and tell 
you
what a good sounding signal you have.  :-)

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From esieb at sympatico.ca  Thu Feb  5 13:50:32 2009
From: esieb at sympatico.ca (Ed Sieb)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:50:32 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <8CB55D88D38009A-10BC-722@WEBMAIL-DZ09.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP8727C39D22426CB8C41B85C9C00@phx.gbl>

Hah!  If you really want to hear some "ghost-talking" just listen to 
27.025 anytime the band is open!    I sometimes think those guys are 
yammering, just to hear their own voices.   Lot's of calling out, but 
no conversation that I can discern!

Ed, VA3ES
------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve WD8DAS wrote:
>And it's  "Howbouddat Skiplan', skiplan', ya gotta copy, c'mawn?"

It seems strange to me that, on the occasions that I tune a receiver up 
to 11m, I very, very often hear that sort of call, but never hear the 
same people in a conversation with anyone.


From fomularace at comcast.net  Thu Feb  5 14:04:19 2009
From: fomularace at comcast.net (fomularace at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:04:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP8727C39D22426CB8C41B85C9C00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1556580655.1702441233860659896.JavaMail.root@sz0148a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Yes all correct?? and the mic must be pre amped and place near the tonsills to insure 100%?? Moduulaation !! 

Carl?? ?wd8mfb 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Sieb" <esieb at sympatico.ca> 
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:50:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST 

Hah! ?If you really want to hear some "ghost-talking" just listen to 
27.025 anytime the band is open! ? ?I sometimes think those guys are 
yammering, just to hear their own voices. ? Lot's of calling out, but 
no conversation that I can discern! 

Ed, VA3ES 
------------------------------------------------------------------ 

Steve WD8DAS wrote: 
>And it's ?"Howbouddat Skiplan', skiplan', ya gotta copy, c'mawn?" 

It seems strange to me that, on the occasions that I tune a receiver up 
to 11m, I very, very often hear that sort of call, but never hear the 
same people in a conversation with anyone. 

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From k4kyv at charter.net  Fri Feb  6 12:36:10 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:36:10 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <mailman.4549.1233860662.30711.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <85D19E0D65A247E3A5823D24A4C4E51C@D65Y8B21>

> Hah!  If you really want to hear some "ghost-talking" just listen to
> 27.025 anytime the band is open!    I sometimes think those guys are
> yammering, just to hear their own voices.   Lot's of calling out, but
> no conversation that I can discern!
>
> Ed, VA3ES

"Ghost-talking" eh?

Now that's the exact term I've heard slopbucketeers accuse me of, when I 
would be in an AM QSO that happened to fall near their dead-air frequency, 
and they could hear me but not the other station in my QSO.

Don k4kyv



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From esieb at sympatico.ca  Fri Feb  6 13:52:47 2009
From: esieb at sympatico.ca (Ed Sieb)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:52:47 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <85D19E0D65A247E3A5823D24A4C4E51C@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP45AAC5CCC7FBF5F979E5C7C9C10@phx.gbl>

Don,   where do you think I heard this term?   And where do you think 
those slopbucketeers got it? I'd be willing to venture that over 80%
of the jerks, lids, troublemakers and miscreants who give us  a hard 
time for running AM, are ex-CB'ers.  And as you well know, CB'ers, ex 
or other wise (freebanders in particular), disdain the use of AM as 
being unworthy of true radio operators.  Only kids, drive-time 
suburbanites and  losers use AM. Every "professional" radio operator 
knows that!

Ed, VA3ES
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don k4kyv wrote:
"Ghost-talking" eh?
Now that's the exact term I've heard slopbucketeers accuse me of, when I 
would be in an AM QSO that happened to fall near their dead-air frequency, 
and they could hear me but not the other station in my QSO.

> Ed, VA3ES wrote:
> Hah!  If you really want to hear some "ghost-talking" just listen to
> 27.025 anytime the band is open!    I sometimes think those guys are
> yammering, just to hear their own voices.   Lot's of calling out, but
> no conversation that I can discern!


From k4kyv at charter.net  Sat Feb  7 13:41:14 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:41:14 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <mailman.73.1234026010.11263.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <31F5F23EA2BA4F06A043AEBC0AAB1E12@D65Y8B21>

> ...I'd be willing to venture that over 80%
> of the jerks, lids, troublemakers and miscreants who give us  a hard
> time for running AM, are ex-CB'ers.  And as you well know, CB'ers, ex
> or other wise (freebanders in particular), disdain the use of AM as
> being unworthy of true radio operators.  Only kids, drive-time
> suburbanites and  losers use AM. Every "professional" radio operator
> knows that!
>
> Ed, VA3ES

The original anti-AM element in amateur radio probably go all the way back 
to the days before CB.

Those were the first converts, the true-believers, who jumped on the SSB 
bandwagon when it was being heavily promoted during the 50's.  During that 
era, nearly every ham magazine, radio club, national radio organisation, 
etc. became a propaganda agent for SSB.  From the beginning there was some 
conflict between users of the two modes, but they seem to get along pretty 
well until the early 60's, when the cheap transceivers like Swans, Galaxies, 
Heathkit "Hotwater" rigs, and others, came on the market.  "Sideband for the 
masses"  ...and a wide open market for a new product!  Up till then, the 
only way to get on SSB was to spend a considerable sum of money on Collins 
or Central Electronics gear, or else build your own.  Many of the wannabe 
slopbucketeers had neither the financial resources to buy a commercial rig, 
nor the knowledge, expertise and test equipment necessary to build a SSB 
rig.  Once those cheap rigs hit the market, the floodgates were opened and 
that was when the great AM/SSB wars erupted in the mid-60's.  A legacy of 
this conflict that still persists to this day throughout ham radio is the 
deliberate interference and jamming that became commonplace during that era.

By the time Incentive Licensing had been in effect for a year or two, AM had 
all but disappeared from the air.  The few of us who stayed on AM were 
harassed and heckled as could be expected for anyone who refuses to go along 
with the crowd, plus the SSB warriors thought they had won, and it was an 
extreme thorn in their side whenever they heard the few remaining AM 
stations on the air.

AM started coming back in the early 70's, only a few years after it 
supposedly had died, and now AM has been "coming back" for about 35 years, 
longer that it had ever been "dead" in the first place, and for almost as 
long as it was ever used by amateur radio operators before its 
officially-declared "death" in the late 60's.

So, some of the anti-AM crowd we hear to-day are old timers, veterans of the 
60's AM vs. SSB wars, although many of those are now SK, and others have 
mellowed out in their old age, some of whom have actually returned to AM..

But you are correct, most of the remaining disdain for AM that you witness 
to-day originally probably has its roots in the 11m crowd.

Don k4kyv

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From esieb at sympatico.ca  Sat Feb  7 15:28:31 2009
From: esieb at sympatico.ca (Ed Sieb)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:28:31 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <31F5F23EA2BA4F06A043AEBC0AAB1E12@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>

Don, I was around in the mid-sixties and was a witness to all the jamming 
and miscreant actions against AM. I well remember the AM-SSB wars that 
took place on 75M!   I particularly recall K4BTQ and his vulgar outbursts 
against SSB.  This guy was a racist and an antisemite, so you can imagine 
the nature of his diatribes!  They were awful, but hilarious.

Ed, VA3ES
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don k4kyv wrote:
The original anti-AM element in amateur radio probably go all the way back 
to the days before CB.
 <snip>
Once those cheap rigs hit the market, the floodgates were opened and 
that was when the great AM/SSB wars erupted in the mid-60's.  A legacy of 
this conflict that still persists to this day throughout ham radio is the 
deliberate interference and jamming that became commonplace during that era.
 <snip>
So, some of the anti-AM crowd we hear to-day are old timers, veterans of the 
60's AM vs. SSB wars, although many of those are now SK, and others have 
mellowed out in their old age, some of whom have actually returned to AM..


From Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net  Sat Feb  7 21:29:41 2009
From: Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net (Brett Gazdzinski)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:29:41 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>

I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at 
night.
I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they 
hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and go 
on about it at length.
Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often 
hear only the southern hate nets.

If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex KKK, 
people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about 
revolution.

I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night with 
so many people like that on at the same time.

Brett
N2DTS


From crawfish at surfmore.net  Sat Feb  7 21:42:47 2009
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (Joe Crawford)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:42:47 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
	<9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
Message-ID: <9BC3E615CF56408288B2F779CA240F5D@homevs5lb1pw9n>

Take out the "ex" before cb and kkk and you will be right on the money for 
the slopbuckets here in the South.
                                                                             
                       Joe W4AAB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST


>I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at
> night.
> I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they
> hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and 
> go
> on about it at length.
> Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often
> hear only the southern hate nets.
>
> If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex 
> KKK,
> people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about
> revolution.
>
> I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night 
> with
> so many people like that on at the same time.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
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From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb  7 21:52:28 2009
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:52:28 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
	<9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
Message-ID: <20090208025216.D0DA23738151@mailman.qth.net>

That's a big reason why I do almost exclusively CW. AM will wait 
until I get my Dad's (W5JHJ SK) Globe Champ 350 going here at my 
shack. Thankfully, CW seems to be beyond the extremely limited mental 
abilities of the tertiary syphilitic cretins that hang out on the 75 
m "hate" SSB frequencies.

Kim Elmore, N5OP


At 08:29 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
>I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at
>night.
>I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they
>hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and go
>on about it at length.
>Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often
>hear only the southern hate nets.
>
>If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex KKK,
>people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about
>revolution.
>
>I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night with
>so many people like that on at the same time.
>
>Brett
>N2DTS
>
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From w5jo at brightok.net  Sat Feb  7 22:06:01 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:06:01 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
	<9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
Message-ID: <117C4911E31345FF92C8AEFA49E25E0D@JimPC>

Brett, it isn't just from the South.  That is a myth that needs to 
be buried.

Jim/W5JO


----- Original Message ----- 



>I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 
>meters at
> night.
> I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate 
> AM, they
> hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate 
> everything, and go
> on about it at length.
> Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I 
> often
> hear only the southern hate nets.
>
> If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex 
> cb, ex KKK,
> people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking 
> about
> revolution.
>
> I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at 
> night with
> so many people like that on at the same time.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS


From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sat Feb  7 22:22:00 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:22:00 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
	<9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
Message-ID: <007001c9899c$684f9800$38eec800$@net>

Brett you are 100% right... It is very
discouraging to hear what goes on 75. Last night a
really good qso was going on and a guy called CQ
right on top of the qso... Man the claws came
out... Name calling swearing cussing and 4 letter
words that I have never heard on the radio...
Sometimes it is worse than Channel 19...

What is happening to our hobby??? Go to a hamfest
and some people look like no shower for weeks...
The bathrooms stink to high heavens and people do
not flush the toilets...

It is ohhh so sad.. I remember the days that you
wore a suit and tie to hamfests...


Very Best 73's,

Bob W1PE
Mesquite,TX

http://www.w1pe.com




-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of Brett Gazdzinski
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:30 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST

I am getting really bothered by the people I hear
on ssb on 80 meters at 
night.
I never heard so much intolerance, they hate
contests, they hate AM, they 
hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem
to hate everything, and go 
on about it at length.
Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on,
but at night, I often 
hear only the southern hate nets.

If you listen at night, you would think the US is
filled with ex cb, ex KKK, 
people who live in trailers and hate almost
everything, talking about 
revolution.

I am surprised that any AM operation is possible
on 80 meters at night with 
so many people like that on at the same time.

Brett
N2DTS

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From barrie at centric.net  Sat Feb  7 22:23:36 2009
From: barrie at centric.net (Barrie Smith)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:23:36 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl><9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
	<117C4911E31345FF92C8AEFA49E25E0D@JimPC>
Message-ID: <AFAAEE74ED464206A839C655058AB46C@barrylww3pb8pz>

We've got a heap of them (I said a heap) here in the pacific northwest, on 
75M.  It's somewhat less of a problem on 160M, but still there.

I'm speaking on deliberate interference.

It's not new.
That was the primery reason for building the (soon to be rebuilt) push-pull 
450TL rig back in the middle 1990s.

This problem is not new, nor is it restricted to a particular region.

We can fight it.  We can win a battle, but we cannot win the war.  There are 
too many of them!

73, Barrie, W7ALW, Since 1950

Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST


> Brett, it isn't just from the South.  That is a myth that needs to
> be buried.
>
> Jim/W5JO
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>
>
>>I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80
>>meters at
>> night.
>> I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate
>> AM, they
>> hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate
>> everything, and go
>> on about it at length.
>> Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I
>> often
>> hear only the southern hate nets.
>>
>> If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex
>> cb, ex KKK,
>> people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking
>> about
>> revolution.
>>
>> I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at
>> night with
>> so many people like that on at the same time.
>>
>> Brett
>> N2DTS
>
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From jmac6235 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  7 22:31:26 2009
From: jmac6235 at yahoo.com (J.D. MacAulay, WQ8U)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:31:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <007001c9899c$684f9800$38eec800$@net>
Message-ID: <1650.96891.qm@web54603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Bob,
It's not just to hamfests.  Folks coming to our church look like they are going or have been gardening or going to the beach.  Respect is gone!
73
Mac
WQ8U
Hillsborough, NC


--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net> wrote:

> From: Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: "'Brett Gazdzinski'" <Brett.gazdzinski at verizon.net>, "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 10:22 PM
> Brett you are 100% right... It is very
> discouraging to hear what goes on 75. Last night a
> really good qso was going on and a guy called CQ
> right on top of the qso... Man the claws came
> out... Name calling swearing cussing and 4 letter
> words that I have never heard on the radio...
> Sometimes it is worse than Channel 19...
> 
> What is happening to our hobby??? Go to a hamfest
> and some people look like no shower for weeks...
> The bathrooms stink to high heavens and people do
> not flush the toilets...
> 
> It is ohhh so sad.. I remember the days that you
> wore a suit and tie to hamfests...
> 
> 
> Very Best 73's,
> 
> Bob W1PE
> Mesquite,TX
> 
> http://www.w1pe.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of Brett Gazdzinski
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:30 PM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> 
> I am getting really bothered by the people I hear
> on ssb on 80 meters at 
> night.
> I never heard so much intolerance, they hate
> contests, they hate AM, they 
> hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem
> to hate everything, and go 
> on about it at length.
> Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on,
> but at night, I often 
> hear only the southern hate nets.
> 
> If you listen at night, you would think the US is
> filled with ex cb, ex KKK, 
> people who live in trailers and hate almost
> everything, talking about 
> revolution.
> 
> I am surprised that any AM operation is possible
> on 80 meters at night with 
> so many people like that on at the same time.
> 
> Brett
> N2DTS
> 
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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Sat Feb  7 22:49:23 2009
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:49:23 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
	<9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
Message-ID: <00c801c989a0$3b46d400$0202a8c0@bernie>

Hi Brent: go to the bottom end of the band, it is much better there. I can 
get a response to CQ! about half the time it is a SSB that is interested and 
they frequently try AM on the rice box.  Just signed with W1VZR, he was at 
6540.  The bozos are on 75 in the daytime also. that group of clowns at 3890 
is something to hear!  I sometimes just listen to them when I am working on 
somthing,  ID about once every 30  min or so.73 Bernie W8RPW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST


>I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at
> night.
> I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they
> hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and 
> go
> on about it at length.
> Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often
> hear only the southern hate nets.
>
> If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex 
> KKK,
> people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about
> revolution.
>
> I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night 
> with
> so many people like that on at the same time.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
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From manualman at juno.com  Sat Feb  7 23:09:32 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:09:32 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
Message-ID: <20090207.230933.5220.0.manualman@juno.com>

New amateur frequency  (6540)??

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:49:23 -0500 "Bernie Doran"
<qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> writes:
Just signed with W1VZR, he was at 6540.  

73 Bernie W8RPW

From Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net  Sat Feb  7 23:20:09 2009
From: Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net (Brett Gazdzinski)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:20:09 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <117C4911E31345FF92C8AEFA49E25E0D@JimPC>
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl>
	<9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC>
	<117C4911E31345FF92C8AEFA49E25E0D@JimPC>
Message-ID: <07A78583A6594907BA2DED441B06AEEC@brettPC>

I have recently built a K2, and have been jumping around the bands, then I 
got an Alpha Delta dx-lb-plus, which does 160 to 10 meters, you can tune it 
to have a low swr on all the bands, its narrow on 160 and 80, but it works 
well otherwise,
I can hear many signals on 160, some are very strong, I never managed that 
before.
Unfortunately, I doubt I could get on, I would likely get into things in the 
neighborhood, so I don't operate AM at night generally.

This antenna seems to be able to take a fair amount of power, so far it has 
handled the legal limit on AM without problems, and I did tests at twice 
that.
Its 100 feet long, which is short for 80, very short for 160, but seems to 
work very well on receive at least.

If you adjust it, you can do away with the tuner if you operate at the low 
swr points.

I only have 100 feet between trees, away from power lines, so this antenna 
seems to be the best bet if you want to jump around bands.
The K2 is in the den (its very small) so I can listen to CW and ssb (and AM 
using ssb) while the wife watches TV.

In listening to ssb at night, I have noticed what the ssb guys are talking 
about, and sorry to say, almost all the hate is from 4 land, not to say ALL 
people in 4 land are the same, or that the same feelings don't exist in 
other places, but what I hear is ALL coming from 4 land.

160 meters seems much nicer, I wonder why.
Has 160 been in very good shape lately, or is it the antenna?
I used to try listening using other antenna's and all I ever heard weak 
signals and lots of static...
W1AW was 50 over on 160 last night, and I just heard some AM guys on 1880 
that were 40 over, no noise, no trash, nice!
I have also heard people from all over the country!

Brett
N2DTS






 


From jtml at losalamos.com  Sun Feb  8 00:08:01 2009
From: jtml at losalamos.com (John Lyles)
Date: Sat,  7 Feb 2009 22:08:01 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] SSB/CB/AM/etc
Message-ID: <1f2484b223cb64e896bbd225164540bd@losalamos.com>

Outrageous description! "Tertiary Syphilitic Cretins". Try to picture that!

> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:52:28 -0600
> From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> That's a big reason why I do almost exclusively CW. AM will wait 
> until I get my Dad's (W5JHJ SK) Globe Champ 350 going here at my 
> shack. Thankfully, CW seems to be beyond the extremely limited mental 
> abilities of the tertiary syphilitic cretins that hang out on the 75 
> m "hate" SSB frequencies.

I am reading from a motel W of Knoxville, started out in Philadephia last night, and am headed west on I40 back to Santa Fe. I wish I had a transceiver in the car. So anybody here along I-40 wanna do lunch tomorrow or Monday? Unfortunately I might not get to read replies in time, but tomorrow night (sunday) will check email again if I find another motel with WIFi. 

73
John
K5PRO

From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Sun Feb  8 07:44:04 2009
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:44:04 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <20090207.230933.5220.0.manualman@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c989ea$ecfa50b0$0202a8c0@bernie>

OH BOY:  no not a new freq, fat fingers, try 3640.  Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter A Markavage" <manualman at juno.com>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST


> New amateur frequency  (6540)??
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:49:23 -0500 "Bernie Doran"
> <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> writes:
> Just signed with W1VZR, he was at 6540.  
> 
> 73 Bernie W8RPW
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From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 09:00:08 2009
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:00:08 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <9BC3E615CF56408288B2F779CA240F5D@homevs5lb1pw9n>
Message-ID: <0KER00HJR2W0D4I4@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net>


Try 160 meters, the gentleman's band.

Phil 


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-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Crawford
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:43 PM
To: Brett Gazdzinski; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST

Take out the "ex" before cb and kkk and you will be right on the money for
the slopbuckets here in the South.
 

                       Joe W4AAB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST


>I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at
> night.
> I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they
> hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and 
> go
> on about it at length.
> Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often
> hear only the southern hate nets.
>
> If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex 
> KKK,
> people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about
> revolution.
>
> I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night 
> with
> so many people like that on at the same time.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
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From georgeb at i2k.net  Sun Feb  8 09:38:21 2009
From: georgeb at i2k.net (George Brand)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:38:21 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <AFAAEE74ED464206A839C655058AB46C@barrylww3pb8pz>
Message-ID: <ANECLKJDIHLHMAMNDPFCOEGKCFAA.georgeb@i2k.net>

I keep thinking a series of coax parties might help get a message
accross...worked fine in the sixties...

George  WA8SCO

>It's not new.
> Jim/W5JO
>
>


From wa1zuf at juno.com  Sun Feb  8 10:41:25 2009
From: wa1zuf at juno.com (wa1zuf at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:41:25 GMT
Subject: [AMRadio] Yaesu FT 101 AM Filter & Mod's??
Message-ID: <20090208.104125.4535.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

I have a FT-101E project on the bench and I would like to set it up for AM. The only outfit I found on the web appears not to be stocking them. (International Radio)  I intend on doing WA1HLR's Mod's to the PB/1184 and PB/1315 boards.

Anyone have other recommendations? (For either the filter or the mods)

TNX Steve W1TAV 


From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb  8 11:38:28 2009
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:38:28 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] SSB/CB/AM/etc
In-Reply-To: <1f2484b223cb64e896bbd225164540bd@losalamos.com>
References: <1f2484b223cb64e896bbd225164540bd@losalamos.com>
Message-ID: <20090208163827.908983738141@mailman.qth.net>

I'm in Norman, OK, a bit south of I-40. If you get this in time, and 
you'd like to see the National Weather Center, let me know. I'll give 
you the PRO tour.

On short notice, it's best to get me at kim dot elmore at noaa dot 
gov. Even shorter notice: 405-325-6295

Kim Elmore, N5OP

At 11:08 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
>Outrageous description! "Tertiary Syphilitic Cretins". Try to picture that!
>
> > Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:52:28 -0600
> > From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> > That's a big reason why I do almost exclusively CW. AM will wait
> > until I get my Dad's (W5JHJ SK) Globe Champ 350 going here at my
> > shack. Thankfully, CW seems to be beyond the extremely limited mental
> > abilities of the tertiary syphilitic cretins that hang out on the 75
> > m "hate" SSB frequencies.
>
>I am reading from a motel W of Knoxville, started out in Philadephia 
>last night, and am headed west on I40 back to Santa Fe. I wish I had 
>a transceiver in the car. So anybody here along I-40 wanna do lunch 
>tomorrow or Monday? Unfortunately I might not get to read replies in 
>time, but tomorrow night (sunday) will check email again if I find 
>another motel with WIFi.
>
>73
>John
>K5PRO
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From sbjohnston at aol.com  Sun Feb  8 12:41:38 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:41:38 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
In-Reply-To: <07A78583A6594907BA2DED441B06AEEC@brettPC>
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl><9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC><117C4911E31345FF92C8AEFA49E25E0D@JimPC>
	<07A78583A6594907BA2DED441B06AEEC@brettPC>
Message-ID: <8CB582BA0C4D5B2-A54-2626@WEBMAIL-DY07.sysops.aol.com>


>Has 160 been in very good shape lately, or is it the antenna?

You antenna might be doing well, but 160 meters is indeed in excellent 
form right now.  Very low noise, excellent propagation for local, and 
regional during the day, and longer distance as the night progresses.


Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Gazdzinski <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST










I have recently built a K2, and have been jumping around the bands, 
then I
got an Alpha Delta dx-lb-plus, which does 160 to 10 meters, you can 
tune it
to have a low swr on all the bands, its narrow on 160 and 80, but it 
works
well otherwise,
I can hear many signals on 160, some are very strong, I never managed 
that
before.
Unfortunately, I doubt I could get on, I would likely get into things 
in the
neighborhood, so I don't operate AM at night generally.

This antenna seems to be able to take a fair amount of power, so far it 
has
handled the legal limit on AM without problems, and I did tests at 
twice
that.
Its 100 feet long, which is short for 80, very short for 160, but seems 
to
work very well on receive at least.

If you adjust it, you can do away with the tuner if you operate at the 
low
swr points.

I only have 100 feet between trees, away from power lines, so this 
antenna
seems to be the best bet if you want to jump around bands.
The K2 is in the den (its very small) so I can listen to CW and ssb 
(and AM
using ssb) while the wife watches TV.

In listening to ssb at night, I have noticed what the ssb guys are 
talking
about, and sorry to say, almost all the hate is from 4 land, not to say 
ALL
people in 4 land are the same, or that the same feelings don't exist in
other places, but what I hear is ALL coming from 4 land.

160 meters seems much nicer, I wonder why.
Has 160 been in very good shape lately, or is it the antenna?
I used to try listening using other antenna's and all I ever heard weak
signals and lots of static...
W1AW was 50 over on 160 last night, and I just heard some AM guys on 
1880
that were 40 over, no noise, no trash, nice!
I have also heard people from all over the country!

Brett
N2DTS








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From kenw2dtc at comcast.net  Sun Feb  8 12:55:02 2009
From: kenw2dtc at comcast.net (Ken)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:55:02 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] TEST
References: <BLU0-SMTP999349F458D7D39ACB2637C9BE0@phx.gbl><9508C9F6836A41C19F5580CE23CD3CF7@brettPC><117C4911E31345FF92C8AEFA49E25E0D@JimPC><07A78583A6594907BA2DED441B06AEEC@brettPC>
	<8CB582BA0C4D5B2-A54-2626@WEBMAIL-DY07.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <63BB2D0208474039AB5A30061C84AB47@w2dtc3xqk3jvjd>

>>Has 160 been in very good shape lately, or is it the antenna?


I was on 160 the other morning at 3AM  (yes 3 AM !) with K4KYV and WA3JBT. 
Both local and distant stations were very strong and the noise was low.
73,
Ken W2DTC


From chejmw at buffalo.edu  Sun Feb  8 13:04:05 2009
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:04:05 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] SSB/CB/AM/etc
References: <1f2484b223cb64e896bbd225164540bd@losalamos.com>
	<20090208163827.908983738141@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <B9E1B1E6A28848719586758C177CDBB0@ESHOP1>

Kim,
Send me and email I have a question for you about NOAA.
Off list please.
Jim
WB2FCN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
To: <jtml at vla.com>; "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] SSB/CB/AM/etc


> I'm in Norman, OK, a bit south of I-40. If you get this in time, and
> you'd like to see the National Weather Center, let me know. I'll give
> you the PRO tour.
>
> On short notice, it's best to get me at kim dot elmore at noaa dot
> gov. Even shorter notice: 405-325-6295
>
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
>
> At 11:08 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
>>Outrageous description! "Tertiary Syphilitic Cretins". Try to picture 
>>that!
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:52:28 -0600
>> > From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
>> > That's a big reason why I do almost exclusively CW. AM will wait
>> > until I get my Dad's (W5JHJ SK) Globe Champ 350 going here at my
>> > shack. Thankfully, CW seems to be beyond the extremely limited mental
>> > abilities of the tertiary syphilitic cretins that hang out on the 75
>> > m "hate" SSB frequencies.
>>
>>I am reading from a motel W of Knoxville, started out in Philadephia
>>last night, and am headed west on I40 back to Santa Fe. I wish I had
>>a transceiver in the car. So anybody here along I-40 wanna do lunch
>>tomorrow or Monday? Unfortunately I might not get to read replies in
>>time, but tomorrow night (sunday) will check email again if I find
>>another motel with WIFi.
>>
>>73
>>John
>>K5PRO
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From joefran at live.com  Sun Feb  8 16:05:23 2009
From: joefran at live.com (j f)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:05:23 +0100
Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 61, Issue 11
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Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe

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>    1. Re: TEST (Bernie Doran)
>    2. Re: TEST (Peter A Markavage)
>    3. Re: TEST (Brett Gazdzinski)
>    4. SSB/CB/AM/etc (John Lyles)
>    5. Re: TEST (Bernie Doran)
>    6. Re: TEST (Phil LaMarche)
>    7. Re: TEST (George Brand)
>    8. Yaesu FT 101 AM Filter & Mod's?? (wa1zuf at juno.com)
>    9. Re: SSB/CB/AM/etc (Kim Elmore)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:49:23 -0500
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.gazdzinski at verizon.net>,	"Discussion of
> 	AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <00c801c989a0$3b46d400$0202a8c0 at bernie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
> 
> Hi Brent: go to the bottom end of the band, it is much better there. I can 
> get a response to CQ! about half the time it is a SSB that is interested and 
> they frequently try AM on the rice box.  Just signed with W1VZR, he was at 
> 6540.  The bozos are on 75 in the daytime also. that group of clowns at 3890 
> is something to hear!  I sometimes just listen to them when I am working on 
> somthing,  ID about once every 30  min or so.73 Bernie W8RPW
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> 
> 
> >I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at
> > night.
> > I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they
> > hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and 
> > go
> > on about it at length.
> > Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often
> > hear only the southern hate nets.
> >
> > If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex 
> > KKK,
> > people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about
> > revolution.
> >
> > I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night 
> > with
> > so many people like that on at the same time.
> >
> > Brett
> > N2DTS
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:09:32 -0500
> From: Peter A Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <20090207.230933.5220.0.manualman at juno.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> New amateur frequency  (6540)??
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:49:23 -0500 "Bernie Doran"
> <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> writes:
> Just signed with W1VZR, he was at 6540.  
> 
> 73 Bernie W8RPW
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:20:09 -0500
> From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> 	<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <07A78583A6594907BA2DED441B06AEEC at brettPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> 	reply-type=original
> 
> I have recently built a K2, and have been jumping around the bands, then I 
> got an Alpha Delta dx-lb-plus, which does 160 to 10 meters, you can tune it 
> to have a low swr on all the bands, its narrow on 160 and 80, but it works 
> well otherwise,
> I can hear many signals on 160, some are very strong, I never managed that 
> before.
> Unfortunately, I doubt I could get on, I would likely get into things in the 
> neighborhood, so I don't operate AM at night generally.
> 
> This antenna seems to be able to take a fair amount of power, so far it has 
> handled the legal limit on AM without problems, and I did tests at twice 
> that.
> Its 100 feet long, which is short for 80, very short for 160, but seems to 
> work very well on receive at least.
> 
> If you adjust it, you can do away with the tuner if you operate at the low 
> swr points.
> 
> I only have 100 feet between trees, away from power lines, so this antenna 
> seems to be the best bet if you want to jump around bands.
> The K2 is in the den (its very small) so I can listen to CW and ssb (and AM 
> using ssb) while the wife watches TV.
> 
> In listening to ssb at night, I have noticed what the ssb guys are talking 
> about, and sorry to say, almost all the hate is from 4 land, not to say ALL 
> people in 4 land are the same, or that the same feelings don't exist in 
> other places, but what I hear is ALL coming from 4 land.
> 
> 160 meters seems much nicer, I wonder why.
> Has 160 been in very good shape lately, or is it the antenna?
> I used to try listening using other antenna's and all I ever heard weak 
> signals and lots of static...
> W1AW was 50 over on 160 last night, and I just heard some AM guys on 1880 
> that were 40 over, no noise, no trash, nice!
> I have also heard people from all over the country!
> 
> Brett
> N2DTS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat,  7 Feb 2009 22:08:01 -0700
> From: "John Lyles" <jtml at losalamos.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] SSB/CB/AM/etc
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <1f2484b223cb64e896bbd225164540bd at losalamos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Outrageous description! "Tertiary Syphilitic Cretins". Try to picture that!
> 
> > Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:52:28 -0600
> > From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> > That's a big reason why I do almost exclusively CW. AM will wait 
> > until I get my Dad's (W5JHJ SK) Globe Champ 350 going here at my 
> > shack. Thankfully, CW seems to be beyond the extremely limited mental 
> > abilities of the tertiary syphilitic cretins that hang out on the 75 
> > m "hate" SSB frequencies.
> 
> I am reading from a motel W of Knoxville, started out in Philadephia last night, and am headed west on I40 back to Santa Fe. I wish I had a transceiver in the car. So anybody here along I-40 wanna do lunch tomorrow or Monday? Unfortunately I might not get to read replies in time, but tomorrow night (sunday) will check email again if I find another motel with WIFi. 
> 
> 73
> John
> K5PRO
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:44:04 -0500
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> 	<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <00ec01c989ea$ecfa50b0$0202a8c0 at bernie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
> 
> OH BOY:  no not a new freq, fat fingers, try 3640.  Bernie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter A Markavage" <manualman at juno.com>
> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> 
> 
> > New amateur frequency  (6540)??
> > 
> > Pete, wa2cwa
> > 
> > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:49:23 -0500 "Bernie Doran"
> > <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com> writes:
> > Just signed with W1VZR, he was at 6540.  
> > 
> > 73 Bernie W8RPW
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:00:08 -0500
> From: "Phil LaMarche" <plamarc1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'"
> 	<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <0KER00HJR2W0D4I4 at vms173003.mailsrvcs.net>
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> 
> 
> Try 160 meters, the gentleman's band.
> 
> Phil 
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Crawford
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:43 PM
> To: Brett Gazdzinski; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> 
> Take out the "ex" before cb and kkk and you will be right on the money for
> the slopbuckets here in the South.
>  
> 
>                        Joe W4AAB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> 
> 
> >I am getting really bothered by the people I hear on ssb on 80 meters at
> > night.
> > I never heard so much intolerance, they hate contests, they hate AM, they
> > hate blacks, they hate the government, they seem to hate everything, and 
> > go
> > on about it at length.
> > Daytime on 80 meters, normal people seem to be on, but at night, I often
> > hear only the southern hate nets.
> >
> > If you listen at night, you would think the US is filled with ex cb, ex 
> > KKK,
> > people who live in trailers and hate almost everything, talking about
> > revolution.
> >
> > I am surprised that any AM operation is possible on 80 meters at night 
> > with
> > so many people like that on at the same time.
> >
> > Brett
> > N2DTS
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:38:21 -0500
> From: "George Brand" <georgeb at i2k.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> 	<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <ANECLKJDIHLHMAMNDPFCOEGKCFAA.georgeb at i2k.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I keep thinking a series of coax parties might help get a message
> accross...worked fine in the sixties...
> 
> George  WA8SCO
> 
> >It's not new.
> > Jim/W5JO
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:41:25 GMT
> From: "wa1zuf at juno.com" <wa1zuf at juno.com>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Yaesu FT 101 AM Filter & Mod's??
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net,	 boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <20090208.104125.4535.1 at webmail09.dca.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I have a FT-101E project on the bench and I would like to set it up for AM. The only outfit I found on the web appears not to be stocking them. (International Radio)  I intend on doing WA1HLR's Mod's to the PB/1184 and PB/1315 boards.
> 
> Anyone have other recommendations? (For either the filter or the mods)
> 
> TNX Steve W1TAV 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:38:28 -0600
> From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] SSB/CB/AM/etc
> To: jtml at vla.com,	Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> 	<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <20090208163827.908983738141 at mailman.qth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> I'm in Norman, OK, a bit south of I-40. If you get this in time, and 
> you'd like to see the National Weather Center, let me know. I'll give 
> you the PRO tour.
> 
> On short notice, it's best to get me at kim dot elmore at noaa dot 
> gov. Even shorter notice: 405-325-6295
> 
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
> 
> At 11:08 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
> >Outrageous description! "Tertiary Syphilitic Cretins". Try to picture that!
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:52:28 -0600
> > > From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TEST
> > > That's a big reason why I do almost exclusively CW. AM will wait
> > > until I get my Dad's (W5JHJ SK) Globe Champ 350 going here at my
> > > shack. Thankfully, CW seems to be beyond the extremely limited mental
> > > abilities of the tertiary syphilitic cretins that hang out on the 75
> > > m "hate" SSB frequencies.
> >
> >I am reading from a motel W of Knoxville, started out in Philadephia 
> >last night, and am headed west on I40 back to Santa Fe. I wish I had 
> >a transceiver in the car. So anybody here along I-40 wanna do lunch 
> >tomorrow or Monday? Unfortunately I might not get to read replies in 
> >time, but tomorrow night (sunday) will check email again if I find 
> >another motel with WIFi.
> >
> >73
> >John
> >K5PRO
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From w3slk at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 16:41:33 2009
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:41:33 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
References: <mailman.97.1234112417.8043.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
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I would be interested myself.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: j f 
  To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 61, Issue 11


  Hello

            I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

  many thanks
  joe
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From w5jo at brightok.net  Sun Feb  8 16:48:14 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:48:14 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
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Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.  Otis/K5SWK built one like this some years back and it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us what Otis did.  

Jim/W5JO

  ----- Original Message ----- 


  I would be interested myself.
  Mod-U-Lator,
  Mike(y)
  W3SLK
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    Hello

              I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

    many thanks
    joe



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From manualman at juno.com  Sun Feb  8 17:05:39 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:05:39 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
Message-ID: <20090208.170539.3680.2.manualman@juno.com>

Check the RCA Guide For Transmitting Tubes from back in the day.

Pete, wa2cwa


On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:41:33 -0500 "Mike Sawyer" <w3slk at verizon.net>
writes:
I would be interested myself.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: j f 
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 61, Issue 11


Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one
have a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe
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From w5jo at brightok.net  Sun Feb  8 17:22:24 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:22:24 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <20090208.170539.3680.2.manualman@juno.com>
References: <20090208.170539.3680.2.manualman@juno.com>
Message-ID: <727271623B2045C699957D39271DDBB6@JimPC>

Sure enough there is a diagram of an 833 in the book.  It is an oscillator for induction heating that runs ~ 450 Kc.  Now that would be some oscillator with 4 KV on the plate at 1 amp.
  ----- Original Message ----- 



  Check the RCA Guide For Transmitting Tubes from back in the day.

  Pete, wa2cwa


  On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:41:33 -0500 "Mike Sawyer" <w3slk at verizon.net> writes:
    I would be interested myself.
    Mod-U-Lator,
    Mike(y)
    W3SLK
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: j f 
      To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
      Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 61, Issue 11


      Hello

                I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

      many thanks
      joe


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From k5pgw at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  8 17:28:50 2009
From: k5pgw at yahoo.com (John King)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:28:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] BC 610 Help
Message-ID: <878613.98038.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


I am aware of the T-368_BC-610 list, but I need some help as soon as I can get it, trying to locate the proper terminal upon which to attach a wire . It has to do with the exciter section and a wire that goes either to TS 1 or TS 2. If you have a BC 610 E handy, you may be able to look at yours and let me know the placement of the wire. 

Please contact me directly. Your assistance will be greatly appreciated. 73, John, K5PGW   


      

From jpl15 at panix.com  Sun Feb  8 17:39:43 2009
From: jpl15 at panix.com (John Lawson)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:39:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <727271623B2045C699957D39271DDBB6@JimPC>
References: <20090208.170539.3680.2.manualman@juno.com>
	<727271623B2045C699957D39271DDBB6@JimPC>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.0902081731450.3451@panix2.panix.com>




  Here is a .pdf of the RCA BTA1MX and BTA500MX 1KW AM transmitter - a pair 
of 833s modulating either one (the '500' model) or two (the '1' model) 
833s.


http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/rca/bta1mx/


   I've owned the 1MX; and soon to take delivery of a 500.


   An easy, simple, robust circuit - modify the input-output tanks for the 
ham bands and then the hardest part will be finding the modulator 
transformer - but if you intend make a single 833 amplifier-only rig, then 
that's not an issue.

  At any rate having a look over the schematic (on the very last two pages 
of the .pdf) will perhaps suggest a good "departure point" for your design 
efforts...



    Cheers

John KB6SCO
Carson City, NV
DM09fg


From ranickel at comcast.net  Sun Feb  8 17:42:12 2009
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:42:12 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <20090208.170539.3680.2.manualman@juno.com>
References: <20090208.170539.3680.2.manualman@juno.com>
Message-ID: <498F5FC4.7020506@comcast.net>

Better yet, get ahold of Dan Krupp, W8NWF in Whitehall MI.  He's built a 
beautiful 833 rig that is cathode modulated by three 6146s and it sounds 
sweet.   There was  picture in the last issue of ER, or you can see it 
about halfway down the page here:

http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=18339.0

The transmitter sounds every bit as good as it looks!

73, Bob W9RAN



From manualman at juno.com  Sun Feb  8 17:53:51 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:53:51 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
Message-ID: <20090208.175351.5384.1.manualman@juno.com>

My issue (in the back where they show typical things to build with their
tubes) shows a Class C RF amplifier with an 833A.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:22:24 -0600 "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
writes:
Sure enough there is a diagram of an 833 in the book.  It is an
oscillator for induction heating that runs ~ 450 Kc.  Now that would be
some oscillator with 4 KV on the plate at 1 amp.
----- Original Message ----- 



Check the RCA Guide For Transmitting Tubes from back in the day.

Pete, wa2cwa


On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:41:33 -0500 "Mike Sawyer" <w3slk at verizon.net>
writes:
I would be interested myself.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: j f 
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 61, Issue 11


Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one
have a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe
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From w3slk at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 18:41:50 2009
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
References: <20090208.175351.5384.1.manualman@juno.com>
Message-ID: <859B8E03796849089E9CCCDC2810E8EA@FAMILY>

Pete,
    Which book would that be? I have TT3 and TT-5(?).  Also I have the set in the small hand held binders. 
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter A Markavage 
  To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig


  My issue (in the back where they show typical things to build with their tubes) shows a Class C RF amplifier with an 833A.

  Pete, wa2cwa
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From manualman at juno.com  Sun Feb  8 20:39:06 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:39:06 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
Message-ID: <20090208.204232.1276.1.manualman@juno.com>

It's the RCA Guide for Transmitting Tubes, dated 8/45. It's 72 pages and
has on the back Form No. 1F 8481 Rev. No TT numbers. If I remember
correctly, one or more of the Thordarson Transmitter Design Guides of the
early 40's also had a 833A construction project.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:41:50 -0500 "Mike Sawyer" <w3slk at verizon.net>
writes:
Pete,
    Which book would that be? I have TT3 and TT-5(?).  Also I have the
set in the small hand held binders. 
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter A Markavage 
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig


My issue (in the back where they show typical things to build with their
tubes) shows a Class C RF amplifier with an 833A.

Pete, wa2cwa
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From bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net  Mon Feb  9 09:03:49 2009
From: bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net (Bob Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:03:49 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <E47A89750AEC4DBD93B583D98D7E9BC0@JimPC>
Message-ID: <20090209134950.44AEC3738192@mailman.qth.net>

What ever happen to Otis ? I can guess that by this time is may be a SK. I
use to listen to him along with W4RKG on 75 meters in the 60's running some
beautiful a.m.  I recall that Otis was in Shreveport La. Ma he had such a
sweet a.m. sound.

I would listen to him along with a large group on 75 using a Allied "span
master" reg. receiver that I build in 65.

Great memories, wish a.m. could be like that again.

 

Bob Carpenter

KB4WEC

bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:48 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.  Otis/K5SWK built one like
this some years back and it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK
still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us what Otis did.  

 

Jim/W5JO

 

----- Original Message ----- 

 

I would be interested myself.

Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK

----- Original Message ----- 

 

 

Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have
a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe

 

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From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com  Mon Feb  9 08:58:50 2009
From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (LEE BAHR)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:58:50 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <20090209134950.44AEC3738192@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20090209134950.44AEC3738192@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <900EE8F58CF9472D979405FDD8ADFB23@LeePC>

Otis is alive, doesn't get on the air, lives in the far reaching Northern area of Houston, Tx. John Coleman, WA5BXO sees him from time to time.
Lee, w0vt
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Carpenter 
  To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig


  What ever happen to Otis ? I can guess that by this time is may be a SK. I use to listen to him along with W4RKG on 75 meters in the 60's running some beautiful a.m.  I recall that Otis was in Shreveport La. Ma he had such a sweet a.m. sound.

  I would listen to him along with a large group on 75 using a Allied "span master" reg. receiver that I build in 65.

  Great memories, wish a.m. could be like that again.

   

  Bob Carpenter

  KB4WEC

  bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net


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  From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:48 PM
  To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

   

  Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.  Otis/K5SWK built one like this some years back and it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us what Otis did.  

   

  Jim/W5JO

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

     

    I would be interested myself.

    Mod-U-Lator,
    Mike(y)
    W3SLK

      ----- Original Message ----- 

       

       

      Hello

                I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

      many thanks
      joe

     



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From bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net  Mon Feb  9 09:28:04 2009
From: bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net (Bob Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:28:04 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <900EE8F58CF9472D979405FDD8ADFB23@LeePC>
Message-ID: <20090209141409.AE83F37385BE@mailman.qth.net>

Lee,

Thanks so much for the info on Otis. Like I said, he and a few other had a
lot to do with my interest in ham radio. I was living in Ft. Walton Beach
Fl. At the time, and they would really light up my old Allied receiver. I
may try to get in contact with John WA5BXO and ask that he tell Otis that a
59 year old "kid" was still asking about him.

Best 73,

 

Bob Carpenter

KB4WEC

bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of LEE BAHR
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:59 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

Otis is alive, doesn't get on the air, lives in the far reaching Northern
area of Houston, Tx. John Coleman, WA5BXO sees him from time to time.

Lee, w0vt

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bob <mailto:bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net>  Carpenter 

To: 'Discussion <mailto:amradio at mailman.qth.net>  of AM Radio in the Amateur
Service' 

Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

What ever happen to Otis ? I can guess that by this time is may be a SK. I
use to listen to him along with W4RKG on 75 meters in the 60's running some
beautiful a.m.  I recall that Otis was in Shreveport La. Ma he had such a
sweet a.m. sound.

I would listen to him along with a large group on 75 using a Allied "span
master" reg. receiver that I build in 65.

Great memories, wish a.m. could be like that again.

 

Bob Carpenter

KB4WEC

bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net


  _____  


From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:48 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.  Otis/K5SWK built one like
this some years back and it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK
still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us what Otis did.  

 

Jim/W5JO

 

----- Original Message ----- 

 

I would be interested myself.

Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK

----- Original Message ----- 

 

 

Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have
a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe

 


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From w5jo at brightok.net  Mon Feb  9 09:27:40 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:40 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <20090209141409.AE83F37385BE@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20090209141409.AE83F37385BE@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <E87576DAB48442748BF51D5695DA4614@JimPC>

Bob, John reads this list.  I am a bit surprised he hasn't said something thus far.  But John has lots of work to do and a couple of teenagers to raise.  He will be along sometime soon.

Jim/W5JO
  ----- Thanks so much for the info on Otis. Like I said, he and a few other had a lot to do with my interest in ham radio. I was living in Ft. Walton Beach Fl. At the time, and they would really light up my old Allied receiver. I may try to get in contact with John WA5BXO and ask that he tell Otis that a 59 year old "kid" was still asking about him.
  Best 73,

   

  Bob Carpenter

  KB4WEC

  bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net


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From sbjohnston at aol.com  Mon Feb  9 09:29:24 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:29:24 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Cheap multimeter
Message-ID: <8CB58D9F0A191D7-1290-834@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com>


Harbor Freight has their red digital multimeters on sale for $2.99.  
And I received a coupon by email from them that gets the meters for 
$1.99.

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=90899


Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
-----------------------------------------------------
Radio is your best entertainment value.
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From jtml at losalamos.com  Mon Feb  9 09:39:32 2009
From: jtml at losalamos.com (John Lyles)
Date: Mon,  9 Feb 2009 07:39:32 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] single 833
Message-ID: <0819ff611a57fa68de8b96c63407dbdc@losalamos.com>

There's a fellow near me that built a single 833 modulated by a single 833, one of a class A bias-changing heising design. I gave him a big reactor for it. I can get details if anyone wants. 

73, 
John
K5PRO
on the road from Oklahoma City this morning





From rwpeters at swbell.net  Mon Feb  9 09:40:21 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:40:21 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <900EE8F58CF9472D979405FDD8ADFB23@LeePC>
References: <20090209134950.44AEC3738192@mailman.qth.net>
	<900EE8F58CF9472D979405FDD8ADFB23@LeePC>
Message-ID: <006701c98ac4$56830520$03890f60$@net>

OTIS had his 85th Birthday party on Saturday. All
the guys BXO/ SEE and a lot of others had for him
but you are correct he is not on the air.
Something like the floor in the shack is not safe.
>From what we hear he is doing well..You are
correct on the sweet sounding rig.

 

 

Very Best 73's,

 

Bob W1PE

Mesquite,TX

 

http://www.w1pe.com

 

 

 

 

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of LEE BAHR
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:59 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

Otis is alive, doesn't get on the air, lives in
the far reaching Northern area of Houston, Tx.
John Coleman, WA5BXO sees him from time to time.

Lee, w0vt

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bob Carpenter
<mailto:bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net>  

To: 'Discussion <mailto:amradio at mailman.qth.net>
of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' 

Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

What ever happen to Otis ? I can guess that by
this time is may be a SK. I use to listen to him
along with W4RKG on 75 meters in the 60's running
some beautiful a.m.  I recall that Otis was in
Shreveport La. Ma he had such a sweet a.m. sound.

I would listen to him along with a large group on
75 using a Allied "span master" reg. receiver that
I build in 65.

Great memories, wish a.m. could be like that
again.

 

Bob Carpenter

KB4WEC

bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of Jim Wilhite
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:48 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

 

Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.
Otis/K5SWK built one like this some years back and
it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK
still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us
what Otis did.  

 

Jim/W5JO

 

----- Original Message ----- 

 

I would be interested myself.

Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK

----- Original Message ----- 

 

 

Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with
one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe

 

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From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com  Mon Feb  9 14:17:18 2009
From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (LEE BAHR)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:17:18 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <20090209141409.AE83F37385BE@mailman.qth.net>
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Bob:

BXO is your best bet.  They are very close.  John sees Otis a lot.  John and his wife Vicki own/run a computer store in The Woodlands, Texas

Lee, w0vt
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Carpenter 
  To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig


  Lee,

  Thanks so much for the info on Otis. Like I said, he and a few other had a lot to do with my interest in ham radio. I was living in Ft. Walton Beach Fl. At the time, and they would really light up my old Allied receiver. I may try to get in contact with John WA5BXO and ask that he tell Otis that a 59 year old "kid" was still asking about him.

  Best 73,

   

  Bob Carpenter

  KB4WEC

  bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net


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  From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of LEE BAHR
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:59 AM
  To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

   

  Otis is alive, doesn't get on the air, lives in the far reaching Northern area of Houston, Tx. John Coleman, WA5BXO sees him from time to time.

  Lee, w0vt

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Bob Carpenter 

    To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' 

    Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:03 AM

    Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

     

    What ever happen to Otis ? I can guess that by this time is may be a SK. I use to listen to him along with W4RKG on 75 meters in the 60's running some beautiful a.m.  I recall that Otis was in Shreveport La. Ma he had such a sweet a.m. sound.

    I would listen to him along with a large group on 75 using a Allied "span master" reg. receiver that I build in 65.

    Great memories, wish a.m. could be like that again.

     

    Bob Carpenter

    KB4WEC

    bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net


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    From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
    Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:48 PM
    To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
    Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

     

    Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.  Otis/K5SWK built one like this some years back and it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us what Otis did.  

     

    Jim/W5JO

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

       

      I would be interested myself.

      Mod-U-Lator,
      Mike(y)
      W3SLK

        ----- Original Message ----- 

         

         

        Hello

                  I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

        many thanks
        joe

       


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From w3slk at verizon.net  Mon Feb  9 16:13:24 2009
From: w3slk at verizon.net (Mike Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:13:24 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] single 833
References: <0819ff611a57fa68de8b96c63407dbdc@losalamos.com>
Message-ID: <7290320F049F4BAC8179FE74B5CC5613@FAMILY>

I always wanted a rig that uses the 833. It such a neat and different tube. 
I have a good supply of 810's so I figured a pair will modulate one nicely. 
I like the BTA-500/1MX's. As a matter of fact, I was supposed to be wheeling 
and dealing on a -500MX with Eric, WB4VVI (SK) before he went SK. Oh well. I 
like the prospects of the 810's and the single 833. It won't weigh near as 
much as one of those boxes. I have some nice black krinkle panels so a 
krinkle motif is in the cards.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Lyles" <jtml at losalamos.com>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] single 833


There's a fellow near me that built a single 833 modulated by a single 833, 
one of a class A bias-changing heising design. I gave him a big reactor for 
it. I can get details if anyone wants.

73,
John
K5PRO
on the road from Oklahoma City this morning




From jim.isbell at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 16:36:45 2009
From: jim.isbell at gmail.com (Jim Isbell, W5JAI)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:36:45 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] single 833
In-Reply-To: <7290320F049F4BAC8179FE74B5CC5613@FAMILY>
References: <0819ff611a57fa68de8b96c63407dbdc@losalamos.com>
	<7290320F049F4BAC8179FE74B5CC5613@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <b0295dbe0902091336i63fd0101m346138e4ce9c11eb@mail.gmail.com>

I have an 833 that shows continuity on the filament...only test I can
do....that I would trade for something interesting.  No warranty beyond that
the filament was good when it left here.  It looks clean to look at it, not
burned.

On 2/9/09, Mike Sawyer <w3slk at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I always wanted a rig that uses the 833. It such a neat and different tube.
> I have a good supply of 810's so I figured a pair will modulate one nicely.
> I like the BTA-500/1MX's. As a matter of fact, I was supposed to be
> wheeling
> and dealing on a -500MX with Eric, WB4VVI (SK) before he went SK. Oh well.
> I
> like the prospects of the 810's and the single 833. It won't weigh near as
> much as one of those boxes. I have some nice black krinkle panels so a
> krinkle motif is in the cards.
> Mod-U-Lator,
> Mike(y)
> W3SLK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Lyles" <jtml at losalamos.com>
> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:39 AM
> Subject: [AMRadio] single 833
>
>
> There's a fellow near me that built a single 833 modulated by a single 833,
> one of a class A bias-changing heising design. I gave him a big reactor for
> it. I can get details if anyone wants.
>
> 73,
> John
> K5PRO
> on the road from Oklahoma City this morning
>
>
>
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From collinsradio at comcast.net  Mon Feb  9 16:44:19 2009
From: collinsradio at comcast.net (David Knepper)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:44:19 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] single 833
References: <0819ff611a57fa68de8b96c63407dbdc@losalamos.com><7290320F049F4BAC8179FE74B5CC5613@FAMILY>
	<b0295dbe0902091336i63fd0101m346138e4ce9c11eb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c98aff$90001d70$6701a8c0@davealan>

I have a brand new 833A RCA and several pulls.

Please make an offer.

David Knepper, W3ST/W3CRA
Editor of the Collins Journal
Collins Radio Association
www.collinsra.com
Join the CRA 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Isbell, W5JAI 
  To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] single 833


  I have an 833 that shows continuity on the filament...only test I can do....that I would trade for something interesting.  No warranty beyond that the filament was good when it left here.  It looks clean to look at it, not burned.


  On 2/9/09, Mike Sawyer <w3slk at verizon.net> wrote:
    I always wanted a rig that uses the 833. It such a neat and different tube.
    I have a good supply of 810's so I figured a pair will modulate one nicely.
    I like the BTA-500/1MX's. As a matter of fact, I was supposed to be wheeling
    and dealing on a -500MX with Eric, WB4VVI (SK) before he went SK. Oh well. I
    like the prospects of the 810's and the single 833. It won't weigh near as
    much as one of those boxes. I have some nice black krinkle panels so a
    krinkle motif is in the cards.
    Mod-U-Lator,
    Mike(y)
    W3SLK
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "John Lyles" <jtml at losalamos.com>
    To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
    Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:39 AM
    Subject: [AMRadio] single 833


    There's a fellow near me that built a single 833 modulated by a single 833,
    one of a class A bias-changing heising design. I gave him a big reactor for
    it. I can get details if anyone wants.

    73,
    John
    K5PRO
    on the road from Oklahoma City this morning



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From k9muf at comcast.net  Mon Feb  9 17:19:17 2009
From: k9muf at comcast.net (k9muf at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:19:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] single 833
In-Reply-To: <7290320F049F4BAC8179FE74B5CC5613@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <1462239605.3417891234217957953.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I built a transmitter with a single 833A modulated by a pair of 810s. I chose that combination of tubes because of their looks and also because they do not require any forced air cooling.
I put windows in front of the tubes so one can see the tubes glow.What a beautiful sight.

I used my own design based on ideas from many of the old handbooks, mostly the Editors and Engineers. Most of the information was not specific to an 833A but to triodes in general. The circuit was varied to fit the parts I had on hand and to the specifications of the 833A.

I used a modulation transformer and reactor from a 1kw broadcast transmitter. 
I am using a pair of 6L6s to drive the 810s. For the interstage transformer I rewound the secondary of an output transformer from an old broadcast receiver that used a pair of 6L6s in the output stage.

I am using a common plate power supply for both the RF and modulator tubes that puts out about 2200 volts.

The RF carrier power is about 300 watts when driven with about 35 watts.

Now here is the problem I am having with it. 
I am getting acoustical talkback when it is modulated and I can't find out where it is coming from. I have temporarily substituted a different mod transformer and bypassed the mod reactor, but I am still getting it. 
So that is where I am at now. I don't want to put it on the air until I get that problem resolved.

Don    K9MUF



----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Sawyer 

To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 

Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:13:24 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: Re: [AMRadio] single 833



I always wanted a rig that uses the 833. It such a neat and different tube. 

I have a good supply of 810's so I figured a pair will modulate one nicely. 

I like the BTA-500/1MX's. As a matter of fact, I was supposed to be wheeling 

and dealing on a -500MX with Eric, WB4VVI (SK) before he went SK. Oh well. I 

like the prospects of the 810's and the single 833. It won't weigh near as 

much as one of those boxes. I have some nice black krinkle panels so a 

krinkle motif is in the cards.

Mod-U-Lator,

Mike(y)

W3SLK

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "John Lyles" 

To: 

Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:39 AM

Subject: [AMRadio] single 833





There's a fellow near me that built a single 833 modulated by a single 833, 

one of a class A bias-changing heising design. I gave him a big reactor for 

it. I can get details if anyone wants.



73,

John

K5PRO

on the road from Oklahoma City this morning







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From jc at pctechref.com  Mon Feb  9 18:56:11 2009
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:56:11 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <006701c98ac4$56830520$03890f60$@net>
References: <20090209134950.44AEC3738192@mailman.qth.net>
	<900EE8F58CF9472D979405FDD8ADFB23@LeePC>
	<006701c98ac4$56830520$03890f60$@net>
Message-ID: <689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE401A070E58B57@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>

Otis is 87 yrs old.  I'll get back with you guys later.
John

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Peters
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:40 AM
To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

OTIS had his 85th Birthday party on Saturday... All the guys BXO/ SEE and a lot of others had for him but you are correct he is not on the air. Something like the floor in the shack is not safe... From what we hear he is doing well..You are correct on the sweet sounding rig...


Very Best 73's,

Bob W1PE
Mesquite,TX

http://www.w1pe.com




From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of LEE BAHR
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:59 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

Otis is alive, doesn't get on the air, lives in the far reaching Northern area of Houston, Tx. John Coleman, WA5BXO sees him from time to time.
Lee, w0vt
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Carpenter<mailto:bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net>
To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'<mailto:amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

What ever happen to Otis ? I can guess that by this time is may be a SK. I use to listen to him along with W4RKG on 75 meters in the 60's running some beautiful a.m.  I recall that Otis was in Shreveport La. Ma he had such a sweet a.m. sound.
I would listen to him along with a large group on 75 using a Allied "span master" reg. receiver that I build in 65.
Great memories, wish a.m. could be like that again.

Bob Carpenter
KB4WEC
bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net<mailto:bcarpenter_tpc at bellsouth.net>
________________________________
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:48 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

Maybe John/WA5BXO will read the messages soon.  Otis/K5SWK built one like this some years back and it still plays over at De Queen, AR.  Ken/KA5RHK still uses it.  I would imagine John can tell us what Otis did.

Jim/W5JO

----- Original Message -----

I would be interested myself.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message -----


Hello

          I like to build an AM transmitter with one tube 833A,any one have a circuit diagram...

many thanks
joe

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From jc at pctechref.com  Mon Feb  9 19:39:08 2009
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:39:08 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE401A070E58B57@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>
References: <20090209134950.44AEC3738192@mailman.qth.net>
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	<006701c98ac4$56830520$03890f60$@net>
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Ok here's the deal.  Otis runs a single 833 in the class C final and modulates with a pair .  The single 833A is in a circuit for push pull but only has the one tube in it. and only one nuetralizing capacitor and only one coupling capacitor to the ballanced tank with swinging link.  The grid circuit is a push pull tank but  any other typewill work  as it's only function is to supply the proper driver to the final grid.  The plate tank is a push pull balance type because the phase inversion for the neutralizing cap is accomplished by the ballanced plate tank.  The tank circuit is shunt fed to keep the DC and audio off of the tank circuit.  The center tap of the coil does have a RF choke but it goes to ground to insure that there is no audio or DC on the tank components.  He used to run about 3000 volts on the plates but after the AM power reduction thing he ran about 2500V at 200 ma.  I can pretty much draw the circuit but you may wish to consult the web page at
http://www.qsl.net/wa5bxo/pptriodes/pptriodes.htm

Please note that the circuits do not depict the shunt feed tank coil.  But I can draw that up if someone needs it.
The above web page has not been proof read by anyone that is good at it, so there may be some spelling, grammer and other mistakes in it.

John, WA5BXO

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From johnmb at nc.rr.com  Mon Feb  9 20:04:43 2009
From: johnmb at nc.rr.com (John)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:04:43 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] GB> Cheap multimeter
In-Reply-To: <200902100055.n1A0t1IH019121@mail959c35.nsolutionszone.com>
References: <8CB58D9F0A191D7-1290-834@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com>
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Shipping for ChinaHarbor Freight is very nominal, and independent of 
weight,as I recall.... it's factored on cost of the item.
I think a 50lb vice for $60 will sell the same cost as a $60 set of 
micrometers, unless they've changed...

John




At 07:54 PM 02/09/2009, Gary Pewitt wrote:

>Unfortunately the coupons are only good for in store purchases.  They are 
>missing a lot of business from me because of that.  The nearest store is 
>about 60 miles away so it's not
>much good to me.  I do buy a lot by Internet if the items are fairly 
>small.  It's only worth a trip for large heavy items.  Probably a lot of 
>people in the same situation.
>73  Gary
>
>
>
>
>At 08:29 AM 2/9/2009, sbjohnston at aol.com wrote:
>
>>Harbor Freight has their red digital multimeters on sale for $2.99.
>>And I received a coupon by email from them that gets the meters for $1.99.
>>
>>http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=90899
>>
>>
>>Steve WD8DAS
>>
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>>http://www.wd8das.net/
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From nf4a at knology.net  Tue Feb 10 00:00:41 2009
From: nf4a at knology.net (Charles Wooten NF4A)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:00:41 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free
Message-ID: <BD6ADAE5A8AE4277BDBD537B5310919C@Wooten>

I have access to a free CCA Electronics Model 1000-D AM broadcast
transmitter.

It must be picked up as soon as possible and you are responsible for all
loading and moving out of the building. The transmitter is in Southern
Alabama. This would be a great rig for 160 or 75 meters. The transmitter is
currently on the low end of the AM band....560 kHz. This transmitter was
working when taken out of service 2 years ago. It has a pair of 4-400As
modulating a pair of 4-400As.

THIS IS FOR HAM RADIO USE ONLY.....I will be your worst nightmare if I catch
you trying to sell it on eBay or putting on the broadcast band, etc.

Please have interested parties contact me ASAP....first come, first served.
Remember it must be picked up as soon as possible.

73

Charlie NF4A
nf4a at clearchannel.com


From wb8bem at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 10 01:34:27 2009
From: wb8bem at yahoo.com (Gary)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:34:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free
In-Reply-To: <BD6ADAE5A8AE4277BDBD537B5310919C@Wooten>
Message-ID: <300820.77624.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

charles,
?
I'd be interested if it would fit in my Oddessy van.
ALways wanted to try 4-400's all I've done are 833a's
?
Gary K4XK

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Charles Wooten NF4A <nf4a at knology.net> wrote:

From: Charles Wooten NF4A <nf4a at knology.net>
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 11:00 PM

I have access to a free CCA Electronics Model 1000-D AM broadcast
transmitter.

It must be picked up as soon as possible and you are responsible for all
loading and moving out of the building. The transmitter is in Southern
Alabama. This would be a great rig for 160 or 75 meters. The transmitter is
currently on the low end of the AM band....560 kHz. This transmitter was
working when taken out of service 2 years ago. It has a pair of 4-400As
modulating a pair of 4-400As.

THIS IS FOR HAM RADIO USE ONLY.....I will be your worst nightmare if I catch
you trying to sell it on eBay or putting on the broadcast band, etc.

Please have interested parties contact me ASAP....first come, first served.
Remember it must be picked up as soon as possible.

73

Charlie NF4A
nf4a at clearchannel.com

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From frolik at gulftel.com  Tue Feb 10 02:13:42 2009
From: frolik at gulftel.com (Skip Frolik)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:13:42 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free
In-Reply-To: <BD6ADAE5A8AE4277BDBD537B5310919C@Wooten>
References: <BD6ADAE5A8AE4277BDBD537B5310919C@Wooten>
Message-ID: <002101c98b4f$1b774b90$0401a8c0@FROLIK4XP>

Not to step on any feelings that may have come before me ....
But .... where in Southern Alabama ?????
I ask because I'm in Loxley slap dab between Mobile Alabama
and Pensacola Florida on the coast.
Also I think my Diesel F-250 4x4 and 20 foot trailer ought
to be able to load and tote that critter  .... Hehehe.
In addition I never sell "Nuttin" or throw "Nuttin" away.
If you don't believe me .... ask the wife. But be ready
for an ear full ....

Skip
WB4GMQ/AAV4HC

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Charles Wooten NF4A
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:01 PM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free

I have access to a free CCA Electronics Model 1000-D AM broadcast
transmitter.

It must be picked up as soon as possible and you are responsible for all
loading and moving out of the building. The transmitter is in Southern
Alabama. This would be a great rig for 160 or 75 meters. The transmitter is
currently on the low end of the AM band....560 kHz. This transmitter was
working when taken out of service 2 years ago. It has a pair of 4-400As
modulating a pair of 4-400As.

THIS IS FOR HAM RADIO USE ONLY.....I will be your worst nightmare if I catch
you trying to sell it on eBay or putting on the broadcast band, etc.

Please have interested parties contact me ASAP....first come, first served.
Remember it must be picked up as soon as possible.

73

Charlie NF4A
nf4a at clearchannel.com

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From youngbob53 at msn.com  Tue Feb 10 14:08:33 2009
From: youngbob53 at msn.com (Bob Young)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:08:33 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
In-Reply-To: <mailman.95.1234285213.31806.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.95.1234285213.31806.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W31BEE25242DD00658097D8C6BD0@phx.gbl>


If it will fit in the back of a 95 Roadmaster wagon and also fit into a 2nd story apartment in MA I'll be there.... well.... I can dream anyway right?

Bob Young
Analog, MA
KB1OKL


> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:00:41 -0600
> From: "Charles Wooten NF4A" <nf4a at knology.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free

> 
> I have access to a free CCA Electronics Model 1000-D AM broadcast
> transmitter.
> 
> It must be picked up as soon as possible and you are responsible for all
> loading and moving out of the building. The transmitter is in Southern
> Alabama. This would be a great rig for 160 or 75 meters. The transmitter is
> currently on the low end of the AM band....560 kHz. This transmitter was
> working when taken out of service 2 years ago. It has a pair of 4-400As
> modulating a pair of 4-400As.
> 
> THIS IS FOR HAM RADIO USE ONLY.....I will be your worst nightmare if I catch
> you trying to sell it on eBay or putting on the broadcast band, etc.
> 
> Please have interested parties contact me ASAP....first come, first served.
> Remember it must be picked up as soon as possible.
> 
> 73
> 
> Charlie NF4A
> nf4a at clearchannel.com
> 
> ***********

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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 10 16:07:50 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:07:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
References: <mailman.95.1234285213.31806.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY101-W31BEE25242DD00658097D8C6BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <243028.28138.qm@web83406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Can't be fined for dreaming! The CCA 1000 is about 4 1/2'?- 5' wide and 2' or so deep +/- 3dB. If the person who ends up with the box needs one, I?think.... I have a schematic. 


Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Bob Young <youngbob53 at msn.com>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:08:33 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available

If it will fit in the back of a 95 Roadmaster wagon and also fit into a 2nd story apartment in MA I'll be there.... well.... I can dream anyway right?

Bob Young
Analog, MA
KB1OKL


> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:00:41 -0600
> From: "Charles Wooten NF4A" <nf4a at knology.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available--free

> 
> I have access to a free CCA Electronics Model 1000-D AM broadcast
> transmitter.
> 
> It must be picked up as soon as possible and you are responsible for all
> loading and moving out of the building. The transmitter is in Southern
> Alabama. This would be a great rig for 160 or 75 meters. The transmitter is
> currently on the low end of the AM band....560 kHz. This transmitter was
> working when taken out of service 2 years ago. It has a pair of 4-400As
> modulating a pair of 4-400As.
> 
> THIS IS FOR HAM RADIO USE ONLY.....I will be your worst nightmare if I catch
> you trying to sell it on eBay or putting on the broadcast band, etc.
> 
> Please have interested parties contact me ASAP....first come, first served.
> Remember it must be picked up as soon as possible.
> 
> 73
> 
> Charlie NF4A
> nf4a at clearchannel.com
> 
> ***********

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From: Ke5fkf at aol.com (Ke5fkf at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:14:49 EST
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
Message-ID: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>

im gona be in n fla. in a  week would like to be able to get that im  picking 
up some collins gear cand you call me im good on qrz,... w5tmg  73s
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From nf4a at knology.net  Tue Feb 10 21:47:37 2009
From: nf4a at knology.net (Charles Wooten NF4A)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:47:37 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
In-Reply-To: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>
References: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DD2CFA115183449D8B396403D57F5552@Wooten>

The lucky guy who got the CCA 1000D is Jerry K9GOZ....if I come up with
another one, I will subscribe to the list again.
 
73 Charlie NF4A
Clear Channel Radio
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 11 00:20:29 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:20:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
References: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>
	<DD2CFA115183449D8B396403D57F5552@Wooten>
Message-ID: <948901.11974.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jerry

Like I posted earlier, I think I have a large size?schematic for the thing left over from trying to resurrect one that had fried several too many times at KBST?in Big Spring, Texas. May it rest in pieces. It had water damage, bird's nests, rodent damage, and?far too many encounters with Zeus to make it worth saving. Not to mention snake skins inside..........

Not to mention that the initials CCA are enough to give any broadcast engineer the willies.

Bill AD5OL




________________________________
From: Charles Wooten NF4A <nf4a at knology.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available


The lucky guy who got the CCA 1000D is Jerry K9GOZ....if I come up with another one, I will subscribe to the list again.
?
73 Charlie NF4A
Clear Channel Radio
Panama City, FL
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From cliogunsmith at centurytel.net  Wed Feb 11 08:50:40 2009
From: cliogunsmith at centurytel.net (Gerald Stockinger)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:50:40 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
In-Reply-To: <948901.11974.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>	<DD2CFA115183449D8B396403D57F5552@Wooten>
	<948901.11974.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4992D7B0.2050106@centurytel.net>

Hi Bill, I would be delighted to have a large size schematic of the rig. 
These are great when you are servicing a rig cause they can be hung up 
in front of you. If you would be so kind as to send it to me at:

   
Gerald D, Stockinger K9GOZ
3360 Elamville St.
Clio, Alabama 36017

Let me know what you would like for it and I will happily send you a 
check. Thanks Jerry



BILL GUYGER wrote:
> Jerry
>  
> Like I posted earlier, I think I have a large size schematic for the 
> thing left over from trying to resurrect one that had fried several 
> too many times at KBST in Big Spring, Texas. May it rest in pieces. It 
> had water damage, bird's nests, rodent damage, and far too many 
> encounters with Zeus to make it worth saving. Not to mention snake 
> skins inside..........
>  
> Not to mention that the initials CCA are enough to give any broadcast 
> engineer the willies.
>  
> Bill AD5OL
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Charles Wooten NF4A <nf4a at knology.net>
> *To:* Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
>
> The lucky guy who got the CCA 1000D is Jerry K9GOZ....if I come up 
> with another one, I will subscribe to the list again.
>  
> 73 Charlie NF4A
> Clear Channel Radio
> Panama City, FL
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Wed Feb 11 09:48:02 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:48:02 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] VIM video clip
Message-ID: <008f01c98c57$bddd4c50$3997e4f0$@net>

This is a great Video...It shows some really neat
gear along with great baluns and antennas it is 9
min long and well worth watching... They have
Collins, Kenwood, Rca and a host of other stuff in
the video.. A bank of Collins 651S1 receivers...
Bob W1PE


For those of you with marine radio experience in
the south Pacific who
may've worked Melbourne Radio VIM (at any time
between 1912-2002) this
video clip might be nostalgic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMnDN4mncSs 

The BA link is probably the alarming spectacle of
me trying to reef out
the rfpa of the 2kW AWA 400-500 kHz tx at 5'16"
(white shirt, glasses)
to have a look at the 3 x 4CX1500 in parallel ( I
was more successful on
a later visit when I had the sea-going beard see
7'01")

The Mayday relay calls at the beginning are real -
recorded during a
particularly nasty Sydney-Hobart yacht race in
January 1998. 

73 Nigel VK3DZ


From k2ki at starc.org  Wed Feb 11 10:11:13 2009
From: k2ki at starc.org (Bob Bruno - K2KI)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:11:13 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] VIM video clip
In-Reply-To: <008f01c98c57$bddd4c50$3997e4f0$@net>
References: <008f01c98c57$bddd4c50$3997e4f0$@net>
Message-ID: <4992EA91.3030903@starc.org>

Hi Bob,

Thank you for posting that link. I enjoyed watching it very much. While 
I do not have any marine experience, I can appreciate everything that 
the video depicted.

Quite a shame that these stations are becoming a thing of the past. All 
digital, satellite and SS equipment taking its place. Perhaps when the 
sun peaks next, the resulting solar storms will force the comeback of 
"REAL" tube stations :-)

73, cul...
Bob de k2ki

Bob Peters wrote:
> This is a great Video...It shows some really neat
> gear along with great baluns and antennas it is 9
> min long and well worth watching... They have
> Collins, Kenwood, Rca and a host of other stuff in
> the video.. A bank of Collins 651S1 receivers...
> Bob W1PE
>
>
> For those of you with marine radio experience in
> the south Pacific who
> may've worked Melbourne Radio VIM (at any time
> between 1912-2002) this
> video clip might be nostalgic...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMnDN4mncSs 
>
> The BA link is probably the alarming spectacle of
> me trying to reef out
> the rfpa of the 2kW AWA 400-500 kHz tx at 5'16"
> (white shirt, glasses)
> to have a look at the 3 x 4CX1500 in parallel ( I
> was more successful on
> a later visit when I had the sea-going beard see
> 7'01")
>
> The Mayday relay calls at the beginning are real -
> recorded during a
> particularly nasty Sydney-Hobart yacht race in
> January 1998. 
>
> 73 Nigel VK3DZ
>
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 11 11:08:10 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:08:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
References: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>
	<DD2CFA115183449D8B396403D57F5552@Wooten>
	<948901.11974.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4992D7B0.2050106@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <412414.65231.qm@web83402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jerry

I had?it stashed with some other stuff in my shop at the KLIF transmitter site. I'll try to get up there later today or tonight and see if I really still have it. Don't worry about paying.

Bill


?


----- Original Message ----
From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:50:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available

Hi Bill, I would be delighted to have a large size schematic of the rig. 
These are great when you are servicing a rig cause they can be hung up 
in front of you. If you would be so kind as to send it to me at:

? 
Gerald D, Stockinger K9GOZ
3360 Elamville St.
Clio, Alabama 36017

Let me know what you would like for it and I will happily send you a 
check. Thanks Jerry



BILL GUYGER wrote:
> Jerry
>? 
> Like I posted earlier, I think I have a large size schematic for the 
> thing left over from trying to resurrect one that had fried several 
> too many times at KBST in Big Spring, Texas. May it rest in pieces. It 
> had water damage, bird's nests, rodent damage, and far too many 
> encounters with Zeus to make it worth saving. Not to mention snake 
> skins inside..........
>? 
> Not to mention that the initials CCA are enough to give any broadcast 
> engineer the willies.
>? 
> Bill AD5OL
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Charles Wooten NF4A <nf4a at knology.net>
> *To:* Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
>
> The lucky guy who got the CCA 1000D is Jerry K9GOZ....if I come up 
> with another one, I will subscribe to the list again.
>? 
> 73 Charlie NF4A
> Clear Channel Radio
> Panama City, FL
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 11 17:53:34 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:53:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
References: <bc4.409d5a62.36c34849@aol.com>
	<DD2CFA115183449D8B396403D57F5552@Wooten>
	<948901.11974.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4992D7B0.2050106@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <915263.23146.qm@web83402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jerry

I do indeed still have the schematic. I'll get in in an envelope by tomorrow. Again, don't worry about cost, glad to be able to assist. BTW I was able to salvage some parts out of the 1000 from Big Spring like the auto transformers and some of the coils in the output section. I couldn't wrestle any of the other iorn into the back of the truck by myself, and most of the other parts of ham intrest weren't worth saving cracked door knobs for example. Let me know if you need any of the above.

Just looking at the schematic, you might be intrested in converting the PA output network to a PI-EL like I'm doing to my Bauer 707. Use the existing coils and add a couple of variable caps. I used Jim Tonne's PIEL software to calculate the values. It's a free download from Jim's website.

Bill



----- Original Message ----
From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:50:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available

Hi Bill, I would be delighted to have a large size schematic of the rig. 
These are great when you are servicing a rig cause they can be hung up 
in front of you. If you would be so kind as to send it to me at:

? 
Gerald D, Stockinger K9GOZ
3360 Elamville St.
Clio, Alabama 36017

Let me know what you would like for it and I will happily send you a 
check. Thanks Jerry



BILL GUYGER wrote:
> Jerry
>? 
> Like I posted earlier, I think I have a large size schematic for the 
> thing left over from trying to resurrect one that had fried several 
> too many times at KBST in Big Spring, Texas. May it rest in pieces. It 
> had water damage, bird's nests, rodent damage, and far too many 
> encounters with Zeus to make it worth saving. Not to mention snake 
> skins inside..........
>? 
> Not to mention that the initials CCA are enough to give any broadcast 
> engineer the willies.
>? 
> Bill AD5OL
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Charles Wooten NF4A <nf4a at knology.net>
> *To:* Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
>
> The lucky guy who got the CCA 1000D is Jerry K9GOZ....if I come up 
> with another one, I will subscribe to the list again.
>? 
> 73 Charlie NF4A
> Clear Channel Radio
> Panama City, FL
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From tchesek at epix.net  Wed Feb 11 19:13:10 2009
From: tchesek at epix.net (Tom Chesek)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:13:10 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Upcoming AM activity
Message-ID: <656262E306BB4FE4885A1DC0740A7529@gateway26c4d6d>

I thought that I would throw out this reminder to those AM lovers out there that the next two weekends will provide opportunities to dust off those old AM rigs and have some smooth sounding AM QSO's in no pressure contests.

The Classic Exchange for AM/SSB/FM will be on Sunday February 15th starting at 9 AM EST. Here is a link to that information:
http://qsl.asti.com/CX/Feb2009announcement.html

The Antiquewireless Association will have their AM QSO Party starting Saturday February 21st at 6 PM EST. Here is a link to their information:
http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/amateur0109.htm

I hope to be there on both weekends with my Heathkit DX-100 and Mohawk Receiver.

Feel free to forward this message to your friends or other lists that might have an interest in these events.

73,
Tom K3TVC
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From jmac6235 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 11 20:41:53 2009
From: jmac6235 at yahoo.com (J.D. MacAulay, WQ8U)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:41:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Upcoming AM activity
In-Reply-To: <656262E306BB4FE4885A1DC0740A7529@gateway26c4d6d>
Message-ID: <298968.71104.qm@web54605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Tom,
Thanks for giving the community a heads up.
Hope to work you in CX
73
Mac
WQ8U
Hillsborough, NC


--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Tom Chesek <tchesek at epix.net> wrote:

> From: Tom Chesek <tchesek at epix.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Upcoming AM activity
> To: Heathkit at mailman.qth.net, HEATH at LISTS.TEMPE.GOV, "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>, antiquewirelessassociation at yahoogroups.com, cc-awa at yahoogroups.com, BOATANCHORS at LISTS.TEMPE.GOV
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 7:13 PM
> I thought that I would throw out this reminder to those AM
> lovers out there that the next two weekends will provide
> opportunities to dust off those old AM rigs and have some
> smooth sounding AM QSO's in no pressure contests.
> 
> The Classic Exchange for AM/SSB/FM will be on Sunday
> February 15th starting at 9 AM EST. Here is a link to that
> information:
> http://qsl.asti.com/CX/Feb2009announcement.html
> 
> The Antiquewireless Association will have their AM QSO
> Party starting Saturday February 21st at 6 PM EST. Here is a
> link to their information:
> http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/amateur0109.htm
> 
> I hope to be there on both weekends with my Heathkit DX-100
> and Mohawk Receiver.
> 
> Feel free to forward this message to your friends or other
> lists that might have an interest in these events.
> 
> 73,
> Tom
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From Holmes.Nigel at abc.net.au  Wed Feb 11 22:34:40 2009
From: Holmes.Nigel at abc.net.au (Nigel Holmes)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:34:40 +1100
Subject: [AMRadio] VIM video clip
Message-ID: <200902120333.n1C3XgJE018220@nucfw08.abc.net.au>

 Don't get too excited about 651S1 receivers - we found them to be
temperamental & unreliable. And pigs of things to service. Given the
choice of one of them or a 51S1 ... 

Cheers  Nigel VK3DZ



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 1:48 AM
To: mesquiteham at yahoogroups.com; 'Jim Heye'; dfwporsche at aol.com; 'AM';
Jay_Miller
Subject: [AMRadio] VIM video clip

This is a great Video...It shows some really neat gear along with great
baluns and antennas it is 9 min long and well worth watching... They
have Collins, Kenwood, Rca and a host of other stuff in the video.. A
bank of Collins 651S1 receivers...
Bob W1PE



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From hepcatrevival at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 11 22:57:24 2009
From: hepcatrevival at yahoo.com (Ken Zuercher)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:57:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
In-Reply-To: <948901.11974.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <500085.47879.qm@web82403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is hilarious! I have to agree about CCA but a 1KW can' be all that bad. BTW, wouldn't the worst encounter be with Thor (the god of Thunder)?
I can relate to all of the critters inside.
Ken KC8QO


--- On Wed, 2/11/09, BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: BILL GUYGER <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:20 AM
> Jerry
> 
> Like I posted earlier, I think I have a large
> size?schematic for the thing left over from trying to
> resurrect one that had fried several too many times at
> KBST?in Big Spring, Texas. May it rest in pieces. It had
> water damage, bird's nests, rodent damage, and?far too
> many encounters with Zeus to make it worth saving. Not to
> mention snake skins inside..........
> 
> Not to mention that the initials CCA are enough to give any
> broadcast engineer the willies.
> 
> Bill AD5OL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
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> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:47:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
> 
> 
> The lucky guy who got the CCA 1000D is Jerry K9GOZ....if I
> come up with another one, I will subscribe to the list
> again.
> ?
> 73 Charlie NF4A
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From k4kyv at charter.net  Thu Feb 12 11:44:35 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:44:35 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
References: <mailman.95.1234285213.31806.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <EA090A9C7D204526AA4DF30B2730DF02@D65Y8B21>

> From: John Coleman <jc at pctechref.com>

> Ok here's the deal.  Otis runs a single 833 in the class C final and 
> modulates with a pair .  The single 833A is in a circuit for push pull but 
> only has the one tube in it. and only one nuetralizing capacitor and only 
> one coupling capacitor to the ballanced tank with swinging link.  The grid 
> circuit is a push pull tank but  any other typewill work  as it's only 
> function is to supply the proper driver to the final grid.  The plate tank 
> is a push pull balance type because the phase inversion for the 
> neutralizing cap is accomplished by the ballanced plate tank.  The tank 
> circuit is shunt fed to keep the DC and audio off of the tank circuit. 
> The center tap of the >coil does have a RF choke but it goes to ground to 
> insure that there is no audio or DC on the tank components.

I could have sworn when I lived in Houston that he had a pair of 833A's in 
the final of that  rig.  Did he once run a pair and later take one out?  I 
also remember the unique spiral wound output coupling link as opposed to the 
more common solenoidal form, with each turn the same diameter and all turns 
side-by-side.

I have thought about duplicating that link, because it would take up less 
space and allow more spacing between tank coil and link.  I series feed my 
tank coil, so it has the full modulated DC on it.  It has never arced over 
in the 36+ years since I built that rig, but if I finally get "round to" 
building the push-pull 833A rig I have had the parts for ever since I moved 
back here, I have thought about constructing the link in similar spiral 
fashion.  But one thing I don't recall is exactly how he gets the lead from 
the central turn back outside the coil, past the other turns.  Did he use 
some kind of insulation in between or just air spacing?  There shouldn't be 
much voltage across the link, so I wouldn't think a lot of insulation would 
be necessary, but winding in that form would allow 6-8 turns of link to fit 
into the same space as a 2-turn link.

I prefer to run the entire tank circuit above ground at full modulated plate 
voltage because that eliminates the problem of the plate choke(s), which 
must bear the full rf output voltage from the plate of the tube on all the 
bands that the transmitter works.  The RF choke to the midtap of the tank 
coil is connected at an rf null point, so it is much less critical, and 
about any choke will work if it is capable of carrying the plate current.

What did he ever do with the crapped-out 1930's vintage VM-5 modulation 
transformer he used to have sitting behind the transmitter at his old QTH? 
It would have been a shame to throw it away because that 600-watt 
transformer core with the audio laminations would be good for custom 
rewinding a new mod xfmr or mod reactor.  I understand UTC used a different 
grade of iron for winding audio transformers from what they used to wind 
power transformers.

Don k4kyv 


From k4kyv at charter.net  Thu Feb 12 12:12:49 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:12:49 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] VIM video clip
References: <mailman.5526.1234365078.30711.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <02D2A04AB434437B92667FB4DE5DCCB5@D65Y8B21>

> Quite a shame that these stations are becoming a thing of the past. All
> digital, satellite and SS equipment taking its place. Perhaps when the
> sun peaks next, the resulting solar storms will force the comeback of
> "REAL" tube stations :-)

> Bob de k2ki

The real shame is that most of that equipment and antenna hardware may well 
have ended up in a landfill or at a metal recycler.  Those were quite some 
open-wire feeder systems and tower arrays.  Wouldn't mind having a few of 
those on my 100 acres.


Don k4kyv


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From k4kyv at charter.net  Thu Feb 12 12:18:14 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:18:14 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
References: <mailman.113.1234371620.25704.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <99FBA85662534DDE8ABBD09FD19D176A@D65Y8B21>

>> Like I posted earlier, I think I have a large size schematic for the
>> thing left over from trying to resurrect one that had fried several
>> too many times at KBST in Big Spring, Texas. May it rest in pieces. It
>> had water damage, bird's nests, rodent damage, and far too many
>> encounters with Zeus to make it worth saving. Not to mention snake
>> skins inside..........
>> Bill AD5OL

I hope someone salvaged the modulation and power supply iron and rf tank 
components before the rest of the rig went to the scrap heap.

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From jtml at losalamos.com  Thu Feb 12 20:40:37 2009
From: jtml at losalamos.com (John Lyles)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:40:37 -0700
Subject: [AMRadio] Reusing old UTC mod transformers
Message-ID: <ea4913cc3285eaf61ff57d994caf8c4a@losalamos.com>

I'm glad you said this (about the VM5) as I have a faulty VM4 that I bought from Ed Grothus' Black Hole junkyard in Los Alamos, it has sat out in the weather for years. Its the old style, not the CVM style in a can. (I have one of those too)
When I tried to fire up this old VM4 to play with on a DX100, i smelled ozone and think it was sparking inside from the HV. So I won't salvage the thing, will save it for the day that someone wants one to rewind....
Ed Grothus (look him up on the web, or the Black Hole) passed away today. His salvage yard is amazing, I went there yesterday and the old tube Tek scopes (5xx series) were stacked like firewood in one aisle. Unfortunately nothing is inventoried 
and it is impossible to find anything due to piles on top of piles. I am afraid that it may all get bulldozed - lthough his family may try to sell off all they can now. 

Don, I almost looked you up Sunday as i drove past Nashville. But I kept driving, had 2200 new miles on the car when I got back to NM Monday afternoon. 

73
John 
K5PRO

> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:44:35 -0600
> From: "D. Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig

> 
> What did he ever do with the crapped-out 1930's vintage VM-5 modulation 
> transformer he used to have sitting behind the transmitter at his old QTH? 
> It would have been a shame to throw it away because that 600-watt 
> transformer core with the audio laminations would be good for custom 
> rewinding a new mod xfmr or mod reactor.  I understand UTC used a different 
> grade of iron for winding audio transformers from what they used to wind 
> power transformers.
> 
> Don k4kyv 


From jc at pctechref.com  Fri Feb 13 10:57:19 2009
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:57:19 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 833 AM rig
In-Reply-To: <EA090A9C7D204526AA4DF30B2730DF02@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.95.1234285213.31806.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<EA090A9C7D204526AA4DF30B2730DF02@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE401A070E58E77@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>

        As I recall, the swinging Formica bar was about 3/8 inch across and had feed through solder eyelets.  I'm sure it was roommy enough to allow the center lead to pass around with out much trouble.  I believe that his reasoning was to allow for more room and also to reduce the capacitance change at the center of the tank coil.  His belief was that this would cause an unbalance in the tank, little though it may be.

        Otis has never run push pull 833 RF finals, as for as I know, but for sure never in the rig since I have known him.  He said "I never want to be accused of running more that the 1KW input legal limit"  Of course the 833 could have run more than the 1KW input it would not have been significant enough to make a large difference.  And most of the tubes he had were pulls that would hardly hold grid drive up for high plate current.

        The double RF choke for shunt coupling is a pain.  I had so much trouble with hot spots on chokes that I wound a special RF choke for the purpose.  It was wound on two 1.5 inch by 5 inch ceramic forms.  I wound with #20 enamel wire 4 sections each, about 15 or 20 turns on each section, on each form.  The two forms were mounted on a plexiglass plate supported in the middle by a cermic insulator.  The tops of the coils went to the plate of the 304TLs and the common connection at the bottom went to another RF choke of high inductance but not a low capacitance choke.  The other choke went to the bypass and then to the modulated high voltage.  I found a real buy on some 500 pf 20KV coupling caps rates at about 7 amps of RF.  These monsters were about 3.5 inch in diameter and 2.5 inches thick with a metal plate on each end and a screw hole for a 1/4-20 screw.  The coupling capacitors then went to the ends of the tank circuit.  The center of the tank coil had a RF choke to ground.  With the coupling capacitors and the plate RF choke bypass the total capcitance as seen by the moulator was about 2000pf which is pretty high for most rigs but I ran about 1600 volts at 600 ma so the modualator load was a low Z and a little extra capacitace didn't hurt much.

        The 304TLs showed little color and the output was just under 800 watts.  The low impedance load that the final represented to the modulator was the reason for four 813s class AB2 in the modulator instead of just two.  I soon found that with good audio design in the speech amplifier and coupling that more voltage was needed to get the positive peaks up to where they would not flat top when the negative peaks wher just about the cut the carrier at 100%.  After raising the modulator supply voltage to 2700 volts I was able to keep the peaks from flat topping on the scope at 3 time the carrier level.

John, WA5BXO

From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb 13 16:30:34 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:30:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available
References: <mailman.113.1234371620.25704.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<99FBA85662534DDE8ABBD09FD19D176A@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <597273.77271.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well.......it was my intent to do so. I pulled them out, set them to the side and asked the station's operations manager to tell the people he was having move the carcass out to leave them so I could pick them up on my next trip. They didn't. 

I also told him to tell the painting and repair guy who had started caulking heavily around the old cracked Plexiglas feed line exit panel?to stop because I was going to replace it with a new piece of 1/2" Lexan. He didn't do that either. I had to spend half a day digging 2 or 3 tubes of caulk out so I could put in the new panel.

Some people need to have their Push to Listen Switch exercised more than others.

Bill AD5OL



----- Original Message ----
From: D. Chester <k4kyv at charter.net>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:18:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 kw broadcast transmitter available

>>
I hope someone salvaged the modulation and power supply iron and rf tank 
components before the rest of the rig went to the scrap heap.

Don k4kyv


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From youngbob53 at msn.com  Fri Feb 13 17:27:48 2009
From: youngbob53 at msn.com (Bob Young)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:27:48 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Wrong Al
In-Reply-To: <20081120090106.BF9B7859CA6@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20081120090106.BF9B7859CA6@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W3102D72B5BD737E8861910C6B80@phx.gbl>


Hi Al,

Sorry wrong Al, read it quickly and thought you were Al Parker

Bob
KB1OKL

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> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:19:02 -0500
> From: "Al Waller" <k3tkj at qsl.net>
> Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
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> Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to WA3GGM
> as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm has
> rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be mine
> after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM station
> that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and haul it
> home..... thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.
> 
> So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much will
> be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.
> 
> 73, Al  K3TKJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:03:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: neal Newman <cozy659 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
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> Phil  K2PG is the guy you need...
>  
> Neal
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Al Waller <k3tkj at qsl.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Al Waller <k3tkj at qsl.net>
> > Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
> > To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 8:19 PM
> > Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I
> > passed on to WA3GGM
> > as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his
> > enthusiasm has
> > rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This
> > one will be mine
> > after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at
> > a 500w AM station
> > that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go
> > get it and haul it
> > home..... thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.
> > 
> > So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru
> > and how much will
> > be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.
> > 
> > 73, Al  K3TKJ
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From wa3vjb at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 13 18:40:45 2009
From: wa3vjb at yahoo.com (VJB)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:40:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Ed Grothus and The Black Hole
Message-ID: <318220.4100.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

John, K5PRO, thanks for passing word that Ed Grothus has passed away.

One of the best vignettes is this YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPYqyRsheCg


      

From rickb at tx.rr.com  Fri Feb 13 19:34:24 2009
From: rickb at tx.rr.com (Rick)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:34:24 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Ed Grothus and The Black Hole
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References: <318220.4100.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I talked to Ed several times over the years looking for rare and weird
parts. Some he had, some he didn't, but he was always Ed. I will miss
him.
Rick/K5IAR


John, K5PRO, thanks for passing word that Ed Grothus has passed away.

One of the best vignettes is this YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPYqyRsheCg




From cliogunsmith at centurytel.net  Sat Feb 14 13:21:23 2009
From: cliogunsmith at centurytel.net (Gerald Stockinger)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:21:23 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
Message-ID: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>

To all who responded, commented, offered help, and laughed. On Wednesday 
afternoon I went to the station with two of my men. There I met Mike 
Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer. We spent about two hours 
removing all the heavy iron and loading it in my covered  pickup. Some 
one had marked all the leads with Brady wire markers so all we had to do 
is remove them. On Thursday we went back with a fourth man and a trailer 
and loaded the cabinet and brought it home. This rig has been properly 
maintained throughout its years of service and will require little to 
get it on the air. The output configuration is already a pi-L net with 
an adjustable 2nd harmonic filter connected between the two sections to 
ground. Converting this to ham service will not be a problem. A complete 
set of manuals was included. Since I have a new T368 exciter I am even 
looking to use that and bandswitching the whole thing to a least 160 to 
40. I have many projects to work on but this one some how got to the top 
of the list. Since the tubes are mounted right behind the front panel a  
viewing window will be installed and one more high powered AM rig will 
"Glow in the Dark" Thanks to Charles N4FA, and Mike N4RMS.
Jerry K9GOZ

From k4kyv at charter.net  Sat Feb 14 15:09:24 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:09:24 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
References: <mailman.81.1234630814.8293.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <0D19E4FD515D417984C87373A2E19040@D65Y8B21>

>> So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much 
>> will
>> be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.
>>
>> 73, Al  K3TKJ

Why be content to operate on just ONE frequency?

It is very easy to convert those xtal oscillator stages to function as 
buffer stages for an external VFO, and to make rf stages the rig tuneable 
across the band so that the rig will function with VFO or multiple xtals.

If you have a VFO with low impedance output, and capable of at least 0.25 
watts, the best solution is to ground the grid of the xtal oscillator stage, 
disconnect any feedback circuitry going to the cathode, add an rf choke from 
cathode to ground if necessary, and inject the rf signal from the VFO 
directly to the cathode through a coupling capacitor.  That is what I do 
with my Gates BC1-T and homebrew HF-300 transmitter.  With the other 
homebrew rig presently tuned to 40m, I inject the VFO signal directly to the 
control grid of the 6AG7 1st buffer/amplifier stage.

I converted my BC1-T to external VFO, which is a modified T-368 m.o. unit, 
and it will tune from 1800 to 2000 with all the transmitter tuned circuits 
accessible from the front panel, and the neutralisation holds perfectly from 
one end of the band to the other without readjustment.

One of the faults I find with much of the present-day AM operation on 160 
and 75 is the same as with the SSB dead-air groups: insisting on operating 
on one and only one frequency, with daily 8 to 10 member roundtables amidst 
QRM from adjacent QSO's less than 5 kHz away in both directions, while there 
may be tens of kHz of vacant space in other parts of the band.  We need to 
spread out a little and maintain more widespread AM presence throughout the 
bands, with reasonable sized QSO's and roundtable groups.

Don k4kyv



From k4kyv at charter.net  Sat Feb 14 15:23:24 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:23:24 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] AMRadio Digest, Vol 61, Issue 24
References: <mailman.81.1234630814.8293.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <3BCF4D39310645BF9DF788CE1357F1BD@D65Y8B21>

> Well.......it was my intent to do so. I pulled them out, set them to the 
> side and asked the station's operations manager to tell the people he was 
> having move the carcass out to leave them so I could pick them up on my 
> next trip. They didn't.
>
> I also told him to tell the painting and repair guy who had started 
> caulking heavily around the old cracked Plexiglas feed line exit panel?to 
> stop because I was going to replace it with a new piece of 1/2" Lexan. He 
> didn't do that either. I had to spend half a day digging 2 or 3 tubes of 
> caulk out so I could put in the new panel.
>
> Some people need to have their Push to Listen Switch exercised more than 
> others.
>
> Bill AD5OL

That's a shame about those components, but I would say, typical.  Rule # 1 
is to NEVER leave something you want to take home, lying around while 
trusting someone else to take care of it for you.  Use whatever means 
necessary to remove it from the premises immediately, or if that is 
absolutely totally impossible, secure it  with a wire rope and padlock like 
the ones stores use to secure removable items like lawnmowers, and securely 
attach a note that clearly states that this is not trash to be hauled away. 
People can be incredibly stupid when it comes to things like that.

Don k4kyv 


From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb 14 15:29:03 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:29:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
References: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <809563.32083.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jerry

I put you "D" size schematic for the 1000D?in the mail today. You ought to get it next week +/- Monday being a holiday.

Bill



----- Original Message ----
From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:21:23 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable

To all who responded, commented, offered help, and laughed. On Wednesday 
afternoon I went to the station with two of my men. There I met Mike 
Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer. We spent about two hours 
removing all the heavy iron and loading it in my covered? pickup. Some 
one had marked all the leads with Brady wire markers so all we had to do 
is remove them. On Thursday we went back with a fourth man and a trailer 
and loaded the cabinet and brought it home. This rig has been properly 
maintained throughout its years of service and will require little to 
get it on the air. The output configuration is already a pi-L net with 
an adjustable 2nd harmonic filter connected between the two sections to 
ground. Converting this to ham service will not be a problem. A complete 
set of manuals was included. Since I have a new T368 exciter I am even 
looking to use that and bandswitching the whole thing to a least 160 to 
40. I have many projects to work on but this one some how got to the top 
of the list. Since the tubes are mounted right behind the front panel a? 
viewing window will be installed and one more high powered AM rig will 
"Glow in the Dark" Thanks to Charles N4FA, and Mike N4RMS.
Jerry K9GOZ
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From kdud1 at hughes.net  Sat Feb 14 17:13:29 2009
From: kdud1 at hughes.net (Dudley)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:13:29 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
References: <mailman.81.1234630814.8293.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<0D19E4FD515D417984C87373A2E19040@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <D23F64CA32C0446E9211A4137ECE0F36@userb59j2h1np1>

Hello Al, alot of info on the 20V's @ Collins 20v group @ yahoo.com, if you 
need more 20v info contact me @ kdud1 at hughes.net, Dudley Parkin/W5DUD
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D. Chester" <k4kyv at charter.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


>>> So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much
>>> will
>>> be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.
>>>
>>> 73, Al  K3TKJ
>
> Why be content to operate on just ONE frequency?
>
> It is very easy to convert those xtal oscillator stages to function as
> buffer stages for an external VFO, and to make rf stages the rig tuneable
> across the band so that the rig will function with VFO or multiple xtals.
>
> If you have a VFO with low impedance output, and capable of at least 0.25
> watts, the best solution is to ground the grid of the xtal oscillator 
> stage,
> disconnect any feedback circuitry going to the cathode, add an rf choke 
> from
> cathode to ground if necessary, and inject the rf signal from the VFO
> directly to the cathode through a coupling capacitor.  That is what I do
> with my Gates BC1-T and homebrew HF-300 transmitter.  With the other
> homebrew rig presently tuned to 40m, I inject the VFO signal directly to 
> the
> control grid of the 6AG7 1st buffer/amplifier stage.
>
> I converted my BC1-T to external VFO, which is a modified T-368 m.o. unit,
> and it will tune from 1800 to 2000 with all the transmitter tuned circuits
> accessible from the front panel, and the neutralisation holds perfectly 
> from
> one end of the band to the other without readjustment.
>
> One of the faults I find with much of the present-day AM operation on 160
> and 75 is the same as with the SSB dead-air groups: insisting on operating
> on one and only one frequency, with daily 8 to 10 member roundtables 
> amidst
> QRM from adjacent QSO's less than 5 kHz away in both directions, while 
> there
> may be tens of kHz of vacant space in other parts of the band.  We need to
> spread out a little and maintain more widespread AM presence throughout 
> the
> bands, with reasonable sized QSO's and roundtable groups.
>
> Don k4kyv
>
>
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From crawfish at surfmore.net  Sat Feb 14 17:35:06 2009
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (Joe Crawford)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:35:06 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
References: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
	<809563.32083.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A59D223E46849C6B364F3B589159D62@homevs5lb1pw9n>

The mail goes on ,24-7, 365 days a year. Someone is moving the mail, it's 
just that we don't have access to the post office on holidays, FWIW. Will be 
looking for you on AM.
                                                                         Joe 
W4AAB


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BILL GUYGER" <bguyger at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable


Jerry

I put you "D" size schematic for the 1000D in the mail today. You ought to 
get it next week +/- Monday being a holiday.

Bill



----- Original Message ----
From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:21:23 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable

To all who responded, commented, offered help, and laughed. On Wednesday
afternoon I went to the station with two of my men. There I met Mike
Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer. We spent about two hours
removing all the heavy iron and loading it in my covered pickup. Some
one had marked all the leads with Brady wire markers so all we had to do
is remove them. On Thursday we went back with a fourth man and a trailer
and loaded the cabinet and brought it home. This rig has been properly
maintained throughout its years of service and will require little to
get it on the air. The output configuration is already a pi-L net with
an adjustable 2nd harmonic filter connected between the two sections to
ground. Converting this to ham service will not be a problem. A complete
set of manuals was included. Since I have a new T368 exciter I am even
looking to use that and bandswitching the whole thing to a least 160 to
40. I have many projects to work on but this one some how got to the top
of the list. Since the tubes are mounted right behind the front panel a
viewing window will be installed and one more high powered AM rig will
"Glow in the Dark" Thanks to Charles N4FA, and Mike N4RMS.
Jerry K9GOZ
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 20:38:03 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:38:03 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
In-Reply-To: <D23F64CA32C0446E9211A4137ECE0F36@userb59j2h1np1>
References: <mailman.81.1234630814.8293.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<0D19E4FD515D417984C87373A2E19040@D65Y8B21>
	<D23F64CA32C0446E9211A4137ECE0F36@userb59j2h1np1>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510902141738y454f5757ieb49a054ce27f71a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dudley <kdud1 at hughes.net> wrote:
> Hello Al, alot of info on the 20V's @ Collins 20v group

Which never made sense to me since these 'specialized' groups only
serve to splinter the knowledge base and stifle an overall technical
discussion that benefits all AMers. Just think how it would be if we
had a group for the Gates BC1-T also, or the RCA, GE, etc. BC
transmitters. Whatever, free country and all that.

Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
distance electrically for a VFO. Barry used to run a VFO on the 300G
and included a short cable with it for that purpose. I know someone
(maybe Paul, VJB?) actually removed the lower window in the door and
stuck the same T-368 unit inside their 300G. I'm hoping to have it
back on the air by fall and don't mind starting out crystal-controlled
to get things sorted out, but will want the flexibility to move around
for the exact reasons you mentioned. I'd like to have it on the bench
next to the transmitter, but that could end up being 8-10 feet going
through the transmitter's access holes.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 20:45:52 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:45:52 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
In-Reply-To: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
References: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510902141745m1b47aa03ne31a8fd7ae29aff6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Gerald Stockinger
<cliogunsmith at centurytel.net> wrote:
> To all who responded, commented, offered help, and laughed. On Wednesday
> afternoon I went to the station with two of my men. There I met Mike
> Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer.

Congrats, Jerry. Another fine transmitter spared from the scrap heap.
FWIW, my current BC transmitter project started in the summer of 2003
and still isn't done, though I did get the beast powered up a fre
months before moving south.

I look forward to working you sometime in the future. My BC
transmitter will reside only on 160 simply because I have other gear
to work the other bands. But hopefully we can have a BC-to-BC
transmitter contact at some point.

73 -

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From sbjohnston at aol.com  Sat Feb 14 20:47:45 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:47:45 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902141738y454f5757ieb49a054ce27f71a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.81.1234630814.8293.amradio@mailman.qth.net><0D19E4FD515D417984C87373A2E19040@D65Y8B21><D23F64CA32C0446E9211A4137ECE0F36@userb59j2h1np1>
	<9ccb8c510902141738y454f5757ieb49a054ce27f71a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CB5D2688B9734E-128-2D5D@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>


Todd wrote:

>Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
>distance electrically for a VFO.

I'm not Don but I have some thoughts:  It depends a lot on the output 
impedance of the VFO, I'd think.  If it is low-Z, say less than 100 
ohms, then I'd think you could run coax quite a long way.  The DDS VFO 
I built and use with my Gates BC-1T has a video op-amp as the output 
line driver so it is no problem to run a fair distance on regular 
coaxial cable.

See

http://www.wd8das.net/DDSVFO/ddsvfo.html

which shows both the VFO circuit and the interface to the Gates AM rig. 


If you have a VFO with a high-Z output, maybe the special 
low-capacitance coax used for broadcast antennas on cars would help.

Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
-----------------------------------------------------
Radio is your best entertainment value.
-----------------------------------------------------



From jc at pctechref.com  Sat Feb 14 21:37:50 2009
From: jc at pctechref.com (John Coleman)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:37:50 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
In-Reply-To: <8CB5D2688B9734E-128-2D5D@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
References: <mailman.81.1234630814.8293.amradio@mailman.qth.net><0D19E4FD515D417984C87373A2E19040@D65Y8B21><D23F64CA32C0446E9211A4137ECE0F36@userb59j2h1np1>
	<9ccb8c510902141738y454f5757ieb49a054ce27f71a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CB5D2688B9734E-128-2D5D@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <689F280218C08F4481B381DE76738FE401A070E58F1E@P1EC1EVS02.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>

If voltage is needed for the exciter a long coax line from the VFO can be tuned with a small network to provide the voltage needed at the grid of a distant buffer.

John, WA5BXO

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of sbjohnston at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:48 PM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Todd wrote:

>Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
>distance electrically for a VFO.

I'm not Don but I have some thoughts:  It depends a lot on the output
impedance of the VFO, I'd think.  If it is low-Z, say less than 100
ohms, then I'd think you could run coax quite a long way.  The DDS VFO
I built and use with my Gates BC-1T has a video op-amp as the output
line driver so it is no problem to run a fair distance on regular
coaxial cable.

See

http://www.wd8das.net/DDSVFO/ddsvfo.html

which shows both the VFO circuit and the interface to the Gates AM rig.


If you have a VFO with a high-Z output, maybe the special
low-capacitance coax used for broadcast antennas on cars would help.

Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
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From k4kyv at charter.net  Sat Feb 14 21:52:57 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:52:57 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
References: <mailman.6129.1234662354.30711.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <C817559084F04AD5B168104557305C2A@D65Y8B21>

> Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
> distance electrically for a VFO. Barry used to run a VFO on the 300G
> and included a short cable with it for that purpose. I know someone
> (maybe Paul, VJB?) actually removed the lower window in the door and
> stuck the same T-368 unit inside their 300G. I'm hoping to have it
> back on the air by fall and don't mind starting out crystal-controlled
> to get things sorted out, but will want the flexibility to move around
> for the exact reasons you mentioned. I'd like to have it on the bench
> next to the transmitter, but that could end up being 8-10 feet going
> through the transmitter's access holes.
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

If it is a high-Z output directly from the plate of the tube through a 
parallel tuned circuit, like the stock T-368 unit or commercial ham VFO's 
like the VF-1 or Johnson 122, I would say maybe 5-6 feet at most, because 
the capacitance of the coax running to the transmitter begins to swamp out 
the tuning capacitance in the VFO output circuit.

If it uses link coupling or other system of low-Z output, you can probably 
use a long a run as you need without any problems.

I modified my T-368 unit to link coupled output..  I salvaged a bandswitch 
wafer from a junker parts unit, disassembled the bandswitch in the good unit 
and added the new wafer.  I cut the metal sleeves and shortened one section 
by the thickness of the wafer, and reassembled the switch with the 
additional wafer.  I then removed each of the slug tuned output coils and 
added a few turns of wire at the cold end.  One end of the coupling coil was 
grounded and the other end went out through a new connection terminal.  I 
don't recall whether there was a spare terminal or if I had to fabricate an 
additional one.  The new bandswitch wafer is used to select the appropriate 
output coil link and take the output to a BNC connector I installed at the 
rear of the unit.  I  removed the stock BNC near the output tube and 
disconnected the wire lead going to it.  After the mod, I can get 200-250 mw 
of power into a 50-ohm  load.  I replaced the 6000 tube with a 6AG7, which 
required rewiring the octal socket.  I run only about 200 volts on the 6AG7 
and the rest of the tubes in the unit.

The unit wouldn't track perfectly across the entire range as it did before 
the mod, but it does track across each of the ham bands with negligible 
error.  Since I don't have any use for frequency coverage outside the 
amateur bands, that's no problem.  I might have a slight problem to work out 
if I ever try to cover both 40m and 30m using the 6-12 mHz range; I have 
never tried it to see  how much output I get on 30m.  I use RG-59 to couple 
the VFO to each of the transmitters.  The longest run goes to the Gates on 
160m, about 15 ft.

I get more than adequate drive for any of the rigs.

Don k4kyv

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From sbjohnston at aol.com  Sun Feb 15 02:18:14 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:18:14 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Terman books online?
Message-ID: <8CB5D54B380E759-128-3342@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>


I've worked out a way to store and read .pdf and other eBook formats on 
my iPod Touch (like an iPhone without the phone).
I'm now loading it with my ARRL Handbook pdfs and other references.

I'd like to include the Terman books...
"Radio Engineering" and "Fundamentals of Radio"

I've found his "Radio Engineers Handbook" available online, but so far 
the other two have eluded me.  Anyone know of the source for an 
electronic copy of either one?

Radio Antenna Engineering by Edmund A. Laport is available free online:

http://www.freebookzone.com/goto.php?bkcls=netw&bkidx=151&lkidx=1

Radio Engineer's Handbook by Frederick Terman is also available free 
online:

http://www.4shared.com/file/68394146/2c51481b/Radio_Engineers_Handbook_-_1943_-McGraw_Hill_-Terman.html

And the old Radio and ARRL Handbooks, as well as other good ones can be 
found at

http://www.pmillett.com/tecnical_books_online.htm


Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
-----------------------------------------------------
Radio is your best entertainment value.
-----------------------------------------------------

From rwpeters at swbell.net  Sun Feb 15 10:31:16 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:31:16 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter available
In-Reply-To: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
References: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <005901c98f82$71d450f0$557cf2d0$@net>

Gerald, Are you going to do the viewing window on
the inside grate??? I take it that you will not be
using the front door..I am not on my 1G but would
love to put a viewing window in but trying to
figure out how to do it and keep it
clean..Congratulations on your Gates... Mine came
out of operation at KOPY in Corpus Christi, TX
last year. They are now having more trouble with
their new solid state then they ever had with the
BC1G... They have had more down time on the Solid
State in one year then they had the whole time
since 1962 with the Gates  LOL... Ohhh the love of
transistors...

Bob W1PE

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of Gerald Stockinger
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:21 PM
To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter
avaiable

To all who responded, commented, offered help, and
laughed. On Wednesday 
afternoon I went to the station with two of my
men. There I met Mike 
Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer. We
spent about two hours 
removing all the heavy iron and loading it in my
covered  pickup. Some 
one had marked all the leads with Brady wire
markers so all we had to do 
is remove them. On Thursday we went back with a
fourth man and a trailer 
and loaded the cabinet and brought it home. This
rig has been properly 
maintained throughout its years of service and
will require little to 
get it on the air. The output configuration is
already a pi-L net with 
an adjustable 2nd harmonic filter connected
between the two sections to 
ground. Converting this to ham service will not be
a problem. A complete 
set of manuals was included. Since I have a new
T368 exciter I am even 
looking to use that and bandswitching the whole
thing to a least 160 to 
40. I have many projects to work on but this one
some how got to the top 
of the list. Since the tubes are mounted right
behind the front panel a  
viewing window will be installed and one more high
powered AM rig will 
"Glow in the Dark" Thanks to Charles N4FA, and
Mike N4RMS.
Jerry K9GOZ
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____________
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From k2ki at starc.org  Sun Feb 15 20:42:26 2009
From: k2ki at starc.org (Bob Bruno - K2KI)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:42:26 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Terman books online?
In-Reply-To: <8CB5D54B380E759-128-3342@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CB5D54B380E759-128-3342@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4998C482.5010402@starc.org>

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the links. I have been looking for info such as this. Now I 
have something to read!

Thanks again es 73...
Bob de k2ki

sbjohnston at aol.com wrote:
> I've worked out a way to store and read .pdf and other eBook formats on 
> my iPod Touch (like an iPhone without the phone).
> I'm now loading it with my ARRL Handbook pdfs and other references.
>
> I'd like to include the Terman books...
> "Radio Engineering" and "Fundamentals of Radio"
>
> I've found his "Radio Engineers Handbook" available online, but so far 
> the other two have eluded me.  Anyone know of the source for an 
> electronic copy of either one?
>
> Radio Antenna Engineering by Edmund A. Laport is available free online:
>
> http://www.freebookzone.com/goto.php?bkcls=netw&bkidx=151&lkidx=1
>
> Radio Engineer's Handbook by Frederick Terman is also available free 
> online:
>
> http://www.4shared.com/file/68394146/2c51481b/Radio_Engineers_Handbook_-_1943_-McGraw_Hill_-Terman.html
>
> And the old Radio and ARRL Handbooks, as well as other good ones can be 
> found at
>
> http://www.pmillett.com/tecnical_books_online.htm
>
>
> Steve WD8DAS
>
> sbjohnston at aol.com
> http://www.wd8das.net/
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 09:56:17 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:56:17 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue
In-Reply-To: <C817559084F04AD5B168104557305C2A@D65Y8B21>
References: <mailman.6129.1234662354.30711.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
	<C817559084F04AD5B168104557305C2A@D65Y8B21>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510902160656j2148b13x6786f8fc4db7cf1f@mail.gmail.com>

> If it is a high-Z output directly from the plate of the tube through a
> parallel tuned circuit, like the stock T-368 unit or commercial ham VFO's
> like the VF-1 or Johnson 122, I would say maybe 5-6 feet at most, because
> the capacitance of the coax running to the transmitter begins to swamp out
> the tuning capacitance in the VFO output circuit.
>
> If it uses link coupling or other system of low-Z output, you can probably
> use a long a run as you need without any problems.

Thanks Don & others -

The cable I got with the transmitter has an octal plug on one end to
plug directly into the crystal oscillator unit where the crystal oven
would plug in. It's maybe 4-5' long at most. Can't recall if Barry had
the unit sitting inside the front door or left the door slightly ajar
with it outside. The interlocks are all disconnected but I plan to
reconnect them once all the bugs and any operational issues are
settled. I'm not big on having doors open with HV floating around.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From k5xu at comcast.net  Mon Feb 16 21:11:02 2009
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:11:02 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Here's a kit you don't see every day
Message-ID: <94274736D8F8458AA43CAE1EB36A6819@K5XU>

This just came to me from the qrp-l list.

Check out the 40 meter AM HT on the web site below.

As for me, I have enough challenges running 25 watts.

Mike, K5XU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Harper" <john at ae5x.com>
To: <qrp-l at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:31 PM
Subject: [QRP-L] Here's a kit you don't see every day...


a 40m AM HT. Anyone built any of these kits? I've never heard of them but 
just saw the ad in QST:
http://www.dzkit.com/new_products.htm

John Harper
http://www.ae5x.com



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From ranickel at comcast.net  Mon Feb 16 22:13:38 2009
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:38 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Here's a kit you don't see every day
In-Reply-To: <94274736D8F8458AA43CAE1EB36A6819@K5XU>
References: <94274736D8F8458AA43CAE1EB36A6819@K5XU>
Message-ID: <499A2B62.1000606@comcast.net>

Mike Duke, K5XU wrote:
> This just came to me from the qrp-l list.
>
> Check out the 40 meter AM HT on the web site below.
>   
Well it's interesting, that's for sure, thanks Mike.

I'm curious as to how they detect AM with a direct conversion or zero-IF 
receiver.

73, Bob W9RAN

From cliogunsmith at centurytel.net  Tue Feb 17 14:04:03 2009
From: cliogunsmith at centurytel.net (Gerald Stockinger)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:04:03 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
In-Reply-To: <809563.32083.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
	<809563.32083.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <499B0A23.9050806@centurytel.net>

Thank you Bill I received it today.

Jerry K9GOZ



BILL GUYGER wrote:
> Jerry
>
> I put you "D" size schematic for the 1000D in the mail today. You ought to get it next week +/- Monday being a holiday.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
> To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:21:23 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
>
> To all who responded, commented, offered help, and laughed. On Wednesday 
> afternoon I went to the station with two of my men. There I met Mike 
> Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer. We spent about two hours 
> removing all the heavy iron and loading it in my covered  pickup. Some 
> one had marked all the leads with Brady wire markers so all we had to do 
> is remove them. On Thursday we went back with a fourth man and a trailer 
> and loaded the cabinet and brought it home. This rig has been properly 
> maintained throughout its years of service and will require little to 
> get it on the air. The output configuration is already a pi-L net with 
> an adjustable 2nd harmonic filter connected between the two sections to 
> ground. Converting this to ham service will not be a problem. A complete 
> set of manuals was included. Since I have a new T368 exciter I am even 
> looking to use that and bandswitching the whole thing to a least 160 to 
> 40. I have many projects to work on but this one some how got to the top 
> of the list. Since the tubes are mounted right behind the front panel a  
> viewing window will be installed and one more high powered AM rig will 
> "Glow in the Dark" Thanks to Charles N4FA, and Mike N4RMS.
> Jerry K9GOZ
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 17 14:45:57 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:45:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
References: <49970BA3.5040707@centurytel.net>
	<809563.32083.qm@web83408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<499B0A23.9050806@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <894657.73711.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Way cool. Good luck with the beastie!

Bill



----- Original Message ----
From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:04:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable

Thank you Bill I received it today.

Jerry K9GOZ



BILL GUYGER wrote:
> Jerry
>
> I put you "D" size schematic for the 1000D in the mail today. You ought to get it next week +/- Monday being a holiday.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
> To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:21:23 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] 1 KW Broadcast transmitter avaiable
>
> To all who responded, commented, offered help, and laughed. On Wednesday 
> afternoon I went to the station with two of my men. There I met Mike 
> Holderfield N4RMS who is the chief engineer. We spent about two hours 
> removing all the heavy iron and loading it in my covered? pickup. Some 
> one had marked all the leads with Brady wire markers so all we had to do 
> is remove them. On Thursday we went back with a fourth man and a trailer 
> and loaded the cabinet and brought it home. This rig has been properly 
> maintained throughout its years of service and will require little to 
> get it on the air. The output configuration is already a pi-L net with 
> an adjustable 2nd harmonic filter connected between the two sections to 
> ground. Converting this to ham service will not be a problem. A complete 
> set of manuals was included. Since I have a new T368 exciter I am even 
> looking to use that and bandswitching the whole thing to a least 160 to 
> 40. I have many projects to work on but this one some how got to the top 
> of the list. Since the tubes are mounted right behind the front panel a? 
> viewing window will be installed and one more high powered AM rig will 
> "Glow in the Dark" Thanks to Charles N4FA, and Mike N4RMS.
> Jerry K9GOZ
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From w0ng at comcast.net  Tue Feb 17 16:47:11 2009
From: w0ng at comcast.net (w0ng at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:47:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] Repro S-Meter Face for NC-303/300 - FREE DIY
In-Reply-To: <819595633.1193681234907148567.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <182790189.1194451234907231461.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>



Just an FYI...? The meter face of the S-meter on my National NC-303 had almost completely faded away due to many years of severe sun and cigarette smoke exposure by previous owners. In my efforts to restore this receiver, finding a good used S-meter or meter face came up short. 



I decided to see if I could produce a suitable reproduction meter face that I could live with. I have produced (and saved in a .pdf file so it can be printed out on any color printer) a meter face that is ?close? to the original design. Close enough I think, that only someone who is very familiar with the NC-303 would notice the difference. Also, I think the S-meter on the NC-300 is the same as the NC-303. The .pdf file will print out at the correct size ready to trim and paste over the original metal meter faceplate. 



I don't have a website to post it on but I can email the reproduction meter face .pdf file to anyone who would like to have it of course at no cost. I printed mine out with a color laser printer using matte finish photo paper. A good quality inkjet printer will also do fine. Trimmed it up to fit over the original metal meter faceplate, used rubber cement to attach it, put the clear plastic meter cover back on and now have, IMHO, a very nice looking S-meter once again. Let me know if you?d like to have an electronic copy of the meter face to play around with. 73, Bill, w0ng? 
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From cliogunsmith at centurytel.net  Tue Feb 17 17:29:52 2009
From: cliogunsmith at centurytel.net (Gerald Stockinger)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:29:52 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] diagram
Message-ID: <499B3A60.5010502@centurytel.net>

I am in need of the schematic of the T368 Exciter module. Does anyone 
know where I might purchase
same???  Jerry K9GOZ

From sbjohnston at aol.com  Tue Feb 17 19:59:54 2009
From: sbjohnston at aol.com (sbjohnston at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:59:54 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] diagram
In-Reply-To: <499B3A60.5010502@centurytel.net>
References: <499B3A60.5010502@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <8CB5F7B589F2C17-CE0-A40@FWM-D14.sysops.aol.com>


Looks like the T-368 manuals are available online at

http://srohrer.com/Radio/Manuals/Manuals.html



Steve WD8DAS

sbjohnston at aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Stockinger <cliogunsmith at centurytel.net>
To: AM Radio <AMRadio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 4:29 pm
Subject: [AMRadio] diagram










I am in need of the schematic of the T368 Exciter module. Does anyone
know where I might purchase
same???  Jerry K9GOZ
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From w0ng at comcast.net  Wed Feb 18 13:25:27 2009
From: w0ng at comcast.net (w0ng at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AMRadio] Repro Meter Face Software - FREE TRIAL VERSION
Message-ID: <1260436108.1569711234981527476.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>




Thanks to the many, many folks who requested the repro S-meter face I came up with for my NC-303 receiver. 

Hopefully my individual return emails this morning got to all of you OK. 

If not, let me know and I'll re-send it to you. 

I cannot take credit for the amazing software that I used to build it. 

The program has an S-meter template that I modified to suit my needs. 

If you want to try to make other meter faces, the FREE TRIAL version of the software can be found at: http://www.tonnesoftware.com/meter.html . 

It took me a while to work thru it to get what I want, but once you get the hang of it, it worked GREAT! 



73, Bill, w0ng 
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From nick at 3rdtech.com  Wed Feb 18 13:56:30 2009
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:56:30 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web
In-Reply-To: <1260436108.1569711234981527476.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1260436108.1569711234981527476.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9A8DCE18998C44B1A94C4DE202728FDE@Heathkit2>

Thanks to Bill W0NG - the file is now accessible via my NC-300 / NC-303 page
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/nc300.html
<BLOCKED::http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/nc300.html> 
 
The direct file URL is
<BLOCKED::http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/SMeter_nc303.pdf>
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/SMeter_nc303.pdf 
cheers,
Nick K4NYW

  _____  

From: national-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:national-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w0ng at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:25 PM
To: national at mailman.qth.net; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net;
amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [National] Repro Meter Face Software - FREE TRIAL VERSION




Thanks to the many, many folks who requested the repro S-meter face I came
up with for my NC-303 receiver.

Hopefully my individual return emails this morning got to all of you OK.

If not, let me know and I'll re-send it to you.

I cannot take credit for the amazing software that I used to build it.

The program has an S-meter template that I modified to suit my needs.

If you want to try to make other meter faces, the FREE TRIAL version of the
software can be found at:  <http://www.tonnesoftware.com/meter.html>
http://www.tonnesoftware.com/meter.html.

It took me a while to work thru it to get what I want, but once you get the
hang of it, it worked GREAT!

 

73, Bill, w0ng

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From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com  Wed Feb 18 13:58:01 2009
From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (LEE BAHR)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:58:01 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web
In-Reply-To: <9A8DCE18998C44B1A94C4DE202728FDE@Heathkit2>
References: <1260436108.1569711234981527476.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<9A8DCE18998C44B1A94C4DE202728FDE@Heathkit2>
Message-ID: <3679394B1C6D499C83EEA9457FC0844C@LeePC>

This doesn't work.

Lee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick England 
  To: 'National Radio Equipment' ; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net ; amradio at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web


  Thanks to Bill W0NG - the file is now accessible via my NC-300 / NC-303 page
  http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/nc300.html

  The direct file URL is http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/SMeter_nc303.pdf 
  cheers,
  Nick K4NYW


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  From: national-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:national-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w0ng at comcast.net
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:25 PM
  To: national at mailman.qth.net; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net; amradio at mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [National] Repro Meter Face Software - FREE TRIAL VERSION



  Thanks to the many, many folks who requested the repro S-meter face I came up with for my NC-303 receiver.

  Hopefully my individual return emails this morning got to all of you OK.

  If not, let me know and I'll re-send it to you.

  I cannot take credit for the amazing software that I used to build it.

  The program has an S-meter template that I modified to suit my needs.

  If you want to try to make other meter faces, the FREE TRIAL version of the software can be found at: http://www.tonnesoftware.com/meter.html.

  It took me a while to work thru it to get what I want, but once you get the hang of it, it worked GREAT!



  73, Bill, w0ng



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From pulsarxp at embarqmail.com  Wed Feb 18 14:03:26 2009
From: pulsarxp at embarqmail.com (LEE BAHR)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:03:26 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web
In-Reply-To: <3679394B1C6D499C83EEA9457FC0844C@LeePC>
References: <1260436108.1569711234981527476.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><9A8DCE18998C44B1A94C4DE202728FDE@Heathkit2>
	<3679394B1C6D499C83EEA9457FC0844C@LeePC>
Message-ID: <A98054BE1D9A4C3992C0228969BF66B3@LeePC>

Had to paste the URL to make it work.  I could not just click on it.

Lee 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: LEE BAHR 
  To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service ; 'National Radio Equipment' ; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web


  This doesn't work.

  Lee
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nick England 
    To: 'National Radio Equipment' ; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net ; amradio at mailman.qth.net 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:56 PM
    Subject: Re: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web


    Thanks to Bill W0NG - the file is now accessible via my NC-300 / NC-303 page
    http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/nc300.html

    The direct file URL is http://www.virhistory.com/ham/nc300/SMeter_nc303.pdf 
    cheers,
    Nick K4NYW


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    Thanks to the many, many folks who requested the repro S-meter face I came up with for my NC-303 receiver.

    Hopefully my individual return emails this morning got to all of you OK.

    If not, let me know and I'll re-send it to you.

    I cannot take credit for the amazing software that I used to build it.

    The program has an S-meter template that I modified to suit my needs.

    If you want to try to make other meter faces, the FREE TRIAL version of the software can be found at: http://www.tonnesoftware.com/meter.html.

    It took me a while to work thru it to get what I want, but once you get the hang of it, it worked GREAT!



    73, Bill, w0ng



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From Tonne at Comcast.net  Wed Feb 18 16:10:43 2009
From: Tonne at Comcast.net (Jim Tonne)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:10:43 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] [National] NC-303 Meter Face on the web
References: <1260436108.1569711234981527476.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><9A8DCE18998C44B1A94C4DE202728FDE@Heathkit2><3679394B1C6D499C83EEA9457FC0844C@LeePC>
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Message-ID: <B3C3CFECC0D04B9BA44A1DB8EDF398CF@jim1b39bd9eb1f>


Gents:

I thank Bill, W0NG, for pointing out "Meter", the
meterscale drawing program.

If any of you want to help the fraternity, feel free to send
me photos of the various logos you see on meters.  I can
then add them to Meter.  There are a couple already and
adding more seems like a pretty nice idea.

The better quality the artwork is, of course, the better will
be the final results.

- Jim Tonne   WB6BLD   author of Meter

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From tvictor at attglobal.net  Thu Feb 19 10:54:11 2009
From: tvictor at attglobal.net (tvictor at attglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:54:11 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Request for Help Locating an Old AM Xmtr Article
Message-ID: <380-220092419155411303@M2W004.mail2web.com>

Folks,

This is a long shot but here goes-
I am requesting help on finding the article for a homebrew 2m or 6m AM
transmitter I started in the 1960s. The article appeared in CQ or 73 or a
similar publication (but not in QST) before 1969.  When I was a teenage
ham, I finished the modulator portion on a separate chassis but went off to
college, then into the Army for 30 years and never did build the VHF
transmitter section. Now I'm retired and would like to finish the rest of
the project.

The modulator consists of a 6AN8A driving (through a Stancor A-53-C) a pair
of 6CZ5s that were to plate modulate a single 2E26 (or possible a 6146).
The article title was something like "The World's Best Transmitter" or
similar (I can?t remember exactly). I recall that the article boasted that
this transmitter was the best because of its outstanding audio. The on-line
CQ magazine index only goes back to 1980 and I don't know of a 73 index of
articles.

Yes, I know that there are many 2E26 and 6146 transmitter designs with
which I could hookup the modulator, but I'd really like to find the
original article and finish things off as intended.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated by this oldster.

73,
Tom 
WB2STR 


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From tvictor at attglobal.net  Thu Feb 19 11:00:00 2009
From: tvictor at attglobal.net (tvictor at attglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:00:00 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Request for Help Locating an Old AM Xmtr Article
Message-ID: <380-2200924191600287@M2W002.mail2web.com>

Folks,

This is a long shot but here goes-
I am requesting help on finding the article for a homebrew 2m or 6m AM
transmitter I started in the 1960s. The article appeared in CQ or 73 or a
similar publication (but not in QST) before 1969.  When I was a teenage
ham, I finished the modulator portion on a separate chassis but went off to
college, then into the Army for 30 years and never did build the VHF
transmitter section. Now I'm retired and would like to finish the rest of
the project.

The modulator consists of a 6AN8A driving (through a Stancor A-53-C) a pair
of 6CZ5s that were to plate modulate a single 2E26 (or possible a 6146).
The article title was something like "The World's Best Transmitter" or
similar (I can?t remember exactly). I recall that the article boasted that
this transmitter was the best because of its outstanding audio. The on-line
CQ magazine index only goes back to 1980 and I don't know of a 73 index of
articles.

Yes, I know that there are many 2E26 and 6146 transmitter designs with
which I could hookup the modulator, but I'd really like to find the
original article and finish things off as intended.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated by this oldster.

73,
Tom 
WB2STR 


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From manualman at juno.com  Thu Feb 19 13:17:44 2009
From: manualman at juno.com (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:17:44 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Request for Help Locating an Old AM Xmtr Article
Message-ID: <20090219.131744.2168.1.manualman@juno.com>

Not true. You can search the CQ Magazine archives from 2007 back to 1945.
Go here:
http://hamcall.net/cqcgi
Look for the box that has in it "Search full text of CQ Archives"

Pete, wa2cwa

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:54:11 -0500 "tvictor at attglobal.net"
<tvictor at attglobal.net> writes:
. The 
> on-line
> CQ magazine index only goes back to 1980 and I don't know of a 73 
> index of
> articles.
> 
>> 73,
> Tom 
> WB2STR 

From ars.w5ami at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 15:08:26 2009
From: ars.w5ami at gmail.com (WA5AM)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:08:26 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
Message-ID: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have a friend in Oregon that I'm trying to help via email, who is bringing
his A2 up slowly with a variac, after being stored for about 12+ years.
Anyone know what he should expect to see in regard to current draw on the AC
ammeter built on the Variac?  He is at 75 volts now with very little draw,
filaments on, and dial lights glowing.  I suspect the B+ rectifier (5Y3, I
think) should be conducting at this point too.  When he gets to a full 115
volts, what should he expect to see on the ammeter if all is well.

73
Brian / wa5am
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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 15:10:51 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:10:51 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CE034412308B4BA1916C44346B50CAB0@JMCLAPTOP>

Thanks, Brian...
 

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WA5AM
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption


Hi All,

I have a friend in Oregon that I'm trying to help via email, who is bringing
his A2 up slowly with a variac, after being stored for about 12+ years.
Anyone know what he should expect to see in regard to current draw on the AC
ammeter built on the Variac?  He is at 75 volts now with very little draw,
filaments on, and dial lights glowing.  I suspect the B+ rectifier (5Y3, I
think) should be conducting at this point too.  When he gets to a full 115
volts, what should he expect to see on the ammeter if all is well.

73
Brian / wa5am


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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 15:22:38 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:22:38 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8EC4A30AE9D04CA8A81B2E21A7BD6C7C@JMCLAPTOP>

Yep... that tube socket says 5y3gt...
I plugged in a small variac, 7.5amp... and the ammeter just barely budged on
the 2amp scale.... maybe it's not working...

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WA5AM
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption


Hi All,

I have a friend in Oregon that I'm trying to help via email, who is bringing
his A2 up slowly with a variac, after being stored for about 12+ years.
Anyone know what he should expect to see in regard to current draw on the AC
ammeter built on the Variac?  He is at 75 volts now with very little draw,
filaments on, and dial lights glowing.  I suspect the B+ rectifier (5Y3, I
think) should be conducting at this point too.  When he gets to a full 115
volts, what should he expect to see on the ammeter if all is well.

73
Brian / wa5am


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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 15:51:12 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:51:12 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com>

I thought it was closer to 90v to fire that tube, Brian - maybe I'm
mistaken. I'd run it up at least to there, if the tube is dead, it
won't conduct so it matter.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM, WA5AM <ars.w5ami at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a friend in Oregon that I'm trying to help via email, who is bringing
> his A2 up slowly with a variac, after being stored for about 12+ years.
> Anyone know what he should expect to see in regard to current draw on the AC
> ammeter built on the Variac?  He is at 75 volts now with very little draw,
> filaments on, and dial lights glowing.  I suspect the B+ rectifier (5Y3, I
> think) should be conducting at this point too.  When he gets to a full 115
> volts, what should he expect to see on the ammeter if all is well.
>
> 73
> Brian / wa5am
>
>
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From ne1s at neandertech.com  Thu Feb 19 15:55:07 2009
From: ne1s at neandertech.com (Larry Szendrei)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:55:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AMRadio] FW: [JMS] Reminder - Next Weekend is W1HRX and the AWA AM
	QSO Party
Message-ID: <1235076907.v2.mailanyonewebmail-243661@fuse113>


Don't forget about the AWA AM QSO party this weekend! CU there!

-Larry/NE1S






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From ars.w5ami at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 16:02:15 2009
From: ars.w5ami at gmail.com (WA5AM)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:02:15 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <344056040902191302r33f199a8yc8fb74c5b7939a27@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought it was closer to 90v to fire that tube, Brian - maybe I'm
> mistaken. I'd run it up at least to there, if the tube is dead, it
> won't conduct so it matter.
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
>

Could be Todd.  The one graph I found appeared to show it conducting at
about 62 volts, but I may have misinterpreted it.

Thanks man!

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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 16:11:42 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:11:42 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <344056040902191302r33f199a8yc8fb74c5b7939a27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com><9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com>
	<344056040902191302r33f199a8yc8fb74c5b7939a27@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9A5386AA40EB49E2B0D14A804F0EEB0C@JMCLAPTOP>

I'm wondering if I don't see any filament glow with that tube... I'm going
to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes... the
set for this receiver is 69 bucks.

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WA5AM
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:02 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption


On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:


I thought it was closer to 90v to fire that tube, Brian - maybe I'm
mistaken. I'd run it up at least to there, if the tube is dead, it
won't conduct so it matter.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4



Could be Todd.  The one graph I found appeared to show it conducting at
about 62 volts, but I may have misinterpreted it.

Thanks man!

Brian


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From ars.w5ami at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 16:18:01 2009
From: ars.w5ami at gmail.com (WA5AM)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:18:01 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <9A5386AA40EB49E2B0D14A804F0EEB0C@JMCLAPTOP>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com>
	<344056040902191302r33f199a8yc8fb74c5b7939a27@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <344056040902191318w2a001c98y6e12c467bbcae0dc@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, John Carrington, M.D. <
jmc05 at charterinternet.com> wrote:

>  I'm wondering if I don't see any filament glow with that tube... I'm
> going to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes...
> the set for this receiver is 69 bucks.
>

It's real hard to see the filaments in that tube John.  Wait until the room
is dark and take a look... they are pretty faint.

73
Brian
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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 16:20:09 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:20:09 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <344056040902191318w2a001c98y6e12c467bbcae0dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com><9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com><344056040902191302r33f199a8yc8fb74c5b7939a27@mail.gmail.com><9A5386AA40EB49E2B0D14A804F0EEB0C@JMCLAPTOP>
	<344056040902191318w2a001c98y6e12c467bbcae0dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7252740FDF5D4E2FB489DB6614390AF1@JMCLAPTOP>

I've got it on again... at about 75v...
How long would you leave it before you romp it up to 90-95?
 
J

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WA5AM
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:18 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption


On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, John Carrington, M.D.
<jmc05 at charterinternet.com> wrote:


I'm wondering if I don't see any filament glow with that tube... I'm going
to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes... the
set for this receiver is 69 bucks.


It's real hard to see the filaments in that tube John.  Wait until the room
is dark and take a look... they are pretty faint.

73
Brian


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From k7dfw at clatskanie.com  Thu Feb 19 16:24:22 2009
From: k7dfw at clatskanie.com (ROLYNN PRECHTL  K7DFW)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:24:22 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
References: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com><9ccb8c510902191251s2f121931o70c0db418a914ebd@mail.gmail.com><344056040902191302r33f199a8yc8fb74c5b7939a27@mail.gmail.com><9A5386AA40EB49E2B0D14A804F0EEB0C@JMCLAPTOP>
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Message-ID: <004d01c992d8$6fec05e0$dc29ff04@hppav>

This shows 85W +/-

http://www.collinsmuseum.com/75a2.html


K7DFW

..._._

From bill.fondren at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 19 17:38:47 2009
From: bill.fondren at sbcglobal.net (Bill Fondren)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:38:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
In-Reply-To: <344056040902191208o4f278624wf6ee1874a9395483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <603467.67564.qm@web82002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Brian??? The specs show the 75A2 drawing appx 85 watts??? Thats less than 1 amp at 115 volts.?? Bill?? K5PML

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, WA5AM <ars.w5ami at gmail.com> wrote:

From: WA5AM <ars.w5ami at gmail.com>
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:08 PM


Hi All,

I have a friend in Oregon that I'm trying to help via email, who is bringing his A2 up slowly with a variac, after being stored for about 12+ years.? Anyone know what he should expect to see in regard to current draw on the AC ammeter built on the Variac?? He is at 75 volts now with very little draw, filaments on, and dial lights glowing.? I suspect the B+ rectifier (5Y3, I think) should be conducting at this point too.? When he gets to a full 115 volts, what should he expect to see on the ammeter if all is well.

73
Brian / wa5am

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From w5jo at brightok.net  Thu Feb 19 18:25:10 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:25:10 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
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	<344056040902191318w2a001c98y6e12c467bbcae0dc@mail.gmail.com>
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It takes right at 90 volts for that rectifier to conduct.  When it starts conducting the caps will start forming.   If you are going to form the caps in this fashion, I would pull all other tubes and put the variac at 90 volts.  wait about 5 mins and raise it to 100 volts.  Put your finger on the cap to see if it is heating.  If so, back it down about 5 volts and wait for the cap to cool.  When it cools then start up with voltage again monitoring the temp of the cap.  If it gets hot, wait for it to cool.  That cap should, if it is good, form in about 20 minutes like this.  If it doesn't, get a new one.  If it does, check it in about a year because it probably will go bad by then.  

I wouldn't replace the tubes wholesale, you probably will throw away some of good tubes.  If you have a signal generator you can tell pretty well how good they are by the sensitivity of the radio.   If I remember right the fuse in that thing is 2 amp.  With the volume turned up loud it probably will pull near 1.5 amps through the fuse, so you variac meter should show about that amount.

Jim/W5JO
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, John Carrington, M.D. <jmc05 at charterinternet.com> wrote:

    I'm wondering if I don't see any filament glow with that tube... I'm going to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes... the set for this receiver is 69 bucks.

  It's real hard to see the filaments in that tube John.  Wait until the room is dark and take a look... they are pretty faint.
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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 18:36:54 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:36:54 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption
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Great info Jim... thanks so much.  I'll give it a try.
 
John 
WB5CW

  _____  

From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:25 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A-2 power consumption


It takes right at 90 volts for that rectifier to conduct.  When it starts
conducting the caps will start forming.   If you are going to form the caps
in this fashion, I would pull all other tubes and put the variac at 90
volts.  wait about 5 mins and raise it to 100 volts.  Put your finger on the
cap to see if it is heating.  If so, back it down about 5 volts and wait for
the cap to cool.  When it cools then start up with voltage again monitoring
the temp of the cap.  If it gets hot, wait for it to cool.  That cap should,
if it is good, form in about 20 minutes like this.  If it doesn't, get a new
one.  If it does, check it in about a year because it probably will go bad
by then.  
 
I wouldn't replace the tubes wholesale, you probably will throw away some of
good tubes.  If you have a signal generator you can tell pretty well how
good they are by the sensitivity of the radio.   If I remember right the
fuse in that thing is 2 amp.  With the volume turned up loud it probably
will pull near 1.5 amps through the fuse, so you variac meter should show
about that amount.
 
Jim/W5JO

----- Original Message ----- 


On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, John Carrington, M.D.
<jmc05 at charterinternet.com> wrote:


I'm wondering if I don't see any filament glow with that tube... I'm going
to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes... the
set for this receiver is 69 bucks.


It's real hard to see the filaments in that tube John.  Wait until the room
is dark and take a look... they are pretty faint.


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From johnmb at nc.rr.com  Thu Feb 19 20:32:20 2009
From: johnmb at nc.rr.com (John)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:32:20 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090219203017.0216b4c0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

"I'm going
to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes"

Kind of overkill  before any additional problem solving is done.  Might be 
interesting to at least see if there's AC on the secondary of the power 
tranny.  Then skip to see if there's DC on the output of the filter caps.

10min with a VOM will give you a lot of data.

John K5MO



From bob_mcclly at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 19 21:22:45 2009
From: bob_mcclly at yahoo.com (bob mccully)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:22:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090219203017.0216b4c0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <888046.15859.qm@web53002.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




John, Do you have a tube tester? I'd try testing them before replacing them all.Bob  AB8OP


      

From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 23:22:20 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:22:20 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090219203017.0216b4c0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.2.20090219203017.0216b4c0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <99065266FCF3445FAF82FBC1DE5989DB@JMCLAPTOP>

Thanks for that, John...
I'll quench the impulsive urges and think about it awhile...hihi

John
WB5CW 

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:32 PM
To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2

"I'm going
to be tempted to  bite on the Ebay ads that just replace all tubes"

Kind of overkill  before any additional problem solving is done.  Might be
interesting to at least see if there's AC on the secondary of the power
tranny.  Then skip to see if there's DC on the output of the filter caps.

10min with a VOM will give you a lot of data.

John K5MO


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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Thu Feb 19 23:24:11 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:24:11 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <888046.15859.qm@web53002.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I don't, Bob, but I'm not going to rush into buying the replacements until I
can get them tested.. 
Good advice and thanks! 

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bob mccully
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:23 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2




John, Do you have a tube tester? I'd try testing them before replacing them
all.Bob  AB8OP


      
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From wa3vjb at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 20 05:29:41 2009
From: wa3vjb at yahoo.com (VJB)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:29:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] McMartin BC tx in NJ
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7093.1235077913.30711.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <713530.71801.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Anyone interested in rescuing a retired broadcast transmitter?

I am forwarding interest to someone who has told me about a NJ radio station clearing it out.  Sounds free.

Probably a quad of 4-400s or possibly the original 4-500s.

No other details, no pictures.

REPLY OFF LIST 
202 841 3208


      

From k9ux at mchsi.com  Fri Feb 20 08:52:42 2009
From: k9ux at mchsi.com (Dave)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:52:42 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] McMartin BC tx in NJ
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Wish it were closer to Illinois. I have located a Gates, but the engineer is 
reluctant to let
me on the property, and I am assuming, because of liability!!

Dave K9UX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VJB" <wa3vjb at yahoo.com>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:29 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] McMartin BC tx in NJ


> Anyone interested in rescuing a retired broadcast transmitter?
>
> I am forwarding interest to someone who has told me about a NJ radio 
> station clearing it out.  Sounds free.
>
> Probably a quad of 4-400s or possibly the original 4-500s.
>
> No other details, no pictures.
>
> REPLY OFF LIST
> 202 841 3208
>
>
>
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 09:17:31 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:17:31 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
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It's certainly not a bad idea to have replacements if you do end up
needing them (you will, someday), just not advisable to swap them
wholesale as others have said. The radio itself is still the best tube
tester IMO, once you get it running it's easier to compare results
through performance. Tube testers are fine for a quick look and for
showing some obvious faults, but I've had two instances in the last 2
years where tubes tested great and showed no problems, but didn't work
properly in the set. I've also had receivers that worked great despite
having some tubes that tested low on the scale.

~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Carrington, M.D.
<jmc05 at charterinternet.com> wrote:
> I don't, Bob, but I'm not going to rush into buying the replacements until I
> can get them tested..
> Good advice and thanks!

From bob_mcclly at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 20 10:56:26 2009
From: bob_mcclly at yahoo.com (bob mccully)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:56:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902200617o6bf460ecqa85c5a71a0297b97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <264535.56259.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




John, Todd is quite right.  The only thing for sure with a new tube is that it is new.  I've had several radios that worked quite well with tubes that tested poor to bad. Some receivers will perform well with a fair tube and others won't with the same tube, If it works, leave it alone.  Good luck, Bob  AB8OP


      

From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Fri Feb 20 11:10:53 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:10:53 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902200617o6bf460ecqa85c5a71a0297b97@mail.gmail.com>
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Good point... Man, I surely appreciate all the help on this site... You guys
are great!
I'm just a beginner with the older stuff and have always been so envious of
my older brother, WA5ZTE and my Dad W5SNY (silent)...
They started in the old days and built and repaired their radios...
I wasn't a ham until the 90's...
And so I'm wanting to go back and learn from the good stuff... 

John
WB5CW 

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Todd, KA1KAQ
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:18 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2

It's certainly not a bad idea to have replacements if you do end up needing
them (you will, someday), just not advisable to swap them wholesale as
others have said. The radio itself is still the best tube tester IMO, once
you get it running it's easier to compare results through performance. Tube
testers are fine for a quick look and for showing some obvious faults, but
I've had two instances in the last 2 years where tubes tested great and
showed no problems, but didn't work properly in the set. I've also had
receivers that worked great despite having some tubes that tested low on the
scale.

~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Carrington, M.D.
<jmc05 at charterinternet.com> wrote:
> I don't, Bob, but I'm not going to rush into buying the replacements 
> until I can get them tested..
> Good advice and thanks!
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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Fri Feb 20 11:11:50 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:11:50 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
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I can see a tube tester in my future... Any recommendations?
Thanks Bob,  John WB5CW 

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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:56 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2




John, Todd is quite right.  The only thing for sure with a new tube is that
it is new.  I've had several radios that worked quite well with tubes that
tested poor to bad. Some receivers will perform well with a fair tube and
others won't with the same tube, If it works, leave it alone.  Good luck,
Bob  AB8OP


      
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From k6kwq at msn.com  Fri Feb 20 11:17:10 2009
From: k6kwq at msn.com (RICHARD GEORGE)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:17:10 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
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I can remember in my days as a black and white TV repairman, going on a 
service call and having to replace a tube or 2. The customer would scream 
that he had just tested all the tubes at the Thrifty Drug store and they 
were all good!


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To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2


>
>
>
> John, Todd is quite right.  The only thing for sure with a new tube is 
> that it is new.  I've had several radios that worked quite well with tubes 
> that tested poor to bad. Some receivers will perform well with a fair tube 
> and others won't with the same tube, If it works, leave it alone.  Good 
> luck, Bob  AB8OP
>
>
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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Fri Feb 20 11:47:25 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:47:25 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DS1DDE12223DD5420D65881F5B30@phx.gbl>
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I remember as a child how happy I was when the tv repairman fixed our tv.
I have an old Westinghouse tv from the 40's that was given to me... People
tell me that it probably just needs a couple of tubes replaced... But I
don't think I can call a repairman like the old days...hihi 

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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:17 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2

I can remember in my days as a black and white TV repairman, going on a
service call and having to replace a tube or 2. The customer would scream
that he had just tested all the tubes at the Thrifty Drug store and they
were all good!


----- Original Message -----
From: "bob mccully" <bob_mcclly at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2


>
>
>
> John, Todd is quite right.  The only thing for sure with a new tube is 
> that it is new.  I've had several radios that worked quite well with tubes

> that tested poor to bad. Some receivers will perform well with a fair tube

> and others won't with the same tube, If it works, leave it alone.  Good 
> luck, Bob  AB8OP
>
>
>
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From georgeb at i2k.net  Fri Feb 20 12:12:14 2009
From: georgeb at i2k.net (George Brand)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:12:14 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DS1DDE12223DD5420D65881F5B30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DJEILGKNKICMDIHMEPHDKEPOCNAA.georgeb@i2k.net>

ah yes, the drugstore tester, designed to sell tubes to rubes :-)

George  wa8sco



>I can remember in my days as a black and white TV repairman, going on a 
>service call and having to replace a tube or 2. The customer would scream 
>that he had just tested all the tubes at the Thrifty Drug store and they 
>were all good!



From w5jo at brightok.net  Fri Feb 20 12:27:58 2009
From: w5jo at brightok.net (Jim Wilhite)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:27:58 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <DB91127C220745F482BAEFCB78F91404@JMCLAPTOP>
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In experience I have had with tubes checking good but not working in 
a radio had a lot to do with the design of the circuit they are in. 
If the circuit doesn't take into account things like plate to grid 
capacitance and such properly, they can be a problem for high gain 
tubes.  There is a lot of discussion about this if you want to read 
it.  I had an FM tuner that used a 6BE6 mixer that would not work 
with tubes that were in the normal range on my tester.  If I put one 
with low transconductance in the circuit, it worked fine.  Some 
tubes would even cause an oscillation if they had high enough gain. 
I did a little circuit redesign and solved the problem of high gain 
tubes.  I don't think you will experience anything like that with a 
75A2 so if you  find a bad tube with a tester, chances are it will 
be bad in the radio.

One of the things about using a tube tester is you can find shorted 
tubes before you put them in your radio.  If they are shorted screen 
to G1 you can cause damage to some radios.  A tester will find this 
type of problem before you put the tube in the socket.

I use a Western Electric KS-15650 L2 tester.  It is a Hickok and is 
a transconductance tester.  Don't get one that measures emission, 
look for one that tests transconductance.  There are several that 
will, made by Hickok, B&K and the venerable I-177 made for the 
military by Hickok and others.  One of the things about tube testers 
is if you get a late model it may not have the test setting for the 
old tubes.  If you get an early model it may not have the sockets 
and test setting for some of the newer tubes.  So I suggest you find 
an emission tester of later manufacture that has the obsolete tube 
data available.

Are tube testers the end all of repairs?  No but used correctly and 
knowing their limitations, they are a useful tool.

Jim/W5JO

----- Original Message ----- 

>I can see a tube tester in my future... Any recommendations?
> Thanks Bob,  John WB5CW
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
>
> John, Todd is quite right.  The only thing for sure with a new 
> tube is that
> it is new.  I've had several radios that worked quite well with 
> tubes that
> tested poor to bad. Some receivers will perform well with a fair 
> tube and
> others won't with the same tube, If it works, leave it alone. 
> Good luck,



From AirRadio at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Feb 20 12:46:21 2009
From: AirRadio at dsl.pipex.com (AirRadio)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:46:21 -0000
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
References: <9ccb8c510902200617o6bf460ecqa85c5a71a0297b97@mail.gmail.com><264535.56259.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com><DB91127C220745F482BAEFCB78F91404@JMCLAPTOP>
	<D03AE4CC6BBA494F813183AC8DF0A0B8@JimPC>
Message-ID: <6FC369F753E24C938441C530C73D5578@GUINNESS>


Reading this makes me think of my own experiences, I have an 837 tube for my 
ART-13, the tube is brand new, I fitted it into the transmitter when the 
filament failed on the previous one, it did not work, I tested it on the 
tube tester, 100% within all perameters, checked it back in the rig, no go, 
I tested the rig thinking there was more to the filament breaing than met 
the eye, all present and correct, found another 837 and fitted it, perfect, 
no reason why, just goes to show tube checkers only give a certain idea of 
tube characteristics, not necessarily letting you know if they do the job or 
not.
73 Max M0GHQ 


From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Fri Feb 20 13:36:16 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:36:16 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 75A2
In-Reply-To: <D03AE4CC6BBA494F813183AC8DF0A0B8@JimPC>
References: <9ccb8c510902200617o6bf460ecqa85c5a71a0297b97@mail.gmail.com><264535.56259.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com><DB91127C220745F482BAEFCB78F91404@JMCLAPTOP>
	<D03AE4CC6BBA494F813183AC8DF0A0B8@JimPC>
Message-ID: <5347BA3AEAFD405D8CA520EE5BA41CB0@JMCLAPTOP>

Excellent, Jim...
Thanks so much!

John
WB5CW 

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 75A2

In experience I have had with tubes checking good but not working in a radio
had a lot to do with the design of the circuit they are in. 
If the circuit doesn't take into account things like plate to grid
capacitance and such properly, they can be a problem for high gain tubes.
There is a lot of discussion about this if you want to read it.  I had an FM
tuner that used a 6BE6 mixer that would not work with tubes that were in the
normal range on my tester.  If I put one with low transconductance in the
circuit, it worked fine.  Some tubes would even cause an oscillation if they
had high enough gain. 
I did a little circuit redesign and solved the problem of high gain tubes.
I don't think you will experience anything like that with a
75A2 so if you  find a bad tube with a tester, chances are it will be bad in
the radio.

One of the things about using a tube tester is you can find shorted tubes
before you put them in your radio.  If they are shorted screen to G1 you can
cause damage to some radios.  A tester will find this type of problem before
you put the tube in the socket.

I use a Western Electric KS-15650 L2 tester.  It is a Hickok and is a
transconductance tester.  Don't get one that measures emission, look for one
that tests transconductance.  There are several that will, made by Hickok,
B&K and the venerable I-177 made for the military by Hickok and others.  One
of the things about tube testers is if you get a late model it may not have
the test setting for the old tubes.  If you get an early model it may not
have the sockets and test setting for some of the newer tubes.  So I suggest
you find an emission tester of later manufacture that has the obsolete tube
data available.

Are tube testers the end all of repairs?  No but used correctly and knowing
their limitations, they are a useful tool.

Jim/W5JO

----- Original Message ----- 

>I can see a tube tester in my future... Any recommendations?
> Thanks Bob,  John WB5CW
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
>
> John, Todd is quite right.  The only thing for sure with a new tube is 
> that it is new.  I've had several radios that worked quite well with 
> tubes that tested poor to bad. Some receivers will perform well with a 
> fair tube and others won't with the same tube, If it works, leave it 
> alone.
> Good luck,


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From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Sat Feb 21 17:03:38 2009
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:03:38 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 6AK6
Message-ID: <0KFF00LW8RXU35DW@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net>

Wish to purchase NOS 6AK6...Please!
 
Phil
 

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From crawfish at surfmore.net  Sat Feb 21 17:21:18 2009
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (Joe Crawford)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:21:18 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] 6AK6
References: <0KFF00LW8RXU35DW@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <1B4E73A4D0FC4B7BA1F91C0C6E1FBD7A@homevs5lb1pw9n>

I got one I can send you, Phil. I couldn't post to your e-mail account.
                                                                                    Joe W4AAB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil LaMarche 
  To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' 
  Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:03 PM
  Subject: [AMRadio] 6AK6


  Wish to purchase NOS 6AK6...Please!

  Phil

  Philip LaMarche 
  LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
  www.instantgourmetspices.com

  www.w9dvm.com 
  800-395-7795 pin 02 
  727-944-3226 
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From k4kyv at charter.net  Sat Feb 21 17:22:49 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:22:49 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio]  75A-2 power consumption
References: <mailman.7093.1235077913.30711.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <2AB7DE1EB6834E538982B93AD66056BC@D65Y8B21>

Don't sweat or nitpick the power consumption.  Bring it up slowly with the 
variac if you have one, and if it doesn't blow a fuse or show abnormally 
high current drain as you go, bring it on up to the full line voltage.  If 
it still hasn't blown a fuse, listen for hum, in case the electrolytics have 
fizzled.  If all is OK so far, check to see if the VR tubes are ignited.  If 
so, everything is probably go.  If not, measure voltages and see why the 
power supply output voltage is below normal.  The normal power consumption 
of a receiver like that should be somewhere between 75 and 100 watts.  That 
means about 1 amp of line current.

If you don't have a variac, just make sure the proper line fuse is in place 
and hope it doesn't blow when you apply power.  A bank of  3-5 100w light 
bulbs in parallel could be inserted in series with the line cord as a 
current limiting resistor the first time it is fired up.  If it pulls a 
little too much current the first time it is turned on, once the 
electrolytics have re-formed, the power drain should decrease down to 
normal. The main thing to worry about is that something might be shorted and 
damage the rectifier tube, power transformer or both the first time it is 
powered up if no precautions are taken.  But that's what the manufacturer 
put a line fuse in the circuit for. Once it passes the smoke test, be gentle 
with it until it accepts full line voltage without abnormalities.

Don k4kyv

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From k6kwq at msn.com  Sat Feb 21 19:00:41 2009
From: k6kwq at msn.com (RICHARD GEORGE)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:00:41 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] 8 pin jumbo socket
Message-ID: <BAY103-DS1B30B65CFE71E627C6475F5B10@phx.gbl>

I'm looking for an 8 pin female socket. I'm going to call it a Jumbo. It is 
8 pin without a center key and pin number one is larger then the remainder. 
I need this socket for the rear of my Gonset 66 reciever so I can apply 
power. Any out there?

Amps by "MORE POWER" K6KWQ
Dick 


From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Sat Feb 21 19:49:15 2009
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:49:15 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] 6AK6
In-Reply-To: <1B4E73A4D0FC4B7BA1F91C0C6E1FBD7A@homevs5lb1pw9n>
Message-ID: <0KFF00973ZLU4DIZ@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net>

Thank you and let me know the price and address to send cash to you,  I'm
good in QRZ.
 
Phil
 

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From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Crawford
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:21 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 6AK6


I got one I can send you, Phil. I couldn't post to your e-mail account.
 
Joe W4AAB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Phil  <mailto:plamarc1 at verizon.net> LaMarche 
To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur  <mailto:amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Service' 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] 6AK6

Wish to purchase NOS 6AK6...Please!
 
Phil
 

Philip LaMarche 
LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
 <http://www.instantgourmetspices.com> www.instantgourmetspices.com

www.w9dvm.com 
800-395-7795 pin 02 
727-944-3226 
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From pruett at centurytel.net  Sun Feb 22 11:11:03 2009
From: pruett at centurytel.net (Paul Pruett)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:11:03 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger
Message-ID: <099C82F7D1EE4F098FB443F8FB066D05@paulm3nz8duev9>

I am looking for a schematic for the very early Viking Ranger, this is one of the first versions without the bias rectifier and keyer board. It must have been a kit because the person that built it needed a few more months of solder practice.  When I'm finished with the rebuilding, I plan to use it to drive push-pull 8005s modulated by a pair of 811s. 

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From w4bws at comcast.net  Sun Feb 22 11:29:12 2009
From: w4bws at comcast.net (rev. don)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:29:12 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger
In-Reply-To: <099C82F7D1EE4F098FB443F8FB066D05@paulm3nz8duev9>
References: <099C82F7D1EE4F098FB443F8FB066D05@paulm3nz8duev9>
Message-ID: <D332AC5937CF4BE891FBEBECCEDC40DD@homepc>

Paul, do you need another Ranger 1 for parts or rebuild? I have one that 
was started by previous owner and I can't complete it due to health 
problems. It was a kit and I have the original assembly and schematic 
plus articles on restoring and upgrading the Ranger 1.
I'm asking $100 plus shipping .
Don W4BWS
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Pruett 
  To: AMRadio at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:11 AM
  Subject: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger


  I am looking for a schematic for the very early Viking Ranger, this is one of the first versions without the bias rectifier and keyer board. It must have been a kit because the person that built it needed a few more months of solder practice.  When I'm finished with the rebuilding, I plan to use it to drive push-pull 8005s modulated by a pair of 811s. 

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From joefran at live.com  Sun Feb 22 15:00:44 2009
From: joefran at live.com (j f)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:00:44 +0100
Subject: [AMRadio] SINGLE 833A TUBE AM TRANSMITTER
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Hi

      I like to build an AM transmitter with asingle 833a tube...is there any one have any circuit...

many thanks
Joe

9H1GT

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From zehelmer at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 22 18:47:20 2009
From: zehelmer at yahoo.com (Jose HF Silva)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:47:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] SINGLE 833A TUBE AM TRANSMITTER
Message-ID: <999454.27373.qm@web65513.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

See here:
?
http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio at mailman.qth.net/msg22638.html
?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread/t-24424.html
?
GL
?
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From: j f <joefran at live.com>
Subject: [AMRadio] SINGLE 833A TUBE AM TRANSMITTER
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????? I like to build an AM transmitter with asingle 833a tube...is there any one have any circuit...

many thanks
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From wb5afy at wb5afy.net  Sun Feb 22 19:28:30 2009
From: wb5afy at wb5afy.net (Dan Osborne)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:28:30 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger
In-Reply-To: <D332AC5937CF4BE891FBEBECCEDC40DD@homepc>
References: <099C82F7D1EE4F098FB443F8FB066D05@paulm3nz8duev9>
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Message-ID: <0MKp8S-1LbOgR3Xw6-000NQ8@mrelay.perfora.net>

Hi Don - I will take your Ranger if its still available - shoot me 
the total plus shipping to 76384...

Dan O
WB5AFY


At 10:29 AM 2/22/2009, you wrote:
>Paul, do you need another Ranger 1 for parts or rebuild? I have one that
>was started by previous owner and I can't complete it due to health
>problems. It was a kit and I have the original assembly and schematic
>plus articles on restoring and upgrading the Ranger 1.
>I'm asking $100 plus shipping .
>Don W4BWS
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:pruett at centurytel.net>Paul Pruett
>To: <mailto:AMRadio at mailman.qth.net>AMRadio at mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:11 AM
>Subject: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger
>
>I am looking for a schematic for the very early Viking Ranger, this 
>is one of the first versions without the bias rectifier and keyer 
>board. It must have been a kit because the person that built it 
>needed a few more months of solder practice.  When I'm finished with 
>the rebuilding, I plan to use it to drive push-pull 8005s modulated 
>by a pair of 811s.
>
>Paul Pruett, AB5F
>
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From kc0hfl at cox.net  Mon Feb 23 13:51:16 2009
From: kc0hfl at cox.net (Robert Perdue)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:51:16 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
Message-ID: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>

Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the shack I have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going broke.

73,Bob kc0hfl 

From macklinbob at msn.com  Mon Feb 23 13:59:34 2009
From: macklinbob at msn.com (Bob Macklin)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:59:34 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV23F901A1D4933E5A629CE2C5AE0@phx.gbl>

Define "without going broke".

Any Hallicrafters is stable enough for AM. So are the low end National
receivers.

Do you want a ham band only or a General Coverage receiver?

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Kent (Seattle), Wa,
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Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started


> Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the shack I
have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore can
anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going broke.
>
> 73,Bob kc0hfl
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Mon Feb 23 14:08:02 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:08:02 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
References: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
Message-ID: <007201c995ea$0cfc3170$26f49450$@net>

This by any strange chance Dr Perdue is it 

-----Original Message-----
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Of Robert Perdue
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:51 PM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started

Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM
station here in the shack I have a Viking Ranger
for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore
can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good
receiver without going broke.

73,Bob kc0hfl 
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From pbaldock at verizon.net  Mon Feb 23 14:09:30 2009
From: pbaldock at verizon.net (Paul Baldock)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:09:30 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
References: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
Message-ID: <0KFJ005Z69C2FPHX@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net>

I would suggest a  Hammarlund  such as HQ145 for around $100 or maybe 
a little more.

- Paul


At 10:51 AM 2/23/2009, you wrote:
>Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the 
>shack I have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has 
>been a chore can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good 
>receiver without going broke.
>
>73,Bob kc0hfl
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From AirRadio at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Feb 23 16:33:27 2009
From: AirRadio at dsl.pipex.com (AirRadio)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:33:27 -0000
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
Message-ID: <218C980F7D7F417D8312DF27BD88F70D@GUINNESS>

Robert,
 A good old BC-348 makes an excellent AM radio plenty around at reasonable 
prices, failing that a Hallicrafters HF receiver works very well too,
73 Max M0GHQ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:51 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started


> Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the shack I 
> have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore 
> can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going 
> broke.
>
> 73,Bob kc0hfl
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From kc0hfl at cox.net  Mon Feb 23 18:01:13 2009
From: kc0hfl at cox.net (kc0hfl at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:01:13 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <COL0-DAV23F901A1D4933E5A629CE2C5AE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>


  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350 dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to check it out soon.

73,Bob
---- Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com> wrote: 
> Define "without going broke".
> 
> Any Hallicrafters is stable enough for AM. So are the low end National
> receivers.
> 
> Do you want a ham band only or a General Coverage receiver?
> 
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Kent (Seattle), Wa,
> "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:51 AM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
> 
> 
> > Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the shack I
> have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore can
> anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going broke.
> >
> > 73,Bob kc0hfl
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From kc0hfl at cox.net  Mon Feb 23 18:01:52 2009
From: kc0hfl at cox.net (kc0hfl at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:01:52 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <007201c995ea$0cfc3170$26f49450$@net>
Message-ID: <20090223180152.QLT50.72516.imail@eastrmwml33>

 Nope not a Doctor
---- Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net> wrote: 
> This by any strange chance Dr Perdue is it 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of Robert Perdue
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:51 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
> 
> Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM
> station here in the shack I have a Viking Ranger
> for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore
> can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good
> receiver without going broke.
> 
> 73,Bob kc0hfl 
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From kc0hfl at cox.net  Mon Feb 23 18:02:02 2009
From: kc0hfl at cox.net (kc0hfl at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:02:02 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <007201c995ea$0cfc3170$26f49450$@net>
Message-ID: <20090223180202.47UVP.72522.imail@eastrmwml33>

 Nope not a Doctor
---- Bob Peters <rwpeters at swbell.net> wrote: 
> This by any strange chance Dr Perdue is it 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of Robert Perdue
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:51 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
> 
> Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM
> station here in the shack I have a Viking Ranger
> for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore
> can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good
> receiver without going broke.
> 
> 73,Bob kc0hfl 
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From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Mon Feb 23 19:20:03 2009
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:20:03 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
Message-ID: <005a01c99615$a3461ad0$0202a8c0@bernie>

I have been using a Drake R4, it could be a little wider(4.8KC), but for 
$200 it is a great little rx. Bernie W8RPW.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


>
>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350 
> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a 
> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ 
> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to 
> check it out soon.
>
> 73,Bob
> ---- Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com> wrote:
>> Define "without going broke".
>>
>> Any Hallicrafters is stable enough for AM. So are the low end National
>> receivers.
>>
>> Do you want a ham band only or a General Coverage receiver?
>>
>> Bob Macklin
>> K5MYJ
>> Kent (Seattle), Wa,
>> "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:51 AM
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
>>
>>
>> > Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the shack 
>> > I
>> have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore 
>> can
>> anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going 
>> broke.
>> >
>> > 73,Bob kc0hfl
>> > ______________________________________________________________
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From crawfish at surfmore.net  Mon Feb 23 19:39:01 2009
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (Joe Crawford)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:39:01 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
	<005a01c99615$a3461ad0$0202a8c0@bernie>
Message-ID: <DFE78AF503654B3D8969C5147AC85020@homevs5lb1pw9n>

Drake 2-A is another great AM receiver. It has bandwidth of 2.4 and 4.8 kHz. 
The 2-B only goes up to 3.6 kHz. Of course, my R-390-A goes up to 6 kHz.
                                                                        Joe 
W4AAB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


>I have been using a Drake R4, it could be a little wider(4.8KC), but for
> $200 it is a great little rx. Bernie W8RPW.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
>
>
>>
>>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350
>> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a
>> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ
>> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to
>> check it out soon.
>>
>> 73,Bob
>> ---- Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com> wrote:
>>> Define "without going broke".
>>>
>>> Any Hallicrafters is stable enough for AM. So are the low end National
>>> receivers.
>>>
>>> Do you want a ham band only or a General Coverage receiver?
>>>
>>> Bob Macklin
>>> K5MYJ
>>> Kent (Seattle), Wa,
>>> "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
>>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:51 AM
>>> Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the 
>>> > shack
>>> > I
>>> have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore
>>> can
>>> anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going
>>> broke.
>>> >
>>> > 73,Bob kc0hfl
>>> > ______________________________________________________________
>>> > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
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From wa1zuf at juno.com  Mon Feb 23 19:39:29 2009
From: wa1zuf at juno.com (Steve Belcher)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:39:29 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
References: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
Message-ID: <B6060DB1E7AF4502A99C00569B1009A7@StevePC>

Don't overlook a vintage Solid State receivers - Radio Shack DX-303, DX-200 
the Yaesu FR-7 series and some of the early (70's vintage) Kenwoods all come 
to mind..

I have in extensive collection of tube receivers on line in the shack, 
however for a quick check to hear who's on or what the band conditions are, 
A SS receiver is a fine thing to have on hand.  As I have already stated, 
these too are becoming "vintage" radios. But most are still very reasonably 
priced.

Steve - W1TAV
Or as my dad used to say when he had the call "Whisky One Tall Alcoholic 
Victim"



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:51 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started


> Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the shack I 
> have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore 
> can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going 
> broke.
>
> 73,Bob kc0hfl
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From k5xu at comcast.net  Mon Feb 23 19:52:42 2009
From: k5xu at comcast.net (Mike Duke, K5XU)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:52:42 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Good Receivers for AM
Message-ID: <BB3A15CA2A3C4DAF8E13314823D9BDC2@K5XU>

In 1981, I traded a piece of equipment to a friend for a Radio Shack 
Realistic DX160.

It was your basic slide rule dile general coverage receiver that reminded me 
of the old S120 that I began listening with in the mid 60s.

I got it primarily as a DX receiver for the AM broadcast band, but it soon 
found the 1885 and 1985 gatherings on 160, along with W5PYT, K5SWK, K4KYV, 
et al on 75 meters.

That receiver stayed with me for several years until someone made me an 
offer I couldn't refuse at the time.

They aren't fancy, and they don't have selectivity enhancements, but they do 
okay for a single conversion unit.




Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



From nick at 3rdtech.com  Mon Feb 23 19:55:25 2009
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:55:25 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
Message-ID: <042256F413FC49E8AA5B4736191A224B@cs.unc.edu>

How about a National NC-300 or 303? - great vintage looks, excellent tuning 
feel, very good performance on AM, CW, and SSB.
Or a Hallicrafters SX-101? also very handsome and a good performer
Or if you want something that isn't 19" wide and 75 lbs, but is about the 
same width as the Ranger, a Drake 2B.

OK, that didn't make your choices easier, did it? But I think these three 
are much better rcvrs than your list below. I like the HQ-170 for SSB but 
never enjoyed it for AM.

I couldn't make up my mind either - here's what I ended up with for my main 
vintage operating position -
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/shack3.jpg

cheers,
Nick K4NYW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


>
>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350 
> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a 
> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ 
> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to 
> check it out soon.
>
> 73,Bob



From wb5oxq at grandecom.net  Mon Feb 23 20:00:37 2009
From: wb5oxq at grandecom.net (Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:00:37 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Good Receivers for AM
References: <BB3A15CA2A3C4DAF8E13314823D9BDC2@K5XU>
Message-ID: <C163F23DFA5E4F1E97373EFEA01E864E@jimdesktop>

I had a SX 110 that was about the best short wave gen coverage receiver I 
ever owned.  Reasonably priced too.
I have had a lot of different receivers in the past few years but this has 
real good audio on am and can power a fairly large speaker easily.  Easy to 
tune too. 


From gswynar at durham.net  Mon Feb 23 20:08:35 2009
From: gswynar at durham.net (Edward Swynar)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:08:35 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33><005a01c99615$a3461ad0$0202a8c0@bernie>
	<DFE78AF503654B3D8969C5147AC85020@homevs5lb1pw9n>
Message-ID: <002501c9961c$6b90eb40$d621334a@COMPAQ>

Hi Bob,

For my $$$, I'd say you can't beat a Drake R-4 receiver (the closest thing
besides that MIGHT be a Heathkit SB-301 --- but the '301 doesn't have
160-meters, and the "stock" optional AM filter is both pricey and narrow).

Good R-4's can be had for around the $125.00 price range these days. The
R-4A's / B's and C's cost more, but for a solid, dependable all-around
rig --- for a good price --- you can't beat the R-4 with a stick, IMHO...

~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


*****************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Crawford" <crawfish at surfmore.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


> Drake 2-A is another great AM receiver. It has bandwidth of 2.4 and 4.8
kHz.
> The 2-B only goes up to 3.6 kHz. Of course, my R-390-A goes up to 6 kHz.
>
Joe
> W4AAB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
>
>
> >I have been using a Drake R4, it could be a little wider(4.8KC), but for
> > $200 it is a great little rx. Bernie W8RPW.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
> > To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> > <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
> >
> >
> >>
> >>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350
> >> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at
a
> >> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ
> >> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to
> >> check it out soon.
> >>
> >> 73,Bob
> >> ---- Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> Define "without going broke".
> >>>
> >>> Any Hallicrafters is stable enough for AM. So are the low end National
> >>> receivers.
> >>>
> >>> Do you want a ham band only or a General Coverage receiver?
> >>>
> >>> Bob Macklin
> >>> K5MYJ
> >>> Kent (Seattle), Wa,
> >>> "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
> >>> To: <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:51 AM
> >>> Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM station here in the
> >>> > shack
> >>> > I
> >>> have a Viking Ranger for the TX but picking a receiver has been a
chore
> >>> can
> >>> anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good receiver without going
> >>> broke.
> >>> >
> >>> > 73,Bob kc0hfl
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From rwpeters at swbell.net  Mon Feb 23 20:14:58 2009
From: rwpeters at swbell.net (Bob Peters)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:14:58 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
References: <24D3115EF0274C14A91E782BFCFC74B6@Bob>
Message-ID: <00d201c9961d$4fa681a0$eef384e0$@net>

Robert John K5SEE has a great BC312 old Military
radio that is General coverage for $125.00... I
know that Tracy W5TMG has a bunch of receivers F/S
and Jim K5WLQ has some Hamarlund and Hali
receivers... I know for a fact that WLQ has about
three HRO50's with complete coil sets... Very nice
receiver I bought one from him and love it...
There is for sure an abundance of receivers here
in the Dallas area...

Bob W1PE

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of Robert Perdue
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:51 PM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started

Hello I am in the process of setting up an AM
station here in the shack I have a Viking Ranger
for the TX but picking a receiver has been a chore
can anyone give me some suggestions? I want a good
receiver without going broke.

73,Bob kc0hfl 
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From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 23 20:52:43 2009
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:52:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
Message-ID: <328921.65531.qm@web53206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Here's and obseration from running AM on 6 meters.  In many cases, the ops run a classic AM TX, but then receive on something modern.  So, my TR106 is off freq by 1.5KC due to the crystal I'm using, and I get razzed about it.  If they were using a classic receiver, selectivity and the fact I am 1.5k off wouldn't be a problem.

Charlie W4MEC in NC


      

From n9jcq at aol.com  Mon Feb 23 21:49:18 2009
From: n9jcq at aol.com (n9jcq at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:49:18 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Good Receivers for AM
In-Reply-To: <C163F23DFA5E4F1E97373EFEA01E864E@jimdesktop>
References: <BB3A15CA2A3C4DAF8E13314823D9BDC2@K5XU>
	<C163F23DFA5E4F1E97373EFEA01E864E@jimdesktop>
Message-ID: <8CB64419F173E20-7BC-242E@mblk-d36.sysops.aol.com>

I have an Hallicrafters  SX-111 that I think works quite nice.  I am 
going to part with it and the matching speaker soon.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco <wb5oxq at grandecom.net>
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Good Receivers for AM






I had a SX 110 that was about the best short wave gen coverage receiver 
I
ever owned.  Reasonably priced too.
I have had a lot of different receivers in the past few years but this 
has
real good audio on am and can power a fairly large speaker easily.  
Easy to
tune too.

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From jmc05 at charterinternet.com  Tue Feb 24 11:08:50 2009
From: jmc05 at charterinternet.com (John Carrington, M.D.)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:08:50 -0800
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <042256F413FC49E8AA5B4736191A224B@cs.unc.edu>
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
	<042256F413FC49E8AA5B4736191A224B@cs.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CAD55FD9CF144E13A2DEFBEB38669940@JMCLAPTOP>

Man... Beautiful "shack"... I love this website! 


-73- 
John 
WB5CW

-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick England
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:55 PM
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started

How about a National NC-300 or 303? - great vintage looks, excellent tuning
feel, very good performance on AM, CW, and SSB.
Or a Hallicrafters SX-101? also very handsome and a good performer Or if you
want something that isn't 19" wide and 75 lbs, but is about the same width
as the Ranger, a Drake 2B.

OK, that didn't make your choices easier, did it? But I think these three
are much better rcvrs than your list below. I like the HQ-170 for SSB but
never enjoyed it for AM.

I couldn't make up my mind either - here's what I ended up with for my main
vintage operating position - http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/shack3.jpg

cheers,
Nick K4NYW
----- Original Message -----
From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


>
>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350 
> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a 
> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ 
> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to 
> check it out soon.
>
> 73,Bob


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From frederic.clarke at navy.mil  Tue Feb 24 11:15:54 2009
From: frederic.clarke at navy.mil (Clarke, Tom   AIR4.0P NATOPS)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:15:54 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <042256F413FC49E8AA5B4736191A224B@cs.unc.edu>
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
	<042256F413FC49E8AA5B4736191A224B@cs.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <18E1D66B63E25546BAAE9FBCEB6937BE7FB3E2@naeaocenez08.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil>

Hi Nick,

Just like my motto says: " Indecision represents the ultimate in
flexibility"!! 
Sorry that I missed you and John at Richmond this year, my schedule
confounded me again.
73 de Tom/W4OKW
One of the Pax River boys 


Tom Clarke
Wyle Labs,  Aeronautics
NATOPS Program Support Specialist
USN/USMC National Airworthiness Office
Naval Air Systems Command, AIR-4.0P
(301) 995-3793/DSN 995-3793
Fax: (301) 757-6599
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick England [mailto:nick at 3rdtech.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 19:55
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started

How about a National NC-300 or 303? - great vintage looks, excellent
tuning 
feel, very good performance on AM, CW, and SSB.
Or a Hallicrafters SX-101? also very handsome and a good performer
Or if you want something that isn't 19" wide and 75 lbs, but is about
the 
same width as the Ranger, a Drake 2B.

OK, that didn't make your choices easier, did it? But I think these
three 
are much better rcvrs than your list below. I like the HQ-170 for SSB
but 
never enjoyed it for AM.

I couldn't make up my mind either - here's what I ended up with for my
main 
vintage operating position -
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/shack3.jpg

cheers,
Nick K4NYW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


>
>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350 
> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked
at a 
> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ 
> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to

> check it out soon.
>
> 73,Bob




From kc0hfl at cox.net  Tue Feb 24 12:07:41 2009
From: kc0hfl at cox.net (Robert Perdue)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:07:41 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
References: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33><042256F413FC49E8AA5B4736191A224B@cs.unc.edu>
	<CAD55FD9CF144E13A2DEFBEB38669940@JMCLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <BA455040BDEF4719916549B10C71E5D8@Bob>

Thanks for all the suggestions on a receiver. What I ended up with is a 
Drake 2B and a SX-99 Traded for the Drake and 50.00 for the 99 I am finding 
out that quite a few of the local hams have this stuff sitting around. So to 
start with the line up is the Ranger,Drake and a Loudenboomer mark 2I 
restored if nothing else they should all look good setting next to each 
other!!!  Again thanks for the help and I am sure I have mant more questions 
as time goes on.

73,Bob kc0hfl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Carrington, M.D." <jmc05 at charterinternet.com>
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


> Man... Beautiful "shack"... I love this website!
>
>
> -73-
> John
> WB5CW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick England
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:55 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
>
> How about a National NC-300 or 303? - great vintage looks, excellent 
> tuning
> feel, very good performance on AM, CW, and SSB.
> Or a Hallicrafters SX-101? also very handsome and a good performer Or if 
> you
> want something that isn't 19" wide and 75 lbs, but is about the same width
> as the Ranger, a Drake 2B.
>
> OK, that didn't make your choices easier, did it? But I think these three
> are much better rcvrs than your list below. I like the HQ-170 for SSB but
> never enjoyed it for AM.
>
> I couldn't make up my mind either - here's what I ended up with for my 
> main
> vintage operating position - 
> http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/shack3.jpg
>
> cheers,
> Nick K4NYW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
>
>
>>
>>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350
>> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a
>> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ
>> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to
>> check it out soon.
>>
>> 73,Bob
>
>
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From plamarc1 at verizon.net  Tue Feb 24 12:20:46 2009
From: plamarc1 at verizon.net (Phil LaMarche)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:20:46 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <BA455040BDEF4719916549B10C71E5D8@Bob>
Message-ID: <0KFK00FTVYU8IJNO@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net>


Bob,

Excited to see you are now up and running.  I too have a restored
Loudenboomer that sits next to a Valiant and HRO 60.

Good luck.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche 
LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
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www.w9dvm.com 
800-395-7795 pin 02 
727-944-3226 
FAX 727-937-8834 
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-----Original Message-----
From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Perdue
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started

Thanks for all the suggestions on a receiver. What I ended up with is a
Drake 2B and a SX-99 Traded for the Drake and 50.00 for the 99 I am finding
out that quite a few of the local hams have this stuff sitting around. So to
start with the line up is the Ranger,Drake and a Loudenboomer mark 2I
restored if nothing else they should all look good setting next to each
other!!!  Again thanks for the help and I am sure I have mant more questions
as time goes on.

73,Bob kc0hfl
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Carrington, M.D." <jmc05 at charterinternet.com>
To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started


> Man... Beautiful "shack"... I love this website!
>
>
> -73-
> John
> WB5CW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:amradio-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick England
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:55 PM
> To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
>
> How about a National NC-300 or 303? - great vintage looks, excellent 
> tuning
> feel, very good performance on AM, CW, and SSB.
> Or a Hallicrafters SX-101? also very handsome and a good performer Or if 
> you
> want something that isn't 19" wide and 75 lbs, but is about the same width
> as the Ranger, a Drake 2B.
>
> OK, that didn't make your choices easier, did it? But I think these three
> are much better rcvrs than your list below. I like the HQ-170 for SSB but
> never enjoyed it for AM.
>
> I couldn't make up my mind either - here's what I ended up with for my 
> main
> vintage operating position - 
> http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/shack3.jpg
>
> cheers,
> Nick K4NYW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kc0hfl at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Getting started
>
>
>>
>>  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350
>> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a
>> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ
>> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to
>> check it out soon.
>>
>> 73,Bob
>
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 13:00:51 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:00:51 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
References: <COL0-DAV23F901A1D4933E5A629CE2C5AE0@phx.gbl>
	<20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510902241000l35bc8d9xf49695bf7d989a05@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM,  <kc0hfl at cox.net> wrote:
>
> ?Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350 dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to check it out soon.

It really depends what you want out of it for performance. Nice audio,
excellent selectivity, bullet-proof front end? Probably the best
overall radio would be the R-390A which can be had for the top end of
your price range if you shop outside ebay and don't mind doing some
work to bring it up to spec. Some of the earlier Hallicrafters rigs
offer nice push-pull audio output if you're seeking nice, full audio.
Early Hammarlund Super Pros and some Nationals fall into the category
too and can be found in the $200-$300 range. And as Ed said, the Drake
gear is still some of the best gear value for performance out there.

But really, pretty much any receiver with AM will work since the
signal tends to be broad enough that drift isn't a big issue. It
depends more on what you want for features and performance, size,
weight, etc. The cheaper/low end sets just tend to be a bit
more....challenging (annoying?) to use.

~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4

From ken.sands at cavtel.net  Tue Feb 24 15:58:31 2009
From: ken.sands at cavtel.net (Ken Sands)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:58:31 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902241000l35bc8d9xf49695bf7d989a05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL0-DAV23F901A1D4933E5A629CE2C5AE0@phx.gbl>
	<20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
	<9ccb8c510902241000l35bc8d9xf49695bf7d989a05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6405973d0902241258r5e828c7fmf186ddc9b7b50da@mail.gmail.com>

Nice station, Todd!!

Ken K8TFD

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM,  <kc0hfl at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Okay maybe I should have been a little more specific up to 300/350
> dollars for a receiver that would be my range I guess. I have looked at a
> few Hammurlunds and Hallicrafters that look interesting like the HQ
> 110,150,170 and I bought a SX-99 real cheap from a local Ham I hope to check
> it out soon.
>
> It really depends what you want out of it for performance. Nice audio,
> excellent selectivity, bullet-proof front end? Probably the best
> overall radio would be the R-390A which can be had for the top end of
> your price range if you shop outside ebay and don't mind doing some
> work to bring it up to spec. Some of the earlier Hallicrafters rigs
> offer nice push-pull audio output if you're seeking nice, full audio.
> Early Hammarlund Super Pros and some Nationals fall into the category
> too and can be found in the $200-$300 range. And as Ed said, the Drake
> gear is still some of the best gear value for performance out there.
>
> But really, pretty much any receiver with AM will work since the
> signal tends to be broad enough that drift isn't a big issue. It
> depends more on what you want for features and performance, size,
> weight, etc. The cheaper/low end sets just tend to be a bit
> more....challenging (annoying?) to use.
>
> ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4
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From Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net  Tue Feb 24 20:58:17 2009
From: Brett.Gazdzinski at verizon.net (Brett Gazdzinski)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:58:17 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Getting started
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510902241000l35bc8d9xf49695bf7d989a05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL0-DAV23F901A1D4933E5A629CE2C5AE0@phx.gbl>
	<20090223180113.8RN0F.72507.imail@eastrmwml33>
	<9ccb8c510902241000l35bc8d9xf49695bf7d989a05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52DEC5A520954FD4B00BDB9E2E29C8C6@brettPC>

I liked the R390a best of all the receivers I had, from the operating 
standpoint.
It was stable, accurite, had a good IF out for the scope, detector output, 
muting.
You did not have to guess the frequency like most other vintage receivers.

It did tend to break clamps on the gears, but other than that, I never had 
to do anything with it for 20 years of heavy use.

It was a bit noisy, but not bad, jumping between 160 and 10 meters was not 
something you would do often on that receiver, even 160 to 40 was a workout.

Its big, heavy and rackmount, and now, expensive.

The NC300 or 303 was also good from what I remember, although not my idea of 
a nice looking radio.

I thought the 75A4 was very poor on AM, but looked great.

I always thought something like a 75S1 could make a good AM receiver with 
some work.

An sx101 might be good, I had a Drake R4c, to narrow for AM, if people were 
off frequency, you could not hear them at all....and people seem to be off 
frequency on AM a LOT!


I sold the R390a and built my own receiver, which on 160, 80 and 40 meters 
works much better than the R390a.

A good AM receiver is really very simple, unless you want it to do all 
bands.

For 160, 80 and 40 meters, you do not need any sort of RF amp stage, a 
simple high Q link coupled tuned input works great, a LO and mixer, 2 stages 
of IF amplifcation, a hifi detector, some AGC, an S meter amp, and a 455KHz 
xtal osc for a bfo.
I used kiwa filters, which work like Collins mechanical filters, and a 
digital freq counter with a 455 KHz offset that reads the actual frequency.

So its small, light, accurite,stable, low noise, hifi.
You can also do tricks so when you change bands, the receiver is tuned to 
1880, 3880, and 7290.

So far, I have not found a receiver that sounds better on just AM, no sync 
detector or anything fancy, but its better than the sdr-iq was, or the icom 
pro3, r390a, etc.

Brett
N2DTS

 


From mkhess at kias.org  Fri Feb 27 11:27:16 2009
From: mkhess at kias.org (M. K. Hess)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:27:16 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Paint Source for a Gates-Harris BC-1H1 ???
Message-ID: <003401c998f8$415a0620$c40e1260$@org>

Hi folks,

The restoration of the BC-1H1 is coming to a close. I have most of the
electronic repair and rewire finished, and
I'm soon ready to start packing everything back into the case.

Today, being a warm day for Feb. on the East Coast. I took the case, sides,
and doors outside, and gave them a serious scrub and wash.
I got of the decades of brown sauce that had adhered to every exterior spot,
and all the black soot and dirt, removed inside and out.

On inspection there are just a lot of scratches, rust spots, and generally
bad places. I think the unit would benefit from a coat of factory paint.

Now the big question: Where can one get that interesting "Sea Foam"
greenish/grey Gates-Harris BC-1H color?

Any hints, clues, or directions???

Regards,

Mike Hess - N3EAQ
WWW.N3EAQ.NET




From kc0hfl at cox.net  Fri Feb 27 11:31:47 2009
From: kc0hfl at cox.net (Robert Perdue)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:31:47 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger solid state
Message-ID: <AADCBDC185C445C99AA38FE3514A7B74@Bob>

I am looking for the procedure to convert the 5R4 to solid state. Is it cathodes to pin 4,6 and tie the anode to pin8 does anything need to be done with the filament wiring?


Bob

From qedconsultants at embarqmail.com  Fri Feb 27 12:07:26 2009
From: qedconsultants at embarqmail.com (Bernie Doran)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:07:26 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger solid state
References: <AADCBDC185C445C99AA38FE3514A7B74@Bob>
Message-ID: <000e01c998fd$dd6e9710$0202a8c0@bernie>

The diodes  go between the plates and the filament, you should also use a 
series resistor that will provide the same or near same voltage drop as the 
5R4. no need to do anything with the filament wiring . The resister is 
probably in the range of  200 Ohms.  Probably should use two 1000 V PIV 
diodes in each leg. if you have an old octal tube base that can be a simple 
plug in.   I think plug in solid state replacements are still available. 
Bernie W8RPW  --- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger solid state


>I am looking for the procedure to convert the 5R4 to solid state. Is it 
>cathodes to pin 4,6 and tie the anode to pin8 does anything need to be done 
>with the filament wiring?
>
>
> Bob
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From k4kyv at charter.net  Fri Feb 27 12:39:19 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:39:19 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger solid state
References: <mailman.109.1235754023.23870.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1426CF7501774A99BB4F5A16A62FEE96@D65Y8B21>

> From: "Robert Perdue" <kc0hfl at cox.net>

> I am looking for the procedure to convert the 5R4 to solid state. Is it 
> cathodes to pin 4,6 and tie the anode to pin 8 does anything need to be 
> done with the filament wiring?

The ANODES go to pins 4 and 5.  Tie the cathodes together and run them to 
either pin 2 or 8.  Depending on how the transmitter is wired, if you remove 
the 5 volt filament transformer, you may need to short pins 2 and 8 
together.

In my Gates BC1-T, I removed the wiring  from the 5R4 socket entirely, and 
mounted the diodes on a separate terminal strip.  That freed up the octal 
socket for a 6AS7G tube that provides protective bias to the 833A stage for 
CW operation.

Don k4kyv
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From bguyger at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb 27 15:59:08 2009
From: bguyger at sbcglobal.net (BILL GUYGER)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:59:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Paint Source for a Gates-Harris BC-1H1 ???
References: <003401c998f8$415a0620$c40e1260$@org>
Message-ID: <408468.77228.qm@web83401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am going to use what Continental Electronics uses on their B'cast transmitters -?Sherwin Williams Polane (a Polyurethane paint) on the Bauer 707 I'm rebuilding. S-W can can mix any color take a sample piece down to them. ?Another choice is an auto bode paint supply like English Color Supply. I'm not sure if they're national or nor, but we have a whole slew of them in the DFW area.

vy 73's
Bill AD5OL





----- Original Message ----
From: M. K. Hess <mkhess at kias.org>
To: amradio at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:27:16 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Paint Source for a Gates-Harris BC-1H1 ???

Hi folks,

The restoration of the BC-1H1 is coming to a close. I have most of the
electronic repair and rewire finished, and
I'm soon ready to start packing everything back into the case.

Today, being a warm day for Feb. on the East Coast. I took the case, sides,
and doors outside, and gave them a serious scrub and wash.
I got of the decades of brown sauce that had adhered to every exterior spot,
and all the black soot and dirt, removed inside and out.

On inspection there are just a lot of scratches, rust spots, and generally
bad places. I think the unit would benefit from a coat of factory paint.

Now the big question: Where can one get that interesting "Sea Foam"
greenish/grey Gates-Harris BC-1H color?

Any hints, clues, or directions???

Regards,

Mike Hess - N3EAQ
WWW.N3EAQ.NET



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From mjcal77 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 28 07:21:01 2009
From: mjcal77 at yahoo.com (CL in NC)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:21:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England
Message-ID: <568607.85120.qm@web53205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Does anybody know if Heathkit Daystom and Heath products sold in England, were actually 'kit-i-fied' in England?  I have a DX100 coming eventually, and the only on line book I could find online now was for a DX100U, by Heath Daystom of England.  Reading through it, has all English terminology, valve for tube, tag for tube socket pin, etc., and all the hardware is in British sizes, like 4BA instead of 4-40.  Did Heath do a great job of making exportable gear, or was there a mirror subsidiary in G land?

Charlie, W4MEC in NC


      

From crawfish at surfmore.net  Sat Feb 28 08:11:01 2009
From: crawfish at surfmore.net (Joe Crawford)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:11:01 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England
References: <568607.85120.qm@web53205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57662337C8504B8384C260FF816A249E@homevs5lb1pw9n>

I have some info on that in one of my Electric Radio magazines.
                                                                             
           Joe W4AAB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
To: "AM radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:21 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England


> Does anybody know if Heathkit Daystom and Heath products sold in England, 
> were actually 'kit-i-fied' in England?  I have a DX100 coming eventually, 
> and the only on line book I could find online now was for a DX100U, by 
> Heath Daystom of England.  Reading through it, has all English 
> terminology, valve for tube, tag for tube socket pin, etc., and all the 
> hardware is in British sizes, like 4BA instead of 4-40.  Did Heath do a 
> great job of making exportable gear, or was there a mirror subsidiary in G 
> land?
>
> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
>
>
>
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From collinsradio at comcast.net  Sat Feb 28 09:19:15 2009
From: collinsradio at comcast.net (David Knepper)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:19:15 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England
References: <568607.85120.qm@web53205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<57662337C8504B8384C260FF816A249E@homevs5lb1pw9n>
Message-ID: <001701c999af$88fdc9f0$6701a8c0@davealan>

Heathkit had a factory in England when I was there in the military.

David Knepper, W3ST/W3CRA
Editor of the Collins Journal
Collins Radio Association
www.collinsra.com
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From: "Joe Crawford" <crawfish at surfmore.net>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England


>I have some info on that in one of my Electric Radio magazines.
>
>           Joe W4AAB
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
> To: "AM radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:21 AM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England
>
>
>> Does anybody know if Heathkit Daystom and Heath products sold in England,
>> were actually 'kit-i-fied' in England?  I have a DX100 coming eventually,
>> and the only on line book I could find online now was for a DX100U, by
>> Heath Daystom of England.  Reading through it, has all English
>> terminology, valve for tube, tag for tube socket pin, etc., and all the
>> hardware is in British sizes, like 4BA instead of 4-40.  Did Heath do a
>> great job of making exportable gear, or was there a mirror subsidiary in 
>> G
>> land?
>>
>> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
>>
>>
>>
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From nick at 3rdtech.com  Sat Feb 28 09:50:05 2009
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:50:05 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England
References: <568607.85120.qm@web53205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42755C2E0E144338A6F2D1C21DCB70A0@cs.unc.edu>

They had a factory and produced some of their own designs (mainly hi-fi I 
believe) and some based on Heath originals - e.g. they made a general 
coverage version of the American HR-10 receiver.
The DX-100U and DX-40U really only differ in the power supply, I believe, 
but I have never seen one up close and personal.
Here's an interesting web site http://www.heathkit.org.uk/index.html
cheers,
Nick K4NYW in NC

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From: "CL in NC" <mjcal77 at yahoo.com>
To: "AM radio" <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England


> Does anybody know if Heathkit Daystom and Heath products sold in England, 
> were actually 'kit-i-fied' in England?  I have a DX100 coming eventually, 
> and the only on line book I could find online now was for a DX100U, by 
> Heath Daystom of England.  Reading through it, has all English 
> terminology, valve for tube, tag for tube socket pin, etc., and all the 
> hardware is in British sizes, like 4BA instead of 4-40.  Did Heath do a 
> great job of making exportable gear, or was there a mirror subsidiary in G 
> land?
>
> Charlie, W4MEC in NC
>
>
>
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From mkhess at kias.org  Sat Feb 28 10:50:06 2009
From: mkhess at kias.org (M. K. Hess)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:50:06 -0500
Subject: [AMRadio] Paint Source for Gates BC-1H1 -- FOUND!
Message-ID: <002c01c999bc$3ac462a0$b04d27e0$@org>

Hi Folks,

Thanks to a suggestion by Bill Guyger - AD5OL I went to my local
Shewin-Williams store. 
They custom mixed, and got 100% color correct a gallon of paint for me.

The type is as follows:

S-W "All Surface Enamel", "Acrylic Latex Satin", "Low Sheen, Ultradeep Base"

I gave them a piece off of the BC-1H, they stuck it in their matching gizmo,
and bingo, got it on the 1st try!
The sheen may be just a hair more glossy than the original, but then it's
hard to say after 40 years, what the original "sheen" was anyway!

Thanks Bill, and hope this helps someone else!

Regards,

Mike Hess - N3EAQ
www.n3eaq.net













From k4kyv at charter.net  Sat Feb 28 12:45:19 2009
From: k4kyv at charter.net (D. Chester)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:45:19 -0600
Subject: [AMRadio] Heathkit Daystom in England
References: <mailman.87.1235840413.30204.amradio@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <0A461498C8F044B9B12263926730DF52@D65Y8B21>

The power transformers would have to be different.  In western Europe, 
including UK, they use 230 volts @ 50 Hz.

It the UK, as I  recall, the mains plugs used to have two round prongs, 
similar to the ones used on the continent, but they were a different size 
and weren't interchangeable.  Last time I was there, the UK had changed over 
to a gigantic three-prong thing that looks like what we use here for an 
electric kitchen range, with massive copper or brass prongs.  With small 
hand-held electric appliances, the plug is larger and heavier than the 
device itself.  I wonder what genius came up with that idea.

Here is a list of countries of the world and the nominal power line voltages 
and frequencies.

http://www.kropla.com/electric2.htm

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