Joe said: ACU can pretty much pay whatever he wants for a radio. There was an auction a couple years ago where he paid somewhere near $2000 for an Ameco AC1. I don't think I'd even bother trying to outbid him. I know Joe, N3IBX, outbid him on a HB transmitter a few years ago. Even Joe Walsh can't avoid the effects of the Vortex;>) Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK