Welcome to the world of cyber-crime.  If one man can invent it, another man can defeat it.  This stuff goes on all the time in the business world.  I agree with David.  If someone can be legitimately caught, without question, make an example out of them.  After reading this, I'm glad I had KP5 on all bands.  I only needed them on digital.  Now I'm wondering if THAT was legitimate.

73,

Steve, N4JQQ

On 2/7/2026 9:35 AM, David Norris via ADXA wrote:
Robotic operations are not permitted per DXCC rules. Those stations/ops doing same need their accounts locked. 

Looks like we have another PSC agenda item. 

We need to make an example out of a couple of these guys. 

73

David A. Norris, K5UZ
Director, Delta Division

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On Feb 7, 2026, at 9:25 AM, EJ Jones <[email protected]> wrote:


I suspect a lot of these stations have absent operators.
EJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jussi Eloranta <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2026 8:34:13 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ADXA] mshv issue
 
Hi Joel,

On 2/7/26 3:54 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Happens on 6 meters as well.

6m propagation goes sometimes in one direction only and this same
approach can be used :-(

> Its unfortunate, and is a sad indicator of how the integrity of operators
> has declined.

Indeed, this has to stop! I think DX peditions should consider the
following ASAP:

1) Modify the mshv software:
- If R-xx is received from a station that mshv responded to earlier
within e.g. 3 minutes then send back R and log QSO.
- If R-xx is received from a station that mshv responded to earlier
longer than 3 minutes ago, do not log the QSO & reset QSO state.
- If R-xx message is received at any point from a station that mshv did
not respond to within 15 minutes, blacklist the station for 48 hours &
possibly publish the offender information.

2) FT8 QSOs should not use livestream at all or at minimum implement 15
min delay in publishing the data.

3) Do not publish radio control data (like KP5 does). This blind calling
business seemed to start immediately when they saw that the radio is on
a given band.

Jussi (aa6kj)


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