Hi Stan,

Thanks. I saw the dxe pole but it is too short. Yes, I agree that rohn 25 would work best but, well, I am in the middle of nowhere (literally) and do not have any contacts for digging, pouring concrete etc. I have a ground auger that I have used for digging holes for my current masts but it is not well suited for bigger projects. Also managing those 80lb concrete mix bags is too much for my back (but managed to pour enough concrete for my current masts). So for the time being, I have to stick to solutions that I can do on my own (until I find people here who have the right machinery). Thus fiberglass it is for now. Also Joel had a hinge system that looked like a very nice idea for a metal pole. But again pulling a metal pole up on my own is not so easy. I already had quite some trouble with the Al telescope mast (14.5m) that has my five band spiderberam wire yagi at the top. Apparently strength and age are inversely proportional to each other :-(

Also, if a fiberglass pole breaks, I just put a new one in its place. They can also be taken down with little effort if a storm is coming. There is a 28m pole from spiderbeam that is available but it would be an overkill ($ and construction). These are pretty easy to install - just "walk them up" because they are not very heavy.

Jussi (aa6kj)

Sep 21, 2024 8:44:38 PM Stan Stockton <[email protected]>:

Forgot to paste the link to the pole I was taking about 



On Sep 21, 2024, at 8:37 PM, Stan Stockton <[email protected]> wrote:

Jussi,

This 46 foot one from DX Engineering is about as big as they come.  There are 7 sections beginning with 3” at the bottom and down 1/4” in diameter on each section going up.  7.5 feet per section x 7 sections (they claim 46 feet). Anyway the top is 1.5 in and I suppose if you have them guyed properly you might use 1.25, 1.00 and .75” to get you close to a quarter wavelength.  I had four 25G towers with one set of guys for my four square.

I think I would put up 100 feet of 25G with a little top loading, shunt feed it on 160 and run ropes off the top to have a 4 Square on 80m. A significant number of radials (50-100 of them) under each wire and all that tied in with radials under the shunt fed tower for 160 would make for a good setup.  You may or may not have to do something to detune that 100 foot tower when you are on 80m.

In my opinion this is much better than messing with many levels of guy ropes on 60 + foot fiberglass poles that probably would not survive the first 40 mph wind with a little ice on the guy ropes.

73…Stan, K5GO

On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:52 PM, Jussi Eloranta <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know a good source for approx. 20m fiberglass telescope poles? A 22m pole used to be available from spiderbeam in Germany but now their web page states that available sometime in 2025 :-( This would be for 80m quarter wave vertical(s).

Jussi

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