I am curious about the picture.  What model of rotator are you standing on and how is that pipe that comes out the bottom of the rotator secured to a plate below?  I’ve never seen a rotator suspended between two flat plates on a tower with mast material above and below the rotator.

Stan, K5GO

On Sep 7, 2024, at 7:45 PM, J. Setcer <[email protected]> wrote:


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Dennis,   Do you mean THAT antenna? I hated & hated that antenna!
I never did figure out if we even had the elements in the right order. Different owner's Manuals had different configs.

But NO. The Mast was not Pinned, just Good & tight. I trusted the rotor enough to stand on it.
- QJ
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On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 6:55 PM Dennis Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
After my comment about pinning the mast, I thought I should research the issue again since I’m getting ready to swap out a rotator.   I have to say right up front that in the last 35 years or so, I have never gone up the tower to correct an aiming error.   With rotator repairs and several antenna change-outs during that time, making  sure the mast clamps were properly tightened every few years did the job.  

I read lots of comments, many in the old tower talk forum, where the big dogs hung out.  The word most often associated with NOT pinning the mast was “nuisance” or “inconvenience”.  The words most often associated with pinning the mast was “catastrophic failure”.    A reason often given for pinning the mast was “Yaesu said to do it”.

I understand that catastrophic failure caused by pinning  is rare and unlikely, but brake wedge failure and bell housing damage were often mentioned.  This would probably only occur with a very large and/or unbalanced antenna.   The problem is that big antennas  exert more torque and are more likely to cause slippage.  Pinning the mast might be  necessary for those really big antennas.  You’re going to spend time and money maintaining a large antenna system anyway.

My antennas have usually been relatively small tribanders, except for the Mosley PRO-57, which was a little larger.  My C-3 has been trouble free and slippage free for over 20 years and I don’t expect any problems.  If I had a 30 foot boom, I would anticipate problems, such as more rotator failure, weather damage, sheared mast pin bolts, etc.  That’s one reason I stick with smaller antennas.

This article seems sensible:  

I just remembered something - At our club station, we had a KLM KT-34XA, which was a pretty big tribander.  (about a 36 foot boom and very unbalanced).  We found a bunch of ball bearings on the ground from its Ham-4 after some wind.  I don’t remember if the mast was pinned, or just good and tight, but it did not slip, and there was catastrophic damage to the rotator.  Would it have helped if the mast had slipped?  Maybe, maybe not.

I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, or soliciting comments or arguments - it’s like politics, everyone has their minds made up.  By all means, do what you are comfortable with.   I just did this research to refresh my knowledge and wanted to share my thoughts.   I learn a lot from ADXA members and seldom have anything technical to contribute.

73,
Dennis/RZ
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