George, read W3LPL's paper on six meter antenna height.  50' the best and 40' no problem.  My antenna is at about 80' and I can tell people with lower antennas are smoking me.  This is a 28' boom.  I just didn't know at the time.  Many ops have antennas they can switch between at different heights.  When I first got exposed to six meter DX in WDC, it was when F2 was hopping.  Everyone told me bigger and higher for F2.  That might be true but Frank, LPL, says 50' is best for E DX.  Maybe Joel has further comments.  I would love to lower my six meter antenna but it would be terrific job.

Kind regards and 73,

Steve

On 8/24/2024 9:40 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Some gud DX there George.

 

32 ft is an excellent height for a 6 meter antenna. If you believe you need a 50 MHz antenna at 120 ft for 99% of the six meter DX, then create a model of your antenna and run a simulation of the vertical pattern at that height and the nulls will surprise you!!!!!!

 

ZN

 

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of WB5JJJ
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2024 9:32 AM
To: ADXA Mailing List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ADXA] BE ALERT - E51EME

 

I've been lucky with my 6m Oceania contacts.  Here is my paltry list of 73 compared to many ADXA members.  But I've only had a decent 6m beam at 32' for about 10 years and NO amp.  I'm still surprised as to how well it works WHEN CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT.  Otherwise, it might as well be a dummy load up there.  I got ONE Hawaii and TWO Alaska within about 15 minutes last year to round out my WAS on 6m. 

 

DXCC Entity

6M

ALASKA

NL7S

ANGUILLA

VP2ETE

ARGENTINA

LU9DO

ARUBA

P41E

AUSTRALIA

VK4MA

AZORES

CT8/K0RUI

BAHAMAS

C6ABB

BALEARIC ISLANDS

EA6SX

BARBADOS

8P6ET

BELGIUM

ON7GB

BELIZE

V31DL

BERMUDA

VP9NM

BONAIRE

PJ4BZL

BRAZIL

PV8DX

CANADA

VE2NGH

CANARY ISLANDS

EA8TL

CAYMAN ISLANDS

ZF1EJ

CHILE

CE3SX

COLOMBIA

HK3JJH

COSTA RICA

TI2CDA

CROATIA

9A8A

CUBA

CO2QU

CURACAO

PJ2MAN

CZECH REPUBLIC

OK1MR

DENMARK

OZ3K

DOMINICA

J79WTA

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC

HI8RD

ECUADOR

HC2DR

ENGLAND

G0HVQ

FALKLAND ISLANDS

VP8NO

FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY

DK1MAX

FIJI ISLANDS

3D2AG

FRANCE

F5BZB

GALAPAGOS ISLANDS

HD8MD

GREENLAND

OX3LX

GRENADA

J35X

GUADELOUPE

FG1JS

GUATEMALA

TG9ANF

HAITI

HH2AA

HAWAII

KH6HI

HONDURAS

HR9/K6VHF

ICELAND

TF1A

IRELAND

EI3KD

ISLE OF MAN

GD0TEP

ITALY

I4KYO

JAPAN

JA7QVI

MADEIRA ISLANDS

CT3MD

MAURITANIA

5T5PA

MEXICO

XE2X

NETHERLANDS

PA5Y

NEW ZEALAND

ZL1RS

NORTHERN IRELAND

GI6ATZ

NORWAY

LA8AJA

PANAMA

HP2AT

PARAGUAY

ZP9HTL

PERU

OA1F

POLAND

SP3AM

PORTUGAL

CT1IUA

PUERTO RICO

WP4JCF

SAINT LUCIA

J68HZ

SCOTLAND

GM4VGR

SLOVENIA

S57RR

SPAIN

EA4EJR

SURINAME

PZ5RA

SWEDEN

SM6NOC

SWITZERLAND

HB9Q

TRINIDAD & TOBAGO

9Y4D

UKRAINE

UT7QF

UNITED NATIONS HQ

4U1UN

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

K4N

URUGUAY

CX7CO

US VIRGIN ISLANDS

KV4FZ

VENEZUELA

YV5DRN

WALES

MW0ZZK

 

73's

George - WB5JJJ
HoIP - 100105

 

 

On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 9:18 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

Greetings ADXA Folks,

 

Be alert in the afternoons on 6 meters for E51EME on 50.313 FT8. Bob was heard by several stations just to our south yesterday. This is South Cook Island. Some of you have worked E51WL who is on North Cook, so E51EME would be a new one for those who may have not worked Bob on 6 meters before. Occasionally he gets on 10 meters in the afternoon as well so listen there if you need that one on 10.

 

Bob is on South Cook for a couple of weeks “vacation” from his home in New Zealand (ZL1RS). For this trip he brought a much improved 6 meter antenna system, running two stacked 5 element Yagis. His TX power is 1KW so with just a little enhancement you should hear him. His antennas look out over the ocean and his RX is good.

 

The past two nights (around 3 AM) I’ve watched him on EME and his EME signal has averaged between -20 to -25 (which is a VERY GOOD EME signal). He cannot elevate the antennas so he is only on EME during his moonrise (MR) and moonset (MS).

 

So, BE ALERT for the next few afternoons and point your antenna around 240 degrees azimuth. You can see his “blog” on his E51EME QRZ.com page.

 

73 Joel W5ZN

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