[ADXA] Message From DXAC - Delta

w5znjoel at gmail.com w5znjoel at gmail.com
Mon Mar 16 20:28:32 EDT 2026


Well those did legitimately meet the criteria at the time they were added. Whether they should now be deleted because they don’t meet the current criteria is a separate question to address and debate and not related to lowering the threshold for DXCC Honor Roll.

 

Regarding how many have been active in the last 10 years, during our ADXA 2023 annual conference Bernie, W3UR, was our special guests and he gave a presentation on exactly that topic.

 

Maybe the upcoming June or September meeting program should focus on DX and invite Bernie to be the guest……or we may have him back for the annual conference in November !! Another excellent resource is our own Bill Kennamer, K5FUV who was Mr. DXCC, aka “The DXCC Desk” at HQ for several years after Don Search.

 

73 Joel W5ZN

 

From: adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net <adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Roger via ADXA
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2026 7:07 PM
To: adxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ADXA] Message From DXAC - Delta

 

Joel
I agree with you completely my only complaint is not the threshold for Honor Roll but the maintaining entities that do not and never have qualified legitimately.
I will not get farther into that discussion.
A question I would like to see an answer to, and the answer has no influence on my opinion, just curiosity and I don't know if anyone has an answer.
How many entities have been active in the last 10 years?

Roger



On 3/16/2026 6:48 PM, Joel Harrison, W5ZN via ADXA wrote:

ADXA Folks,

 

That a country does not allow amateur radio, or it has not been activated in 10 years or more is simply not a valid argument and has been debunked here many times. Three prime historical examples are China, Albania, and Viet Nam. There are ADXA members (me included) who cried to the high heavens we could NEVER work those countries because amateur radio wasn’t allowed. I remember ole Jim Crowley, W5IRG (SK) in Hazen claiming he would die before he could ever work BY. Then, low and behold out of no where and all of a sudden amateur radio was allowed in China. Same with Viet Nam and Albania. There are other examples. So these countries that are not on the air as of today, March 16, 2026, could change on a dime tomorrow. It has happened before and will happen again.

 

How many of you thought you would NEVER have a shot a Bouvet after the last failed effort a couple of years ago? How many of you thought you would never have a shot a Peter 1? That one is planned by the group that just very successfully pulled off Bouvet. The recent KP5 operation was a very successful experiment that proved to the U.S. Gov’t that amateur radio could be used in a restricted area with very minimal human intervention. The result will prove beneficial in activating other restricted areas that some of you need. I can tell you for a fact there are ongoing discussions with world governments to activate some countries that are currently highly restricted. It is unknown if those negotiations will be productive, but the effort is being made.

 

I still want to hear a valid argument as to why some folks believe they are entitled to achieve DXCC Honor Roll? DXCC is not, and never has been, an entitlement program. North Korea is standing in the way of me having #1 Honor Roll and I may very well be SK before it is activated again but that does not entitle me to an achievement level that would be watered down and the requirements lowered simply because of an entitlement belief. 

 

I do realize and agree there are a couple of entities on the list that seem ridiculous. Roger noted Scarborough Reef as one but that is a different matter to address in the DXCC rules than lowering the requirement for Honor Roll.

 

All of the current arguments to reduce the required level to achieve Honor Roll are nothing more than entitlement crying because some believe their DXCC achievement should receive some special reward. Well, it is rewarded by acknowledging the total number of DXCC entities they have confirmed and if you’re over 300 that is very special, but it does NOT warrant Honor Roll.

 

If I haven’t pissed enough of you off already let me finish by saying it is now easier to work DX than ever before thanks to FT8. Don’t believe me? I have a friend who just got on FT8 about 3 weeks ago and he has already worked 200 DXCC countries. 20 years ago that would have NEVER, NEVER, EVER happened in that period of time.

 

DX’ing is a marathon, not a sprint. I want to see every ADXA member achieve Honor Roll and I want to help you get there, but not by believing you are entitled to achieve it with lowered requirements.   

 

73 Joel W5ZN





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