[ADXA] mshv issue

Jussi Eloranta eloranta at aa6kj.hopto.org
Sat Feb 7 10:46:17 EST 2026


Many of these scammers are at their radio. Once in a while you see them transmitting the wrong thing :-) A bot won't do that.

But, yes, there have been documented cases of robo operator software that work every new dxcc entity they find. I know that in Finland one guy got busted for doing this. But that is slightly different topic.

Jussi (aa6kj)

Feb 7, 2026 9:25:26 AM EJ Jones <k5ej at outlook.com>:

> I suspect a lot of these stations have absent operators.
> EJ
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> *To:* w5znjoel at gmail.com <w5znjoel at gmail.com>; adxa at mailman.qth.net <adxa at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [ADXA] mshv issue
>  
> Hi Joel,
> 
> On 2/7/26 3:54 AM, w5znjoel at gmail.com wrote:
>> Happens on 6 meters as well.
> 
> 6m propagation goes sometimes in one direction only and this same
> approach can be used :-(
> 
>> Its unfortunate, and is a sad indicator of how the integrity of operators
>> has declined.
> 
> Indeed, this has to stop! I think DX peditions should consider the
> following ASAP:
> 
> 1) Modify the mshv software:
> - If R-xx is received from a station that mshv responded to earlier
> within e.g. 3 minutes then send back R and log QSO.
> - If R-xx is received from a station that mshv responded to earlier
> longer than 3 minutes ago, do not log the QSO & reset QSO state.
> - If R-xx message is received at any point from a station that mshv did
> not respond to within 15 minutes, blacklist the station for 48 hours &
> possibly publish the offender information.
> 
> 2) FT8 QSOs should not use livestream at all or at minimum implement 15
> min delay in publishing the data.
> 
> 3) Do not publish radio control data (like KP5 does). This blind calling
> business seemed to start immediately when they saw that the radio is on
> a given band.
> 
> Jussi (aa6kj)
> 
> 
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