[ADXA] 60-Meter Follow Up

Fri Dec 12 21:19:41 EST 2025

Merry Xmas to you Debbie.  Enjoy the holiday.

Steve, N4JQQ

On 12/12/2025 5:25 PM, Debbie McKenzie wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all! May you get the antenna or radio you have been 
> dreaming of.. white Christmas is optional. The perfect snow to me 
> comes Christmas morning and melts by dark!
>
> Thank you Dennis Schaefer for the congrats. I don’t know about 
> deserving, hey, but I’m trying!
>
> Busy, busy here, concerts, field trips, and wrapping presents. Another 
> granddaughter wants us to go with them on a carriage ride. Archery 
> tournament tomorrow, but I did get 4U1UN on 10m today and caught 
> French Guinea on ssb yesterday, trying to fill in the slots!
>
> Everyone be safe, eat lots of cookies and hide the scales!
>
> 73
> KI5QQG
> Debbie
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 12:14 PM Charles McKenzie <kf5tl at outlook.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Yes we had read the 30 meter rules, thus jumped at the chance at
>     the jk 304 when it became available, I’ve not been happy with the
>     302 since we put it up, most likely performance wise it’s my
>     fault, I’ll take the hit. I am now going thru the 304 to see what
>     I need to get it together once we move it all. The 302 was part of
>     a 15-17-30 antenna, just using the 30, 2 elements and it will be
>     for sale once the antennas are removed so we can move the towers. 
>     So thanks for the warning , appreciate it!
>     Merry Christmas to you all
>     73
>     KF5TL
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>>     On Dec 12, 2025, at 8:13 AM, w5zn at w5zn.org wrote:
>>
>>     
>>
>>     Steve N4JQQ and I were just discussing 60-meters and he observed
>>     that the current FT8 frequency channel of 5357 KHz will be
>>     removed from the current five as only four of the five frequency
>>     channels will be retained. This is because 5357 KHz falls within
>>     the new allocation of 5351.5 to 5366.5 KHz but there is one MAJOR
>>     catch – operating on 5357 KHz under the new allocation will no
>>     longer allow 100 watts ERP and must be reduced to 10 watts ERP
>>     (actually 9 point something but close enuf).
>>
>>     So, once the new allocation becomes effective you (we) 60-meter
>>     FT8 folks will have to crank it back!! Also note this is “ERP”
>>     which is referenced to a dipole so if you’re using a gain antenna
>>     you must to scale it back even further. Who uses a gain antenna
>>     on 60-meters??
>>
>>     Also as a follow up to my previous 30-meter note and the 200 watt
>>     PEP power limit, this is PEP, not ERP. If it were ERP you folks
>>     with the BIG 30-meter antennas would have to scale it back quite
>>     a bit, but since it is PEP you’re OK! 😊
>>
>>     73 Joel W5ZN
>>
>>     *From:*adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>     <adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> *On Behalf Of *w5znjoel at gmail.com
>>     *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2025 7:43 AM
>>     *To:* adxa at mailman.qth.net
>>     *Subject:* [ADXA] 60-Meter Follow Up
>>
>>     If I sound like I’m beating a dead horse, I am because it is
>>     important that we ADXA folks understand 60-meters and the power
>>     limits in place, and those for the expanded allocation
>>     forthcoming. It makes no difference what others may do. If Tommy
>>     wants to jump off a cliff, let him, you don’t have to follow
>>     (wise statement I heard from my mom on multiple occasions).
>>
>>     The following is from the ARRL website:
>>
>>     “Amateurs are cautioned that this allocation is strictly on a
>>     secondary basis, and amateurs must avoid interfering with
>>     non-amateur stations using this spectrum. This obligation
>>     includes the responsibility to monitor for such stations using
>>     appropriate receiver bandwidths. The FCC emphasized that
>>     “allowing amateur operations in this band while fully protecting
>>     incumbent primary Federal operations is our priority, and even
>>     intermittent interference in this band could jeopardize important
>>     Federal operations.”
>>
>>     The Commission left open ARRL’s 2017 Petition for Rulemaking
>>     <https://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-invites-comments-on-arrl-petition-to-allocate-new-5-mhz-band>
>>     to implement this WRC allocation (RM-11785), stating that “we
>>     expect the Commission may address any necessary power adjustments
>>     for the new 15 kilohertz international allocation in that
>>     proceeding.” ARRL will be observing operations in the new band to
>>     evaluate the effect of the 9.15-watt limit and already has been
>>     monitoring the regulations and experiences of amateurs in other
>>     countries.”
>>
>>     By the way, you do know there is a power limit of 200 watts PEP
>>     on 30 meters in the USA, don’t you??? Same reason.
>>
>>     73 Joel W5ZN
>>
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