[ADXA] Odd Experience Last Night

WB5JJJ wb5jjj at gmail.com
Sat Jan 1 13:26:33 EST 2022


I've seen this happen several times when a REAL, rare DXer is on the air.
Someone will go into Fox mode to entice those calling the DX station to
respond to them instead.  Just a ploy to make contacts.  The main reason, I
surmise, for a "local" to run Fox is because he/she knows that the DX
chasers are not running normal FT8 and their responses will not work
properly.  While others will just call folks using normal FT8 probably
because they don't know what's going on and hopefully no one will answer
their directed call.  Maybe they don't realize why everybody is calling the
same station and figured they would get some easy contacts.  It don't' work
that way.  I won't ever answer them.

The best thing is to just ignore them and let them call all they want.
Eventually, they just might get the idea that their mode of operation is
not acceptable.  And if you are really wanting to fight with them, see if
they use the JTAlert F5 message system.  If so, flame them there, it's
private.  Or just send them an email if they have an addy on QRZ.com too.

As long as they are not transmitting on the real Fox's frequency and time
slot, I just let them pollute the airwaves.  Everybody knows who they
appear to be and will just hopefully continue to ignore them.

73's
George - WB5JJJ


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On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 12:13 PM Scott Branyan <sbranyan at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi, John.
>
> It could be an acknowledged flaw in the Auto Sequencing that allows "QSO
> Hijacking." See the WSTJ-X tips and tricks.
> See https://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/FT8_Operating_Tips.pdf
>
> Caller might have been trying to contact you because he "needed you," and
> the sequencing switched callers on you. I believe I've had that happen to
> me before and also have seen it happening from my call to a DX station
> coming back to me instead of the caller he was in QSO with. Agast!
>
> If it's consistently happening with other callers, it may be a pirate that
> figured out how to skirt the system and throw confusion among the ranks. A
> use can set any callsign as theirs in the settings.
>
> Just my opinion based on what I've seen, but see what others have to say.
>
> 73 es Happy New Year,
>
> Scott/W5AAJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of John McKinnie
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 11:44 AM
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> Cc: John McKinnie
> Subject: [ADXA] Odd Experience Last Night
>
> Last night I had something happen that I haven’t seen before.  I was
> trying to work SV2RSG/A on 40 meters.  He was in F/H mode.  I got a
> response in F/H mode but it wasn’t from SV2.  It was a stateside station
> running F/H mode and it wasn’t a special event station or anything like
> that.
>
> Was chatting with George WB5JJJ as we were both trying to work Mt Athos.
> It was a bit confusing and George helped me figure out what was happening.
> Thank you George. I would imagine that there are quite a few stations that
> were going to be pretty upset with that US station.
>
> Anyone else ever have that happen?
>
> HNY everyone!
>
> John
> KT4AC
>
>
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