[ADXA] A contest club? Thoughts?
Steve Norris
w5ki at silverlarkcrafts.com
Tue Feb 23 12:33:55 EST 2021
Boy ... do I 2nd that thought, Bill. But after decades, I don't think
we'll see all scores in QST. That ship has sailed.
Sad too. I think one of the more enjoyable things in my early years was
to see my call (and everyone else) in print in QST for a contest ...
even little scores. Knowing it's available on a digital file somewhere
is not the same. Too bad the new generations don't get to see their
call in original "black & white". Not reprinted B&W from 1's and 0's. :>)
Steve, W5KI
On 2/23/2021 7:37 AM, BILL KENNAMER wrote:
> Yes, there is a club competition for ARRL DX. Three categories, large,
> medium, and small. Secretary submits a club roster, members check the
> box for log submission.
> Ant score is welcome, it all adds to the club score.
>
> Yes, DX clubs, such as Arizona DX, Northern Cal DX, etc, submit
> scores. Club scores are listed somewhere, although I’ve never agreed
> with current ARRL policy of not listing all contest scores. They say
> space in QST is too valuable for score listings. I say it’s a
> membership journal, and member’s activities should be shown, I say
> it’s more important than reprinting pages of back issues of QST.
>
> FUV
>
>
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> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 6:57 AM, w5zn at w5zn.org wrote:
>
> If I'm not correct with what I'm about to say regarding a club
> listing, Bill Kennamer can correct me, but let's be clear about
> why the club "can" be listed. In some contests there is a club
> competition so the logs/scores submitted from individual stations,
> within certain geographical parameters, can add to and support a
> club score.
>
> The ARRL DX contests do not have a club competition so whether you
> enter "ADXA" as the club or not has absolutely zero impact on your
> log or anyone else's log submission/score in this contest. I don't
> even believe the club name is listed in any of the results for
> this specific contest. What it does, in simple terms, is document
> the fact that we are active regardless of how many contacts one
> station made. Also, for those who post their score on the 3830
> claimed scoreboard most folks indicate a club. This is nothing
> more than a brag sheet on the site but hey, what's wrong with
> showing support for your group? How do you think PVRC, YCCC and
> others became so well known beyond their local area?
>
> Bill SJ, for me personally there is no difference between a DX'er
> and a contester! When I'm asked if I'm a contester I say "yes!".
> The response is usually "I thought you were a DX'er?" to which I
> respond "Yes!". I fail to see any difference whatsoever. I'm a
> ham, period!
>
> So, here's the bottom line......GET IN THERE AND WORK 'EM! What
> really gets me all excited is everyone in ADXA who does get on
> during a DX contest and works some stations, regardless of how
> many you work, and it also provides a good opportunity to try
> something like Dennis did....Hey, he's working on his QRP DXCC !!!!!!
>
> 73 Joel W5ZN
>
> On 2021-02-22 19:22, Bill Priakos wrote:
>
>> Hey, Bill; Joel, I think that is it – we just submit ADXA with no
>> reference to "contest club" – we are DXer's first and contesters,
>> second.... 😊
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> W5SJ
>>
>> */Bill Priakos/*
>>
>> */10 Free Ferry Heights/*
>>
>> */Fort Smith, AR 72903/*
>>
>> */479.461.8368/*
>>
>> *From:* BILL KENNAMER <k5fuv at prodigy.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2021 8:16 PM
>> *To:* w5zn at w5zn.org; Bill Priakos <bill at priakos.com>
>> *Cc:* adxa <adxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ADXA] A contest club? Thoughts?
>>
>> I didn't do this one seriously, but submitted as ADXA. That's a
>> choice for log submission now.
>>
>> FUV
>>
>>
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>> On Monday, February 22, 2021, 6:13 PM, w5zn at w5zn.org
>> <mailto:w5zn at w5zn.org> wrote:
>>
>> Well, it was a "DX" contest!!!!!!!!
>>
>> I don't know Bill. The listing has been discussed here before
>> but don't recall the specifics. From my perspective its
>> splitting hairs. ADXA promotes DX but also promotes good
>> technical knowledge to build an excellent station (regardless
>> of size), operator improvement and ethics. The difference
>> between DX'ers and contesters is minimal, if any at all. When
>> we had W3LPL as our featured guest at our 2018 annual
>> conference I was asked by one person why were we having a
>> "contester" as our featured guest. Well, let's see, Frank has
>> built one of the top DX contest stations in the world, he is
>> subject matter expert on propagation, antennas and ethical
>> operating. Wow, isn't that everything a DX'er wants? Besides,
>> he is on the DXCC Honor Roll !!!!!
>>
>> So, drawing a line in the sand between DX'ers and contesters
>> serves no purpose but having our contest logs identify "ADXA"
>> as the club, especially for a DX contest, simply promotes
>> ADXA and shows the world we're a group of first class
>> operators and we are active on the air.....even if it is with
>> 700 mW!
>>
>> I also noted "ADXA" for my log submission. For those who plan
>> to submit a log please do so as well. In addition, if you
>> have already submitted a log and did not indicate ADXA please
>> resubmit it (you can do that before the deadline) and
>> indicate ADXA as the club.
>>
>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>
>> On 2021-02-22 16:58, Bill Priakos via ADXA wrote:
>>
>> A thought – I just submitted my log and under club, I put
>> "ADXA". I don't think I have heard of any formal
>> addition, but if we did have a club, I would certainly
>> submit my score. So, are we a contest club as well as a
>> DXA? ADXA Contest Club? A supplemental club to our main
>> purpose?
>>
>> BP
>>
>> W5SJ
>>
>> /*Bill Priakos*/
>>
>> /*10 Free Ferry Heights*/
>>
>> /*Fort Smith, AR 72903*/
>>
>> /*479.461.8368*/
>>
>> *From:* adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> <mailto:adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>> <adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> <mailto:adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> *On Behalf Of
>> *w5zn at w5zn.org <mailto:w5zn at w5zn.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2021 5:19 PM
>> *To:* Dennis Schaefer <dennisw5rz at gmail.com
>> <mailto:dennisw5rz at gmail.com>>
>> *Cc:* adxa <adxa at mailman.qth.net
>> <mailto:adxa at mailman.qth.net>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ADXA] 9 volts, 24 countries
>>
>> Wow that's amazing Dennis!!!!
>>
>> The one thing I really like about this contest is the DX
>> station sends their power level. I worked a horde of 5
>> watt stations, mostly all JA's. In the past when I would
>> work single band 80 and I would work one 5 watt DL
>> station it was almost like an alarm was sounded within
>> the Bavarian QRP club over there and they all line up for
>> a Q. Unfortunately, several of them were a real strain to
>> copy. This weekend I had to shake my head several times
>> when I would work a very copyable 5 watt station then I
>> would struggle with the next station that would send
>> "KW"!!!! Says a lot about a good antenna!!!
>>
>> Anyway your run this weekend is quite impressive!
>>
>> ZN
>>
>> On 2021-02-21 21:10, Dennis Schaefer wrote:
>>
>> I decided to try another "9 volt battery" effort in
>> the ARRL CW DX contest with my little red rig - the
>> LNR MTR-4b v2. I grabbed a 9V battery off the desk
>> that had been used for something else but measured a
>> bit over 9 volts. I operated about 2 hours. Power
>> at the beginning was 1.2 watts and by the end,
>> voltage was 7.7 and power output was 700 milliwatts.
>> I stayed mainly on 20 meters and found that many DX
>> stations answered me on the first call. Some required
>> several calls and a very few couldn't copy me at all.
>> I was surprised that it worked so well since I was
>> down an average of 30 db from a kw station.
>>
>> I worked 50 stations, 47 on 20 meters, and 3 on 40.
>> I had 23 multipliers on 20 meters and 3 on 40. I
>> think one on 40 was not duplicated on 20, so that was
>> actually 24 countries worked and that didn't count
>> the US or Canada.
>>
>> The little MTR-4b v2 is an amazing rig. With 12
>> volts, it will output 5 watts, CW only. It has a
>> built-in voltmeter, SWR meter, and wattmeter. It's
>> not like operating a "big rig" but it is just a
>> little bigger than a pack of cards. I'll be taking
>> it out to the park when the weather gets a little better.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dennis
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