[ADXA] Baudot decode RTTY etc

[w5zn at w5zn.org]

Oh, you mean just like folks calling on the DX frequency when the DX is
split??? 

Hell San, its the same old thing, just a different mode and no
different. You can't pin that solely on FT8!! 

ZN 

On 2020-07-01 09:45, HamOP wrote:

> HI HI    
> 
> But a bit more control and can carry on a conversation on RTTY and no need for sequencing at 15 or 30 second intervals, etc. . The internal electronics of my Icom 7600s do the RTTY and NO external hookups to my PC across the room and installation of FT8 technology software which has evolved to FT4 too and others predicted in the next year, etc. Even today, many FT8 guys get confused about just how, when and where to call a DX station and DX Summit is full of corrections. The DXpeditions have to explain just what FT8 protocol they are doing in advance, so as not to confuse those calling. That is good, if you read the editorial updates of the DXpedition and don't call blindly on what you think are the FT8 refinements being used. 
> 
> 73, Bill... 
> 
> San 
> 
> Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10 
> 
> FROM: BILL KENNAMER
> SENT: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:29 AM
> TO: HamOP; Joel Harrison
> CC: adxa at mailman.qth.net
> SUBJECT: Re: [ADXA] AGREE with "unattended" operation being illegal in USA .... but, 
> 
> Sounds just like rtty to me.  I can't decode Baudot in my head either, so I keep the volume turned down.
> 
> FUV 
> 
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> 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 9:56 AM, HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net> wrote: 
> 
> Yes it is an "attended" mode of operation and legal; you do have to SEE the printouts and click a button now and then to complete the QSO, but you sure don't actually hear what is being said if in the _subaudible ranges_. 
> 
> If audible sounds at the + 20dB in USA to USA contacts or lower + dB range around the world, you DO hear the oscillating tones but _no deciphering of meaningful conversation_ unless a software "assist" is involved. So, yes, "attending to" the "situation" _in person _is required and not denied by many 1000s of hams who still call it the "non human mode"... They all have tongues in cheeks and smiles, like K5UR has stated. 😊 
> 
> That's all I am saying, that some non human software stuff is required for the "attended" to operation of FT8. It sure has changed ham radio and especially DXing, just like SSB did to AM in the late 50s to early 60s. I was there. Took a while to convert but QSOs were easier on the narrower SSB passband and with weaker signals being copied. 
> 
> FT8 will still be here when the demise of ham radio might happen unless new, younger hams get in our hobby. We all agreed to that at the Russellville forums. I will be one of those who continues to smile and frown at various times depending on the different situations being discussed.  IIWII 
> 
> San     Have a good day all ADXA members!! I did work a TI2 on CW this morning. 
> 
> Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10 
> 
> FROM: Joel Harrison
> SENT: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:15 AM
> TO: HamOP
> CC: Steve Norris; adxa at mailman.qth.net
> SUBJECT: Re: 6m 100 worked club increasing.. Congrats for ur efforts. 
> 
> My FT8 is HUMAN CONTROLLED!!! 
> 
> Automatic unattended operation is not legal in the USA 
> 
> On Jul 1, 2020, at 8:59 AM, HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net> wrote: 
> 
> Think I will start calling FT8 the "BLOW BY" mode since so many are approaching or already blowing by me on 6 meters! 
> 
> San   >  the human controlled SSB/CW/RTTY guy.. 😊 
> 
> Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10

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