[ADXA] Loose Cannon on the bands

w5zn at w5zn.org w5zn at w5zn.org
Tue Dec 29 17:04:11 EST 2020


George - excellent story and highlights the importance of Elmer'ing 
regardless of how long the "Elmeree" has been a ham! Thanks for sharing.


Also thanks for taking the time to provide some good education for this
gentleman. 

ZN 

On 2020-12-29 12:28, WB5JJJ wrote:

> Along the same lines, but derails about halfway down my post, but still somewhat relevant.   
> 
> I was working with a new FT user several months ago.  He really didn't have a full understanding of what was going on, like so many new users.  For example, he would have someone answer his CQ and he returned the call.  Then he would log the contact and QSY to another frequency looking for a new contact thinking he had completed the last contact.  He just left the first one hanging out to dry and moved on.  And he wondered why they kept sending him info after he logged the "contact" and just one TX response on his part.  It took a lot of simulation on air to get him to understand that it takes about 1 minute for the completion of the contact cycle.   
> 
> Now that he understands FT protocol, it was on to LoTW and the WAS counts.  He thought if he worked 50 people in the USA, that was a WAS.  Not so, he was missing out on the "A" (worked ALL states) no matter what band or how many times he worked a single state.  And DXCC was an even bigger challenge.  He would work a DX, say Canada or Mexico, on several bands and wonder why his DXCC count didn't increase.  Again, he worked Canada or Mexico on 5 bands and LoTW was showing only 2 DXCC and not 10.  We finally drove those points home as well.   
> 
> As for LoTW, he was wondering why if he logged them there, why they were not confirmed as he had confirmed them in his own log.  And this guy has been a ham for a couple decades, but never did anything but SSB, paper logs and direct mail QSL's, so LoTW was a whole new world to him.  Finally convinced him that it "Takes Two to Tango'' in the online logbook era.  All along he was entering info from his QSL card stack to LoTW.  After my "Elmering" I kinda took the air out of his overinflated ego.  Sorry guy.   
> 
> He thought he was a lot further along on both WAS and DXCC until the realization hit him.  Now he understands why it takes some folks (like me) a long time to get my 1st DXCC and now even almost 3 of them in 45+ years of operation.  But I do have DXCC's (mixed) on 7 bands now.  Only 92 to go on 160m,  29 on 80m and 55 on 6m.  Antenna compromises on 160m and 80m are my excuses for low counts there.  6m is just down due to propagation.   
> 
> 73's 
> 
> George - WB5JJJ 
> 
> 4 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:57 PM <w5zn at w5zn.org> wrote: 
> 
> Yea, that practice is very unfortunate. 
> 
> ZN 
> 
> On 2020-12-28 15:56, Rory Bowers wrote: 
> 
> I very seldom say anything about someone's operating procedure but EL2BG is a loose cannon.  I found him on 20M FT8 yesterday with a very nice signal from Liberia.  So I called him and he answered with a nice signal report.  That is when the problem started... no RR 73, no RRR... nothing.  He left me stranded sending my signal report until I gave up, wondering what in the heck went wrong.  I watched the band for a few minutes and found him doing the same thing to other stations.  I tried another contact with him and he did the same thing again.  I sent him an email respectfully informing him that our attempts were not complete and not in my log.  He wrote back that his log says both were good and sent me this... 
> 
> A blank QSL card by email.  Rich holds a DXCC and proclaims to be a Master Mason.  It is not acceptable in the fraternity to speak badly of a fellow Mason but I can not abide by his operating practice. 
> 73, 
> Rory, K5CKS 
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