[ADXA] 3Y0, DXCC ….. our continual DX chasing …. fun stuff

[HamOP]

So true and needs to be stopped for sure. 
And HI HI on your last comment. Don’t you DARE stop speaking truths.
Gotta run for now. Everyone have a good weekend chasing the last of the ill fated, poorly run XR0 trip, when nobody speaks good English except two ops and only a few SSB QSOs are in the log… check ClubLog. It will shock you. No attempt to try SSB on another band. I can make the number of SSB QSOs they have in just a two hour seating at the op desk. 
San 

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Subject: Re: [ADXA]3Y0, DXCC ….. our continual DX chasing …. fun stuff

San, 
You will recall a few years ago when there was a rush to locate new DXCC entities after a rules change a location would be identified well BEFORE the DXAC and ARRL could review it's legitimacy. One person's game plan, along with a group, was to shuttle down quickly to a questionable location and activate it, make 60,000 Q's claiming it was going to be a "new one" then draw a line in the sand and dare ARRL not to count it for DXCC with 60,000 folks breathing down their neck.
The politics of the DXCC program!
And.....opposite of what I said in my long email to the reflector earlier, "that's all I have to say about that!" :-)))
ZN


On 2019-03-29 06:59, HamOP wrote:
Think Dom had the smarts to get Martti and Mr. Mills involved? Hmmm   Thinking perhaps that getting BH's approval would lend credibility to Dom's DXpedition, credibility that was LOST by previous DXped "events" and QSLing practices. Brought it on himself the vast majority thinks, therefore no foundation, club pretrip donations and very few individual donations. Everyone saw this coming. 
 
I am disappointed Martti got involved, but it gave him an Ambassador nametag and put him in the limelight for a while longer.. He came up with Kosovo and Mills pushed that venture thru the ARRL in a roundabout manner. It's the ever changing DX game the ARRL DXCC program has stimulated for decades and thankfully the most sought after DX award and country list everyone uses. What a fun trip for 62years for me. 
 
I just don't like the 'between the cracks' efforts that force the ARRL to constantly focus on some weird aspects facing our DXCC program. Like baseball, guess you need relief pitchers to save the game ... what inning are we in now, 5th or 9th??   I posted the 3Y update last yesterday as Joel's links were not coming thru to us he said... I have not checked today the status of the $600,000 renovated boat in it's slow limp back to ZS.
San
 
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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 6:00 AM
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Subject: [ADXA] The Cost of a 3Y0I QSL
 
For those who subscribe to Bernie, W3UR's "The Weekly DX" (and for those
who don't, you should!) there is an op ed article in Monday's edition
(March 25) by Martti Laine, OH2BH and Wayne Mills, N7NG entitled
"Waiting for Bouvet, 2019". A somewhat interesting piece with nothing
new, however the last paragraph seems to add credit to the rumor that a
QSL from 3Y0I will carry a high price. Of course, they have to get there
first and have a successful activation.
 
Martti is a member of the "Rebel DX Group"
 
Martti & Wayne op-ed's last paragraph states:
 
"Some things are there for sure: With no external money available up
front to help 3Y0I, these people are taking on a huge personal risk. The
effective cost per QSO will be high and as there is no advanced
financial support from the foundations, the team members will have to
come up with some new concepts for external money so that the DX
audience would have a fair opportunity to support 3Y0I after the fact.
This suggests that for the first time early QSLs and LoTW may need to
carry a larger price tag than has become recent custom with
traditionally structured DXpeditions.
 
It is clear that the DXpedition funding model of the recent past will
need to be altered? What will it become?"
 
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