[ADXA] 80M receive antenna suggestions wanted

[w5zn at w5zn.org]

Do NOT use bare wire if you are laying it on the ground, otherwise you
will have a ground wire, not a BOG. If you are going to place it a few
inches above the ground bare wire will be OK, as long as its not
grounded anywhere along the wire's path. 

Bare wire is fine for a Beverage, just not a Beverage on GROUND! 

ZN 

On 2019-12-21 07:38, Dennis Schaefer wrote:

> Thanks to Joel and E.J.  I need to go step off the distance, but I think I have <>150 feet.  W8JI tells me he'd recommend 170 feet for 80M if I can manage it.   He also recommends BARE  wire staked down  with a few short ground rods if possible for the termination.    
> 
> This is probably what I'll try:  Feed  by the ground rod by the building and go <>NE as far as I can with insulated wire on top of the grass.   Stop when I get close to the road - probably <>150 feet.   Connect the terminating resistor and run two bare radials at the far end pinned to the ground and include a few one foot ground rods or whatever is guaranteed to not pierce any underground utilities.   Pour a few gallons of water on the "ground" system.   Then try it.  The far end will basically be underneath a power line but the line noise is quiet as of now.    
> 
> If it gives just a few db of relief from the June static levels it will be worth it.  Many of our 80M contacts are W8 down to W4 so I'm not going to try more than one direction.  It may not be optimum to some of W8 or part of W4, but should help. 
> 
> 73, 
> Dennis 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 7:55 AM, w5zn at w5zn.org wrote:
> 
> Dennis - 
> 
> Remember the first question I said I always ask? How much room do you have?  :-))) 
> 
> ZN 
> 
> On 2019-12-20 21:01, Dennis Schaefer wrote: 
> 
> Last year we had rain, lightning, and tornado warnings at Field Day and I was the genius who set up the CW station in a screenhouse.    I'm determined to do better in 2020 at the new location where we have shelter but not as much property.   During the night, the SSB, GOTA, and digital stations will mostly be on 40 meters, so I'll need to concentrate on 80.  I hate listening to summer static all night so I'd like to use a receive antenna.   
> 
> I was encouraged about the BOG after Joel's talk, and would have room for one over 100 feet long pointed NE.    The problem is that there are underground utilities and numerous high pressure gas lines in the area, and I don't really want to get the One Call folks involved.  So - no ground rods available except the one at the AC service entrance right next to the building.   
> 
> Is there a receive antenna I could use that doesn't depend on ground rods?    "The Google" isn't encouraging about using radials in place of ground rods for Beverage antennas.  Even a K9AY loop seems to need a good ground.   
> 
> Any suggestions would be welcomed.  We will probably go to the site for Winter Field Day in January and I'd like to have some ideas to try out. 
> 
> 73, 
> Dennis 
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