[ADXA] 160m and 60m bands... antennas etc - Part #2

Sun Aug 25 18:18:19 EDT 2019

Yeah that feed point takes some experimentation and time.  I’m not a tower climber so was difficult to figure.  U climb tower?  

Too bad you had to move to town.  Do you have another QTH like a cabin where you could have a remote station?  I have a friend who lives in Minneapolis on a tract lot so he does all his DXing remotely from a lake cabin where he has installed a full station.  Says it’s quite reliable.  I setup a FT8 station that I could operate remotely from office this summer and worked find.  Setup for FT8 really simple too.  Just used TeamViewer to access station.  

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EJ

From: HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net> 
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 3:00 PM
To: EJ <ejj at suddenlink.net>; 'adxa' <adxa at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: 160m and 60m bands... antennas etc - Part #2

You will do very well EJ. My shunt fed system in the 70s and early 80s had a large series cap and shunted by a large variable cap to  ground, both in plastic waterproof boxes with just the wires and out showing. The feed point for 160m was at about 65 feet, varies depending on tower height, the number of antennas on top acting as a “top hat” and surrounding trees and such. 

I had a 4 ele Telrex 20m beam with a 10/15m dual bander 4 feet about that. The shunt system can be quickly modified to 75/80m by going lower down for the tower connection .. Think mine was a about 48-50 feet. Rick K5UR borrowed my large series cap and did very well with his new and always changing antenna system. Wish I had more room on my lot and no nearby neighbors to gripe about tower and wires. That has killed my interest in 160m since 1995 October when we moved into town. After 25 years you just fall behind and try to remember the “old days”.. hi hi  While in Paris, AR I did add to my initial 160m DXCC totals of about 135 when we had  moved in 83, and then in 1984-89 I got to over 170 with a nice inverted V at 75 feet off a crank up Rohn tower.. The beams were at 76 and 80 feet. Later, a ½ wave sloper off my 90 foot tower when we moved to Springdale in 1993 allowed me more QSOs. I would hand rotate and direct the bottom to the direction I wanted to work. Usually was NE to EU or NW to JA/Asia.. Then the move into town KILLED my interest, most of signals straight up and down but I could work into Memphis and maybe east coast or into Texarkana or Tulsa. Hi hi

   Again, you will do well!!   

San YY

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From: EJ <mailto:ejj at suddenlink.net> 
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 2:27 PM
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Subject: RE: 160m and 60m bands... antennas etc

Good numbers San!  You are going to be ahead of the game if they approve for DXCC.  I’m just getting started.  

I have 179 on 160 meters and have goal of 200.  I experimented with shunt feeding my 140 foot tower but never could get it to tune out so I’ve put quarter wave wires sloping off it with elevated ground system.  Pointed in opposite directions and use KD9SV RBOG to receive.  Not as good as Joel’s system or regular beverage on receive but lower maintenance.  

EJ

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Subject: 160m and 60m bands... antennas etc

EJ

I have 161 on 60m but been on that new band since day one on July 3, 2003 and have 213 on 160m and got DXCC there in 1980. There are no 60m QSOs or confirmations that are covered by any ARRL program. Long explanation but big discussions back in 2003-2008 and I gave a seminar in Dallas one year about using the 60m band. 

We set up our own awards and issued a couple of certificates to early WAS guys and those that followed,  and for those who worked 100 entities recognized by the ARRL DXCC program. Then there was no agreement on what to call the award, I thought something like 60m 100 award and talked to authorities at the ARRL which holds the patent on the DXCC wording. Not to step on the ARRL I made suggestions and finally just dropped off being a log or card checker for either award. I was a stickler for looking at specific QSLs based on the list of 100 submitted and who I knew had been active. Another person thought a club from another country could check the 60m QSOs from someone in “their” country. I did not agree. It was our award and needed someone in the USA to check logs etc. 

I have been so inactive on 160 meters since my short compromised antenna at 35 feet was just not enough to continue chasing. All my signal was going straight up and down. So, since 1995 October I have chased very little 160m DXCC entities. In the 70s- 83 I had a shunt fed tower for 160m, tower was 80 feet tall and I was on a tall hill in Little Rock. Also had a dipole fed at 65 feet broadside NE-SW for receive and/or transmit. Made a lot of schedules in the 70s on 160m and moved a lot of guys from 80m to 160m within 10 minutes for a short sked,  but then suddenly starting in about 1982-83 MANY guys were getting 100 worked on 160m in just 2 years chasing  because conditions improved and many more guys were on world-wide... That was almost 40 years ago! Time flies. 

A 60m ½ wave sloper (87 feet) will do well, especially to NE or E. I move my ¼ wave sloper (43.5 feet) from NE to SE and use another ¼ wave sloper to the west or northwest, both fed against the tower as ground. Problem is not many DX stations or DXped guys get on CW or SSB anymore, only FT digi modes.  So I am stuck on 161 confirmed on 60m. Think I have dropped to being tied for 7th now. IIWII…

73 and have good summer getting antennas ready for Sept/Oct timeframe and good gray line prop to some areas. 

San

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From: EJ <mailto:ejj at suddenlink.net> 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [ADXA] V84SAA QSL

I put up a dipole sloping off tower for 60.  Still trying to get all the “channels” straight.  Had some issues figuring out F/H with my FT 5000.  Radio won’t transmit if you use software to control radio.

I’m surprised by what I hear on low bands even during summer.  OJ0 was coming in here with great signal earlier this summer.  Got TO5 for new band country on 160.  How many countries do you have on 60?

EJ

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Subject: RE: [ADXA] V84SAA QSL

Great, especially considering on 80m!! May put my 80/160 dipole back up this October or so, but it’s only at 35 feet. Better than nothing..

Not much DX  chasing here and most 60m activity is FT8 or FT4, and I have missed 2 new ones this year on 5.4mc as they did not do CW and would not respond for a schedule on CW.. Guess the op did not know Morse code or whatever! Hi  I just keep smiling.

San YY

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From: EJ <mailto:ejj at suddenlink.net> 
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Subject: RE: [ADXA] V84SAA QSL

Congrats!  I got mine a while back but my QSO never posted to LOTW.  I notice the log is updated regularly.  Maybe it will show up someday on LOTW.  Anyway ARRL accepted card for 80 meter Q.  Worked new band country on 80 this am: H44MI.  One of the few non rare ones I needed and kept missing.  

EJ K5EJ

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Subject: [ADXA] V84SAA QSL

Got my V84SAA Brunei QSLs today. A bit late, but delay seems to be related to the manager transferring the QSLs in a bundle sent to New York to a friend and THEN they were sent from there, postmarked in New York and having a USA stamp, nothing from LZ land.. Happens a lot, saves the manager a lot of money. 3 months getting here is a bit long by OQRS standards. 

San

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