[600MRG] Low RF Noise LED Light Bulbs

Larry Telegrapher at Q.COM
Thu Sep 5 13:38:38 EDT 2019


I have about a dozen of them i bought a year or so back around the house 
including here in the shack in a

single bulb outlet.  I don't hear any noise anywhere and the light is 
about 6 feet from the radio.  I get more

noise from the computer screen, especially when it's loaded with text 
than anyplace else.  Normal noise

level here is S-2 or less most of the time on bands above 30M.

Course the noise source here on 40 and down depends a lot of what's 
happening in the medium.

To broad of a statement?  Oh well, hope you all get the idea.

Larry

W0OGH


On 9/5/2019 7:05 AM, Scott Armstrong wrote:
> I've swapped out most of the incandescent bulbs in the house for LEDs 
> and have had no noticeable change in noise levels (or I just haven't 
> found the noise yet). The bulbs are from different manufacturers.
> Just recently bought some more LED bulbs made by EcoSmart. They are 
> part 15 compliant bulbs. Can't say that for the others.
>
> I also replaced the 4ft fluorescent lights in the kitchen with LEDs 
> and started replacing the 8ft ones in the garage. Nice bright light 
> but what crap they are. They generate noise from just below 10MHz to 
> above 144MHz.
> Haven't had the time to see if I can tame the noise any by putting 
> filters on the AC line and toroids on the individual fixture wires.
>
>
> Good Luck,
> Scott AA5AM
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 7:09 AM John Langridge <kb5njd at gmail.com 
> <mailto:kb5njd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Les,
>
>     My experience with LED bulbs has been that for the one's I have
>     tried, none work well across the the entire spectrum all the
>     time.  Load conditions seem to also impact where they will make
>     the most noise and temperature is also a factor.
>
>     I don't know the brand (kirkland?) but Costco has a large
>     multipack of LED bulbs that are insanely bright.  I use them on my
>     front and back porches.  During the Summer when its hot here in
>     Texas, the noise seems to shift higher in frequency, into the
>     upper broadcast band but below 160m.  That's a workable solution
>     for me as I operate on 630 meters.  I also don't hear these bulbs
>     in the 630m band under any of the load conditions I can present
>     (other lights and appliances on at the same time).  Im sure there
>     is some combination that will become a problem, however.
>
>     During the Winter its different.  If temperatures are below about
>     45 degrees and both of those porch lights are on, The signal is
>     right in the middle of the 630m band and its bad on two of my rx
>     antennas.  If I turn off the back porch light and change the load
>     condition, the noise goes away on those antennas.  So during the
>     Winter when I am operating on 630m, I turn off the back porch light.
>
>     Every situation will likely be different so you might buy these
>     same bulbs that I have mentioned and have a completely different
>     experience.  I'm afraid its probably going to be a trial and error
>     situation for you as every house will have a bit different wiring
>     topology.  I bought incandescent bulbs for the remainder of the
>     house (you can get them on the internet), which cost considerably
>     more to operate but its worth it to me.
>
>     73/GL
>
>     John
>
>     On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:52 AM Les Rayburn <les at highnoonfilm.com
>     <mailto:les at highnoonfilm.com>> wrote:
>
>         Budget is very tight here. A couple of years ago, my wife and
>         I converted all the lights in the house from CFB to LED lights
>         and the savings on our monthly bill have been signifiant. $22
>         dollars a month on average.
>
>         The downside is that the LED bulbs put out a lot of noise on
>         LF, MW, and HF.
>
>         A few months ago, I saw a thread about some LED bulbs that
>         were ham-radio friendly, putting out considerably less EMI
>         than other bulbs. Alas, the link was broken.
>
>         Has anyone found an LED light bulb that is radio-friendly? If
>         you have links to directly purchase them, even better.
>
>         Thanks in advance.
>
>
>         73,
>
>         Les Rayburn, N1LF
>         121 Mayfair Park
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