[600MRG] Starting at 19:37 UTC - late afternoon

[Goody K3NG]

Perhaps I'm being obtuse, but if there is a QSO that takes days to
complete, it's an ongoing QSO, and the rules (at least in the US) require
station identification every ten minutes.  So shouldn't one technically
have to send some sort of identification every ten minutes until the QSO
completes in order for such a long term QSO to be considered a bona fide
QSO?

I don't have a horse in this race, just asking :-)

73
Goody
K3NG

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:21 AM N1BUG <paul at n1bug.com> wrote:

> It seems to me we are talking about two very different things here.
> I am one of those who completes a QSO over several days using DFCW
> or QRSS and I consider that a QSO if:
>
> * full call signs are copied over the air in both directions
> * reports are copied over the air in both directions
> * acknowledgment is copied over the air in both directions
>
> * it is one single, unbroken QSO attempt
>
> The first three were the long held and published criteria for a QSO
> over many decades. It still is, except that the first item has been
> downgraded to 'identification of a station' since the coming of
> certain digital modes. I don't recall seeing the last point written
> except perhaps in some special interest newsletters and the like,
> but it was well acknowledged and followed within all interest groups
> I had experience with. To my knowledge there was never any mention
> of a time limit so long as it was one continuous attempt at a QSO.
> If a QSO attempt was aborted and then retried at a later date or
> time, it started over from the beginning with exchange of call signs.
>
> Absolutely NOTHING that fails the above criteria will be claimed as
> a QSO by me. I would never consider two way WSPR or OPERA to be a
> QSO. Clearly neither meets the above criteria for over the air exchange.
>
> Paul N1BUG
>
>
>
> On 1/10/19 7:48 PM, K9FD wrote:
> > Some people on this list claim it is, they make contact and confirm
> > transmissions over a period of
> > two to three days and claim it as a QSO.
> > I guess you can call that slow JT-9-48  for 48 hours.
> >
> > Merv K9FD/KH6
> >
> >> Indeed, acknowledgement is needed.
> >> Because all information should be exchanged over radio on the same
> frequency(band), during the QSO there should be no other means of
> information exchange (Not via intenet, nor via contact on an other band).
> >> So without acknowledgement  you just cannot know the other station
> copied you.
> >>
> >> Based on the rule "If 2 stations receive each other, it is a QSO", I
> (and many others) would have made hundreds of QSO's on WSPR without even
> knowing.
> >>
> >> To put it to an exteme: I copy a station on WSPR and that same station
> copies me 2 weeks later.
> >> I cannot imagine that this would count as a valid QSO?
> >>
> >> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >> ________________________________________
> >> Van: 600mrg-bounces at mailman.qth.net <600mrg-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> namens Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
> >> Verzonden: donderdag 10 januari 2019 22:42
> >> Aan: 600mrg at mailman.qth.net
> >> Onderwerp: Re: [600MRG] Starting at 19:37 UTC - late afternoon
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I thought they had to acknowledge one another too.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Bill  KU8H
> >>
> >> On 1/10/19 4:35 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>> If 2 stations receive each other, it is a QSO.
> >>> Are you saying that only two(!) transmissions now constitute a
> >>> legitamite QSO? If so, someone should
> >>> inform K1JT of this so he can shorten his sequences ;~).
> >>>
> >>> Jay W1VD
> >> --
> >> bark less - wag more
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