[50mhz] 4 MTR BAND and RC Control

[Chris Boone]

He stated only 205...the FCC shows 401 records..someone ain't counting
right..TRUE SOME will disappear but not all..
6mtrs?? 50Mhz is ok....noise is the killer for range...the antennas are more
efficient at 70 than 50...as amateurs WE CAN run 1500watts out for Remote
Control...YES WE CAN...just anything over 1watt, you have to ID it in CW or
another mode...
Under 1watt, you need a tag affixed to the unit showing callsign, etc...its
in the rules..2mtrs would be better..but no safe place...220??
maybe......but with 2 MHz taken from us, hard to say for sure...

50.8-51 NOONE uses...and the FCC SHOULD mandate that offlimits to all but RC
users.....LEGALLY you can fire on anything there at 1500watts...(the idiots
in the WWI/military reenactment folks get those wideband radios and then
light up on 51.000 with 25 kHz deviation...legal but slops right into the RC
range...OR they go up to the higher freqs..right in the middle of the
repeater range...DUMB!!!! If they would turn the damn deviation DOWN to 5
kHz, there would be no problems..BUT NO!!! THEY INSIST they MUST leave it as
is....or else its not "historically" correct...well I AINT Politically
Correct...so bite me!! AND TURN THE STUPID THINGS DOWN OR GET OFF!!!!)

My 0.02 worth

Chris
WB5ITT
Former member AMA/RC flyer as well as 6m rptr op...
My dad, WWII Platoon Sgt / DI, USMC, Semper Fi!

So there :)

BTW my original post below hasn't made it through yet because it got hung up
due to size...and the MODERATOR hasn't approved it yet.

-----Original Message-----]
Search of radio control frequencies for model aircraft brought interestng
results.  I looked at USA, UK, and other countries.  The USA does things
differenltly than EU countries. They mostly use lower bands like 35MHz, and
others, for RC.  In USA we use the lower 70"s for RC channels plus some
others.  Japan is different agian.  Looking at a good number of countries
and you get one mixed up mess, but luckily a lot are separated by oceans.  I
can imagine an international RC aircraft competition with all the different
bands used. 



A 4M ham band does not seem to be possible in the USA.  I wonder how much of
a problem using RC on 6M has produced.  How many know those frequencies?
And with 6M becoming more popular its very conceivable problems will turn
up.  AN RC TX would only cause QRM for us, however , as someone stated, if
we interfere with a RC RX that model becomes an out of control rocket.  MY
self I would NOT even consider 6M for RC control.  I have seen some verhy
effective freq control techniques when several models are being flown at the
same time.  Let leave 70MHz to the RC guys.  Use of controlled radio
frequencies for hobbies and pleasures helps us to maintain our frequency
allocations. There is support in the numbers.  Its like combining 4X4, ATV,
Motorbikes and mountian bikes into one group for support of off road
activities. 



Maybe we should look more at 222MHz, a band we currently have available to
us.  WIth a borrowed radio I made 2 QSOs on 222MHz  to g ive  friends a QSO
in a contest.   



The RC'ers and amateurs must support each other. 



Arne N7KA
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From: Chris Boone [mailto:Cboone at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:05 PM
To: 'Michael Keane K1MK'; '6meter at yahoogroups.com'
Cc: '50mhz at mailman.qth.net'; 'microwave at echo.valinet.com'
Subject: RE: [50mhz] [6 Meter Sked] RE: [Mw] TV Channels 2-6 Post Transition

>From the FCC CURRENT database: sorry for the long list but this is to make a
point, you need to look at the RIGHT database!!!! I count 4 DTs and one
possible DR (Digital rptr) and PLENTY of ANALOG LPs including Class As which
are 150KW LPs and have protected contours......where you think they are
going to want to stay??? (It's called Flash Cut..turn the analog off, the
digital on, right on the same channel) 
BTW below, TX = analog, CA is Class A, DT is Digital of course, LD is Low
Power Digital, LP is Low Power analog OR analog translator, DR is Digital
Repeater (translator), DS is Digital STA, TS is analog STA and TA is TV
analog Auxillary (backup). Confused?? You are not the only one......
 
4 IS the channel with less DTVs than any other...but that's NOT enough to
allow a 4m ham allocation...
As I said, "NOPE AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!!" Case closed.

Chris
WB5ITT
Society of Broadcast Engineers, SE TX and SW LA
 
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FCC Database-Channel 4 TV (all modes)in US and protected CA and MX stations
*** 401 Records Retrieved ***