Hi just saw the ref to the kb6kq loop, tried to google it but didn't get anything. Where might I get some info on this? Chuck Sayers Harrisburg Pa FN10og WA3GSI --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0615-3, 04/14/2006 Tested on: 4/16/2006 11:37:48 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com