[1000mp] CAT Control

Dave AA6YQ aa6yq at ambersoft.com
Sat May 5 04:51:34 EDT 2007


I'm not aware of anyone doing that, Kostas.

Commander does include the ability to control the MP1000's filters.

    73,

       Dave, AA6YQ

-----Original Message-----
From: 1000mp-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:1000mp-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Kostas sv1dpi
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 4:35 AM
To: All about Yaesu 1000mp
Subject: Re: [1000mp] CAT Control


After all these my question is this.
I want to run both my favorite contest program (writelog) or logging
(dx4win) and mp filters the same time. As you know markv has a difficult way
to change filters especially on rtty. Unfortunately can not share a com
port. If i had a program to manage a virtual com8 and a virtual com7 to a
real com1, it would be fine. Anyone to make it?
Kostas sv1dpi

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq at ambersoft.com>
To: "All about Yaesu 1000mp" <1000mp at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [1000mp] CAT Control


> Yes, you could do all that. Instead of using a second computer, you could
> alternatively write a virtual serial port driver that provides the
> described
> functionality. If you're interested in this approach, let me know and I'll
> introduce you to Phil N8VB.
>
> There are no unusual handshaking requirements between the application the
> the FT1000MP; you send it a command, and its sends you a response which
> you
> then parse. Updating a table whose information you then make available to
> other applications should be straightforward. Keep in mind, however, that
> my
> definition of "unusual" in this context is probably a bit jaded; Commander
> supports a large range of PC-controllable HF transceivers, and you'd be
> amazed at the mechanisms that some of these employ. Yaesu is without
> question the worst at this; their CAT instruction sets are awkward and
> inconsistent, their implementations sometimes don't match the
> documentation,
> and their documentation is notoriously incomplete. (Fortunately, the
> "radio"
> parts work well; I have a Mark V).
>
> The DXLab Suite solves this problem with a single transceiver control
> application (Commander) that manages the serial port connected to the
> transceiver. All of the other components -- logging, antenna rotation,
> spot
> collection, propagation prediction, propagation monitoring -- accomplish
> transceiver control by sending high-level directives to Commander (eg "QSY
> to 14025 in CW"), which then sends the appropriate command to the current
> transceiver. These directives are sent via an interprocess communciation
> (IPC) mechanism, not via a serial port. Commander uses the same IPC
> mechanism to inform applications when the current transceiver changes
> frequency, mode, split, etc. Each DXLab application provides IPC
> interfaces
> available through which its services can be invoked; DXView, for example,
> can be commanded by any application to rotate the antennal it does for the
> antenna rotator what Commander does for the transceiver. Thus when the
> user
> double-clicks on a spot, SpotCollector directs Commander to QSY to the the
> correct frequency and mode, and directs DXView to rotate the antenna to
> the
> correct short-path heading. Similarly, when the user wishes to log a QSO
> from information captured from a RTTY QSO in WinWarbler, clicking
> WinWarbler's Log button results in a "log this QSO information" directives
> being sent to DXKeeper.
>
> All of these services are exposed for any application to use. This is what
> enabled Rick N2AMG to build the logging and transceiver control "bridge"
> between MixW and DXLab, what enabled Patrick F6CTE to have MultiPSK log
> directly to DXKeeper and use Commander for transceiver control, and what
> enable Oba-san JA7UDE to build the logging and transceiver control bridge
> between MMSSTV and MMVARI and DXLab.
>
>    73,
>
>        Dave, AA6YQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1000mp-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:1000mp-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Tod-ID
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:46 PM
> To: 'All about Yaesu 1000mp'
> Subject: RE: [1000mp] CAT Control
>
>
> Thanks for the quick response Dave.
>
> I think that I ran across your DXLab Suite at one time last year. I have
> used Ham Radio Deluxe, but not with my FT1000MP yet. I don't know anything
> about Logger32. I will look at these programs again. Thanks for that
> information.
>
>
> I wonder if you could comment on a different topic that is related to this
> general topic:
>
> I would like to run Trlog for some contests and control the radio with it.
> TR log only reads and writes to the COM port by polling it. No interrupts
> and I presume the only buffering is that which is in the hardware or
> Tree's
> code.
>
> I want to have a program that is able to read the FT1000MP data as it goes
> by  <either direction> and makes it available to other programs. I wish to
> use that data to control something on a different COM port than the one
> used
> to control the FT1000MP.
>
> I am thinking of having a separate computer [#2} running that has several
> COM ports. COM1 would be a pseudo-FT1000MP and have TR connected to it.
> COM1
> would look to TR as though it were the FT1000MP CAT port. COM2 would
> actually be connected to the FT1000MP and computer #2 would send and
> receive
> the FT1000MP data.
>
> I can imagine a small, machine language program, that is resident as a
> background task which simply reads the data sent by TR to COM1 and writes
> it
> to COM2 as well as doing the reverse -- moving data from COM2 to COM1 when
> the radio responds.
>
> The small program would also populate a special table that has frequency,
> mode, and other significant status information from the FT1000MP. This
> table
> would be available to other programs running on computer #2. Programs
> running on #2 could read the and know what band and mode and frequency is
> in
> use at any moment.
>
>
> My thought is to use computer #2 to select antennas and/or amplifiers and
> perhaps the manage antenna rotators. The specifics are not yet defined,
> but
> the would require knowledge of the FT1000MP state.
>
> I see a couple of things that would need to be known to do this:
>
> 1. Is there any special handshaking that has to be considered between the
> FT1000MP and the computer.
>
> 2. How is the location of the 'FT1000MP state data table' made available
> to
> programs that are running on computer #2. I am guessing that those
> programs
> would be written to operate under XP or Win98.
>
> 3. There may be some special timing considerations for the had off or pick
> up of data on COM1. I would expect to run it at 4800 baud max so I don't
> think that timing should be a serious problem.
>
> Can you suggest places on the internet that might help with #2?
> Do you have any warning thoughts about #1 or #3?
> Do you know of anyone who has already done this? I really would prefer not
> to reinvent this wheel.
>
> Anything you care to suggest would be appreciated.
>
> 73, Tod
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave AA6YQ [mailto:aa6yq at ambersoft.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:21 AM
>> To: All about Yaesu 1000mp
>> Subject: RE: [1000mp] CAT Control
>>
>> Logger32 handles transceiver control, logging, and digital
>> modes simultaneously, as does Ham Radio Deluxe.
>>
>> The DXLab Suite also handles transceiver control, logging,
>> and digital modes simultaneously. Like Logger 32, it includes
>> built-in support for PSK31, PSK63, and RTTY. It also
>> interoperates with MixW, MultiPSK, and MMSSTV.
>>
>> All of the above applications are free; Google will find them for you.
>>
>> I am the author of the DXLab Suite.
>>
>>     73,
>>
>>         Dave, AA6YQ
>
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