[1000mp] I was barred from the ft9000-ft2000 yahoo group

[RM]

Geeeeez, 

I have owned the Orion I and now own the Orion II (using the Orion since
2003), and planning to buy a second II to replace my Icom 775DSP.  The rig
is absolutely outstanding and performs significantly better that any of the
Kenwood's (930/950), Yaesu (1000mp), and Icoms (765/775DSP) I've owned.  I
have had less issues with the Orion than any of the rigs mentioned above.
And what few issues that I have had has been fixed without having to send
the thing in and pay for that pleasure,  or buy a new rig to fix the design
issues.  

The 'magnitude of Orion owners' (?????????) mentioned below amazes me that
some one would make such a statement; I would like to see that survey.
Simply put, the Orion pulls stations out of the noise that NONE of my rigs
that I have owned in my 43 years of hamming or other models that I've
operated have not been able to accomplish.

A comment from this 'Magnitude of satisfied folks'.  (PS: yep, the rig
doesn't look as pretty as the other companys' rigs, but at 5 to 7 more
thousand dollars you can get that and by definition you are satisfied.)


Ron/NU1U


-----Original Message-----
From: 1000mp-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:1000mp-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of n4dsp
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 02:27
To: All about Yaesu 1000mp
Subject: Re: [1000mp] I was barred from the ft9000-ft2000 yahoo group

Scott,
     thanks for teaching me so much about things. Its nice to have people
like you. I am so much better for it. I now have a complete understanding of
amateur radios and I owe it all to you.

john


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Manthe" <n9aa at arrl.net>
To: "All about Yaesu 1000mp" <1000mp at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [1000mp] I was barred from the ft9000-ft2000 yahoo group


> The Orion is a terrific rig, but you obviously have never spoken to any of

> the multitude of  Orion owners about the continual problems with that rig.

> It has a design flaw (overtaxed DSP) and yet somehow Ten Tec doesn't come 
> out and admit it and just keeps releasing firmware patches. You ever 
> wonder why Ten Tec made fun of Icom for releasing the Pro 2 18 months 
> after the original Pro and then did the same thing with the Orion?
>
> The Elecraft is a nice rig, but is essentially a toy compared to anything 
> like a Mark V/Orion/FT-9000.
>
> Even given it's flaws, the MARK V series is the best rig for the money 
> available, period. Of course, it's best to have one of the later ones and 
> get the mods built-in, but even after the cost of adding them, it's still 
> a bargain.
>
> How exactly do you know whether the problems with the FT-9000 are poor 
> design? How exactly are you privy to the problems with the FT-2000? Were 
> you part of either design team? Are you a professional designer who has 
> gotten together with a group of FT-9000 owners to reverse engineer the 
> 9000 and discover it's flaws? Are you an industrial spy who has 
> ferreted-out all the problems that Yaesu is having with the FT-2000? Or 
> are you just a disgruntled amateur who wants to complain because he can't 
> get his rig when he wants it?
>
> You either want Yaesu to introduce a rig without bugs or you want it 
> quickly and I'd suggest you decide which before you post.
>
> The FT-2000 is being used right now in Montenegro for the DXpedition 2006.

> This will tell us quite a lot about how close the FT-2000 is to being 
> ready for market.
>
>
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
> n4dsp wrote:
>>
>> I never made a decision to leave this group. This is the type of letter 
>> the list owner and moderators use with all the pleasantries. Notice the 
>> "Loss of any member is felt by everyone in the group".  Also posts I made

>> to this group were withheld on a couple of occasions because I did not 
>> "fit the ideal Yaesu customer profile". Talk about censorship!
>>
>> With the Yaesu Mark V you spend thousands of dollars and then some to 
>> repair keys clicks and other
>> modifications yourself. More problems are evident with the FT-9000. These

>> radios cost over $10,000 and the problems the owners are encountering 
>> should not be taking place. These are not growing pains as Yaesu would 
>> have you to believe but very poor design and workmanship. These are not 
>> due to a new product making its appearance on the scene as Yaesu would 
>> have you believe. If the American public accepted this type of product in

>> some other industry there would be such a public outcry Congress would be

>> involved. Manufacturers like Yaesu has duped the Amateur Radio Operators 
>> with the normal excuses but it is unacceptable to put out a product when 
>> its development has not been fully realized. This is why the FT-2000 200 
>> watt version is not being made available at this time. Yaesu is trying to

>> fix all the problems with this rig thereby the delay on it's release but 
>> that is not to be public knowledge as a source told me today. Neither 
>> will the retail merchants
>> let on of the problems with the FT-2000 200 watt version.
>>
>> Subscribe to the FT-9000, FT-2000 yahoo group and read the posts of the 
>> FT-9000's problems. These radios cost over $10,000 and the problems which

>> owners are encountering. There are two good companies out there today and

>> both are American made. Ten-Tec and Elecraft. Excellent products. 
>> Excellent Receivers. Excellent Customer Support and Technical Service.
>> Yaesu can kiss my arse.
>>
>> 73
>> john-n4dsp
>>
>>
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